(trilema) mike_c: you must have better JS filtering
(trilema) mike_c: direct link redirects you
(trilema) mike_c: it is covered with floating ads and pops up tabs with warez.
(trilema) mike_c: can we never use tinypic again?
(trilema) mike_c: ;;later tell danielpbarron http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/NAPHEX/
(trilema) mike_c: the pipe is getting included in the link
(trilema) mike_c: kakobrekla: you see this? http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111771
(trilema) mike_c: cazalla: he got three things in a row without crashing. He's better than all the scoopbots combined :)
(trilema) mike_c: and pete has gotten much better. but footnotes are dangerous and usually misused.
(trilema) mike_c: hehe. you get an exception.
(trilema) mike_c: the best footnotes plugin for WP is /dev/null
(trilema) mike_c: oh, except for help text on tooltips on the headers. got to add that. but yeah, sorting is up, dates don't wrap in the tables anymore, and http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/all-users/
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: requested changes to wot site are live.
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: yes
(trilema) mike_c: yes
(trilema) mike_c: hehe. it's kakos all the way down.
(trilema) mike_c: yes, kako dumps the DB daily and I suck it up.
(trilema) mike_c: the conference generally sparks a rash of ratings.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, I got to get back to it.
(trilema) mike_c: uh oh, btcalpha has officially jumped the shark now :)
(trilema) mike_c: yeah. for the main table (7500 users), I'll make a separate page with the whole list.
(trilema) mike_c: re: empty comments, some ratings don't have a comment.
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: yes, I'll add JS sorting to the tables that fit on a page.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;seen nubbins`
(trilema) mike_c: (I don't really care about this though, disclaim away)
(trilema) mike_c: do foundation emails have a disclaimer at the bottom telling me to delete it if i got it in error?
(trilema) mike_c: fine, leave me out on a limb
(trilema) mike_c: bingo is the one who pointed it out :D
(trilema) mike_c: ben_vulpes: don't get mad at me because the foundation has tiny balls.
(trilema) mike_c: wusses :)
(trilema) mike_c: (for btcalpha.com)
(trilema) mike_c: bitch!
(trilema) mike_c: first best neutral home.
(trilema) mike_c: "I’m offering MIT as a neutral academic home for some of the conversations and the technical coordination"
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu:how's ny mike_c ? << beautiful day today. springtime in manhattan is not a bad thing.
(trilema) mike_c: very easy. i slept through most of it again
(trilema) mike_c: mod6: ah, good. not that getting stuck in BA would have been the worst thing in the world.
(trilema) mike_c: and that's the html files..
(trilema) mike_c: btw, 2 years of logs = 400mb (measured)
(trilema) mike_c: it didn't seem to be melting so well either :)
(trilema) mike_c: wasn't sure if he was going to make it
(trilema) mike_c: oh shit, did he miss his flight?
(trilema) mike_c: ;;seen mod6
(trilema) mike_c: yup, made it back pretty easily
(trilema) mike_c: hola senor vulpes
(trilema) mike_c: that's what I was thinking! I was impressed.
(trilema) mike_c: oh, wait, I thought you meant at the hotel :)
(trilema) mike_c: !up ascii_c3 stfu. mr spam is there? how do you know?
(trilema) mike_c: pop by c3 for a demo. or wait til next week.
(trilema) mike_c: williamdunne: yes.
(trilema) mike_c: polacks! well hopefully they have a stiff spine.
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: want to plug the new host? who won the evaluation?
(trilema) mike_c: email checked. thx.
(trilema) mike_c: trinque: it's even viral. now I am reminded to close my account too.
(trilema) mike_c: s/unqualified/inexperienced/
(trilema) mike_c: i think you are unqualified in that field. the wrong job is pretty mind numbing, especially if you don't see the path away from it.
(trilema) mike_c: right, which is why you should build your own boat...
(trilema) mike_c: so work on your own goddamn boat with the confidence you won't end up on the street.
(trilema) mike_c: but the safety net is still there. regardless of that, you could get a high paying job in software. just not one you want.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, build your next boat.
(trilema) mike_c: idk.. you are looking for a very specialized type of job. I don't think you'll get far complaining there aren't a lot of them.
(trilema) mike_c: see, i told you it was a money pit.
(trilema) mike_c: money pit, but ok.
(trilema) mike_c: it sounds like you've got the job you want. so what's the problem? you need more jobs?
(trilema) mike_c: not whole, just most. like any other field.
(trilema) mike_c: seems also flavors of this job would be present at security firms.
(trilema) mike_c: ok, so this is.. a circuit board?
(trilema) mike_c: that's not an example :) what's a xxxxx.
(trilema) mike_c: what's an example of a problem you would be asked to solve in this position.
(trilema) mike_c: so be clear about the position you are looking for that doesn't exist?
(trilema) mike_c: or a dozen other companies. very limited wot necessary.
(trilema) mike_c: you could walk into google tomorrow and command an absurd salary
(trilema) mike_c: i don't understand. maybe you are saying there is no demand for exactly what you want to do? there is plenty of demand for smart programmers.
(trilema) mike_c: oh, me too. I retract my retort.
(trilema) mike_c: (as i patiently wait for cardano)
(trilema) mike_c: um. obvious retort is obvious?
(trilema) mike_c: and get a less stressful job.
(trilema) mike_c: <+mircea_popescu> you know it's a major sign of early onset schizophrenia among other unsavory things ? << unsavory things like parenthood..
(trilema) mike_c: this is from the ethereum github repo. and have no fear buddy, they took your code.
(trilema) mike_c: I hate this: "I don't know that my pull request is the best way to handle it, but I thought it might poke the bear enough to move the conversation along" translation - my code is shit, but maybe it will annoy someone else enough that they will do it correctly.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah? you claiming to be gandhi now :)
(trilema) mike_c: danielpbarron: experiment is over, yes? given pace over the last few days the slow version is literally never going to finish.
(trilema) mike_c: and he said us, not ms
(trilema) mike_c: ah. game time and web time are not the same orders of magnitude :)
(trilema) mike_c: 1/3 of the total time is 53 microseconds? that's pretty fast..
(trilema) mike_c: issues be it's not returning anything from the last couple days
(trilema) mike_c: ^ mthreat?
(trilema) mike_c: search.b-a issues a known problem? doesn't seem to have indexed the last few days
(trilema) mike_c: gotta learn sometime
(trilema) mike_c: not much to know, but it's not genetic.
(trilema) mike_c: because the average ____ knows how to solder?
(trilema) mike_c: funkenstein_: blockchain sync progress on a SSD vs. 5400 rpm platters.
(trilema) mike_c: they got bought out by PE that wants its money.
(trilema) mike_c: same reason as everyone else?
(trilema) mike_c: ben_vulpes: yes, he is committed.
(trilema) mike_c: ognasty, ok, i can live with that. kakobrekla: for the record, i'm laughing :) good one.
(trilema) mike_c: aw fuck me, i got buterin in the logs? that feels dirty.
(trilema) mike_c: i will now smack myself in the face for 30 minutes.
(trilema) mike_c: here i am reading the logs thinking "april's fools is so dumb, who falls for this crap.. ZOMG 700,000 btc?!?".
(trilema) mike_c: ah, interesting.
(trilema) mike_c: it looks like some kind of odd orange.
(trilema) mike_c: i give up.
(trilema) mike_c: oh cool, cobra ink will sell you the printer with cis installed already
(trilema) mike_c: I like the thought of that a lot.. and it may be practical given wireless (so i can put the whole thing in a closet somewhere).
(trilema) mike_c: thanks for advice!
(trilema) mike_c: any thoughts on 5 color inkjet vs 3 color?
(trilema) mike_c: i have had mixed success with chinese knockoff ink cartridges, and have a suspicion they have led to the death of my current printer..
(trilema) mike_c: ah
(trilema) mike_c: i know little to nothing about this.. is toner cheaper than ink?
(trilema) mike_c: oh yeah, look at that.
(trilema) mike_c: well they don't make home laser color printers i don't think
(trilema) mike_c: how bout brand in general? HP/canon/etc?
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, i figured you'd be too high end. you don't have any workaday favorites?
(trilema) mike_c: shopping for a printer feels like swimming through a swamp for some reason.
(trilema) mike_c: goddamnit, i need a new printer. any recommendations? i want scan, print, and print pictures of my kid (nothing professional needed).
(trilema) mike_c: because if it was actually "sizable".. and they didn't get it back..
(trilema) mike_c: complaint has been unsealed, perhaps it is available? I'd love to see how many btc they took
(trilema) mike_c: which is funny enough as is :)
(trilema) mike_c: BingoBoingo: see NYT article, they (correctly) just call him mr. force.
(trilema) mike_c: you know the suffix isn't part of the abbreviated name, right? like bob jones III is just mr. jones.
(trilema) mike_c: hehe. always a good way to make someone leave. "here's some work"
(trilema) mike_c: did she ragequit?
(trilema) mike_c: that's what i said :)
(trilema) mike_c: to be clear, ben_vulpes, this is for future unspecified project to create node out of smaller device than pogo
(trilema) mike_c: it would be a bad wallet, but it would be a start
(trilema) mike_c: thing is, one could clone the code, rip out most of the stuff that wasn't the wallet, and voila, new binary that is a wallet.
(trilema) mike_c: (and double the test matrix)
(trilema) mike_c: the separate RI wallet binary could talk to RI bitcoind to send btc
(trilema) mike_c: right. that's what one is going to do with a wallet.
(trilema) mike_c: uh, run a pogo
(trilema) mike_c: oh. i thought somebody said it was on your todo list.
(trilema) mike_c: didn't you just say you would?
(trilema) mike_c: of course, i use 'we' loosely since all i've done is buy a pogo and wait.
(trilema) mike_c: serendipity will prevail
(trilema) mike_c: short-term (i.e. pogo) solution is to run bitcoind with the config switch. in the near future the foundation will remove the wallet and miner and then it will be smaller around the same time we want to fit it on a 8m device.
(trilema) mike_c: ok, so cut it later when we have a 8m device we want to fit it on.
(trilema) mike_c: ascii_field: you saying that cutting it makes it more portable? or just easier to fit on smaller arch.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, fine, but that's different from starting a pogo branch. if it gets cut from master branch, problem solved (if there is a problem?)
(trilema) mike_c: i thought it was like 5.5mb.
(trilema) mike_c: does the -disablewallet config switch exist in this version? that would be easier way to prevent children from playing with matches
(trilema) mike_c: but, now a separate pogo branch must be maintained?
(trilema) mike_c: right after the second word.
(trilema) mike_c: hehe. there you go nubbins`, that's how you do an analogy
(trilema) mike_c: apparently everyone else in south america already knew this about them :)
(trilema) mike_c: "how do you make money off an argentine? you buy them for what they're worth and sell them for what they think they're worth"
(trilema) mike_c: i heard a south american joke about argentina the other day
(trilema) mike_c: no? maybe a stretch.
(trilema) mike_c: Krafp cheese is a fork of kraft cheese designed to have a shorter shelf life but taste better.
(trilema) mike_c: that is oddly disturbing
(trilema) mike_c: how much are they paying you nubbins`?
(trilema) mike_c: mod6: soon. it'll be public after conference.
(trilema) mike_c: path 1: engineer each product perfectly and ship 20 months late (sorry s.nsa). path 2: push it out, make sure it works as advertised, if it gets popular and sticks around, smooth out rough edges.
(trilema) mike_c: with differing needs
(trilema) mike_c: part of the reason there are rough edges is that there are a lot of different products on mpex
(trilema) mike_c: x.eur hasn't been around that long. if it sticks around long enough, i'm sure it will work better.
(trilema) mike_c: this is part of the reason though too. products come and go, with different features.
(trilema) mike_c: but actually i thought we got that fixed
(trilema) mike_c: yes, that was suboptimal :)
(trilema) mike_c: ah, right
(trilema) mike_c: i'm trying to think of one, what balance change wouldn't have a reason?
(trilema) mike_c: i'm not trying to argue, was just trying to flesh out the issues. but i think we covered it.
(trilema) mike_c: and i mean that from a business perspective, i'm sure some of them are perfectly pleasant people who just happen to think they are going to daytrade their way to stardom.
(trilema) mike_c: let the brokers deal with them :)
(trilema) mike_c: who wants fucking daytraders?
(trilema) mike_c: but i can see you wanting more give you run a brokerage
(trilema) mike_c: hm. yeah, it pretty much is :)
(trilema) mike_c: but once in x years isn't bad
(trilema) mike_c: except one time where something got fucked with a proxy i think :)
(trilema) mike_c: but i've never heard about problems like 'my bid didn't match the best offer'
(trilema) mike_c: i've heard you talk about stuff like 'eventually consistent' and the statements missing some useful tracking features.
(trilema) mike_c: you think the trading engine isn't solid? or security?
(trilema) mike_c: around the edges it is rough, but the important parts are rock solid.
(trilema) mike_c: people have to pay to play, what do they need seed money for the game for?
(trilema) mike_c: and I think it's too bad because it's an exciting company. if they're never going to spend the money, maybe just special dividend it back to the shareholders.
(trilema) mike_c: which is why some people who would rather have the cash themselves are willing to dump it at 90% of book value.
(trilema) mike_c: davout: re s.mg. I think the problem there is that it is speculative whether they will be able to generate enough revenue to move the needle on the share price. so you might have your capital frozen in a stock that is basically valued as a pile of cash.
(trilema) mike_c: of course, the options exchange was hardly closed without reason (including some that remained unspoken), so it's tough to bring it back.
(trilema) mike_c: so without the options, where does mpex get revenue? it's an issue, and one that may be being reflected now in the stock price
(trilema) mike_c: but, point being, these stocks are generally held by serious investors and aren't going to have huge turnover.
(trilema) mike_c: heh, well, it's currently trading below book value
(trilema) mike_c: how do you trade in a company with no revenue and 10k bitcoin on the books?
(trilema) mike_c: ^ 1% of bitbet has turned over in the last month. that seems "right" to me. s.mg is untradeable because it has so much coin.
(trilema) mike_c: !t m s.bbet
(trilema) mike_c: people didn't brag/mourn about options trades either, and those were brutal
(trilema) mike_c: heh, yeah. but that said more about s.dice than anything else
(trilema) mike_c: also, the 'announcement' was recent and the slide started some time ago. my guess is it has more to do with the drop in revenue than anything else, but mp and I have argued that before :)
(trilema) mike_c: it's not secretive, it's just, why shout it?
(trilema) mike_c: i mean, i don't think i've ever seen anyone ever except you ask in channel.
(trilema) mike_c: jurov: wouldn't you expect most people to not ask for deposits/withdrawals in channel?
(trilema) mike_c: still at 36 pe. it's getting into "value" range now with 3% divs.
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: life's too short to read the foundation forum. i flipped the bozo bit on them, no more research required :)
(trilema) mike_c: you'll be up in 5 mins.
(trilema) mike_c: so use the ami..
(trilema) mike_c: ah, the great accident was around that version.
(trilema) mike_c: and/or the phoundation.
(trilema) mike_c: this retarded australian
(trilema) mike_c: do they give any justification for the version requirement?
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: maybe not. could be a much dumber reason. "It's all one node just with 600 addresses. This is what happens when you fucking pay people to sybil attack the network."
(trilema) mike_c: from last november
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, but there are still some on there
(trilema) mike_c: "RSA received $10 million in a deal that set the NSA formula as the preferred, or default, method for number generation in the BSafe software"
(trilema) mike_c: mats: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/20/us-usa-security-rsa-idUSBRE9BJ1C220131220
(trilema) mike_c: what? i thought it was common knowledge rsa sold their soul.
(trilema) mike_c: i blame whaleclub
(trilema) mike_c: ;;ticker
(trilema) mike_c: ;;calc 0.00028819 / (0.00000029 * 12)
(trilema) mike_c: ;;calc 0.0028819 / (0.00000029 * 12)
(trilema) mike_c: dunno what? what the hell is wrong with my code??
(trilema) mike_c: or at least, it's supposed to.
(trilema) mike_c: it's odd, because i explictly skip anything not in [0, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15]
(trilema) mike_c: anyways, thanks. my fault.
(trilema) mike_c: odd that never broke my shit before.
(trilema) mike_c: oh. yeah.
(trilema) mike_c: kakobrekla: that price! http://query.bitcoin-assets.com/?data=trades&since_id=121698
(trilema) mike_c: although it didn't have LEAPs
(trilema) mike_c: well, there was also MPOE
(trilema) mike_c: yeah. seems like it might be legit so far.
(trilema) mike_c: all the better if they feel they fked up and need to do better on next round.
(trilema) mike_c: i'm not interested in blaming anyone. but if these guys can speed up the schedule, let's keep them working.
(trilema) mike_c: i didn't actually think I knew all the details. so schedule for getting it by c3 is blown?
(trilema) mike_c: not empty-handed if they deliver though, right?
(trilema) mike_c: yeah. debugging is nice, delivering is better.
(trilema) mike_c: this still seems promising to me. so new little shop had a bug in their order form. doesn't make them useless.
(trilema) mike_c: it's nice that they figured it out.
(trilema) mike_c: so normal fuckup then, not even massively incompetent.
(trilema) mike_c: coinking: they have an affiliate program if you want to do promotion.
(trilema) mike_c: coinking: better to just ask your question.
(trilema) mike_c: ben_vulpes: I do have complete history, and was the only paying customer of kako's socket when he turned it off.
(trilema) mike_c: I'm picturing a guy standing there scratching his head wondering how he's going to get the X he needs that's in the bottom of that box.
(trilema) mike_c: gaming. for them, idk.
(trilema) mike_c: it's voice chat
(trilema) mike_c: how else to do it?
(trilema) mike_c: (technical analysts)
(trilema) mike_c: they aren't pretending to be bigshots, it's just a bunch of TA's derping around
(trilema) mike_c: do they look visually reasonable? no balls of solder hanging off the sides?
(trilema) mike_c: pics
(trilema) mike_c: americans only clap when landing in las vegas.
(trilema) mike_c: no, i don't sell btc for fiat or for gavincoin.
(trilema) mike_c: then you can undercut mp :) quick, make an exchange!
(trilema) mike_c: i can do the math for you if it's helpful
(trilema) mike_c: if you are > than that confident in gavincoin, it's a good deal
(trilema) mike_c: danielpbarron: you need to be 75% confident to break even
(trilema) mike_c: ah, yes. not to worry, the winklevii are almost done with that.
(trilema) mike_c: i used to enjoy marking the bull run by when MPOE had to update its strike prices. can we bring that back this year? :)
(trilema) mike_c: investors in US follow silicon valley like the midwest follows new york fashion. Now that they are pouring money into these startups, it could be a feeding frenzy kind of year.
(trilema) mike_c: i think she went broke..
(trilema) mike_c: did the fork happen?