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vex: I guess it does. I figured I just don't have milspec hearing
vex: what about drone dettecting earrings?
vex: like, you've still got to move your head around, but it's a kickstarter
vex: i'm being facetious, inspired by phf's tales of adventure
vex: anyone seen BingoBoingo? I get it if he's allergic to the etoh group; bloke's likely kneedeep in bureaucracy
vex: dude's playing on a completely different chessboard to me
vex: this ain't just fainmail
vex: maybe he's just smoking copious amounts on punto rujo
vex: peak bb would be an asset to any b2b arrangement
vex: he puts himself into things fully. not many cunts do that
vex: Here's to hoping it wasn't sadness
vex: maybe he got drunk and left some voicemails. banged up
vex: perhaps he's in mp's guest house in bermuda, smoking fire
vex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbhJ9c-pFoI you int bin in the swamp yet
vex: for the halfwits: magic fountain is vomiting your brain out
vex: like a pussycat wot ate all the grass
vex: i'm good
vex: he's got the mp eyes
vex: hey kid
crtdaydreams: drowned yet?
vex: i told you cunt, i'm up a hill
crtdaydreams: didja? missed the memo.
vex: ipswitch looks kinda wet
vex: rellos okay?
crtdaydreams: yeah, creeks just goin up and down
crtdaydreams: they're up on a hill anyway
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-13 02:52:49 vex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6U3Wq-3jy0 yaunderwater crtdaydreams?
crtdaydreams: aw he's from tazzie
crtdaydreams: turns out if you use a hardened kernel, module signing is enabled as a default
vex: meathwile. in sydney
vex: youtube.com/watch?v=bMdeg-WKt1U 6 litre gtr
vex: punkmn. have you eva seen a texta like that?
vex: ww3 about a snitzel
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-12 23:48:07 vex: in a treed environment, best surveillance is the sounds the critters make
shinohai: I have found the best home defense drone: http://btc.info.gf/uploads/homedefense.png
asciilifeform: 'И тревожно защёлкает птица, Если смерть, если смерть на пути партизан.'(tm)(r)
asciilifeform: shinohai: lol
shinohai: Bonus: it can clean up the sidewalk afterwards!
asciilifeform recalls south african autos w/ flamethrower pedal
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $30123.24
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-12#1102186 << betcha one could bake a signal eater which distinguishes 'authorized' walkers ( by weight, gait ) from enemy
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-12 12:10:56 signpost: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11744 << has single units. I'll order some.
asciilifeform: possib. even incl. vehicles
asciilifeform: signpost: typical vendor of these. seems to provide nuffin beyond 'man or vehicle' output.
mats: fun
mats: could just decode tpms data for vehicles
signpost: asciilifeform: I'll have mine whitelist the chaotic walk of the Fremen.
signpost read a poast somewhere recently using iirc OpenCV in a game camera.
signpost: mats: would be interesting to collect as many "free" identifiers as possible, yeah.
signpost: curious about this in the context of p2p security mesh. could yield proof that the same car tried to hit multiple homes.
signpost: camera in the right position can surely catch plates.
asciilifeform would expect any half-serious thief to use fake (or curtained) plate
signpost: last derps my neighbor caught on camera trying to boost cars were pretty sloppy.
signpost: maybe we'll evolve more respectable thieves.
mats: cat theft is back in style
asciilifeform: cat theft ?
asciilifeform: ( for the skins ?? )
mats: catalytic converters
mats: hehe
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's was stolen recently
asciilifeform: apparently platinum up ~2x
mats: local pd suggests with a serious face that people attend local engraving events or install a cage
asciilifeform: engraving?
asciilifeform assumed they're melted down in mexico
signpost: yeah, see portland, OR for a preview of total law enforcement capitulation.
mats: engraving a VIN on it
mats: lmao
asciilifeform: mats: that'd only give pause to an official reseller, neh
signpost: but you get to feel like you took every reasonable precaution!
mats: stupids are even spending budget to pay a local shop to give away first hundred engravings for free
asciilifeform: if the vendors actually gave a damn (and in the correct direction, lol) they could mix e.g. sr-90 in with the platinum. harmless to driver, fry thief who collects over9000, and erryone in the city could easily find where stashed loot
mats: my neighbor had his motorbike stolen from his driveway recently
mats: i wonder it was done
mats: how* i’d love to ride around for a few hours and return a bike with a full tank
asciilifeform: mats: how? 4 strong d00dz and pickup truck, prolly
mats: no, the thief rode away with it on camera
mats: no prizes for guessing his skin color
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-12 17:27:44 asciilifeform: see also well-known american example from vietnam war era.
mats: https://www.wired.com/story/terra-luna-collapse epic lehman brothers level failure
asciilifeform: sic semper shitcoinism
shinohai: So many an heros over Luna
asciilifeform: shinohai: link?
signpost: "crypto speed-running last 200yrs of finance"
mats: hopefully that’s the end of algorithmic stablecoins
signpost glad he was dirt poor several times in life. BTC goes to zero, whatever.
asciilifeform: 'only the dead have seen the end of war^H^H^Hshitcoins'
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $29947.37
signpost: sun still shines. wouldn't be the first time lived out of car, rolled joints on the beach.
asciilifeform: not 0 yet, lol
signpost: sure, and I'm only kidding. not 100% exposed to the thing.
asciilifeform disappointed, not yet The Great Cleansing
verisimilitude: I hate assholes who cry impotently about ``amplification attacks''.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: ponzi imploding is an 'attack' nao ?
asciilifeform: ( there's lulzprecedent, e.g. mavrodi blamed ru gov for 'destroying mmm' by prosecuting him )
verisimilitude: No, I speak of UDP protocols and the like.
verisimilitude: I will create protocols that amplify traffic, and I will ignore these fools.
mats: cool, I guess
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-11 16:01:55 asciilifeform: ^ asciilifeform's point, can call an altcoin 'cryptodollar' or even 'cryptogold' or 'cryptouranium' but this does not somehow guarantee that, e.g., there'll be a finite supply of it, that you can transact how you want, or , most importantly, that you will be able to redeem yours for dollar/gold/uranium when you want to
mats: there’s not anything inherently wrong with having a peg
asciilifeform: promisetronic.
mats: fixed rate regimes have historically had a lot of trouble
asciilifeform: scammer is promising a thing physically impossible to deliver
mats: hkma has had a currency board which hasn’t failed in nearly forty years of operation
asciilifeform watched 'superpower' currency die with own eyes, watching it again nao, lulz over 'n years without fail' arguments
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-05-05 19:39:14 asciilifeform: thimbronion: i watched ruble die as a boy. suddenly had whole sack full of'em, felt 'rich'. until a little later, when noticed it wouldn't buy even candy bar
asciilifeform: all reichs are '1000 yr' until not.
signpost: afaik can only work as small-scale hawala, like deedbot.
signpost: arguably requires religious zealotry too, lol
mats: mostly because they follow the rules of operating a currency board and have 100% us dollar reserves for issued hkd
signpost cared more how allah saw deedbot than benefit of leaving with the bag.
mats: and in feb reported having in forex reserves 6 times the circulating currency
mats: ar had a currency board in the 90s but they didn’t follow the rules
asciilifeform: mats: curious, when loaf of bread is 10k usd, will say 'hkd not failed, still has 6x reserve' ? (it prolly still will, why wouldn't it)
mats: yes, if the peg doesn’t break
asciilifeform: 'lifetime warranty' lol
mats: like talking to a loaf of bread
asciilifeform not imagines he could personally cure anyone, incl. mats, of financialism. 'do not look into laser with remaining good eye' traditional lab poster is funny, until you meet folx who looked with remaining good eye. 'medicine is powerless'
mats: hkd survived the 97 asian financial crisis unlike many others because they have more than 100% reserve backing for issued hkd
signpost: by way of the fact that these other currency systems require import of a sovereign.
asciilifeform: there's a fundamental philosophical q built in -- what's a promise worth ? ( in particular, a promise from professional liar ? )
signpost: can peg, so long as the system ruling hong kong decrees that peg, and has sufficient clout to back the decree.
asciilifeform: a mtgoxcoin, fwiw, was '100% pegged' to btc reserve which also loudly declared '100%', until wasn't
mats: i get it
mats: but going without credit, which is the first money, is like going around without electricity
signpost not even giving deedbot as "see, it can be done". nobody applied a car battery to my balls to test.
mats: i respect and value your trauma asciilifeform
asciilifeform: early electricians also many times bzzpppft before learned how to determine necessary insulator from $voltage
mats: the kids tell me all traumas are equal
asciilifeform: (and discovered reasonably useful insulators)
verisimilitude: So, on one hand, this channel has mats ``if the peg doesn’t break'' and, on the other, this channel has me ``money is evil''.
signpost: verisimilitude: how about that diversity eh?
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: electricity aint evil. it simply dun care whether to conduct via the 2nd wire or via yer arse to ground
verisimilitude: Electricity isn't a fiction.
dulapbot: (trilema) 2018-07-05 asciilifeform: in particular true for radio work, where the 'lumped' (see maxwell thread) approximation taught in uni, is actually a mere toy approximation of physical reality
verisimilitude: I don't know this advanced science, so it has no effect on me. Electricity exists regardless of the model; all money can be is the model.
asciilifeform watched folx drop jaw when realized in jr physics that electrons hardly 'move' at all in the sense given in primary school
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: 'what you don't know won't simply hurt you, it will eat you for lunch'(tm)(r)(us air force)
signpost: verisimilitude: bwahaha, the idea that what you do not know has no effect on you is the most succinct statement of what you ought to remedy as can be made.
verisimilitude: Part of that was for effect, but the gist is true. Electricity isn't a fiction just because somewhere some scientists haven't modelled it exactly.
signpost: (somebody make fun of how rambling my charge of this was, or I'll do it)
verisimilitude: What the fuck does it matter to me?
verisimilitude: I use electricity; I clearly needn't understand it to do so.
verisimilitude: Back to the topic, there's nothing to understand about money. It's all fabrication.
mats: ok
verisimilitude: ``Actually, according to this economic rule I made up, I get to fuck you in the mouth now.''
signpost: "the luminiferous aether exists; why the fuck should I understand how it works"
verisimilitude: Hey, signpost, wasn't it observation and not modelling what caused the theory of the ether to go out of style?
verisimilitude: Do a lot of scientists observe anything nowadays, as opposed to only modelling?
signpost: do you understand what's meant by "the map is not the territory"?
verisimilitude: I'm no expert, but isn't this an issue with modern science?
signpost: ok then.
verisimilitude: The map is not the territory, and a concerning amount of them promise buried treasure somewhere.
signpost: maybe that's the useful distinction then, the yield of utility of the fiction.
verisimilitude: Yes, obviously.
signpost off to benefit from having deluded a local taco shop by updating a database at their payment processor.
phf: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-13#1102288 << my version of this joke http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-12#1102200 might've had too many degrees of indirection to be funny
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-13 13:11:27 signpost: asciilifeform: I'll have mine whitelist the chaotic walk of the Fremen.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-12 19:59:58 phf: or by christopher walken
phf: this one weird trick zoomers hate
mats: i have no context for who walken is
mats: I guess a period liam neeson
phf: mats: he's an american actor, popular in the 80s and 90s, who started his career as a broadway dancer, here's him performing a routine in one of his earliest movies, pennies from heaven https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fElXbJjNJQI
crtdaydreams: good book on this is matter and interactions
phf: later in his career he didn't do much dancing and by early 2000s he was already pretty old, his then contemporary fans weren't too familiar with his broadway background. he randomly appeared in a music clip for fat boy slim's "weapon of choice", where he yet again performed a dance routine, and a juxtaposition of a familiar actor doing something seemingly out of character, and fat boy slim's catchy tune ensured that the track and the
phf: clip stayed in heavy rotation, and to some extent contributed to defining a sound of a whole period
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-13 15:20:23 asciilifeform: aactually...
shinohai: Also mats you gotta see the watch monologue from Pulp Fiction.
phf: well, fat boy slim samples 1980s dune, specifically the phrase "if you walk without rhythm, you want attract the worm" over and over again
crtdaydreams: phf: have you seen the 2022 installment?
phf: which brought a classic movie to an attention of a newer generation, and somewhat randomly associated christopher walken's name with dune's fremen
phf: TRY GETTING A RESERVATION AT DORSIA NOW
phf: oh right the clip in question https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ7z57qrZU8
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-05-13 19:09:38 shinohai: Also mats you gotta see the watch monologue from Pulp Fiction.
phf: crtdaydreams: no, i probably won't, i might skip-watch it one of these days, but i'm one of those people who doesn't like ugh novel tendencies in actor selection
crtdaydreams: phf: yeah I getcha. particularly with this one the translation isn't very effective
crtdaydreams: i got a few gripes, but I won't spoil it for anyone
phf: also villeneuve is a hack
phf: his sicario was decent, but unimaginative straight to netflix kind of production, and then it only went downhil from there. i e.g. managed to last through about 15 minutes of blade runner 2049
phf: oh man i just learned that he's french canadian, yeah, i'm now so mad, i can't even continue this conversation.
signpost: haha, had no idea re: walken in that music vid, but that's funny.
signpost: has anyone mentioned yet that he's playing emperor shaddam in the second installment of remake?
signpost: remake was forgettable, and they definitely did things like "Liet Keynes is now a Woman of Color, yey"
signpost: the culture hasn't anything to say, and dares to "fix" things that did.
phf: considering that 1984 liet-kynes is max von sydow…
phf: or his fremen daughter chani is sean "do you like our owl?" young
phf: the new dune better come with a series of free blowjobs
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