vex: signpost, maybe worth stashing a cheap old harley out at the ranch. plumb her up to drink jack daniels for when the dino juice runs out
signpost: vex: was considering a bike actually
signpost: as a why the fuck not item
vex: plenty of parts
signpost done all that can practically be done to get ready for the churn.
signpost: shifting attention to fun going forward.
vex: there you go, also fun
signpost: yeah, not like I'm pivoting to subsistance farming next.
signpost afk though, gnite vex
vex: night mate. don't start robbing liqour stores just yet
signpost: naw, life's good.
vex: sup daydreams
vex: why don't you just rent a shitty box for your blog?
crtdaydreams: vex: because erm. because.
crtdaydreams: idk effort
vex: you know it's not 1998 anymore?
crtdaydreams: I guess I could and migrate to like mp-wp from just place http
crtdaydreams: s/place/plain
crtdaydreams: uh. yeah. it's 1984, duh
crtdaydreams: big question; how the fuck do you end up doing what you want to do and working on projects like pest and trb et cetera, like where the hell do you find the money and time?
vex: me? i don't work on any of that
crtdaydreams: yeye, open question for anyone in #a.
crtdaydreams: vex: any reccomendations though for a VPS then?
vex: nope. they're a dime a dozen
vex: if you wanna stand up some html 1.0 do that. just don't tell the seppos how much u make driving tractors
vex: they'll come over and start breaking stuff
verisimilitude: I do whatever I want, crtdaydreams.
verisimilitude: I waste most of my time, but not all.
crtdaydreams: vex: shhh
crtdaydreams: verisimilitude: where get food and water and shelter?
crtdaydreams: you have like some magical fountain of fiatola?
vex: I keep tellin' you, I just grow sorghum
verisimilitude: That's private.
vex: So wwhere are the hookers at?
crtdaydreams: sorghum gone shit this year, all the rain fucked it
crtdaydreams: got some sor1 but rest is now sor2
vex: you ru/n your own concern cdd?
crtdaydreams: no
crtdaydreams: i just work on a farm
crtdaydreams: would like to tho
vex: you know a little bit of bush poetry it seems
vex: don't get much sleep when it's all on you
crtdaydreams: fucken oath, tues. 8am-8pm
crtdaydreams: moisture got up round then
vex: no fuck-ups?
crtdaydreams: no ffuck ups
vex: if you're a good operator, get a loan for a machine and go contracting
vex: boss prolly owns you tho right?
vex: chuck in a couple extra hours for free erry day. when you can afford it.you'll be the guy
crtdaydreams: wouldn't wanna touch loans from bank rn
vex: no logbooks on a header
vex: tell the boss you wanna buy acres. he'll put you to work
crtdaydreams: I don't do a lot of machine operating. I'm more of a fabricator.
crtdaydreams: I can do all the machine operating stuff but the demand is in the workshop.
crtdaydreams doesn't want to be a workshop monkey for the rest of life, would like to venture into more intellectually stimulating activities
vex: did you see scomo welding?
crtdaydreams: NO I WANT TO NOW WHAT LMAO
vex: shit mate
crtdaydreams: i gotta see this heh
vex: did you see it yet?
crtdaydreams: fucking hilarious
crtdaydreams: "I've done this before"
vex: my eyes! the goggles do nothing!
crtdaydreams: he's literally that one kid that stared at the sun when the teacher told him not to
crtdaydreams: bahahahah
crtdaydreams: his face though
vex: i think he had a couple of days off
crtdaydreams: from weld flash?
vex: does he even need to see?
crtdaydreams: roo in headlights
vex: boop
vex: collect nay meat there with 30 tonne on? I guess you can't stop
crtdaydreams: heh
crtdaydreams: they bottomed out the chaser the other day
vex: get some rtoos eh?
vex: ie roos
vex: No, I've misread the convo
vex: ever minced a hopper?
vex: i don't think they sleep that soundly
vex: round back. whoops
vex: spin up a blog mate. get it done
crtdaydreams: vex: haven't minced a hopper, did have to replace some fucked wheels on one the other day though
whaack: crtdaydreams: related to getting your blog online https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG9XBIQL3qA&t=4436s
PeterL: thimbronion: apparently you can't give the knobs a non-integer?
PeterL: thimbronion: when I tried to restart, I got this error , I don't know if it is related?
PeterL: I'm gonna try loading an older version of the DB, maybe will fix it?
thimbronion: Hey peterl it looks like for some reason in your db sqlite isn't storing fractions of a second
thimbronion: One fix soule be to wrap that line in a try catch and try parse it without the .%f if the first method fails
thimbronion: Oh interesting, my blatta has crashed with the same error.
PeterL: is there a reason it would crash with version 9979 and not with 9980?
thimbronion: Yes in 9979 there are some changes to how dates are stored in the db
PeterL: OK, I will see if I can fugure that one out
thimbronion: Alternatively maybe there's a way to make that part of the regex optional
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $39125.7
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 15 nodes...
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.092s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=726726 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.111s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=726726
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.142s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=726726
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=726542
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.204s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=726726
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=726726 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.255s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=726726
watchglass: 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.381s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=726726
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.660s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=726726 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 75.106.222.93:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 103.6.212.28:8333 : Alive: (0.546s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=186247 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.567s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=726726
watchglass: 94.176.238.102:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-10#1083710 << to whom is this q addressed ? (e.g. asciilifeform hasn't particularly much time, or, after expenses, dough, for that matter; on most wks worx commercially 7d/wk... )
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-10 03:10:04 crtdaydreams: big question; how the fuck do you end up doing what you want to do and working on projects like pest and trb et cetera, like where the hell do you find the money and time?
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-10#1083721 << a coupla folx admit to running off coin hodls; 1 fella had a shop and sold it; coupla people hinted at being pensioners of some kind
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-10 03:26:40 crtdaydreams: you have like some magical fountain of fiatola?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-22 13:46:05 signpost: had the great luck to sell a company during hyperinflation, not that I'm bitching about it.
asciilifeform: nobody w/ a 'magical fountain' tho, lol
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-10 01:48:35 signpost: vex: was considering a bike actually
dulapbot: (trilema) 2019-01-30 asciilifeform: in my mind zundapp is ~the~ 'definitive' motorbike
whaack: crtdaydreams: if you get your algo skills sharp via Hacking The Coding Interview / hackerrank etc. and get good social skills and work events like hackathons etc. at a major city/university town, then you can probably land a 100k-200k job, live cheap save in btc for 2 years
asciilifeform: software sucks so direly that there's not any kinda shortage of work for programmers, have nfi how anyone develops the notion that there is
dulapbot: (agriculturalsupremacy) 2020-02-27 asciilifeform: black holes that can absorb ~infinite effort and still suck -- sell. 'job-creating technology'(tm)(r).
asciilifeform: whaack: seems like crt was looking for 'magick fountain of dough' tho, rather than a salt mine job. much taller order.
whaack: right, 20x amplification is still 0 if the initial work is 0
PeterL: crtdaydreams: how can you not have time, are you working 24/7 or something? Tell us about yourself a bit and we might be able to help?
billymg: http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-03-10#1083743 << crtdaydreams: make and sell small arms / drones
bitbot: Logged on 2022-03-10 09:00:15 crtdaydreams: I don't do a lot of machine operating. I'm more of a fabricator.
billymg: that'd be useful
PeterL: now seems like a good time to get into making some 7.62x39 ammo, you could sell to both russia and ukraine?
billymg: just logged into github, was very relieved to see a notification stating that they "stand with ukraine and the international community"
PeterL: what does that even mean, are they not letting people with russian ip's download anything or log in?
asciilifeform: PeterL: atm you'll need own uboat to deliver so much as a box of cookies to/from ru, not even speaking of 762
shinohai: billymg: I see your shithub and raise you duckduckgo https://twitter.com/yegg/status/1501716484761997318
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-04 15:41:33 asciilifeform: worth noting, there's ftr 4 basic levels of 'great firewall' :
billymg: shinohai: i will enjoy the seething when the unprecedented inevitably happens
bitbot: Logged on 2022-02-26 23:31:04 signpost: verisimilitude: you know, "unprecedented" may be the most american of the adjectives.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-10#1083817 << over8999 of over9000 times historically somebody says 'i've no time' turns out reddit/tv eats his entire typical day
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-10 12:32:31 PeterL: crtdaydreams: how can you not have time, are you working 24/7 or something? Tell us about yourself a bit and we might be able to help?
verisimilitude: It's fine to let nonsense eat time, just not all of it.
asciilifeform: sorta like theoretically 'fine to' take heroin 'some of the time' lol
verisimilitude: I've had some of my best ideas while wasting time.
asciilifeform: imho to think you know what are your 'best ideas' is already a state of sin, but anyway
verisimilitude: I write more carefully than that.
asciilifeform: orthogonally, some 'wastes' of time are decerebrating, others -- not
verisimilitude: I'm trying to live each day as if it were my last, but that's difficult when I've plenty of unfinished work that requires far more than a day to finish.
verisimilitude: Sure; I don't waste time with TV or Reddit, but in other ways.
shinohai: For instance, you could try all the sex positions in the Kama Sutra instead.
verisimilitude: I enjoy using the example of not having wasted decades of my life working on the Linux kernel.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, cement testbed at 600+k.
whaack: !w peers 103.6.212.28
watchglass: 103.6.212.28:8333 : reported peers: 51.38.41.205 65.21.135.149 71.82.69.245 73.214.155.8 74.64.37.97 76.184.249.78 83.99.247.25 84.28.57.90 85.214.185.51 94.209.184.8
watchglass: 103.6.212.28:8333 : reported peers: 108.28.120.178 162.202.32.106 173.249.0.235 178.84.195.232 212.227.253.11
whaack: !w probe 103.6.212.28
whaack: !c trb-status
crawlerbot: 75.106.222.93 (Could not connect!), h=726162, v=99999, United States - peers: 218 - last probed: 18m ago
crawlerbot: 205.134.172.4 (Alive), h=726746, v=70001, United States - peers: 78 - last probed: 17m ago
crawlerbot: 205.134.172.26 (Alive), h=726729, v=99999, United States - peers: 65 - last probed: 17m ago
crawlerbot: 208.94.240.42 (Alive), h=726746, v=99999, United States - peers: 61 - last probed: 17m ago
crawlerbot: 54.38.94.63 (Alive), h=726746, v=88888, France - peers: 56 - last probed: 18m ago
crawlerbot: 103.36.92.112 (Alive), h=726746, v=99999, Singapore - peers: 52 - last probed: 17m ago
watchglass: 103.6.212.28:8333 : Alive: (0.471s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=189995
crawlerbot: 54.39.156.171 (Alive), h=726746, v=99999, Canada - peers: 51 - last probed: 17m ago
crawlerbot: 94.176.238.102 (Busy? (No answer in 15 sec.)), h=726080, v=99999, Lithuania - peers: 35 - last probed: 17m ago
crawlerbot: 205.134.172.27 (Alive), h=726746, v=99999, United States - peers: 31 - last probed: 17m ago
crawlerbot: 85.167.102.77 (Alive), h=480377, v=99999, Norway - peers: 22 - last probed: 15m ago
crawlerbot: 205.134.172.28 (Alive), h=726746, v=99999, United States - peers: 19 - last probed: 18m ago
crawlerbot: 71.191.220.241 (Alive), h=726746, v=99999, United States - peers: 19 - last probed: 18m ago
crawlerbot: 82.79.58.192 (Alive), h=726746, v=99999, Romania - peers: 14 - last probed: 17m ago
whaack: signpost: saw your msg in pestnet, problem is i have not updated my code, will do so in the near future
whaack: atm i'm trying to figure out how to host 2 flask apps on 1 server with apache
whaack: has anyone done this already?
signpost: cool, just wanted to keep mentioning observations.
signpost: whaack: your options would be giving them distinct path prefixes, hostnames, ports, or IP addresses
signpost: or combining them at the flask routing level in python
signpost: (there are others, but those are the ones that'd be straightforward
signpost: path is nice since it doesn't put another dependency on DNSism, but the app needs to be able to handle running at /appname/thing/3/asdf vs /thing/3/asdf
signpost: port's hanky because people expect http responses on 80.
whaack: signpost: i was hopping to have two subdomains, explorer.ztkfg.com and vhopper.ztkfg.com, that route to different flask app's via apache
whaack: I setup 2 VirtualHosts in VirtualHost.conf file, but it seems that WSGIPythonPath decides which app gets run, and i can only set that variable once afaik
signpost: comfortable pasting the config?
signpost: can always erase chunks first
whaack: sent via dm
signpost: iirc pythonpath is the module-wide "where to look for libs" var
whaack: problem with this config is atm vhopper.ztkfg.com also goes to explorer.ztkfg.com
signpost: might neeed to toggle this instead inside the VirtualHost blocks https://modwsgi.readthedocs.io/en/develop/configuration-directives/WSGIPythonHome.html
signpost: hm nope
signpost: been a while since I configured one of these, apparently
whaack: maybe i need to configure which app is run in a .wsgi file
whaack: signpost: think i found my problem...
signpost: cool, sorry I wasn't more help. last time I did this was on nginx.
whaack: signpost: my original VirtualHost.conf was correct. The problem was I ran into a namespace issue, both of my flask applications were named webserver.py
whaack: so the WSGIPythonPath correctly sets the python path to include the folders containing both apps (using the ":"), and vhopper's vhopper.wsgi file was correctly being ran (and distinguished via the two VirtualHost's in apache), however both explorer.wsgi and vhopper.wsgi had the line "from webserver import app as application" , so whichever 'webserver.py' was added first to the python path was
whaack: being used
signpost: ah yeah, that makes sense
signpost: module name was not unique
signpost: cool, glad ya got it worked out