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(ossasepia) diana_coman: billymg: so inside <code> you mean?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: btw did you read about feedback ? don't recall if I yet pointed you to it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: billymg: hm? seems to work, lol
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: heh, sure; the point is: why do you want to input &lt and the like?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: billymg: what's the ip for that as I think I have only your old pizarro one
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (I know you *can* do it; I just haven't yet met the case where I *have to* do it)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I don't, no; give me an example where you have to.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and yes, code is ~always in a pain in text, I agree.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: I get that but just change that to some other delimiters, no?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: re &lt and the like, the question there is why would you want to write those in your text? (I suppose that's why I never got to see this)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-01#1008471 - this, yes; can you tell me what problem(s) were you solving exactly? it got all muddied trying to follow what you were actually doing/talking about there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ftr the feedbot issue seems to be a flaw in how the bot decides which links are "new"; uncovered via unplanned testing when I increased the size of posts per page to make archives easier to use.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: no problem.
(trilema) diana_coman: iirc he set it some timer because it was getting wedged on too many so now probably that works to... keep it up, lolz
(trilema) diana_coman: well, flooded everyone subscribed to feedbot.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: sorry people for the spew from feedbot.
(trilema) diana_coman: sigh; I dunno I could have avoided this though and still switch just archives to unpaginated.
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu: do you mean some very old one triggered feedbot and then it didn't check, just kept going to the end?
(trilema) diana_coman: can't be, it spewed here relatively recent ones.
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu: but so what, those 1k were still old/seen, no?
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu: ie taking out the content of the posts from rss did it?
(trilema) diana_coman: anyways, my apologies.
(trilema) diana_coman: so myeah, php works like this on the spot with the usual potential side effects, ugh.
(trilema) diana_coman: and I suspect it's that last one that triggered "new" because now different url ie no page-2 ,no?
(trilema) diana_coman: just 1. took out content from archives.php 2. increased limit at per page
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu: no
(trilema) diana_coman: spyked, help!
(trilema) diana_coman: ah, because of no-pages??
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: asciilifeform: fwiw "furniture/sofa" simply stands for "won't adapt despite feedback"; but I'll take trinque's advice and shut up.
(trilema) diana_coman: go me @ him.
(trilema) diana_coman: I know it's optional but so what.
(trilema) diana_coman: per month, why year!!!
(trilema) diana_coman: made it 10k even; if/when I write 10k posts, then yes.
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: hm, it would seem this has a toggle ie from settings; atm I set it to at most 1000 so it should not bother you there but it doesn't quite solve it.
(trilema) diana_coman: ahaha; dunno, it was the original archive.php of that theme there and it actually doesn't look anything like your archive.php from the paste; but at least yes, it was clear enough.
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: me? neah, I know very well what was in them, lolz.
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: and rather surprisingm when I actually took the time to look into the archive.php thing, it was as easy as snip-the-shit
(trilema) diana_coman: eh, along that line I *did* throw away a pile of papers & letters from when I was 16 or shit, lolz.
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: thanks, let me see here.
(trilema) diana_coman: I suppose I could get & import those from there too, for historical reasons, why not.
(trilema) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-01#1949105 - the "missing" there is on the .wordpress thing in the very beginning so yeah not in archives on my site directly.
(trilema) diana_coman: that thing with stale page is weird; it happened to me on trilema.com a few times too (ie had to change machine to get around it)
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: please.
(trilema) diana_coman: because yes, I wanted that but never made the time to dig in the mp-wp
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: how do I convert to title-date? is there a switch somewhere?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: for that matter hm, whaack , u also not in #t ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: meanwhile though I rated you and therefore you are not exactly idling in there; while you don't yet need to say anything, it's still better for you to be there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and all of it coming from the core cause of too much money distributed to idiots; it makes for perverse incentives and the inevitable result of products made for them.
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: ahahaha; I'm generally fine with the questions I ask, lol.
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I always imagine as a consequence the story of Death-With-A-Lawnmower at that image.
(trilema) diana_coman: dunno, here in parks they actually have a guy that specifically *takes care of the grass* ie re-seeds it if needed, aerates the soil, etc.
(trilema) diana_coman: ahaha, but ofc; and the poetry of concrete
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: write it up and publish it since you have it, there's no harm in that and I'll read it, don't worry.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: because here essentially this is the q now that I have to figure out from you, jfw, billymg, lobbes : what *exactly* is the problem you set out to solve and why is it a problem?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: might as well publish it if it's done anyway but as a rule, before implementing a solution give some thought and/or ask re what the perceived problem is
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and worse, they obscure actual comments.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: also, do delete those test-trackbacks, no need to actually keep them in there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack lobbes jfw is this all about putting markup in the text or is there more to it (if yes, what)?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but fast-food is not really about no-complexity at all, quite on the contrary it would seem to me that it's precisely a lot of complexity just of the wrong kind (it's industrial for a reason, after all)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: spyked: heh, yes, the two types of complexity mirroring the two types of simplicity
(trilema) diana_coman: there's always this code-text tension that annoys me because I still read it as broken-sign: code should be text but then each time I try to get it along text, it doesn't play well, ugh.
(trilema) diana_coman: sure, not a problem, his blog anyway.
(trilema) diana_coman: (heh, reading back in jfw quotes re footnotes, yes: he avoided (()) because of lisp-code worries so ended up on the <fn> mess).
(trilema) diana_coman: and up any sort of hills/uneven terrain, yes.
(trilema) diana_coman: eh, ~everything is positively deadly for children really.
(trilema) diana_coman: yes, it's in *that* pile.
(trilema) diana_coman: I still think it does too much, lol.
(trilema) diana_coman: I can see the angle.
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I don't know; why do you trust php?
(trilema) diana_coman: heh, that's precisely the image that came to mind: them fighting and breaking the tool while the grass stood the same way.
(trilema) diana_coman: but honestly, this automated system that is same for *everyone* is something I just can't see; ie each can automate their own system, sure; but beyond that it gets iffy.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: possibly; at the other extreme, the copy/paste/autogen horrors are anything *other* than overengineering, lol.
(trilema) diana_coman: I suspect he's coming from heavy-markup use habit too so probably yes.
(trilema) diana_coman: sure; an abundance of rakes even more so.
(trilema) diana_coman: that is possible but an additional thing there anyway; well, in truth, ~all php hurts from my pov.
(trilema) diana_coman: anyways, when he wakes up I'll see what he has there exactly and will figure it out.
(trilema) diana_coman: ah, in his notes there is that *afterwards*, yes
(trilema) diana_coman: the selected part? no.
(trilema) diana_coman: but I hadn't yet had the time to actually look at it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: why u not in #t ? add it to your autojoin and don't be silly.
(trilema) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-31#1948998 - and moreover, jfw already looked deeper at it, so they'll coordinate and it will be fixed.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: make it out of whatever shit you find, pre-packaged solutions tech or food-wise.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: spyked: + there is that important part "you don't have to do it yourself!!"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and then billymg will pick apart that picking apart so hopefully the end result is fully tested.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: then we'll see for next week; if jfw already has an actual solution implemented, there's no need to duplicate the work, can just as well pick his apart :P
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: well done there; for the moment I'd say get out first what you had for this week anyway
(ossasepia) diana_coman: spyked: fast-food tech seems to me very aptly put, really; think of it: shiny and BIG, cheap and available in 1001 varieties of the same thing, "attractive" if you don't look much/haven't seen much else, shitty content and abismal quality that will screw you up in the end; what's there not to fit, really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: such a nice #o log to wake up to!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: add that to your post on the html linking please; a concrete example would be best, too.
(trilema) diana_coman: there's all sorts of simple and not all of it boring; that there though would be the boring-simple, more like the simple remains of a cut-out than the simple path to the core of an intricacy.
(trilema) diana_coman: it would also be rather boring otherwise.
(trilema) diana_coman: the silence!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and not worth doing as stated there either in my opinion.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: not done, no.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: link please
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: where did you read of a tool exactly?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: treat the sulking state with a big ignore and - if need be - force writing ie just *write continuously* whatever until sulky-you can't stand it anymore and rather than keep at nonsense will back off.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: whichever you prefer there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: all right, no problem there at all
(asciilifeform) diana_coman will go back to her draft.
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: asciilifeform: you jumped.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: o.O I thought you had solved that yesterday whaack , didn't realise it was still dragging on; is it solved now?
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: except don't add words in other peoples' mouths if you want their as opposed to your self-made flame or whatever it might be.
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: the all along is your addition.
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: asciilifeform: there's no secret appendix but there is a certain perspective that I'm not sure you can/ever want to perceive; fwiw and for myself really, I'm drafting precisely my thoughts on this but I don't suspect they'll help you any and I don't have any pill for that.
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: fwiw and as previously stated in #t quite publicly at that, I still find for instance FFA just as before: a gem (or a pearl, perhaps that's the subtle clarification)
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: lolz, no, that's not what he says
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: asciilifeform: thank you for the kind words re my work; I don't yet know what I'll find here.
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: I still don't see the hole you describe.
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: asciilifeform: allow me to point out to you that you can always kick me out as it's your chan.
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: dunno of what hole you are talking so how could I answer that.
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: back to republic without mp, I see.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: no idea and it doesn't really matter either.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: eh, dream on re snap of fingers.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shinohai: lol! I'll add it to the collection then.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: bvt: ahahaha; but I can imagine it, yes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lolz, what would that do for you shinohai, anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the trouble not being that much that they are brought in, but that they are brought in *to steal and pretend*, nothing more.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: spyked: certainly; and I'd gladly burn the *whole lot* of it & them; (now you know just why I didn't want to go and give talks or whatevers there).
(trilema) diana_coman: not at all, I can certainly do with more clarity on the whole thing (hence drafting in the first place)
(trilema) diana_coman stops own draft and goes to read the new article.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and in unexpected milestones: we have 1st spam (bitcoin advizee for ze millenial inveztorz!!) on younghands.club! congrats and all that, if I get any time today I'll write it up already.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: sure, precisely the sort of "dobitoaca dracului" , that much I agree.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: eh, they "learnt" it as in they saw that they can get away with it just fine and therefore did it, what learnt.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so no, it's irrelevant if their boss steals too or whatever; they are still responsible individually, there is no we, what.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: spyked: re toilet paper, probably they do, yes; but there is no way I'll buy into this passing the buck either up or down; it's again the "oh, it's owned by the state aka by nobody and therefore we can all steal, let's see who is the idiot who still does some work so we can *also* laugh at him", yes?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: note also that the one helpful exception you mean somehow could not-be a harpie though surely just as "underpaid and overworked", no?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and in general, this is what they'll always say, of course, of course, "oh, but there was *nothing else* I could do, poor me".
(ossasepia) diana_coman: spyked: nope, there is no such thing as "nowhere to leave" either; loads of land that nobody works because "it's not worth it" so what "nowhere to leave".
(ossasepia) diana_coman: spyked: you know, this "oh, but see it from my point of view, how hard I have it" smacks of ~rezistenta prin cultura ; (and so my blood boils already at 9 am, lolz).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: there is absolutely no excuse there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: re harpies though, no, this "oh, we are overworked and underpaid so we'll steal from students (yes, they did, there was a whole thing with the transport reimbursements) + we'll therefore take it on students because we can" is precisely the sort of bullshit that *is* the very problem in the first place; if they are overworked and underpaid, they should *leave*.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: spyked: if you publish though your recipe re .htaccess tuning, I'll read and apply if it fits the trouble, ofc.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: spyked: the access on younghands.club is more lax because of multiple authors from wherever etc; + the "rape & pillage good for highschool" lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: there, jfw knows dorion, clearly
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-30#1008272 - this was re your blog description, maybe I didn't parse correctly what you were saying there
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but ticos wanted to understand for sure + it does make it easier to know already other languages from the same group ie at least I wasn't usually *that* far from the right word,lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: "practice" was "here's this grammar book" + well, I'm here and these guys have no idea of anything else, so let's see; it was fun ordering a taxi for sure esp with costa rican "addresses" that go along the lines "it's on the street towards X, about 1.5km, past the car washing, 2nd green gate on the left"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: no, because I spoke it poorly for sure, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and what, isn't it about that too?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: more a matter of "not that far from the rest of latin-based languages"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, I did manage around CR with "Spanish" I suppose, but ugh
(ossasepia) diana_coman: romanian as native; english and french from school + later practice obv; italian as it was relatively easy after ro+french anyway; german at basic-middle level (as usual, can read more than speak); Russian about there basic-middle too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: not even that sadly; one of those things "oh, why would I write such a thing, it's obvious and there's no need for it!!" ; to ofc notice later that "if only I HAD WRITTEN IT"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so atm stumped for...translation & differences that I'm even aware of between the schools, ffs.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I did wonder for a second there re dorion-mode, heh; now I realise though that I never actually talked in *English* about music theory, drat.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: MP is also not exactly one for... camouflaging himself usually, lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: heh, I was just typing there!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: another way to look at it would be from music theory if that rocks your boat better but I didn't get the impression it would.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ahahah, among the more obvious, yes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: aha; so re-read + that's precisely it, the first time you missed (one of) the key(s)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: quite; (and he uses usual-triggers quite often too; all of it quite on purpose)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: did you ever re-read a book to realise you had missed on first pass a whole level of meaning, entirely?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-30#1008232 - more like how to approach and decipher it (hence: "key"); there's more than meets the eye directly on trilema articles
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: don't optimise it prematurely, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: not even relationships but self-investment; think of it, for however many years, he grew/built himself up in that specific environment and he paid whatever price that required of him; add to this that he was here with s.dice and then *chose* to leave and that has its own cost too; just for the more obvious parts.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: if it's any help, the reason why I know this in such detail is simply because I spent about 1.5 years writing >=1500 words per day *every day* until I cured my telegraphic-writing-once-per-year.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: esp if you didn't do this before, it might take a few iterations but that's fine
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: it's an outline, list stuff, move it around if you need/want to, figure out the structure that works best for the way you'll tell what happened; the archeology starts literally if you go and dig in the logs (and you'll surely spend more time on it+ get sidetracked etc), not if you as much as think of events or handle them, no.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: any text is effectively a path proposed to take the reader from an initial situation to a final situation; so you need to decide at the very least where you start from, what path (ie steps + context) you follow and where you stop; this is quite generally speaking; what specifically got you stumped here though?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-30#1008213 - goals, troubles, steps taken, interactions, milestones, result.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lol, he had enough of the illiterates he went specifically to preach to, or what? in any case, to get at least more out of that than he intended: nothing anybody ever does is really original anyway, it's an old world really and everything has been recycled already many times already.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: lol! that part with "if he threatens, I don't *have to* listen" is such a contradiction in itself.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-30#1008187 - ftr, the fact that ~all of you ended up learning/growing substantially from this guy for all his faults is *not* really *your* trouble; it's more likely - and as rather clearly indicated by the "first human conversation" - the trouble of the environment you grew up in.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: the html mess was your own addition to this week's load, eh; if it results in V-post failed again this week, so it will be; good on you for saying it *now* though, yes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: at any rate, the specific cracks you notice first are less important than the basic fact that you actually looked and noticed them; which means exactly "not bought into it" from that moment on; hence the above "there's already a reason why they buy it" - at the very least that they don't look but usually there's more.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: was that "first human conversation" for you too?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: + relevant for you especially, this particular case is also a very blunt illustration of technical cannot be apolitical.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: onth, you are at least unencumbered directly by any of this (or previous similar events), for the little silver lining that there is.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: precisely that; and that's exactly what you witness now (sadly, I saw this before).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hence the dropping and the flunking (and the more difficult to get in too)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: re pillars, there is a long history of the bar getting higher
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: the prospects are always what people make of them, as always and everywhere; re timing, one can always go "if only" but it's not helping much
(asciilifeform) diana_coman will go and take a walk anyway.
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: asciilifeform: I'm an adult, thank you.
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: asciilifeform: once again, none of your concern.
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: hello asciilifeform, not like I wasn't here before or anything.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: come to think of the very origin of the word there, it's not even surprising.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: that seems to be the usual way this "planned fortunes" go really, regardless of domain.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (conflates in my head quite a few things at once but that might be more indicative of my head's contents atm than of the made-up word itself)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: uruguarice, lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: I'm rather sure many others could do with similar reminders; esp on such a thing as optimization traps; that being said, it's your chan so entirely your choice, I just had no idea of the actual meaning, hence asked.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: not like you can't change your mind or can't register another chan though.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: I wanted to say re your chan name, maybe something shorter would work better? I never could quite follow your ref there either so maybe I'm just ignorant: why agriculturalsupremacy ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: thimbronion: sounds rather horrible; anyways, as above: you currently have all the time you need to figure out your next step(s).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: thimbronion: what happened there? at any rate: no worries here, there's nothing burning or anything and there was nothing pending/with deadline expected from you.
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: all right.
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: so I gather you are dissapointed there isn't one; fine.
(trilema) diana_coman: I am fine to answer for my own sig on what I signed.
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: no; MY responsibility for MY acts is not YOUR concern; nor your hiding place.
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: that's none of your concern.
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: you did not hypnotize me into anything.
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: no, there is no such thing as aimed at a level; name people if you are aiming at anyone or otherwise don't just throw words about.
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: if you are aiming that at me, then have the decency to say it to my face and with name, will you?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion whaack please add to your blogs the recent comments and recent posts widgets, they are quite useful.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion jfw current tribulations in tmsr might even push your schedule earlier re getting more visible and involved.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack jfw do get in the habit of adding responses given here to the relevant posts on your blogs, for later ref, I'm not going to keep adding those for you.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ofc, let me know if there's any weird/problem there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: I've rated you too, you can check it via pm with deedbot; the wot.deedbot.org might take a while to update; publish by Sunday a review + plan on younghands.club
(trilema) diana_coman: !!v 634A618F72BE1801945FD7253B326DE35C05CCF57B8A52FF24ECC97EA6146033
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-29#1008092 - here also, investment stands for much more than you took it for.
(trilema) diana_coman: cuntoo is currently the genesis + roadmap really but at any rate, trinque's indeed.
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I'm surprisingly calm and collected but I'm weighing all sorts; and yes, I would rather give it a few days.
(trilema) diana_coman: poisoned offerings, if I understand you correctly.
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I suppose there is also the same question applied potentially to the FG and FFA then; but fwiw I digested FFA as well as I could and I still think it is a gem, perhaps a pearl better put: quite the result of successive spinnings/polishings
(trilema) diana_coman sadly recognizes that line+circle from bitter experience (and not even just asciilifeform ).
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: do you want me to look at alternatives there? at the very least to see what/how/any?
(trilema) diana_coman: ie I installed it on different amd + 1 intel, fine.
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: in hardware terms, the recent tests re deploying server showed at least that we are not married to any specific arch so I'd say that part should not be a problem
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: over the past few months I had *loads* of precisely thinking re survival given as the whole client+ graphics+EVERYTHING kept growing as work for me to do rather than ever receding so I can get to developing the actual game on server.
(trilema) diana_coman: well, there IS on one hand the FFA gem that has however come after the initial projection that he'll do consulting for smg and so I'll have what to use rather than write eucrypt with the salvaged-mpi (though he salvaged that at least)
(trilema) diana_coman: at the point with ben_vulpes I admit I couldn't figure out who was really messing up more there, honestly.
(trilema) diana_coman: the debacle with iron specs? as cited in the time-mgm piece I wrote iirc?
(trilema) diana_coman is listening.
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: sure, just not fully clear on what there; but I'm all ears
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-29#1008062 - those were reading keys, not what you took "keys" to mean here (I didn't want to derail the discussion yest but better noted today).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-29#1008128 - might be, except for the fact that there's already a reason why they "buy" it in the first place really.
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: now I am
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: yes, yes and ...yes!

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