vex: mp REALLY fucked you on the fg naming. miniaturization will deffo need a rebranding
vex: also WOT needs more logic imo
vex: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-07#1056681 << could be mp options expiring. funnily enough, when buffet expires, exactly 0 will happen
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-09-07 11:39:10 asciilifeform: billymg: whoknows, maybe someone bought gigatonne of bananas..
punkman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-08#1056944 << I think this happens all the time just to liquidate "traders"
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-09-08 01:43:19 vex: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-07#1056681 << could be mp options expiring. funnily enough, when buffet expires, exactly 0 will happen
vex: i'm almost entirely sure he was doing more than filling bras with euros on localbitcoin
vex: but who knows
vex: hanbot might take down the two black balls sometime. colregs dayshapes for `not under command'
vex: prolly best to never show em. that be pirates
vex: *thar
cgra: whaack: would you happen to have a handy way to enumerate block hashes, starting from block height 655609, up to the current height? for example, in per-line format: <height> <hex-hash>
cgra: if yes, could you arrange me a list? those could help me better figuring out the quirks in trb sync mechanism -- i could replace log-file's hashes with height numbers and get a better idea of the order things happen in
cgra: asciilifeform: my test node (and only node) is one year behind, so i would need someone else to do it
asciilifeform: cgra: i'ma make it, then, but can't guarantee it'll be done today
asciilifeform: will post link here.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-08#1056944 << lol, maybe mtgox options expiring! maybe MMM bonds expiring!
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-09-08 01:43:19 vex: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-07#1056681 << could be mp options expiring. funnily enough, when buffet expires, exactly 0 will happen
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-11 10:33:42 punkman: " Mavrodi launched another pyramid scheme called MMM-2011, asking investors to buy so-called Mavro currency units. He frankly described it as a pyramid, adding "It is a naked scheme, nothing more ... People interact with each other and give each other money. For no reason!""
cgra: asciilifeform: ok, thanks! unless whaack gets to do it first (assuming his explorer made it easy for him)
asciilifeform: !q seen whaack
dulapbot: whaack last seen here on 2021-08-18 16:59:20: asciilifeform: awesome!
asciilifeform: i suspect he's at sea atm
cgra: ah ok
asciilifeform: but indeed his proggy would be ideal for this kinda thing. iirc he has an sql thing synced w/ a live noad.
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $45778.3
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 17 nodes...
watchglass: 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.081s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=699629
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=699378
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.091s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=699629 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.151s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=699629
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=699629 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=699629
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.229s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=699629
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.234s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=699629
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.278s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=699629 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.245s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=699629
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.336s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=699629
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.660s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=699476
watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-08#1056942 << lol, for whom, exactly, to bake 'miniaturization' ? for vex??
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-09-08 00:05:52 vex: mp REALLY fucked you on the fg naming. miniaturization will deffo need a rebranding
asciilifeform: ( see also, for the thick. )
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-12-16 13:06:17 asciilifeform: cgra: i ought to make clear that i do not atm have any plans to mass-produce any kind of irons (beyond handful of prototypes for own use.) simply because it -- afaik -- cannot be done economically.
asciilifeform: ( and especially. )
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-08-20 19:00:15 asciilifeform: it is also the case that rng as commercial product is a very questionable biz proposition. it takes quite a bit of 'adulthood' to even get to a place where you actually benefit from a 1000 $ rng. for instance, microshit victims dun really win anyffin from using whatever external rng.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in unrelated lulz.
asciilifeform: re 0xFE -- lulzily no one noticed that 4.1 and 4.2 numbering is entirely fucked.
whaack: i'm alive and lurking
whaack: the rsi thing has kept me away from the keyboard ... or at least kept me away from typing intensive activities
asciilifeform: wb whaack !
asciilifeform: whaack: unfortunate re rsi; maybe ask verisimilitude & mats re subj
asciilifeform: iirc they're sufferers
whaack: yeah they've offered some advice
whaack: reading about it online i've run into this cult of people who believe the syndrome is mostly psychosomatic, they all follow the advice of this doctor J. Sarno and believe the condition is a variant of TMS
asciilifeform: tms?
whaack: tension myoneural syndrome, the tl;dr is that the brain is able to deprive nerves of oxygen when under stress
asciilifeform: seems to me like a quack catch-all diagnosis
whaack: that's my initial impression too, and i may be leaning into it out of desperation
asciilifeform: whaack: you have only from kbd or also mouse, pen, etc ?
whaack: my hands are just stiff all day
asciilifeform: even when not touched comp for week+ ?
whaack: they crack a ton when i make a fist
whaack: yeah i haven't noticed much benefit from stopping computer use
whaack: although mechanical keyboards feel wayyyy nicer
asciilifeform: aand the doctors found 0 ?
asciilifeform: ( to asciilifeform sounds like arthritis )
whaack: doctors found 0 but i don't think i have the cream of the crop doctors here
whaack: they didn't do a blood test
whaack: and i found out my grandmother had rheumatoid arthritis
whaack prays it is not that
asciilifeform would try to get to civilization somehow, and look for actual doctor
whaack: yeah i may travel back to usaschawitz for this
whaack: i just started taking anti inflammatories, they seem to be helping a lot
whaack: cgra: anyways, yes that is easily doable, i will get you that list in a second
billymg: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-07#1056800 << this method works, was able to get the crawler running. i installed all the python libs i needed by specifying exact versions, e.g. `pip install -Iv psycopg2==2.8.6`, and at least with my small list of required deps (flask, psycopg2, and requests) all were available
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-09-07 14:54:23 billymg: for anyone curious, running `python2 get-pip.py "pip < 21.0"` with this get-pip.py worked. now to see if it'll install the py2 packages i'm looking for...
billymg: caught a bug in my crawler's genesis though, where two of the sql queries use a different index name than the one that gets defined when initializing from bitdash_schema.sql. i'll post a regrind of the genesis soon but if anyone runs into it the fix is to change the two instances of 'ON CONFLICT ON CONSTRAINT unique_host DO UPDATE SET' to 'ON CONFLICT ON CONSTRAINT
billymg: nodes_host_key DO UPDATE SET'
billymg: now i'm trying to get trb working and am running into this constraint
dulapbot: (therealbitcoin) 2020-07-08 jurov: For the record, I should mention that rotor needs glibc <2.28 on build system because it moved some include files which break the bootstraping of m4.
billymg: i read whaack's and jfw's posts on the non-rotor build method. i haven't tried it yet but given all the other "upgrades" my 2021 gentoo probably has i think it might be best to stick with the rotor method. i just need a way to get around the m4 bootstrapping
asciilifeform: billymg: nonrotor build on a non-musl system is a roulette; is wai asciilifeform baked rotor to begin with
billymg: asciilifeform: yes, i think the rotor method makes sense for me
asciilifeform: billymg: btw one only actually needs 1 box where rotor runs; the built bin is 100% portable
asciilifeform: (because static)
asciilifeform: 1 per cpu arch, to be pedantic.
billymg: asciilifeform: yeah, i could build on my old laptop, but i'm trying to be able to build it here as well (since i plan to format and rebuild what's on the laptop after i'm done with this)
asciilifeform: a ok
billymg: there are patches available for m4 to get around the >=glibc 2.28 problem, one was even included in my stock system's m4 ebuild
billymg: so i'm thinking i could patch m4 myself and include it in the deps dir (after base64 encoding and signing)
billymg: does that sound like the right approach?
billymg: as in, patch the file at: http://deedbot.org/deed-427443-9.txt
billymg: or rather, replace what's there with the signed, base64 encoded version of what i patch
asciilifeform: billymg: sounds like right approach ( tho i haven't yet personally run into this barf )
asciilifeform runs into less than his 'fair share' of these because tends to keep things around 4evah. e.g. still using his ~original~ rotor on the box where 1st created it, etc
asciilifeform: ... and my gentoos tend to be bitwise disk copies of one another
billymg: asciilifeform: yeah, this may have been more trouble than it was worth, but i'm already so close now. would've been easier to have just created a separate dulap partition and use that whenever i need to build some binaries
asciilifeform: billymg: well in fact is a++ if you find how to make it go on current gentooisms
billymg: asciilifeform: so far everything but trb's rotor! well, with the help of signpost's pentacle for building vtools.
billymg: i perhaps could've started this build as a musl build and that might've saved a lot of headache with some things
billymg: gentoo still hosts up-to-date musl stage 3 tarballs on their downloads page
whaack: cgra: script is running, taking longer than expected, probably will be done in around 2 hours
gregory4: asciilifeform: what is your view of asymmetric multi-processing? did Linux make the right decision by devoting itself to symmetric?
asciilifeform: wb gregory4
asciilifeform: gregory4: imho whole split comes from a broken paradigm and therefore largely uninteresting.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-01-04 12:15:52 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: vonneumannism is not simply a set of broken mechanisms, but of broken ~thought patterns~. there are certain problems that can't even be reasoned about effectively for so long as operating with concepts where dichotomy b/w 'cpu' and 'memory'.
whaack: cgra: http://ztkfg.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/cgra.txt here you go
whaack: cgra: you can use this script http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=_LIA to get the rest of the blocks
whaack: !e uptime
trbexplorer: whaack: time since my last reconnect : 51d 9h 18m
whaack: asciilifeform: nb!
whaack: cgra: of course replace the numver of the last block with the last block as per the view-height command
whaack: !e view-height
trbexplorer: whaack: my valid commands are: src, uptime, version, help, view-address, view-block, view-merkle-root, view-txn, height, push, view-raw-txn, verify-block, view-raw-block, utxos, balance
whaack: !e height
trbexplorer: 699706
asciilifeform: !q uptime
dulapbot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 85d 0h 23m
asciilifeform: whaack: nifty
asciilifeform will hold off on this then, loox like whaack nailed it already
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-09-08 10:46:05 asciilifeform: cgra: i'ma make it, then, but can't guarantee it'll be done today
asciilifeform: ty whaack !