mircea_popescu: in yet another shade of lulz : berkshire does not offer its many directors dso. because buffett believes you know, officers should face the music like any other shareholder. except it does offer it to buffett. because...
mircea_popescu: any liability that may attach to one from his being a director or officer.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform how can you tell that cryptome pdf is laced ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu so i finally mod'd your fix_trackbacks.php, uploaded it, and... it doesn't even show up. now i'm supposed to call customer support or some shit
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, it does appear to contain something specific to their hardware
decimation: but as we already established, the kernel is in the usb key
Vexual: here i remember when that kid rode in on a tricycle
joecool: phison, now that's a name i haven't heard in awhile
joecool: my ancient eeepc 901 had phison ssd's in it, first ssd's i ever had
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu i did indeed, though you're right that i should fiddle with those values because there's a reasonable chance i got them wrong!
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu btw should "table_prefix" be set to "wp_comments" or similar ?
mircea_popescu: i think the structure's copied after wp-config or /we the file is called where wp keeps its password in plaintext.
decimation: of interest in the 'macrofab' podcast: apparently they load the pick n' place with house parts only, and all the other 'unique' chips for each design are hand-placed
decimation: they do all the assembly in houston, but currently contract pcb out
decimation: but they are looking into in-house pcb for 24-hour turnaround assembly!
decimation: I suspect they pay good rates for competent techs
decimation: they are 'angel funded' but I think he said they can turn a profit at current prices
decimation: asciilifeform: I suspect retired old women who worked in electronics assembly
decimation: he said they use trays with mixed chips
decimation: they found all of their machines used at auction
decimation: well, if in large quantity, in p&p, otherwise by hand
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decimation: apparently houston has 30 assembly houses
decimation: so there's probably a quantity of skilled labor
decimation: well, with that I must retire, good evening
Vexual: poor fuck is prolly suicide oney on aussie dollar
Vexual: well the rba is going to say in less than aminute whether or not they change the interest rate
Vexual: it will have an effect on foreign exchange markets
Vexual: and.. the market was wrong
mircea_popescu: <decimation> heh there are such folks << yeah, ever since surgery moved to computers.
Vexual: who gives a shit about the aussie dollar now anyway
Vexual: why can't i trade sundried tomatoe futures? its supposed to be the fooking future
Vexual: there an article in the afr about fast algos on treasury bonds, and its wanting
Vexual: nope i think someone stole the tech pages
Vexual: choke on your cherry kid, you dont get it
Vexual: tell the editor you want the article on one page, otherwise it editorial
Vexual: like how do these unnamed organisations do what theyre doing
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assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 01:27:08; asciilifeform: doesn't ring a bell
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Vexual: loooks like allen ginsberg
Vexual: i emplore you to learn your memes
Vexual: this shitsgot ben10, where we know its useful
Vexual: obvo some punkman versio'
Vexual: her we might describe that best curly haircut
cazalla: Vexual, i swear i better understood you when i was drinking more
Vexual: yes, im approaching rehabness
Vexual: i understood you wehn you were drinking moar tooz
cazalla: have not been able to do so the past few weeks
Vexual: oh,myou know this one?
cazalla: your jukebox? can't play atm
cazalla: wouldn't want the missus to actually think i'm enjoying myself while she feeds bubs
cazalla: much the same until puberty eh?
Vexual: kids need the mp4 script eh?
cazalla: you're too drunk.. or not drunk enough
Vexual: liek when yr 6 mo ya dont need jewtube
Vexual: hear al lotta no fLASH, OR I PREFER THIS PARTICULAR SONG,,
Vexual: romainians say htgis song or that
Vexual: or a plane. if they check da specs
Vexual: ben10 dissed me once, hoped i dont have kids
Vexual: only tiem my feeling ever got hurt, its ok tho, hes my cousin
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BingoBoingo: Adlai: Not too much, just playing ;;seen who
Adlai: ;;seen gabriel_laddel
gribble: gabriel_laddel was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 14 hours, 32 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <gabriel_laddel> <mircea_popescu> gabriel_laddel he's very tender on the topic for some reason. << the lady doth protest too much, methinks
Adlai still waiting on matasune dox
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 07:44:42; cazalla: the fuck is an mp4 script
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assbot: Using the docker command to root the host (totally not a security issue) // reventlov's silly hacks ... (
http://bit.ly/1HKV0Dz )
mircea_popescu: "A representative for Venmo would not respond specifically to the question whether they were helping police with their investigation into Getzler"
kakobrekla: lol check it out > anonabox bad news: can get a root shell via local ipv6 with hardcoded root password "admin"
mircea_popescu: dude the way the world spins. the dons of the 50s didn't approve of drugs, at all. then in the late 60s it was like, "whatever, sell them to blacks, they don't have a soul anwyay". then in the 80s it was "whatever, sell them but don't let anyone know". by now it's like... "sell drugs and write opinions for the spectator and send the customer list spam emails to upvote you"
mircea_popescu: meanwhile "criminal possession in the seventh degree", they are going to run out of degrees. best talk to imperial china for some more degrees.
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mircea_popescu: "If the siteA string is empty, it is taken to be the local machine. A target like @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@victim would cause high load by recursive finger invocations, and could be used to contribute to a DOS attack. Michael H. Warfield reports that in a SUN NIS environment it is easy to kill a network using finger."
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mircea_popescu: "So yeah, the Anonabox appears to be working but it is downright shocking that the WiFi connection is running unencrypted. Anybody within range of the Anonabox can connect to the network and sniff all network traffic."
mircea_popescu: it's fucking weird it uses wifi i nthe first place o.O
mircea_popescu: wouldn't you want your tor router quietly on a cable ?
mircea_popescu: that Lars Bøgild Thomsen dude... nice work on the anonybox piece of crud. however... he's embedding facebook, running a wiki and a phpbb forum he wants you to comment on, there's no way to leave a comment on his article (wp blog) without "being logged in" and in general what the shit already.
mircea_popescu: "BACKGROUND Hospira is a US-based company that maintains offices in several countries around the world." ... srsly ? us-cert.gov is a pr service now ? "please god anything, some text in here to dilute this shit o lord"
chetty: that must be logged in or use whatever social media thing is getting very annoying for sure
mircea_popescu: let's make glibc no longer compile statically and github not work. that'll make the foss so much better.
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mircea_popescu: in today's lol at people who are not lawyers but think they are : quora has a tos and a special-for-usg tos. the tos says it's the only agreement between user and quora. the special-for-usg tos says "language in the Quora ToS and Quora Privacy Policy indicating it alone is the entire agreement between the Parties is waived"
mircea_popescu: but in any case, the comparison between the two is kind-of funny, for the very bored student of decaying empires, and of the cruft their decay pushes into the margins.
punkman fondly remembers the "by entering this website you promise you aren't a USG agent"
mircea_popescu: "Quora hereby agrees not to serve or display any third party commercial advertisements or solicitations on the profile page of any user who uses the Quora Services on the Agency's behalf as identified by associating a .gov or .mil email address with the Quora account"
punkman: oh yeah, super common in the olden days
punkman: various things like that, yes
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mircea_popescu: "saying a man has agreed to plead guilty to conspiring to illegally fix the prices of posters he sold online."
punkman: there's a ton of companies selling price fixing software, they call it "repricing"
mircea_popescu: meanwhile you can't get a competing quote on your fucking health insurance.
punkman: maybe the guy didn't pay enough taxes?
mircea_popescu: but hey, protecting "the american consumer" from price fixing in commodified markets by actors who are in no way in control of the production flux is worth the federal dime now.
funkenstein_: takes me all day to (barely) catch up on logs here
funkenstein_: am i correct in summing up turd polishing discussions, that once DNS is fully removed static linking will be back on the table?
mats: contactless smartcard emulator.
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ static linking of what ? as far as bitcoind specifically goes, iirc nubbins` reported he managed one.
funkenstein_: yes bitcoind. I'm glad to hear that, i was worried by some of the discussion revealing more issues in gcc / linux.
mircea_popescu: lulziest shit of all time : "Drone strikes are associated with decreases in both the frequency and the lethality of militant attacks overall and in IED and suicide attacks specifically." ~RAND Corporation.
mircea_popescu: orly ? this is like romanian electoral polling data. strictly contradictory to plain evidence, but hey, "it's an institution!111"
mircea_popescu: yeah. an institution you made for the purpose of putting out false "studies".
mircea_popescu: meanwhile everyone in pakistan thinks the us the enemy, and their interior minister thinks ~2k out of ~2k strikes actually missed their mark and killed random people instead.
chetty: that publishing of 'studies' and 'polls' may be one of the greatest ills of our times
funkenstein_: A is associated with decreases in the frequency of A
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nubbins`: can post the turd if anyone's curious, but without instructions on how to replciate, it's just that -- a turd
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> posters. <<< oh fuck
nubbins`: mircea_popescu:what was nubbins` situation wit hthat btw <<< my current boot order is mmc->usb->tftp->nand
nubbins`: altho fwiw i suspect tftp-boot just hangs if there's no kernel present on the wire
nubbins`: ben_vulpes:perhaps i am behind the times, but is there a buildroot config that's been passed around? <<< it's a bit of a frankenstein... i run make pogoplug_defconfig and then i run make nconfig to set a handful of extra flags
nubbins`: haven't had the time to actually diff a .config before and after and turn it into a patch
nubbins`: but in nconfig, you'll need to enable at least: large file (>2gb) support, ipv6 support, rpc support, wchar support, c++ support, stack protection
nubbins`: some of those maybe can be ditched once bitcoind gets trimmed down... but these are all just toolchain options, so if you can bear the extra compile time, it's not like it'll make your kernel any fatter
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i took it you were working on teh instructions
mircea_popescu: "but without instructions on how to replciate, it's just that -- a turd"
nubbins`: still can't replicate the build
nubbins`: i know *what* to do -- rip out unused parts of boost with bcp -- but i keep cracking eggshells in the batter
mircea_popescu: on the "compile time" front, i'm happy to announce eulora got tested on ancient athlon i + 768 mb ram and ancient nvidia 5k series vid card. it compiles in like an hour, and runs.
nubbins`: i saved my entire bitcoind dir from the successful build, so i know precisely which boost headers and libs are needed
nubbins`: just can't figure out the BCP options to auto-strip the crud
nubbins`: may have to just to a manifest and then modify pinkposixw/e's script
mircea_popescu: still testing to see what'll be minimum rec spec, but anyway.
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nubbins`: o fun, i'll be in cleve-land thne
nubbins`: the juxtaposition isn't quite clear w/o viewing the videos, unfortunately
mircea_popescu: hm, when a motherboard comes on when the supply comes on, no buttons or anything, and then won't atx powerdown
nubbins`: wow, one of woodcollector's shills turned on him, and now wc's socks are accusing the shill of being wc
nubbins`: this is some daytime-drama shit
nubbins`: well, there goes $20/barrel...
mircea_popescu: what the fuck do the dollar values even mean ? the dollar's worth in 2020 is drastically indeterminate
mircea_popescu: and that applies to pricing goods. oil above the dollar in the pricing hierarchy.
nubbins`: mats, drop bombs on x for a decade and a half and see how sincere the Xers are about anything
mats: "When the last KRG delegation visited Baghdad, it was told that the [Iraqi] government literally has run out of money."
mats: "A month before Maliki left office, there were $18 billion in the Development Fund for Iraq at the New York Federal Reserve Bank, plus the KRG’s share of 2014’s budget. When Abadi was sworn into office, there was only $1 billion left."
mircea_popescu: "Other governments, urged by the IEA and IMF, will reduce or eliminate subsidies to end users of petroleum products. Such modifications to end-user price regimes are most easily implemented when consumers perceive prices to be relatively low. Robert Mabro correctly anticipated such developments following the 1986 oil price collapse. OPEC members will end up with an even smaller percentage of the end-user value of their
mircea_popescu: principal export than they received prior to adopting the market share strategy and this will be a permanent shift."
mircea_popescu: derp. opec must sell less oil because otherwise we will steal even more of their revenue via internal taxation.
mircea_popescu: mats what exactly do the americans expect local traitors to do other than steal as much as possible ?
mircea_popescu: that's the entire fucking point. why exactly else would maliki or anyone else EVEN TALK dumbass.gov ?
mats: who knows. i'm sure most of the staff guys over there are busy avoiding locals for fear of catching a bullet.
mats: ye good ol' "green on green"
nubbins`: "once you ascertain you have the alignment correct, you open the window, alert the banking sector, and press 'print'"
mircea_popescu: "John Gault is Co-Director, Executive Master in International Oil and Gas Leadership, The Graduate Institute, Geneva."
mircea_popescu: co-director & executive master of the international word word leadership fictional entity, geneva.
nubbins`: who is john ga... oh, you just said
nubbins`: (MFW ayn rand died on social assistance)
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mats: this 'Executive Master' construct is new to me
mats: imma add that to my list of titles.
mircea_popescu: i kinda imagine "the graduate institute" to be like... the film, the graduate. except in an institution.
mircea_popescu: mats i suppose ima import it in my harem. i can be the master, and the slavegirls could be executive masters.
funkenstein_: ohio has been mentioned a few time here recently so
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i don't get what the issue is. can you summarize ?
nubbins`: duffy was caught a while back charging a ton of frivolous expenses to his senate expense account
nubbins`: like a house he never lived in
nubbins`: unanswered is why the Canadian senate is stuffed with washed-up former journalists
nubbins`: and nobodies like Patrick Brazeau
nubbins`: who, after being suspended from the senate, got a job at a strip club and threw his girlfriend down a set of stairs
nubbins`: It was all on live TV yesterday morning. Pierre Trudeau's grieving ex-wife had come to view the Centennial Flame shortly after a ceremony marking the departure of his coffin to a funeral train bound for Montreal. Margaret Trudeau was trying to compose herself and nodded quietly as people offered their condolences.
nubbins`: Suddenly, somebody pushed his way through. Margaret turned and said "Oh, hi Mike," and smiled broadly. "This was Misha's birthday," the man said, referring to the Trudeaus' youngest son Michel, who died two years ago. Her face froze and she burst into tears. She turned around and quickly walked away. "It's Michel's birthday today," she said in a strained voice to those around her. "I didn't remember." Michel, the youngest of her
nubbins`: three sons with Trudeau, died nearly two years ago in an avalanche and his body was never found.
nubbins`: ladies and gentlemen... mister mike "dr. robotnik" duffy
nubbins`: somewhat more succinctly from the toronto star: "In 2000, four days after Pierre’s death, Margaret went out. She was confronted by a TV reporter, the punchably cruel Mike Duffy, now a senator, who barked at her, “How do you feel today, Mrs. Trudeau? Have you remembered it’s Michel’s birthday?” She collapsed."
mike_c: danielpbarron: experiment is over, yes? given pace over the last few days the slow version is literally never going to finish.
nubbins`: former prime minister pierre trudeau, who famously enacted the war measures act in 1970 when couple politicians got kidnapped and murdered
nubbins`: "what of the bleeding hearts?", he was asked
nubbins`: only that the senate is full of subhumans
nubbins`: appointed by our own lizard hitler, stephen harper
nubbins`: mircea_popescu incidentally, trudeau's son (because this is what politics in north america is now) is currently the leader of the national liberal party, w/ maybe a 50-50 shot at the big seat next election
assbot: Justin Trudeau -- Patrick Brazeau Charity Boxing Match -- English Coverage of Complete Fight - YouTube ... (
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nubbins`: there's trudeau and the strip-club-managing, girlfriend-stair-down-throwing senator... /boxing each other/
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 02:43:33; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the ubiquiti example dovetails nicely with the thread re: unemployed reversers. if persians happily buy turdware, they either haven't many, or haven't any competent ones, or they are all occupied with something else (what ?)
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mircea_popescu: fine. that's it. i'm gifting a friggin bitcoin and whatever, the gods have spoken.
punkman: TNT was reasonably fast last time I used them
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:hm, when a motherboard comes on when the supply comes on, no buttons or anything, and then won't atx powerdown << what did you do to it
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ben_vulpes: ascii_field: 'what did you do to it' << walked down a dark alley all unsuspecting like
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lobbes: 'The power went out during the daily State Department briefing, with Deputy Spokesperson Marie Harf using a phone light to continue taking questions from reporters.' << heh
punkman: do all power outages make the news over there?
ben_vulpes: dc really is the center of all american rot, isn't it?
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: in practice, rot is a very 'peer2peer' affair
ben_vulpes: brownouts and power outages *do not happen* here.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: not only do they happen where i live, but with sufficient frequency that i'm stuck using very elaborate power conditioning gear
ascii_field: at present time, i have a massive double-converting ups
ascii_field: before that, a dynasty of ordinary ups, which tripped so often that they frequently died
chetty: well with the greenies shutting down power plants all over its only gonna get worse
ascii_field: chetty: largely a cover for existing infrastructural decay.
ascii_field: the kind of thing that dying empire cannot really hide for long
ascii_field: it also shows where the -actual- usg priorities are
ascii_field: (-not- the elected muppets, for one thing)
ascii_field: mats: ... similar gig as you, i imagine: working for 'the man' in compartmentalized ops, churning out weaponized exploits and such. << believe or not, i was never in this business. not even from ethical considerations, but starting with the fact that it is a -terrifyingly- dreary kind of work, carried out largely with brute force 'fuzzing' by gigantic stables of fungible slaves.
ascii_field: afaik that is where the bulk of the 'salable' vulns actually come from.
ascii_field: anyone interested in becoming this kind of 'agricultural' labourer - knows where to go.
chetty: I cant help but find it delicious it hits dc
ascii_field: chetty: wake me up when it hits something important
ascii_field: (for n00bz: the subcontractors which do most of the practical 'usg-ing' are headquartered largely in north virginia, and have massive backup power and other every other conceivable luxury, large and small, on the grounds.)
chetty: well as I heard the power went out in 'useful' places, the white house,the state department ... :D
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ben_vulpes: "wheels have had a shaky beginning - several have fallen over when their rotational inertia dropped below critical stability thresholds or ran into other unforseen obstacles."
ben_vulpes: looked like an x at this tiny fontsize
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Well there's two solutions to your problem. Optometrics or Moar fontsize.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: it's a bit more complex than that. fontsize is nearly irrelevant, as i parse visually first by the structure of the code and then by wordshape. mispellings are rare, due to backround jobs that compile/evaluate text buffers on save and linters that have rules about symbol definition.
ben_vulpes: my goal is primarily to cram as much text on the screen as possible before losing structure or wordshape
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: desk not full - could have moar
BingoBoingo: Consider 4 36"s I say from my adequate to purposes 11.6" screen.
ben_vulpes: there's a van with a setup akin to that first link in Snow Crash of which i was always enamore.d
ben_vulpes: what I *really* want, though, is not even a desk but 2 six-axis arms that keep my keyboard and monitors in the appropriate ergonomic relationship.
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mircea_popescu: but from what i gather, it got the 6 pin cpu power in its 8 slot
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> ben_vulpes: not only do they happen where i live, but with sufficient frequency that i'm stuck using very elaborate power conditioning gear << you and fucking indians, i swear.
mircea_popescu: everybody warned me when i came here, "o may gawd power outages". i ended up overprovisioning power by such a wide berth it's ridiculous.
mircea_popescu: a village's worth of african children could have gone through prostitution school for that dough.
mircea_popescu: i saw ONE power outage in a year, which was most likely the building bus being old.
ascii_field: outages are not even as annoying as brownouts and, especially - spikes
mircea_popescu: spikes used to be reasonably frequent in the 80s in ro. but not major spikes, just, 5-10% sort of things. but then they upgraded the infrastructure and it no longer relies on its own inductance
mircea_popescu: yeah well, probably because they're running on obsolete romanian transformers
ascii_field: to the point that it was a given that a tv set would have a 'stabilizator' underneath, buzzing steadily
mircea_popescu: yeah, because why make the 100kv transformers weigh 180 tons. make them 24 and then fuck up the entire power supply.
ascii_field: the type of habitation traditional in american suburbs makes civilized power distribution astronomically expensive
mircea_popescu: o wow, fucking sprawl. you probably can't just get a huge 100kv - 2kv stepper and feed a whole neighbourhood, must have like 100kv - 12kv - 1,x kv multistep hu
ascii_field: 120v (america) also entails 2x the current for given wattage, on the low transformer end
ascii_field: early to the game - does not translate to 'better', when the result is massive antiquated crud everywhere, that no one contemplates replacing because $maxint
ascii_field: it is a marvel that they didn't stick with edison's direct current grid
ascii_field: it was a bad idea -inherited directly from edison dc grid-
ascii_field: (for light bulb - and resistive heaters, similar - compatibility.)
mircea_popescu: you know... the more i think of this the more it appears a major strategic problem for the us. larger than fucking isis, larger than the chinese fmi, larger even than their inability to maintain railroad infrastructure.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: think of their peculiar system of weights and measures
mircea_popescu: think : in the coming economy, the ability to easily get good clean power in the 10 to 100kw range of european towns is going to weigh very heavily
mircea_popescu: because production in future is going to look more like your garage than ford factory.
mircea_popescu: so the fact that giancarlo milanese can ask for a 380v line today and have it working in may whereas joe washington can't even get it... well...
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: one thought that i can't possibly be the first to think is that miners have a tremendous incentive to get off their government mains grids.
ascii_field: (gives away their position, among other problems)
mircea_popescu: cheaper for miners to cut the head of the governments in question than to create alt-powergrid.
mircea_popescu: you're thinking of govt as this fixed item. it is the least fixed item of all.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: power grids as we know them are an inherently totalitarian institution
mircea_popescu: there's somethin wrong with authority in the hands of the stupid,
ascii_field: egypt went on for a good long while, iirc.
mircea_popescu: i'd run the lights if the lights ran on your liquefied babies.
mircea_popescu: they got it in their head that "parking lots are dangerous" because "women get raped" because hey, it's a literary conventions, and nobody can accuse us writers of not being lazy.
mircea_popescu: nevermind that the rapes that do happen happen in parking garages not lots.
mircea_popescu: so... now you have to have a pole every 10 meters, and can't even turn because LIGHT OMG
ascii_field: street lamps where i live often suffer from a peculiar glitch where they switch -off- if someone walks near
ascii_field: (light from adjacent poles falls on you, reflected back to photocell on the light in question)
mircea_popescu: dude there was a light like that on the road out of timisoara, he was the lol of all time. we'd like visit to make fun.
ascii_field: especially fun to watch folks suggest nonsensical explanations for the effect
funkenstein_: think of their peculiar system of weights and measures <-- nasa made official call to move to metric system once
funkenstein_: the order moved down the command chain, arrived in machine shop
funkenstein_: request for new tools went back up the command chain.. end of that attempt
ascii_field: the loss in physical plant would be comparable to a world war
funkenstein_: it is conceivalbe to slowly phase in on replacements?
mircea_popescu: which reminds me of a joke : when they entered the eu, the romanians starting bidding on all sorts of contracts. like for instance, a 1947 british rfq to move the country to european style driving.
mircea_popescu: the police dept of bumfuck offered to write a plan and outline strategy and everything.
mircea_popescu: then the outline showed up. "the change will be introduced in phases. for the first five years, only trucks and vehicles over 5 tons will switch to driving on right"
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> the loss in physical plant would be comparable to a world war << actually, not anymore. the us has already lost so much physical plant since the 50s it might have been through half a dozen world wars.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: ... and i -still- have to keep two sets of drill bits
ascii_field: that was the only real effect of the u.s. botched metric push
mircea_popescu: and i gotta keep two sets of womenz. what's your point.
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 19:00:57; ascii_field: mats: ... similar gig as you, i imagine: working for 'the man' in compartmentalized ops, churning out weaponized exploits and such. << believe or not, i was never in this business. not even from ethical considerations, but starting with the fact that it is a -terrifyingly- dreary kind of work, carried out largely with brute force 'fuzzing' by gigantic stables of fungible slaves.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field there's exactly three things a woman can do with herself that doesn't work as the housemaid of a dude.
mircea_popescu: one is working the pick-n-placers. the other's working the masturbatrons. the third's you know, "using her head", as in, this fuzzer, that fuzzer...
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: there are quite likely more women in the deep-water oceanic oil prospecting industry than in vuln digging
mircea_popescu: the sortage is generally, "whether she thinks she's pretty", "whether she thinks she's smart"
mircea_popescu: every farm i ever saw was eastern european / azn women. like, 9:1 women or more.
ascii_field: assuming that is what mircea_popescu was thinking of
mircea_popescu: at the level we're discussing here, there's really no difference between working as " gawker vp of pr" or working as "candi19874 on myfreewebcams". srsly.
ascii_field: but between looking for 0days and these two items - yes, difference
mircea_popescu: yes. because this is for "girl think she's pretty" and those for "girl thinks she's smart".
mircea_popescu: but difference between spam farm and 0day farm, and "code farm" generally .. also nil.
ascii_field: i have yet to meet, or even hear of, any females in that business other than the two or three world-famous ones
mircea_popescu: these are the three female professions. the differences within them are minute.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: let's phrase it this way - my circle 3 degrees out includes perhaps a thousand such slaves, and i was told in no uncertain terms that there were no females.
ascii_field: this is not 'god's word' but hearsay, yes.
mircea_popescu: the argument i always hear is, "dudes have no focus and can't be trusted to pay the fuck attention"
mircea_popescu: eh, pick and place is like waitressing. so you missed a spot. big deal.
ascii_field: the next slave will notice what you missed, is the notion
mircea_popescu: yeah but you need to know / learn a shitload more to do this than to wipe the table / put the pin in the hole.
ascii_field: for what it's worth, my hypothesis for the maleness of the profession is that it is the very epitome of greenspun's tournamentmarket
ascii_field: virtually the whole motivation comes from 'what if -i- catch the big one'
ascii_field: mircea_popescu -might- be thinking of a different profession than i was
mircea_popescu: how would 0day slave distinguish between what he's told he's doing (unit testing) and what he's actually doing ?
ascii_field: if it's one that includes gurlz to any detectable extent, then almost certainly
ascii_field: aha mircea_popescu was thinking of testers/qa.
mircea_popescu: you hire a huge team of those and cut the job up to them
mircea_popescu: oh, then yes we were thinking of very different things.
ascii_field: the qa meat robots determine 'yes it crashes if you feed it an odd number of letters in the address field' etc
mircea_popescu: but i say the pigs make ham. as that one butcher observed, "i only follow the lines already there"
ascii_field: the folks i was speaking of - determine whether said crash was exploitable
ascii_field: normally they forgo the meat robots and use scripts
ascii_field: this practice is traditionally called 'fuzzing'
mircea_popescu: no, fuzzing is when you forego scripts and use humans.
mircea_popescu: the thing where you use scripts is bruteforce i guess. ripper-it
ascii_field suspects a 'national' variation in terminology
ascii_field: over here, 'fuzzing' is done with machines.
ascii_field: we spoke, for instance, of fuzzing gpg format.
ascii_field: 'high-tech' fuzzers actually spot differences in branch outcomes at every conditional jump as consequence of nth bit in input having changed
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 20:07:39; ben_vulpes: my goal is primarily to cram as much text on the screen as possible before losing structure or wordshape
ascii_field: but there are productive approaches that don't reduce to pure brute strength
mats: instrumenting tool e.g. afl plus qemu
mircea_popescu: "Court records say the laughing men initially tried to use a broomstick for the deed, which was videotaped on a cell phone. But then one of them said, I have something better and retrieved a chorizo sausage from the stations refrigerator, the records say."
jurov: waitwhat? my dad worked in QA of "tesla elektroakustika" and pick and place was considered woman's job
jurov: "i was told in no uncertain terms that there were no females" was about which occupation then?
ascii_field: jurov: spam farms is what mircea_popescu might have thought i was speaking of
mircea_popescu: the "spam farms" and the monkey-on-a-stick farms where microsoft code is actuallywritten, and this stuff... really, what's the difference ?
mircea_popescu: people coming out of any of them come out with the same sorts of "ideas"
mircea_popescu: (for a real world example, the derp with the btctc exchange is certainly a victim)
mircea_popescu: i suppose this may be the issue, i classify culturally, ie, by the beast's mental excrement. ascii_field you prolly classify by some sort of "what the job is". as if jobs actually are about something.
ascii_field: the difference is, as al schwartz phrased it, 'does your assembly line require phds? if yes, your firm is doomed'
mircea_popescu: "Heartbleed is a read buffer overflow. What that means is that an application is reading outside the boundaries of a buffer. For example, imagine an application has a space in memory that's 10 bytes long. If the software tries to read 20 bytes from that buffer, you have a read buffer overflow."
ascii_field: and yes, to me - jobs are about something.
mircea_popescu: for the record, this seems to me disqualifyingly dumb.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field not these jobs. these jobs are about the narrative in the "worker's" head.
ascii_field: that's not called industry, that is called 'psych ward'
ascii_field: 'i am a carpenter.' 'show me some wood.' - patient pulls out wad of own shit
ascii_field: the tool which mats linked to requires having source, yes
ascii_field: it is only moderately difficult to build a variant which does not.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> listen to me, never read text not > 1 cm tall. << why aren't you talking about arc-seconds?!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes because arc seconds don't actually matter in this discussion.
ben_vulpes: 1cm doesn't make sense in that 1 cm is huge if close and tiny if far away
mircea_popescu: but as long as it's 1cm you'll seat yourself at a convenient distance.
mircea_popescu: if you're looking at much finer detail you push it in too close and do all sorts of damage.
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ben_vulpes: that's an interesting normalization, mircea_popescu.
mircea_popescu: the body is complex, the brain the most complex part, and the circuitry that drives vision the most complex of that. let it work rather than try to be smarter than it on fewer neurons.
pete_dushenski: a family physician i know also recommended looking at least 20 ft away from the screen every 20 mins to allow eyes to relax
mircea_popescu: the specifics vary, but the red thread always is, "the thing works fine, the less you fuck with it the longer you'll enjoy it."
ben_vulpes: yes but whence the 1cm number -- whence!?
ascii_field: i can also tell that the work of mircea_popescu is not ever i/o bound.
ascii_field: in that try reading disassemblies with 1cm tall characters.
mircea_popescu: hey, i am not proposing every blind figurine carver can be a king.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes sorta like why is the golden ratio so golden ?
trinque: bind size up/down sensibly, good to go
mircea_popescu: im just proposing that people don't cook like they're carving figurines.
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: foreign aid article << it's a surplus-burner
ascii_field: 'The war, therefore if we judge it by the standards of previous wars, is merely an imposture. It is like the battles between certain ruminant animals whose horns are incapable of hurting one another. But though it is unreal it is not meaningless. It eats up the surplus of consumable goods, and it helps to preserve the special mental atmosphere that the hierarchical society needs. War, it will be seen, is now a purely
mircea_popescu: except the us is not particularly hierarchical, and it has no surplus of anything.
mircea_popescu: best thing that could happen to the us is force every citizen under 18 to live a year in africa.
ascii_field: modern usa's 'aid' is about the dough coming back to the right coffers, washed, yes
mircea_popescu: then import as many african kids to live within the now empty nests
ascii_field: something rather different than mr o's concept
mircea_popescu: and after the year let the family pick which one they wish to keep.
pete_dushenski: china seems to be sending a few, though not all, young men and women to africa, likely to beneficial effect
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: they live on reservations with no locals permitted, iirc
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski terribru for them. chinese women that go black definitely won't go back.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: do the ones who 'go' horse - ever 'go back' ?
pete_dushenski: ascii_field every country's aid is intended to come back to 'right coffers'
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the whores that go hoarse don't go back, no.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu terribru for the chinese? does chinese woman really desire random african suitor?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field you ever been in one of those cars with memory seats ?
mircea_popescu: well, kinda how vagina works. whenever excited, it kinda goes back to wherever it had fun last.
pete_dushenski: there's no shortage of african gents here, ones crafty enough to game their way over the border, none of whom seem to be knocking up any girlfriends of mine
pete_dushenski: that makes the vagina like an old man with a mid- or late-life crisis
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pete_dushenski: well, the ones who didn't are now buying the cars to reimagine themselves as the ones who did!
pete_dushenski: given that the sportier metal goes for $100k+, it's the former qb of the football team buying it
mats: ascii_field: there's a decent amount of work done with afl to enable black box testing
mats: (i spent some time this month experimenting with afl -- good stuff)
pete_dushenski: mebbe the 12-core mac pro, booted with danielpbarron's openbsd hack, will be our "muscle computer" in 30 years
pete_dushenski: i can't think of anyone else selling desktop hardware for $10k
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> what will a muscle computer be ..? << DEC Alpha overclocked and cooled by Olympian means
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Look for the ones listed with an extra figure or two in their price to this day
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Nah, these are potential hot rods
pete_dushenski: imagine those in your study, with custom ducting to the outside, just awhirin' away
pete_dushenski: "whatcha doing, honey, plotting launch trajectories?" "just chatting with the boys"
pete_dushenski: "At various points in the budgets, [Rand] Paul questions the constitutionality of progressive income taxes, eliminates almost all federal education and housing programs, ends the biggest anti-poverty tax credits, eliminates foreign aid, institutes large defense cuts, slashes the State Department budget by more than two-thirds, and cuts the Food and Drug Administration budget to limit government "intrusion into
pete_dushenski: sounds like paul has himself a functioning head, relatively speaking of course
punkman: "continue helping on a volunteer basis to help the Foundation during this financially austere time." << austerity strikes again
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a muscle computer is an amd fx + 64 gb of memory + swap on a ssd 1+0 raid array.
trinque: pete_dushenski: it will be interesting to watch what happens there, if anything
trinque: I supported his father in 2008, felt pretty "mehhhhh" about doing the same by 2012
trinque: had his father been elected, the whole rest of the govt would've obstructed any substantial changes he'd want to make, so I don't know what good would've come of it
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trinque: I suppose he could send the executive branch on extended vacation
pete_dushenski: fair enough, there's huge bureaucratic momentum, but i'll definitely have some popcorn at the ready for the 2016 run
trinque: I'd love to see Rand Paul get in
trinque: but more yes, to do with popcorn than anything else
BingoBoingo: Rand Paul walks awfully close to the traditional "neo-conservative' line
mircea_popescu: trinque president can actually fire the entire government. and, logically, any serious president would have to.
trinque: there's a vast bureaucracy he could shut down in a day, yes
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trinque: it'd probably result in a power struggle with the congress trying to mandate certain shitty programs remain operational
mircea_popescu: the thing is, the congress can not tell the president what to do.
mircea_popescu: as powerless as congress proved itself to be trying to reign in a profilgate obama,
mircea_popescu: congress is actually entirely powerless to stop someone who does not wish to spend.
mircea_popescu: there's literally nothing anyone can do to force the president to spend money, a bias that actually comes from the olden days that's never been challenged, ever.
mircea_popescu: i suppose they could impeach him, of course, but that'll be the lulz of all time. "he was impeached for not spending!!1"
mircea_popescu: like "honey, i noticed our credit cards aren't even maxed anymore. i thought you promised to go shopping with the girls ? you know what... fuck this, i want a divorce"
trinque: heh could he declare an emergency due to infiltration by communists?
BingoBoingo: Arrest Congress during recess, then don't spend... win
mircea_popescu: trinque in similar circumstances yeltsin ordered the duma bombarded.
trinque: I've met his dad several times, and he's the only politician I've enjoyed speaking to
trinque: either Paul would not conceivably stand in the way of bitcoin, among other sane perspectives
pete_dushenski: by the time 2016 rolls around, there will be no one nuts enough to 'stand in the way'
trinque: by then the hoover dam might be gone, or the colorado river might be dry
pete_dushenski: "In a prototype, aluminum was used to make the negatively-charged anode while graphite provided material for the positively charged cathode. A prototype aluminum battery recharged in one minute, the scientists said."
funkenstein_: colorado river is already dry when it reaches the grande
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trinque: in the vid Jessie Ventura recounts being summoned to the CIA to be questioned after election to the minnesota governorship
trinque: they know not to let another JFK in to begin with
trinque: Ventura mentions the CIA questioning was about "how did you get elected?"
trinque: the actual government of the USA is a national security secret...
trinque: "I'll leave this up to your discretion... if you ever put a tail on me again without telling me, you're gonna fine your tail floating in the river. Now you take that back to whoever needs to know it."
trinque: god damn Jessie Ventura is a bad motherfucker.
pete_dushenski: lemme guess, childhood wall poster of ghostbusters wagon ?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Maybe, but now I'm just thinking of the pranks they enable
BingoBoingo: Also with all of that storage would make a great RV
BingoBoingo: Fill the thing up with tents, condoms, and lube and you could have a mobile orgy center
pete_dushenski: and hoses for cleaning off after, i could sorta see it if you were into rv'ing
pete_dushenski: though i'll take a plane and high-end hotel room any day, and i'll still come out ahead on costs compared to 'high-end rv'
BingoBoingo: And seriously what isn't to like about a giant toolbox that just happens to have wheels and a motor
pete_dushenski: hard to compete with the price of those old beaters tho
pete_dushenski: um, other than needing the physical space to store it ?
pete_dushenski: if you have a farm, then w/e, but avowed urbanites need not apply
BingoBoingo: What is this storage business. This is the thing you store other things in.
trinque: I'd live in a sufficiently large vehicle
trinque: wouldn't mind getting one of the vw camper vans at some point
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BingoBoingo: Firetruck is immenently useful in post USG world. Break out the hoses on former desk jockeys.
BingoBoingo: Also if you get one with a big tank, maybe some money smuggling freshwater into california.
trinque: punkman: I wouldn't mind seeing a non-hippy/burner version of that
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: jekyll and hyde in america gone horribly wrong
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure, but I'm not just contemplating trucks, but trucks with flashing lights!
trinque: BingoBoingo: put a snow plow on the front too
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Excluded when moving or on a public right of way. when not moving on any private property they can rapidly convert to domicile
BingoBoingo: Still in international waters pretty much any navy/coast guard reserves the right to conduct colonoscopy
BingoBoingo: firetrucks don't have toilets, but they have shovels for digging your own toilets as needed
BingoBoingo: need is an awfully loaded word considering the incursions on the somali coast by nation-state actors
BingoBoingo: I'd be worried about unloading petrol through pump designed for water. Pump might ignite itself
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BingoBoingo: Just have to avoid the tempation to follow the Roman firefighting tradition
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 23:43:05; asciilifeform: a modern 'jfk' might not be shot, but petraeused or childpronned instead
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't stick on anyone else, like p, except they keep confessing like the pastiass dickless shitheads they are.
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 23:44:14; asciilifeform: and before mircea_popescu observes that 'no one has the balls' - if the 'balls-enabled' jfk appeared, a 'counter-jfk' would materialize out of thin aether
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 23:57:31; pete_dushenski: though i'll take a plane and high-end hotel room any day, and i'll still come out ahead on costs compared to 'high-end rv'
mats: i'm watching "Blackhat" atm, p funny so far
mats: .cn sysop uses yubikey at his terminal, "he's using gpg encryption... it'll take me at least a month to crack it... it must be at least a 512 bit key"
mats: er, these are distinct things, but anyway.
danielpbarron: the kmikeym thing is "the first publically traded person"
danielpbarron: Of course it's not a real share like you might buy on the NYSE or NASDAQ. There is no company behind KmikeyM and so the "ownership" you hold is actually a just a metaphor for trust. We have built a fully-functional market simulation and we borrow a lot of language and concepts from the business world in order to make the process easy to understand.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... << not to mention you wouldn't be stuck with the impotent sort of potheads that crowd a "orgy rv" to the point of total cockblockage. << But... Firetruck. They put the lotion on the skin, or they get the hose again
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mats: i was told michael mann is known for making relatively accurate movies
mats: oh wow these chinese shooters don't know how to clear rooms
mats: civilized way is with four dudes and a perimeter.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i thought the civilized way was with frag << With flash and bang unless you know walls actually protect yourself
mats: those fatal funnels are a bear.
TomServo: mircea_popescu: ever seen Sneakers?
TomServo: Best 'hacking' movie I can think of.. maybe check it out.
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mircea_popescu: magical box that breaks secrets, this isn't a film about hacking, this is scherezade in a "modern" color scheme.
mircea_popescu: mats you rly should add sources to all that, impossibru to follow in snippets like that.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` no fucking way. you actually recognized a... WINDOW AND PLUG assembly ?
mats: sources? the url is appended to the end
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mats: the ones that don't, i found on westlaw but not the crawlable internets
mircea_popescu: ps. nubbins` : Your an idiot, and that is not the argument i am having.
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> i never saw a good "hacking" film. << for prime cheese: WarGames, 83
nubbins`: i'm starting to think that it is i who is wc
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: mats has been on this for a while. I almost contributed then... qntra. Dude's been digging like mad.
mircea_popescu: 0 In U.S. v. Scarfo (Criminal Action No. 00404 (NHP)), Politan denied << that one has nothing for instance.
mircea_popescu: 0 In U.S. v. Friedman (No. 95CR192 (S3)(ARR), < etc. but they do have the indexes so that's pretty good
mats: no data available on the specific action, usually
mats: usually data available for the relevant case
assbot: You have not rated mats.
nubbins`: damn, no donations to payout address for task 1.
nubbins`: why'd i spend all that time looking up judge names anyway ;/
mircea_popescu: people had a way to donate specifically, if they wanted, but the bulk is global.
mats: i'm fairly convinced this project has gone as far as it can go without professional input
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.mats.1:060bf7cf7cce64b6ee03db87caa7bb232b33ee77d9fe4a7c4e07fcbfff58b46d
mircea_popescu: well... "the people have rights", right ? and everyone's the same, right ? at which point we can spend forever talking over the internet with clearly disturbed ignorant idiot.
BingoBoingo: mats single handedly took on the legal equivalent of pogo linux and won
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mats: the legal database access was free due to my use of a university's subscription and something in the neighborhood of 400 hours
mircea_popescu: this has to be a meme. mats pic and the caption "i don't always go on research binges on the internet. but when i do, we're talking 400 hours bish!"
punkman: nubbins`: lol, how many accounts does that guy have on the forum
mircea_popescu: i did it in my digital print dirivitive. also i added some ants, because it kinda looks like a spider web which makes sense.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Alt flameless flamethrower, various ergot products and DMSO
punkman: ants love playing in spider webs
mircea_popescu: "i have 0 cookies and am so locked down that i have to log in every time a page changes"
nubbins`: in the meantime, i realized that another one of his old customers is also into casascius coins, as he bid on my auction
nubbins`: so it's uh, not just blazed that paid the guy $$$$ for wood :o
mircea_popescu: more like "here's something, say you paid me a lot for it, it'll look good on both of us"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Can store seperatley though, especially in complex apparatus with multiple pumps and tanks
mircea_popescu: "I'm calling you out on this one, answer or lose whatever credibility you had because there is 1 MILLION percent no way you have a single shred of proof that i am anyone or anything especially some guy in vietnam who sells wooden shit and if you ain't going to back up your BS i will rally every single body that you pulled your fake "probable alt of _____________" and lead a campaign of ensuring you never have the credi
mircea_popescu: badbear being i suppose one of the very few people who managed to wade through the tardsforum and more or less retain some sort of credibility.
nubbins`: bitcoinsociety@yahoo.com was the email used to register the weird cats website, as well as a bunch of random asic mining-related domains
punkman: "I have decided to use half my bitcoin ( about 3,300 coins ) to form a self funded organization with the sole purpose of helping to spread information about bitcoin to the world through mass media, local "troops" or small groups, a website, blog, billboards, magazine ad's, TV. and whatever else 3,300 bitcoins will afford me."
punkman: "Guerilla marketing is probably the most effective means, vinyl stickers at urinals on mirrors under drive thru windows under the drive thru speaker bumper stickers and the great thing about bitcoin is the stickers could actually have a qr code that links you to some free satoshis so people that never considered buying bitcoin just have to pull out there phone"
punkman: 2011 or 1981, I mean stickers?!
mircea_popescu: when all the world is young lad, and every scribble a business plan...
punkman: "Nitrogen i totally agree with you on the gorilla marketing idea, I have had lots of ideas on how to move forward, but lost myself in aggravation for 2 days not being able to name it."
nubbins`: i give up, it's socks all the way down
nubbins`: guy makes socks to call out his other socks for being socks
mircea_popescu: the wonders of a living wage, and generaly welfare etatism.
punkman: grueling day job and time to make 250 forum accounts?
nubbins`: grueling day job walking the aisles, looking for shoplifters
nubbins`: actually no i'd say he's a full time scammer
nubbins`: the wood coins, the digital prints, the cats for sale, the bullets...
nubbins`: he gets enough dribbles from actual suckers to make it worth doing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform guy's not doing anything sueful. he's too broadly illiterate to ever be able to get a job, and his attitude precludes the sort of job you're thinking about.
mircea_popescu: his manager would basically make him crawl six hours a day.
nubbins`: prob on social assistance, prob supplementing it with scams.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` not even. just, full time internet imbecile. like a "wikipedia editor" or something.
mircea_popescu: and i bet you he does not. he gets enough dribbles in the sense of, attention, to keep whatever unfortunate woman paying the bills.
nubbins`: sysadmin who smokes and owns a lathe?
decimation: Todd had received assistance paying his utility bills in the past, but did not apply for help this year, said Tom VanLandingham, who directs the Office of Home Energy Programs in Somerset County. Families can apply once a year, and assistance is based on household income and energy use, among other factors. "We're all kind of baffled as to why he did not apply this year ... that's the million-dollar question," VanLandingham said
decimation: so in the us, you can work to pay usg tax, or work to beg from usg
nubbins`: ^ i suppose those qualify as sysadmin hands
decimation: "Court records identified the boys as Cameron and ZhiHeem, and the girls as Tyjuziana, Tykeria, Tynijuzia, TyNiah and Tybreyia. "
decimation: is the ring finger shorter than the index?
mircea_popescu: actually, i'l; go on a limb and say that is THE woman.
mircea_popescu: guy is "managing" her, they make up "a team". he's the "marketeer" because he "can bullshit"
mircea_popescu: "Tyjuziana, Tykeria, Tynijuzia, TyNiah and Tybreyia." << ;/
mircea_popescu: who wouldn't want to try out an orgy with these five ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> recall the case of the "forum banker" dude ? << Kludge!!!
decimation: supposedly one study found it correlated with prenatal testosterone
assbot: Human 2D (index) and 4D (ring) finger lengths and ratios: cross-sectional data on linear growth patterns, sexual dimorphism and lateral asymmetry from 4 to 60 years of age ... (
http://bit.ly/1GJjI8W )
decimation: it's amusing to me that this is actually a controversial point
decimation: how hard would it be to recruit a few thousand people to get a hand xray on a calibrated machine
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46850 @ 0.00027894 = 13.0683 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo is alternately left or right handed depending on the task at... hand
decimation: apparently 'medical researchers' have better things to do
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decimation: asciilifeform: reading more about the ubiquiti thing, it's not obvious to me that replacing with freebsd would do anything
decimation: one would have to replace the bootloader, and apparently they are refusing to release their mods to u-boot source code
decimation: asciilifeform: aye, would have to dick around with u-boot and the data sheet
decimation: it's rare that a major distribution line fails like that
decimation: they are supposed to inspect those for exactly this kind of issue
decimation: ^ the power line was probably coming from the nuke plant on the chesapeake bay
BingoBoingo: decimation: Last summer My town suffered a 12+ hour blackout because the largest incoming transmission line melted
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the line falls right out of the transformer, like first 100 feet, it may cut it out
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, turns out luxury not so luxurious after all ?
decimation: re: earlier discussion about power generation
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the 'one wire,' even if true, can only be the 'straw that broke camel's back' << It was August during peak consumption. Amren stopped delivering anything through the town's 5 MW backup line so the 30 MW transmission line failed at 38.5 MW and started a small swiftly contained brush fire. (/me thinks he got the units right)
decimation: actually I think the end result is going to be a mass migration away from centralized power to solar
decimation: solar has dropped to $3 per watt installed
decimation: in certain areas of the us, you could buy enough solar panels to power yourself indefinitely for the price of a car
mircea_popescu: "However, there were also multiple reports about an explosion or fire, including a reported explosion at a southern Maryland power plant. "
mircea_popescu: odds are this was a successful terrorist hit, actually.
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, I'm including overage
BingoBoingo: <decimation> actually I think the end result is going to be a mass migration away from centralized power to solar << local hillbill town is about to add solar farm on abandoned manufactering ground to supplement diesel, on coop's dime
decimation: obviously one needs batteries, and that's the rub right nwo
mircea_popescu: "Pepco cited a "dip in voltage" as the cause of the outage in its release." derp. the cause of the outage was caused by the cause of the causative agent.
decimation: right, what that means is "Pepco said some stuff, hoping folks would quit asking"
decimation: generally the strategy for utilities is to smile and nod, and wait until next week when nobody gives a shit
mircea_popescu: "A Charles County, Maryland official confirmed to Utility Dive that an explosion occurred at a substation. However, CBS reported that their sources tell them there was no explosion at all, while the Associated Press reported that the explosion occurred at a power plant."
mircea_popescu: three people three stories and fractured exactly on the lines of, local authority | propaganda mouthpiece | international agency
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform right, it's only terrorism when mentally retarded derps do nonsensical shit.
mircea_popescu: when lifelines are taken out by unidentified parties with access to a lot of resources, it's... uh.
decimation: it's complicating, our brain trust is taking care of it