trinque: him staying silent during things like the blocksize "debate" speaks volumes imo
mats: or perhaps he reads the logs.
trinque: dunno how someone who was paranoid enough to never speak his own name would allow gavin and company to crawl all over his greatest work
mats: howssat for a political coup
trinque: or he could be *that* principled and I could be a crass moron
trinque: "they can have it if they do not break it"
mats: though on last check he seemed to be more likely to be aligned with gavin (bitcoin for the people, etc)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56561 @ 0.00053548 = 30.2873 BTC [-] {3}
trinque: yeah, I have to say I find him having been found as the most likely
trinque: if he is the VS/winderz derp, how is it that he generated unbreakable keys?
trinque: fuck knows I don't know how to approach it if he did
trinque: if one guy at the NSA is the only one who can...
trinque: what I'm saying is that runs contrary to the derp theory
trinque: I read all day about how intel's backdoored, mobo's backdoored, so on so on
trinque: or at least would appear to be
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9135 @ 0.00055481 = 5.0682 BTC [+]
trinque: I suppose he could be the windows derp and still know to at least use a separate airgapped box for the keys
trinque: I was not around for the early days
trinque: but I take your point; there wouldn't have been reason to target someone like him until doing so wouldn't have mattered
trinque: right, say there's a decent way to do factoring. I think I pulled that one from your blog
trinque: put plainly, watching phuctor phuck, I'd thought that there surely must be some way of doing the same thing on badly generated bitcoin addresses
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80700 @ 0.00056534 = 45.6229 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: IS’ Sinai Province Claims Destroying Egyptian Frigate in Mediterranean | Jihadist News | Articles ... (
http://bit.ly/1Mxqyzj )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.00057055 = 16.8312 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: First slaying on DC Metro in its 40-year history: Witnesses watched but didn't intervene | Fox News ... (
http://bit.ly/1LoMFsX )
mats: matter of time til they catch USN sailors sleeping on guard duty and kill a vessel, IMO
decimation: well, they were foolish to be within range of antitank missile
mats: iirc older .ru ATGMs have a range of ~5km
mats: easy enough to maneuver a series of boats into range if not firing from the coast
decimation: asciilifeform: where did that stabbing take place?
assbot: Download Video Compilation of Over 100 ATGM Shots In Syria (36min 40sec) in 3GP, MP4, FLV and WEBM Format - Cembu.ru ... (
http://bit.ly/1MxrwLX )
mats: hard to tell but many of those targets look well over 3km
decimation: "Police and a witness interviewed said passengers trapped in the moving train huddled at both ends of the car and watched in horror as Spires punched 24-year-old Kevin Joseph Sutherland until he fell to the floor, then stabbed him until he was dead. Court documents say the victim was cut or stabbed 30 or 40 times, in the chest, abdomen, back, side and arms. "
decimation: note: the victim was a skinny white guy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00057436 = 13.6123 BTC [+]
mats: particularly dumb criminals, i suppose
mats: iirc some folks finally convinced carriers to disable stolen phones?
decimation: supposedly he was 'high' on 'synthetic marijuana'
mats: lol, 'spice' (research chemicals)?
decimation: asciilifeform: do you think metro could tell the difference between suicide and murder?
decimation: asciilifeform: maybe because it took place on a moving train
decimation: asciilifeform: no, it's not a common news item (the murdering) because of 'advocates of progressive causes'
trinque: some kid made the funny papers the other day in portland
assbot: Portland police make an arrest in fatal Old Port shooting - WGME - Portland ME Top Stories - News, Sports, Weather, Traffic ... (
http://bit.ly/1MxsnfB )
trinque: this notion that "someone should've helped" is hilarious
decimation: asciilifeform: have you noticed that yarvin's blog is gradually disappearing from google search results
decimation: I know he wrote about the splc and the right wing route to power
decimation: asciilifeform: also I note his comments seem to have more weight than the text
MoltenBosnia: I have otc rating just gotta get laptop with keys running.
decimation: ah "In a world dominated by progressives, the fascist gate to power is closed, locked, welded shut, filled with a thousand tons of concrete, and surrounded by starving cave bears. Today's Apparat has entire departments who do nothing but guard this door, which no one but a few pathetic dorks will even think of approaching."
decimation: ^ why civvie-orc murdering is trumpeted
decimation: note that 'pathetic dork' seems to fit the description of that guy in charleston
decimation: trinque: did you manage to make a copy of yarvin's blog?
trinque: yeah, the one iirc punkman recommended
trinque: interface is a little goofy, but I got the files I wanted
decimation: apparently now is the time to acquire a copy, before it disappears forever into google's memory hole
decimation: for they surely do not wish to hold it
trinque: decimation: I am taking that attitude towards every piece of valuable information I find.
mats: hm, some of the missiles fired in that video appear to have traveled more than 5km based on ~30s flight time
mats: apparently isis has some of the spiffier, longer range ATGMs
trinque: asciilifeform: mind if I eat loper-os too?
trinque: I am a student farther back on my lisp quest
trinque: helpful perspectives on that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00057436 = 7.8687 BTC [+]
decimation: ah, apparently the httrack widget creates an index as it copies
decimation: yeah, and to make a mirror would be a bit costly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79000 @ 0.00056712 = 44.8025 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: the cost per credit is quite reasonable
trinque: couldn't tell from the site itself precisely how many posts there are
trinque: but I'd not archive it without permission
trinque: since there is are explicit terms right there on the site for use
decimation: for those who haven't seen it, it's a big rock cliff face with robert e lee, stonewall jackson, and jefferson davis
trinque: decimation: sort of an unsettling development, "progress" not satisfied until history never even happened
decimation: yes, as ascii says, the 'having been stolen from' will be stolen too
trinque: I have been musing lately on the relationship between sovereignty, language/meaning creation, and delusional behavior such as this.
trinque: as though if you trust a weapon such as sovereignty to the wrong people, you get this nonsense
trinque: they blow their own heads off
trinque: let me see if I can restate: the mechanism of modern american narcissism for example is precisely that the type of person walks around thinking they can simply declare things to be so, because they feel they ought to be
decimation: trinque: yes, what is happening in the west is akin to self-immolation of some kind
trinque: a leader does this same thing, but not as a sort of onanist
trinque: he declares meaning for a larger group
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108062 @ 0.00054869 = 59.2925 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:12:55; decimation: yes, as ascii says, the 'having been stolen from' will be stolen too
assbot: D.C.’s Chinatown has only 300 Chinese Americans left, and they’re fighting to stay. - The Washington Post ... (
http://bit.ly/1LoXtYd )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84223 @ 0.00054524 = 45.9217 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: mats: at least in the case of the west antarctic glacier I read something interesting regarding the involvement of geologic activity
trinque: of course warming is also occurring
trinque: sounds though like that glacier *is* headed for the ocean
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:40:10; decimation: "Police and a witness interviewed said passengers trapped in the moving train huddled at both ends of the car and watched in horror as Spires punched 24-year-old Kevin Joseph Sutherland until he fell to the floor, then stabbed him until he was dead. Court documents say the victim was cut or stabbed 30 or 40 times, in the chest, abdomen, back, side and arms. "
mats: trinque: fun times ahead
mats: 'having killed someone doesn't make you a killer' hue hue hue
trinque: wtf, namecheap just blasted out an e-mail demanding rudely that I verify my email address due to ICANN something something
cazalla: trinque, they have been doing that every year for the past few years if memory serves
trinque: how bout I start deedbotting IPs and names and let that be that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32655 @ 0.00053197 = 17.3715 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: "GOVT REQUIRES FRESH SCANS OF YOUR ASSHOLE PER ANNUM"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80774 @ 0.00053105 = 42.895 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7424 @ 0.00052484 = 3.8964 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.00054691 = 13.7548 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126800 @ 0.00054068 = 68.5582 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13883 @ 0.00053922 = 7.486 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81912 @ 0.00053922 = 44.1686 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 285 @ 0.0039091 = 1.1141 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50700 @ 0.00056287 = 28.5375 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58100 @ 0.00053851 = 31.2874 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:18:22; asciilifeform: trinque: this was done. for 'android' wallet of one kind or another
assbot: Generated invalid address '1FYMZEHnszCHKTBdFZ2DLrUuk3dGwYKQxh' · Issue #403 · jim618/multibit · GitHub ... (
http://bit.ly/1Dk5nLK )
punkman: that's the address for secret exponent=0
punkman: it's currently unspendable, though I think you might be able to spend it on 0.5.3
shinohai: sweet, you think you could make counterparty work?
shinohai: oh multibit. I never liked it so never used it
shinohai is just coming awake, having coffee @ 4 am
shinohai: tbh i thought maybe 50 people used multibit
punkman: I believe someone has actually sold the private key of the above address
punkman: then the guy that bought it realizes he can't spend anything from the address
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00055528 = 5.9137 BTC [+]
punkman: interestingly, "re-used k" is how the Playstation 3 keys were broken
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00055528 = 3.8314 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00056318 = 12.0521 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00055631 = 12.4613 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61450 @ 0.00056428 = 34.675 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48650 @ 0.00056458 = 27.4668 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100050 @ 0.00055131 = 55.1586 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70678 @ 0.00053962 = 38.1393 BTC [-]
assbot: The Square Kilometre Array: radio silence in Western Australia for most powerful telescope in history | Science | The Guardian ... (
http://bit.ly/1I8cEWt )
jurov: "Given that no computer exists that will be able to deal with the volume of what SKA will produce, the success of the project rests on the continuing robustness of Moore’s law: that every 18 to 24 months computer processing power will double."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45039 @ 0.00052954 = 23.85 BTC [-]
jurov: shipping yottabytes from australia?
jurov: it smells to me like it really needs to be processed on the spot
mircea_popescu: because there's going toi be a single box yottabyte processor.
mircea_popescu: looky, distributed doesn't mean geographically dispersed.
jurov: i mean, moore's not what they expect anymore, they may end up needing gigawatts of ower and cooling,
jurov: meticulously RF shielded
jurov: whether 10km or 100km away from the site does not make such big difference
jurov: and then someone will hax it and use radio as mere entropy source for mining :DDDD
assbot: Pirate radio station near Portland shut down, operator fined - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... (
http://bit.ly/1I8dwKT )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68550 @ 0.00053599 = 36.7421 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:03:27; trinque: or he could be *that* principled and I could be a crass moron
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64900 @ 0.0005389 = 34.9746 BTC [+] {3}
shinohai: meanwhile my pogo is running smooth: I've been connected to mpex.btc for 1 week, 4 days, 2 hours, 31 minutes, and 6 seconds.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28571 @ 0.00054353 = 15.5292 BTC [+]
shinohai: i connected to your node until it failed, now i just have 1 connection.
mircea_popescu: it's gonna be up and down as i play with this nonsense block.
shinohai: yes i bookmarked that as "ph0rk 1"
shinohai: I am keeping a messy log of it
shinohai: danielpbarron was down the day i got my pogo of all days.
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:12:43; asciilifeform: (and chances are, i will, l0l)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72800 @ 0.00052475 = 38.2018 BTC [-] {2}
shinohai: so i am stalled, but it is a hell of a device, this pogo
shinohai: i am sure it will kick ass when i get an actual ssd
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00055306 = 16.7024 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:27:11; mats: matter of time til they catch USN sailors sleeping on guard duty and kill a vessel, IMO
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:28:03; decimation: well, they were foolish to be within range of antitank missile
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:50:44; decimation: asciilifeform: have you noticed that yarvin's blog is gradually disappearing from google search results
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:54:03; decimation: ah "In a world dominated by progressives, the fascist gate to power is closed, locked, welded shut, filled with a thousand tons of concrete, and surrounded by starving cave bears. Today's Apparat has entire departments who do nothing but guard this door, which no one but a few pathetic dorks will even think of approaching."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00052456 = 13.114 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i watched a great film recently. "knockaround guys". it has some great names in it (malkovich has by now taken his obsession with 'voice training' to the point he has a serious speech impediment, his mental issues with voice remind one of angelina jolie and secondary sexual characteristics)
mircea_popescu: but the thing is so bad, ill conceived, mishapen and plain out lame as you couldn't believe.
mircea_popescu: at some point four utter dorks riding around in a car go "imagine, guys like us. we could be owning this place in a week!"
mircea_popescu: unintentional for sure, but an excellent expose of mental retardation, us style.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00055972 = 9.4033 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:03:59; asciilifeform: (we all know why. and i'm gonna guess that he doesn't give a damn, 'nobody needed the library of alexandria for anything')
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:08:56; trinque: couldn't tell from the site itself precisely how many posts there are
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:09:43; trinque: but I'd not archive it without permission
punkman: how many of those are in romanian btw
mircea_popescu: lemme see. tho i'd expect folks with the archival bent to want to preserve those particularly. who even knows what they actually say.
punkman: oh wow, we've missed all kinds of good stuff
punkman: us that don't read romanian
mircea_popescu: in fairness a lot of it is not legitimately interesting other than to try and pry into "the personality of the man" etc. lots of style discussions, places nobody really gives a shit about etc.
mircea_popescu: a good chunk of the legitimately interesting stuff was linked either here in reference to soemthing or in english articles etc.
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:59:46; mats: 'having killed someone doesn't make you a killer' hue hue hue
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 06:11:28; trinque: wtf, namecheap just blasted out an e-mail demanding rudely that I verify my email address due to ICANN something something
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00054698 = 2.9537 BTC [-]
shinohai: That may be the find of the week
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38032 @ 0.00052479 = 19.9588 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48450 @ 0.00052479 = 25.4261 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88182 @ 0.0005247 = 46.2691 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70200 @ 0.000533 = 37.4166 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71101 @ 0.0005545 = 39.4255 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49000 @ 0.00052371 = 25.6618 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53393 @ 0.00055572 = 29.6716 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.00052911 = 13.7039 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:59:46; mats: 'having killed someone doesn't make you a killer' hue hue hue
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109479 @ 0.00052369 = 57.3331 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53268 @ 0.00052172 = 27.791 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00052814 = 10.3515 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44700 @ 0.00052814 = 23.6079 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: mkay. well you have to admit that they're considerably farther reaching than 'taliban'
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 i haz pogoplug demo video xD
punkman: "The United States Government Policy and Supporting Positions, commonly known as the Plum Book, is published every four years, after the Presidential election. The Plum Book is used to identify presidentially appointed positions within the Federal Government"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58475 @ 0.0005217 = 30.5064 BTC [-] {2}
decimation: it's true, it looks like the 7-10 nm range is gonna be a strech for production
decimation: obviously prototypes have been created, but it's another matter to crank out such chips in production
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45404 @ 0.00053386 = 24.2394 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17773 @ 0.00052168 = 9.2718 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65000 @ 0.00052105 = 33.8683 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56100 @ 0.00052072 = 29.2124 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3074 @ 0.00053386 = 1.6411 BTC [+]
mats: someone fucked up when pricing their shares
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8626 @ 0.00053588 = 4.6225 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8063 @ 0.00052607 = 4.2417 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79098 @ 0.00052065 = 41.1824 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25120 @ 0.00054036 = 13.5738 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30280 @ 0.00054485 = 16.4981 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: seems like a lot but i have to admit that i rarely look at such things.
shinohai: I heard that a bunch of sjw's got upset because etsy won't let you sell spells anymore.
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 05:09:43; trinque: but I'd not archive it without permission
trinque has all this disk and so little worthwhile content with which to fill it
trinque: I'm thinking of making it a semi-official function of deedbot to archive a particular site at a particular time and timestamp the bundle
punkman: that would make some pretty big bundles though
trinque: punkman: I just snagged a machine with a few raid cards and 8 drives, but yeah, probably so
trinque: I might make the rating requirement for site-archival a bit higher than for deeds
trinque: anyhow, just musing on the thought currently
punkman: URL deeding would be handy
punkman: we had a couple threads about it
jurov: "Astonishingly, an unmodified Doble Model E runs clean enough to pass the strict emissions laws in California today." heh
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 277.9, Best ask: 279.2, Bid-ask spread: 1.30000, Last trade: 279.0, 24 hour volume: 32117.18507149, 24 hour low: 272.0, 24 hour high: 281.0, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58600 @ 0.00054485 = 31.9282 BTC [+]
ascii_field: jurov: iirc, the incurably fatal defect of that car was the five-minute start time
jurov: they made it down to 90 sec
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73247 @ 0.00054485 = 39.9086 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.0005287 = 1.3218 BTC [-]
danielpbarron:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178718 << me too! and the "famicon" mentioned earlier in this thread might sound familiar to fans of SMB2 -- the ~real~ SMB2 is known in the english world as "The Lost Levels" because it was deemed "too difficult" for them when it first came out, and "Super Famicon" was re-branded and re-skinned and shipped to USSA in its place
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 04:00:51; *: decimation remembers fondly going to the video rental store to rent nintendo games
trinque: danielpbarron: yeah, our mario 2 was that weird platformer they rebranded at the last minute
danielpbarron: yep, with the mega-lame least-creative-way-to-end-a-story-possible... IT WAS ALL A DREAM L0L
danielpbarron: pretty much, although it will always be nostalgic to me
danielpbarron: but yeah, i generally glare at people who exclaim "OMG smb2 is my fav!1"
trinque: I play it for the same reason time to time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88600 @ 0.00054374 = 48.1754 BTC [+] {3}
mod6: shinohai: cool! got a link for us yet? wanna check it out :]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00054485 = 5.1216 BTC [+]
trinque: yeah, neat. I just fired up my own pogo today
trinque: got a nice little intel ssd for it too
shinohai: nice trinque I don't have ssd yet T_T
trinque: had an old 80gb in a macbook I finally retired to the dumpster
trinque sheds a single tear for "elderbook"
trinque: interesting, what brings you to that archaeological dig?
trinque: shinohai: newegg has 'em for about 50 bux
jurov: what? macbooks with 80g intel ssds can be bought for 50bux?
trinque: tho that macbook wasn't even worth 50 bucks
trinque: would've probably lived longer if not for the many dousings with beer/coffee/misc
ascii_field lulz at the folks who nod when he says 'computer should cost $100k and be a heirloom' who then tell about the coffee they spilled in their 7th laptop
trinque: 100k computer goes in the basement!
trinque: I'll beer all over my cheap terminal
ascii_field: ever look at what vt100 and its contemporaries cost ?
ascii_field: (i, for one, was surprised when learned the answer)
jurov: basement that never gets flooded!
trinque: jurov: errrr sealed missile silo!
trinque: ascii_field: haven't, maybe a misguided assumption
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64362 @ 0.00054036 = 34.7787 BTC [-]
trinque: found one for a grand, damn.
trinque: but this is because it's vintage
trinque: ah, at the time I'm sure they were very expensive
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 187150 @ 0.0005398 = 101.0236 BTC [-] {4}
decimation: I have an old macbook1,1 I would like to use for stator
decimation: one day when I get some extra time I might work on the osx build stuff
mod6: so I dumped a few blocks 0, 1, 2, 199`999, etc.
mod6: and i never did find that magic number in there: 0xf9, 0xbe, 0xb4, 0xd9
mod6: which i thought was kinda weird, so i looked at the code again. This is a part of CMessageHeader, used in ProcessMessage -- so I ran a tcpdump while syncing:
mod6: i don't see the bytes in any order.
mod6: (in the block itself)
mod6: just in the message header
mod6: then is dump block not including it?
mod6: so dumping the first four blocks with `dumpblock' into each their own .bin files, then using xxd and shovling them all into one file, here's the result:
http://dpaste.com/1B1H1PC.txt
mod6: ok, ftr, this is from nsl's node with -verifyall on.
mod6: just thought it was worth mentioning that i found it in the MessageHeader with tcpdump.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00054535 = 18.2147 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56522 @ 0.00054553 = 30.8344 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: pilots get tired of fish in a barrel, eh?
BingoBoingo: trinque: Probably tired of not actually being pilots
mircea_popescu: kinda weird seeing how drone flying is a common hobby on uni campuses
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16228 @ 0.000546 = 8.8605 BTC [+]
trinque: could be entirely unrelated to being a drone operator too
BingoBoingo: Well, there probably a difference between flying drones as a lay hobbyist and flying drones when you spent your youth training to fly planes you fit inside
mircea_popescu: maybe nobody wants to be in the navy anymore because it's doing dumbass "sensitivity training"
davout: who wants to fly drones when you can either fly fighter jets or fuck flight attendants
trinque: yeah, amounts to a cubicle job a lot like being a videogame tester
mircea_popescu: all this effort put into becoming "more women friendly" in a retarded, contorted way that women don't give a shit about and pisses off men is mayhap paying off
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72350 @ 0.00053757 = 38.8932 BTC [-] {3}
trinque: this "surgical" death from the sky thing strikes me as a bit like playing with one's food
trinque: at least larger wars might end
mircea_popescu: PRIVILEGE IS BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BY REALITY!1111
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 16:51:29; punkman: URL deeding would be handy
mircea_popescu: otherwise "signing an url" is kinda like "windows security" in that pages include foreign elements.
chetty: ahaha so thats it, its realities fault
ascii_field: i must note that archive.today is not (apparently) recursive
trinque: well god's dead and that's no fair, so the state will have to chip in instead
trinque: the archive I'm building is primarily for my own reading
trinque: personally I'll settle for whatever I can find of the best content, and the rest can be damned
ascii_field: that is, the default behaviour of 'wget -m'
mircea_popescu: if you really feel like burning time on this, feel free to look at random sites see what depthy=1 gets you
ascii_field: (on the mr mold example from last night. got everything that's worth anything there)
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ascii_field: mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: sooo in other nyooz, last night i got a x86_64 buildroot on musl going. shits out a bootable iso
ascii_field: not to be confused with the turd from 3 month ago
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ascii_field: point is not only to test pogo build and get musl in, but also it is useful to have a rom-able pc realbitcoinotron
mod6: but yea, was able to build stator as fully static, thanks to ascii_field's cuts from the source.
ascii_field: drop in optical disk, it looks for blockchain on largest blockdev, if doesn't find - counts down with skull, minute later - formats drive, starts fetching blocks...
shinohai: i havent built a staic stator on pogo yet
ascii_field: ^ above is the notion. all i have presently is a 10m iso that boots to shell
ascii_field: and self-contained (relies on no libs from host)
mircea_popescu: "pogo responds to magic packet on port X by sending over the iso"
trinque: if so it's gonna need bitchin ascii art like the foundation site.
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trinque: is there anything that'd keep this hp turdserver from having the svm flag on the cpus other than... not having that?
trinque: bios didn't seem to have a virtualization setting
mircea_popescu: Jul 2015538954457,386663,979488816.56 GB << jurov you know i blame you for this right ?
jurov: is that minigame.bz? well, you asked for it
mod6: <+trinque> if so it's gonna need bitchin ascii art like the foundation site. << Hear, hear.
mircea_popescu: on the plus side there's well over 1k complete versions of the thing i nthe wild now, so it's not a total loss.
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mircea_popescu: halp i have endian problems in my head. peta not yotta!
jurov: i thought you're just trying to be poetic
trinque: either I have a good nose or the neighbors are *really* drinking this afternoon
trinque: so I go over there with a flamethrower and a bandana on my face, then fuck the ashes?
trinque: it'd be a neat company to have, something which built heavily fortified homes
trinque: wonder if there's a market for that
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trinque: if I someday neither hear, smell, nor see neighbors, that'll be a good close to chapter one
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ben_vulpes: neat to hear about musl, asciilifeform
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: once you have a known-good blockchain, just copy it
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: i know that it takes longer, but i like to actually exercise the sync mechanism once every five builds or so
ben_vulpes: anyways i was poking at hunchentoot in service of making an httoy out of some of the patches that you've posted recently and discovered that the sbcl i had on the plane didn't support threads
trinque: man I would've bought the scam wifi for a flight that long
mod6: im running it on two seperate envs now actually.
mod6: ones at 294k and the other... 158k
ben_vulpes: trinque: wifi over ocean: yes. cell for scammers to resell - no
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: no, i have not tried verifyall yet
ben_vulpes: just reading your patches and thinking about how to exercise them is a quarter-time job
ben_vulpes: keep in mind that this is how i'm learning cpp
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ben_vulpes: ascii_field: the only way to re-verify a chain-on-disk right now is to dump and re-eat all blocks, correct?
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: that, or twiddle the relevant constant
ascii_field: (i forget precisely where. oughta be a patch!)
ben_vulpes: the only thing i'm aware of in the 'mainstream' codebasen is the "rescan" thinger, but that only looks for transactions relevant to the wallet
ben_vulpes: lol and completely absent from the usage message
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assbot: Logged on 16-07-2015 21:07:59; mats: if you hate something, thats fine, but i expect specific and reasoned judgment; its well and good to despise node.js, or javascript, or c++, but i catch a funny smell in here when folks more or less coopt the opinions of their perceived betters
trinque: and if the opinion is justified and the hate remains?
trinque: anyhow, the thread thereafter addressed it.
ascii_field: 'In addition to the ACPI feature, remote wake-up (including AMD Magic Packet and Microsoft Wake-up frame) is supported in both ACPI and APM (Advanced Power Management) environments. To support WOL from a deep power down state (e.g., D3cold, i.e., main power is off and only auxiliary exists), the auxiliary power source must be able to provide the needed power... ...The RTL8111E supports Protocol offload. It offloads some
ascii_field: of the most common protocols to NIC hardware in order to prevent spurious wake up and further reduce power consumption. The RTL8111E can offload ARP (IPv4) and NS (IPv6) protocols while in the D3 power saving state. '
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mircea_popescu: hey ben_vulpes trinque do i have this right, you mostly make apple store games ?
ag3nt_zer0: hey trinque fine just trying to install eulora here... you?
trinque: mircea_popescu: nah, I do web turds
ben_vulpes: except insofar as vc-backed shartups are games
ben_vulpes: ios and android and webturd "engineering" horsepower as a service
ben_vulpes: if someone were so foolish as to want to pay us to build a game we could
ben_vulpes: everything from promotional apps to apps for insurance companies to internal business process web applications
ag3nt_zer0: do I need to be in particular directory for this to work? "You'll need to install several support libraries via MacPorts. Run sudo port install (package-name) for all of the packages in the first two lists here." - I enter this and it says Error port opengl not found
mircea_popescu: what'd cost me for you to make the eulora client into an ipad app ?
mircea_popescu: but only if you actually can do the whole chain, i don't wish to touch apple. so if yo ucan get it into their store thing etc.
ben_vulpes: yeah generally the first thing we ask for is root on your apple account
mircea_popescu: i do not have an apple account nor would be getting one.
ascii_field will be rather surprised if the thing passes the censors
ben_vulpes: i do have some understanding of how you work
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 yes you do, but that doesn't sound like a wrong directory problem
ben_vulpes: first thing to be aware of is that if it has anything to do with bitcoin and transacting stuff it's going to be a bitch to get past the 'reviewers'
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: I am in home directory, where should I be?
mircea_popescu: i personally never got a mac. best everyone knows is in the wiki, you reading that ?
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: macports doesn't care what directory you're in
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: try doing a sudo port selfupdate first?
ascii_field: speaking of all of this, i realized not long ago that one could easily do a 'pogo' for some shitablet or other
trinque: yeah, with external storage?
trinque: pretty sure all tablet makers still charge out the ass for more than a pittance of storage
ascii_field: (often needs a cheap mechanical adapter from 'micro' to female 'a')
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ag3nt_zer0: well sent a pm to phf hopefully he can help...
ben_vulpes: makes the eyes bleed, but lulzy nevertheless
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: they make micro-usb to usb adapters that plug into the charger port
williamdunne: Oh wrong about charging part, that's to power whatever is plugged in via usb, lame
gabriel_laddel: ascii_field: reference material for ben+pete's school for kids who might maybe not suck one day
jurov: it's named "on the go" connector
jurov: and yes, it's not for 24/7
ascii_field: gabriel_laddel: it's a lul by the fella who wrote 'lisp is not an acceptable lisp'
ascii_field: i have hardware powered by 'usb otg' jacks going 24/7...
jurov: the droid acts as usb host and it is supposed to provide power
jurov: you'll have to recharge it some other way then
ascii_field: i ordered a 'miracast' last week, would have tested this already, but it was delayed in the post
jurov: i have proposed to use n900's in such manner, less shitty and more OSS than droids, was immediately shot down
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jurov: seems we are getting desperate :)
ascii_field: jurov: not so much desperate as the fact that i found a device available for $10-15 ~NEW~ from cn, with 256 (or even 512) MB of ram
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ag3nt_zer0: anyone have any thoughts on the Jolla?
williamdunne: 00:06:08 - gabriel_laddel: ascii_field: reference material for ben+pete's school for kids who might maybe not suck one day <<< isn't that what #b-a is anyway? At least that's how I'm trying to use it.
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jurov: ^ just found this pogo sibling. but nowhere they say how much mem does it have
ascii_field: (as far as i can tell, they're extinct ...?)
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ascii_field: which is what is in my 'hootoo', costing less than half
jurov: 32? then yes, expensive
ascii_field: (we are, sadly, nowhere near the point where we can live in 32)
jurov: back to pogo, all mSATA drives i see are 5-6cm long and impossible to fit inside
jurov: what's supposed to go there at all?
jurov: ah. so msata won't fit?
ascii_field: the naked pcb thing is what is normally called 'msata'
jurov: but 2.5" drive won't fit
ascii_field: did you remove the dust cover from the pogo ?
jurov: only with top cover completely off and pcb bare
ascii_field: don't strip the pcb, you need the plastic cradle
ascii_field: if you have a peculiar drive that won't sit down in the cradle - post photo ?
jurov: so you say Kingston SSDNow V300 2.5" drive will fit in the slit? that's not possible
ascii_field: that is precisely the shape of the drive sitting in mine
jurov: can you post photo of whole setup?
jurov: that drive is 7cm wide and the slit in the cover is only 4.5cm
ascii_field: jurov: you must have something very odd going on. plz post pic
jurov: oh i get it now. the connector protrudes out of the cover
jurov: danielpbarron: how much free space you have left?
mircea_popescu: so the procuraderia de la nacion, which is basiucally the da's office, has this gated off entryway. in that entryway, stored two meters from the grating, eight five gallon plastic containers full of gasoline.
mircea_popescu: nevermind that i dunno where it's even legal to store gasoline in plastic.
mircea_popescu: anyone can be a terrorist for the price of a quarter dollar cigar.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field in eu you can go to jail for doing that. gotta use metal.
ascii_field: in usa everyone uses either the red plastic bottles, or goes to antique shop and buys nazi 'jerry can'
ascii_field: also turns out that the other pogo (the one still in print) has internal sata
mircea_popescu: "Some people have been mailing me lately, random people asking me if their kids should go. It's expensive. Way expensive. Tough choice to make, even now, with Wizard Academy grads making anywhere from a quarter million to a million a year, while the rest of us plod away in 5-figure territory."
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: he was describing, i think, a fantasy
mircea_popescu: by now it's impossible to tell satire from an obama speech.
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mircea_popescu: "Roy Hollister Williams is a best selling author and marketing consultant best known for his Wizard of Ads trilogy. He is founder of the Wizard Academy institute and currently lives in Austin, Texas with his wife Pennie."
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assbot: Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
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mod6: <+ascii_field> in usa everyone uses either the red plastic bottles, or goes to antique shop and buys nazi 'jerry can' << at some point in the last 6+ years, the USSA standardized the can. Now it seems you can only by 1 standard type of red-plastic gas can. And the f'ing pour spout does not work. It is a worthless pile of shit. It makes you twist and unlock it or some crazy shit. Now, I just throw the spout away, and pour through a funnel fro
mod6: It drives me nuts, because I can't find a regular old-school (even a plastic one with a normal pour spout) to save my life. Might have to check at garage sales or something. All major stores only carry Soviet Gas can.
mod6: haha, "Welcome to socialism! Here's this new gas can to save your retard children from drinking it while you're off doing important things."
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mod6: Oh and did I mention there's no rear breather hole to let the stream pour smoothly?
mod6: srsly.what.in.the.fuck.is.happening.net
mod6: this is the spout: i.ytimg.com/vi/nytxlA-G1Sk/maxresdefault.jpg
cazalla: mod6, that looks like a combi can, not sure
mod6: ah, you know, just searching for it... looks like i can by a non-retarded gascan online easy enough.
mod6: i feel like i've said all this before in here too, then jurov linked me to something lol.
mod6: this is what i really want: www.hearth.com/talk/attachments/img_0736-jpg.72703/
cazalla: google search shows it to be an eco but quite similar to a combi can.. seems to be user error imo :P
mod6: yeah, eco can. im not the only one, search "new gas can sucks"
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mod6: the first one i ever used i snapped the fucker while trying to unlock it...
mod6: i was so mad. the girl didn't want to talk to me for 20 minutes because she said was laughing like i was insane.
cazalla: never used an eco can so i can't say, i just use one of these
http://i.imgur.com/hcbpjLY.jpg with a spout but when i was doing some chainsaw work, they had these newfangled combi cans and those things are awesome
cazalla: a funnel i mean.. spout lol
mod6: wow. that's different.
cazalla: that is your typical petrol can found here
cazalla: for your mower and whipper snipper anyway
mod6: `whipper snipper' that's fantasic. im gonna call it that from now on.
mod6: here it's called `weed wacker' or 'weed whip'
cazalla: nah mate, it's a whipper snipper
mod6: that's so much better.
mod6: this channel is awesome
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trinque: I just got a 500gb SSD in the mail supposedly for amazon
trinque: for someone who does not live here... with no receipt or anything in the packaging
mats: i bought one, it was 150
trinque: this drive is not getting plugged into shit
mats: does that work on SSDs?
mats: suggested method to corrode mechanical drives
mod6: melt with blowtorch
mats: or just return it to sender
trinque: yeah, going to call amazon and ask wtf
mats: its expensive enough someone might go looking for it
trinque: "As you can see, inasmuch as the seal has not been broken, the warranty still stands." << lol!
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decimation: they didn't pass a law, they just made it known that making gas cans that vent to the atmosphere wouldn't make them very happy
decimation: "There’s also the problem of the exploding can. On hot days, the plastic models to which this regulation applies can blow up like balloons. When you release the top, gas flies everywhere, including possibly on a hot engine. "
mod6: bah, i've lived in one of the hottest places in the world. sure, the cans get bloated a bit. just don't stick your face 1" from the thing when opening the lid. simple.
mod6: my favorite: "So for the last three years, you have not been able to buy gas cans that work properly. ..."
mod6: and it is true, i spill much more gas pouring it out of the open mouth without shitsucker nozzle into a funnel with no goddamn breather hole.
trinque: mod6: yeah, lived in tx for a long time, had these
trinque: you just peel the thing slowly
trinque: though I never recall having one without a vent at all
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trinque: yeah, mine had tiny pinhole vents with a plastic cover
trinque: and then the spout on the other end
trinque: they still bloated up though and hissed when you popped the vent
mod6: typicall usg: take something that works perfectly well and then wreck the goddamnthing
trinque: somebody probably knew somebody that made the tardspout
mod6: what's also obnoxious about it, is now i cant easily pour gas on my fire like a normal person.
mod6: i've got a wide mouth USG pos that would light my damn balls on fire in the process.
trinque: heh for this and other reasons, bitcoin.
mod6: so now i have to fill up a plastic/glass cup and then throw it in there from a distance.
trinque: and really, is there any higher freedom than pyrotechnic freedom?
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trinque: how bout that, something that looks like a fucking tool
trinque will have to see if the local army surplus has it
ben_vulpes: how much does it cost, and does it *nix?
ben_vulpes: we can have wifi in the cardano after all!
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> <mircea_popescu> in retrospect, his going to war with the dealers sunk his car business. << Beware the trade guilds << prole ownership of cars is going away. period.
ben_vulpes: witness car2go, zipcar, the whole nine.
ben_vulpes: end game here is a share in a robo fleet.
ben_vulpes: might even approach full utilization of the capital equipment that way, instead of this insane 1:1 car:butt ratio where they're mostly stationary all of the time.
mod6: i like how ascii has the oldest looking deck of cards i've seen.
mod6: he has a eye for antique stuff.
mod6: when we were at the bazzar there was a bunch of neat trinkets
mod6: ok so you use this miracast thing and you link up a 500gb usb drive, good to go?
mod6: (is this like a google tv-like thing?)
mod6: ah. ok. looks like this one im looking at on google is $13.46 is that about what the cost is?
mod6: sure, but about same cost as pogo?
decimation: asciilifeform: worst case you can use it to watch turd tv
decimation: I was reading my ham radio experimenters magazine today
decimation: the writer of an article was complaining that some of the designs featured in earlier articles are cranked out by chinese and sold on ebay
decimation: in this case it was an LC meter I think
mod6: asciilifeform: very cool.
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mod6: how hard is gonna be to do a new buildroot for this one?
mod6: i'll give one a try as soon as it's built and ready to test.
decimation: Details for how Tesla can offer this quicker option can be found in CEO Elon Musk's blog post (available below), but the gist is that a new advanced smart fuse for the battery allows an increase in the maximum amp throughout from 1,300 to 1,500 amps. This will cost new buyers $10,000, but current P85D owners can get the upgrade pack electronics for $5,000 plus installation labor, for the next six months."
decimation: yeah, they stuff more lithium batteries I guess
decimation: that's the equivalent energy of about 2.5 gal of gas
decimation: asciilifeform: batteries suck, what you gonna do
decimation: if batteries were about 10x more energy density they would be the no-brainer solution
ben_vulpes: i'll take the ancient corvette any day.
mats: nah, does like 200-250mi in california iirc
ben_vulpes: my ac is plumbed from the hydraulic system
decimation: yeah I suppose they have some kind of heat pump
mats: which is almost half what a hybrid does.
ben_vulpes: it is terrifically good at what it does.
decimation: there's only so much efficiency you can glean out of 2.5 gal of gas
decimation: plus, unlike gas, it takes hours to 'fill' instead of seconds
decimation: and the batteries get worse with age and cold
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ben_vulpes: there's also the 'battery paste' stuff
mats: i'm cheering for tesla to somehow succeed, if musk improves batt tech thats a net win for mankind
decimation: even if improved by a factor of 2x (energy density at the same cost) it would be a huge win
ben_vulpes: just price gas out of everyone's hands.
ben_vulpes: no, seriously mats decimation. why improve batteries?
decimation: no there was a 'tesla teardown' I linked here awhile ago
decimation: ben_vulpes: there are loads of applications that become possible if you have portable high energy source
ben_vulpes: and what i ask again is wrong with bullets.
mod6: cell phones that last longer than 8 hours.
ben_vulpes: the cell phone was a bad branch on the tech tree.
mats: well, this is thinking small, but i'd like a 'smartphone' that runs longer than 24h
decimation: or double the power for the processor at the same lifetime
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
ben_vulpes: i'm growing fond of mp and alf's attitudes towards workstations.
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ben_vulpes: laptops are going to become more and more impenetrable boxes of turdware.
decimation: the main advantage to workstations: ecc and raid
ben_vulpes: you do not get the F1 engine power when derping around like armadillo.
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> decimation: and security! << at lesat you can easily rip out the shit you don't want. as opposed to debate weather or not to get rid of the screen.
ben_vulpes: decimation: they are now refusing to mark spam for me.
mod6: mircea_popescu: wifi antennas
ben_vulpes: i suspect that fitbit is paying to get through their filter.
decimation: I thought the whole point of spam was to force you onto gmail
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: do you know where this file resides? 6. Compile Eulora Add the following line to ~/.bash_profile:
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from what i gather the proposition is that these aren't different.
mod6: next they'll sell us a toothbrush that doubles as a jackhammer. won't need to prop up the dental insurance companies any more, no one will have any more cavity laden teeth.
mircea_popescu: it has a little leg to stand on, at least. inasmuch as usg claims a mandate to regulate everything, every failure of regulation is on their head.
mircea_popescu: well, what people do and what people mean to do may diverge, but nobody cares about the latter. the fellow who wrote it necessarily agrees, in the writing.
decimation: or the phasing out of proper refrigerant
mircea_popescu: or the incredibly colonialist "now that the third world can produce lightbulbs, it's time to 'move on' to a toxic 'alternative' that looks god awful and will poison the immediate environment with mercury"
mircea_popescu: imo that's the top of the list of that stupid shit, and it's not even usian
mircea_popescu: yes. the lightbulb scandal is the one thing to hang people for.
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decimation: actually they have plenty of them in the ground, it's just not very profitablel to mine/process
decimation: no I meant the rare earths, helium is a problem
decimation: really there's no 'running out' of any element - just 'no longer cheap'
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 01:43:53; ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> <mircea_popescu> in retrospect, his going to war with the dealers sunk his car business. << Beware the trade guilds << prole ownership of cars is going away. period.
mircea_popescu: usians are going away. not to be confused with actual trends for actual people.
trinque: "Special note to law-enforcement agents" << sad that they felt this needed to be said
mats: >Special note to law-enforcement agents: ... We are not talking about eliminating other types of states. We love most states, especially yours! Also, "hash" is another technical term and has nothing to do with cannabis.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: proles are people nao?
mircea_popescu: "including bigger batteries and a quicker acceleration mode, called "Ludicrous." That option will take the car from zero to 60 miles per hour in 2.8 seconds. During the hold music for the online press conference, the automaker played some of Ludacris' music"
decimation: mircea_popescu: what else you expect, selling baubles to idiots?
mircea_popescu: mats could have been lol but it lost me at "post-quantum"
ben_vulpes: i wonder how pete woulda treated the tesla
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 02:02:37; asciilifeform: and that's all you get in this mega-car ?!
mircea_popescu: anyway. yes, electric car is a piece of shit submarine-airplane joint nonsense, specifically because there is no battery equivalent of fuel.
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 02:03:20; decimation: if batteries were about 10x more energy density they would be the no-brainer solution
decimation: or they would just laser-cut their way through 'strong points'
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 02:07:12; mats: i'm cheering for tesla to somehow succeed, if musk improves batt tech thats a net win for mankind
mircea_popescu: the problem is, idiots working on wrong problems are not a net win for humanity.
decimation: yeah is there any evidence he has improved batteries or is even working on it?
mircea_popescu: which incidentally, since you don't ask, is exactly how love and hate works in this channel.
mircea_popescu: the more resources one throws at a wrong problem, the more thoroughly reviled.
gernika: Incidentally, I had the completely opposite impression that Tesla was catching on - having recently seen Tesla recharging stations at a Holiday Inn in Winnemucca. Seems I should have weighted more heavily the fact that -- no one was using them.
mircea_popescu: decimation well, hes improved the mass production part.
mircea_popescu: you can now get a 70kwh battery for cheaper than in 1995.
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mircea_popescu: decimation yeah. and the impression i got, from there an' everywhyere lese, is exactlly this : neat execution, uninnovative.
decimation: yeah, just a big package of standard lithium batteries
mircea_popescu: now if the us could just get over itself collectively and reach the humility of chinese peasants cca 1970, the us would be all ready to be china thirty years ago.
mircea_popescu: people like that black dude in wc metro are actually helping.
decimation: the liberal elite are trying the hardest to avert their eyes from him
mircea_popescu: i dunno that the us has an elite. merely a perception of such a thing does not cosntitute one.
mircea_popescu: who exactly, outside of that idiot mit kid, actually says "we are the elite and move out of our way" ?
decimation: somebody fills the plum book, decides what the ny times prints, prints usd, etc
mircea_popescu: if i go up to obama and take a leak on his shoes he's going to say "that's inappropriate" isn't he.
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decimation: you would be tackled and arrested (by 'his' people)
mircea_popescu: and charged with anything but "failing to respect the elite"
mircea_popescu: which is the tell tale sign of the absence of such an elite.
mircea_popescu: im all for prosecuting them AS IF THEY WERE, it's right and proper.
mats: am not an expert by any means but this air-metal stuff looks 'next gen'
gernika: Who was the last known elite person in usia? Someone in the Sicilian mafia? (serious)
decimation: mats: people have been coming up with battery tech for ages, with incremental improvement. I hope they can actually produce it
mats: I tend to think of the Kochs when 'elite' comes to mind
decimation: mats: the Kochs are universally reviled by the east coast set
mats: how about the Kennedys, then
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mircea_popescu: mats the kennedys never went out with a "we're better than you, so do it this way"
gernika: ah so it's been over 100 years.
williamdunne: What on earth made them think that they would go that high
mats: yeah wtf is this bet? NFLX is at 114
hanbot: mats mind the 7/1 split
mats: o, what's the ticker for the other
phf: i thought in u.s. liberal elite is a keyboard for professorial types with feminist wives, who go to opera and listen to npr
decimation: phf: yes, the same ones who staff usg bureaucracies and corporations
phf: decimation: "we like to listen to tchaikovsky. incidently alexander berzshinkiy is playing our favorite tchaikovsky works at kennedy center next month."
hanbot: the same ones who'd buy a keyboard cause it's called 'elite'
mircea_popescu: phf yeah, middle aged men looking about as sad as the nayor of mew york.
mircea_popescu: in a shitty 70s suit, looking like they won the zoo lottery and it's more monkeys.
decimation: what do you expect? being carried in the streets in a litter?
decimation: it's more complicated than you might think. in many us states it is against the law to build a hospital unless you 'prove' that there's a 'need' for one
mircea_popescu: the notion of "approved" for construction is foreign to my mental universe.
mircea_popescu: ima build a fucking wizard tower on my own land if i feel so inclined, and if anyone doesn't like it ima add cannons to it.
decimation: ^ that's highly illegal in nearly all locales in the us
decimation: especially if the plans are unapproved
mircea_popescu: i guess neartly all locales in the us are fortunate i don't give a shiot about building anything there.
TheNewDeal: mp, I've got a talented phocomelus that can man your wizard tower. 5 star techie
decimation: " If you do stop and talk to Jim, you'll discover that the hardest work in the whole project was fending off all kinds of attacks on him and his work coming from the federal government and the National Forest Service: he's on private property but he's surrounded by National Forest and the feds want complete control of everything. In Jim's words: the only thing they haven't done is they haven't shot him, yet."
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mircea_popescu: decimation adding that nonsense to the porcfest nonsense (or was it burning man ?) i'll lol once every house in the us has to have a special bathroom for any visiting cops
TheNewDeal: that was required by 3rd amendment v2.0
decimation: yeah it was burning man when usg agent demanded royal tent serviced by servants
decimation: the powerpoint even demanded that the thing be called 'blue pit'
mircea_popescu: and to think 99% odds are all these shenanigans is because the sexually deprived twerp was trying to get laid with some marginally fuckable middle aged woman.
decimation: he kinda implied he was better than 'little people', does that make him elite?
mircea_popescu: you gotta ask the girl out to be a man. that's the bar. you don't ask, you're not a man. you hint at her you might like to, you're a lesbian trapped in a transsexual's body, not a man.
decimation: I doubt there was a blank on the permit form that allowed one to declare one's superiority
mircea_popescu: they can hang as elite, sure. a hare can hang as a fox.
mircea_popescu: but it can never BE a fox, while living. nor can these pencilnecks be elite.
decimation: in this sense, the us is like a jealous mob - always keeping one eye out for the unforgivable crime of trying to clamour above the others
TheNewDeal: an envious lot, I think jealousy goes to far... implies too much work
TheNewDeal: you know. Seeing pencilneck prick drive a jaguar down the road. Slober at him, then go home and watch tv to forget
gribble: wn: envy n 1: a feeling of grudging admiration and desire to have something that is possessed by another [syn: {envy}, {enviousness}] 2: spite and resentment at seeing the success of another (personified as one of the deadly sins) [syn: {envy}, {invidia}] v 1: feel envious towards; admire enviously 2: be envious of; set one's heart on [syn: {envy}, {begrudge}]
gribble: wn: jealousy n 1: a feeling of jealous envy (especially of a rival) [syn: {jealousy}, {green-eyed monster}] 2: zealous vigilance; "cherish their official political freedom with fierce jealousy"-Paul Blanshard
TheNewDeal: I was thinking jealous should be the superlative
mircea_popescu: i ask because this is a fine example of english being a pigdin, where dictionaries don't define and nothing means anything specific
mircea_popescu: in sane languaged jealousy is sexual and envy material
danielpbarron: i thought it was that you're jealous of your own things and envious of other people's things
TheNewDeal: whats that one commandment about neighbor's wives?
gribble: wn: covet v 1: wish, long, or crave for (something, especially the property of another person); "She covets her sister's house"
mircea_popescu: may be a false friend, it comes from a time when wives were just another kind of chattel.
TheNewDeal: a person's wife is obviously their property. This material vs sexual is getting to intermingled
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mircea_popescu: don't covet another man's fleet of ships, gaggle of cunts or flock of deer.
TheNewDeal: have you published an actual 10 commandments yet? We need a v1.0
mircea_popescu: check it out - everything on the internet is a list now.
mircea_popescu: pretty sad indictment of the intellectual capacity of the people behind it.
TheNewDeal: usians crave buzzfeed and chive, nothing more, nothing less
mircea_popescu: even english lit professors a few decades ago would have laughed this pedestrian bullshit out of class.
mircea_popescu: "oh, you have no clue about composition so take refuge in the bullet point ? go back to the hoe."
TheNewDeal: 60 lines, what kind of piss-ass function is this? takes that many to clear the registers and program counter
mircea_popescu: " Snapping, clapping, yelling, whistling or just general rudeness to someone waiting on you are a sure sign to anyone in your company that if they spend enough time around you, youll eventually treat them with the same selfish nonchalance and disdain that you treat those who are paid to be nice to you."
mircea_popescu: someone "paid to be nice^H^H^H^H be my servant who fucks up his DUTIES is going to be called to task. before a sound beating.
mircea_popescu: and yes, anyone else contemplating the same position'd better get in their skulls that no, they don't get to fuck around on the job.
mircea_popescu: here we sit discussing "elites" in a space that doesn't even know how to keep the servants in line
mircea_popescu: or more importantly, that there IS such a thing as servants, and such a thing as a line for them to keep to.
TheNewDeal: it's a land of servants, and the alleged elites are house-negros
punkman: do they still make english butlers?
ag3nt_zer0: well I just spent a few hours following that eulora mac guide and last 2 steps yielded this: Install1 /usr/local/eulora/lib/libxdelta3-0.0.a ...failed updating 4 target(s)... ...skipped 8 target(s)... ...updated 15 target(s)... xxxx-Mac-mini:eulora MacMini$ ./euclient -bash: ./euclient: cannot execute binary file
ag3nt_zer0: so think I am done as I don't know what the hell I am doing
decimation: early yarvin had a point about this: "You are a Catholic. Your parents were Catholics. You were educated by Catholics. You are governed by Catholics. All your friends are Catholics. All the books you've ever read were written by Catholics.
decimation: "How do you convince this guy or gal that the answer to all the world's problems is not "more Catholicism"? How do you say, um, dude, this Trinity thing - the virgin birth - transsubstantiation... ya know...
TheNewDeal: and for the record punkman, the 10 crack commandments shouldn't be grouped with the liberal buzzfeed nonsense, because that's legitmate knowledge passed down by a semi-respectable ruffian
ben_vulpes: more like a jester, retelling stories he heard knights bandying about
ben_vulpes to numb the family-in-law with more booze
punkman: TheNewDeal: yeah those 10 are not so bad
TheNewDeal: decimation I had a friend convice me quite shortly after being confirmed as a Catholic. Just need to be open-minded. Tough for a large majority of sheeple
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: In Romanian is new and first the same word?
williamdunne: Trying to work out why a translation is so poor
decimation: TheNewDeal: I have no problem with catholics, but what's not obvious from what I pasted is that moldbug is making a point about being submerged in a particular point of view from birth
decimation: usians know nothing other than rabid egalitarianism
decimation: heh yeah I'm not a fan of the pope and the authority of the church over scripture
TheNewDeal: egalitarianism is the biggest epic fail of usian existence
TheNewDeal: but hey, write it on a few pieces of parchment, print it on the money, and it must be true