asciilifeform: to which fascism had led the nation, with the former Kom-mandant of Auschwitz heading the Commission for the Detention of Nazi Criminals, and SS generals explaining in clear and simple words the importance of liberal values, while the whole cabal was led by the newly enlightened Gauleiter of Eastern Prussia. Tatarsky, of course, hated most of the manifestations of Soviet power, but he still couldn't understand w
asciilifeform: 'The USSR, which they'd begun to renovate and improve at about the time when Tatarsky decided to change his profession, improved so much that it ceased to exist (if a state is capable of entering nirvana, that's what must have happened in this case)...'
asciilifeform: other thing is, even if you don't want for anything the 'milk' (cpu cycles etc) of pwned derp, and simply going for max materiel damage, formatting hdd is not necessarily the max
asciilifeform: ( it's a compendium of shorts. which one was phf thinking of ? )
asciilifeform: then herding, even temporarily -- is +ev
asciilifeform: (i.e., on what do you compute, such that only MOST mutations are lethal, rather than ALL )
asciilifeform: describe a model of computation that is 1) usefully complete -- can carry out actual work 2) is substantially non-brittle - i.e. flipping 20% of the bits results in something that is only, say, 20% away from, but still recognizable as the original performer, rather than liquishit
asciilifeform: because there is not yet any known way to compensate the possibility of deliberate misanswer in the calculation.
asciilifeform: which implies that user keeps the machine plugged in
asciilifeform: it is also subject to key compromise at any time.
asciilifeform: it's the 'insect' solution, gotta mention it for completeness.
asciilifeform: it doesn't provide monetary incentive, any more than today's expense of running a proper node magically transforms into compensation
asciilifeform: why to do this -- originally was simply to preserve british empire. later, to keep the fire burning, so that nothing fit to challenge the reich is born from the ash.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the pharma thing is simply another way of funneling payola, is all
asciilifeform: complete with wasp
asciilifeform: re space wasps << mircea_popescu: ever see 'Les Maîtres du temps' (animated) ?
asciilifeform: i'd still rather not pump it into the space b/w (hollow, ustard-built) walls.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is mistake to compare to thin air and distilled water. compare to, e.g., mosquito's malaria, wasp stings.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform was at one time invited to... microshit campus, to give a talk ( about what? never specified )
asciilifeform: 1989 issue, p.25, ad: 'Cray on a chip. ... The computing power of a Cray supercomputer will be accessible to PC owners by the end of this year thanks to the Intel i860 Megaprocessor. ...'
asciilifeform: well, e.g., ffa, is 100% portable in the sense where it will build on ANY standards-compliant ada
asciilifeform: i was fully expecting to have to do the whole thing from empty space myself
asciilifeform: though, i will point out, not on crapple, where static linking is thoroughly impossible as of late
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so far it seems to be that adacore's gnat actually implements the standard; while fsf is a bit moth-eaten
asciilifeform: the effect of letting the chickens keep the beaks, is not 'chicken liberation', but simply damaged meat
asciilifeform: trinque: optimistic. the no-space 'civilized life' creates the bonsaikittens. whatever meds are simply to reduce thrashing.
asciilifeform: '..."We have no plans on releasing it to the public," the company executives said'
asciilifeform: e.g., trump, with his 'encrypted chat' on ipnoje that leaks every fart
asciilifeform: keybasetronic 'crypto' is interesting parallel to, e.g., prb. in both cases the muppetmasters get to rejoice over 'user count' but weep when realizing that nobody of any import is in this count, and the net loot sums to 0
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in gavinlandia, https://archive.is/KOhTm >> 'Resolution is to either guarantee there are non-bit1 signaling miners before enforcing (kind of incompatible with the definition of 80% activation), or manually guarantee the the graph of enforcing miners is connected.' << d00d realizes that the softshitfork thing won't work without cartel... proceeds to demand one
asciilifeform: whereas if you simply DON'T MOTHERFUCKING LEAK, it doesn't matter if 500, 5,000,000, whatever.
asciilifeform: this list is arbitrarily long and NECESSARILY incomplete
asciilifeform: the 1 constanttime implementation -- is mine
asciilifeform: whaack is quite likely thinking of the bulk of the b00k, which consists of blockcipher liquishit which is complicated for no reason at all other than the religion where 'it is confusing to ME, author, and therefore Must Be Hard To Break'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the knowledge problem is not so simple as pictured here. husband may be at work but built camera into the floor long before he met the whore. phf may know re box but not care ( asciilifeform for instance regards contents of hdd of rental servers as sacrificial , esp after theft of the original dulap , etc )
asciilifeform: contemplated setting up a honeypot for them to see what is the payload, but ars longa
asciilifeform: phf: completereload (i.e. uininvited power cycle?) seems likely
asciilifeform: iirc prb already is written to reject blocks that attempt to 'illicitly' spend the perfectly legitimately anyonecanspendolade
asciilifeform: ( any other method, is impractically slow )
asciilifeform: ( and not the much larger, costlier comps )
asciilifeform: and sooo it turns out that the current champ horse, from among the x86 runners, is...
asciilifeform: live is too short to attempt to use eyeballs as diff.
asciilifeform set up mod6's benchmark on a few moar comps
asciilifeform: xxd dump of curling the paste back, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/WOzLL/?raw=true >> many many winblowzified line endings, but seemingly intact tabs
asciilifeform: the output lives now at http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/fact_out.txt , if someone knows what 65536! ought to equal -- compare and say.
asciilifeform: for anyone not tuned in : ^ computes factorial of 65536.
asciilifeform: mod6: if this does not build on your box, you gotta find out why, before attempting anything other adatronic experiments.
asciilifeform: !~later tell mod6 http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/fact.tar.gz << complete kit for above. sha512==26198604bff50d3411e343a30b97f4babe3a6b291fca267435cecd6a5438a08862b550198a49dd5549dda00c841d95afc1443f597587710b83c7fa65effa9c73
asciilifeform: also you gotta use all of my flags to have comparable result.
asciilifeform: classic mri is simply like a 3d xray that shows soft tissue
asciilifeform: it makes every single text-touching thing 9000x moar complicated and riddled with ???.
asciilifeform: even if you personally never intend to implement an os, a text renderer, build printer with own hands, etc
asciilifeform: redditidjits worry about marking nuke tombs to be comprehensible to monkeys. how about marking liberasty.
asciilifeform: translating to engl always feels like hand-compiling to risc asm
asciilifeform: one could attempt a, say, 'be-arsewaltzed' but not same effect. and doesn't generalize.
asciilifeform: http://xahlee.info/comp/unicode_APL_symbols.html << it's in there, apparently.
asciilifeform: i'm a bit surprised that pantsuits have not yet attempted to transform english into 'wordicode', a la http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684311 .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: another fine experiment is to do 9000 mults of B-bit rngolade. demonstrates that the payload really has 0 impact on time.
asciilifeform: if you don't have a gutenberg-compatible alphabet for your language, it is defective .
asciilifeform: it's a shambling horror, with empty desert, duplicated glyphs, no particular rhyme or reason, and all the consistency of microshit
asciilifeform: it is rampaging idiocy
asciilifeform: ( why was it necessary to unicodize the fucking hieroglyphs ? even supposing the chinese are inseparable from them. why not simply carry them as bitmap matrix.)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684006 << via this, found >> http://unifoundry.com/pub/unifont-10.0.05/unifont-10.0.05.bmp << which is lulzy, weep at the sheer bulk of the orc hieroglyph liquishit
asciilifeform: why do you have a ffa-wide comparison in there.
asciilifeform: mod6: think of ffa as a soldier's entrenching spade. you wouldn't dig a foundation for a new house with it. but it is bare naked simple, + adequate and entirely so for entrenching, and for the occasional bout of hand-to-hand.
asciilifeform: btw if you're actually doing something that doesn't need constanttime, you can simply put the obvious check-for-zero in the karatsuba and get 2-9000x boost for mul.
asciilifeform: not built for speed. but for simplicity. the only concessions to optimization (karatsuba, etc) are strictly what was necessary to get to where rsa happens in merely annoying, rather than geological, time .
asciilifeform: in other lulz, folx pumping MBs of liquishit into snsa shop POST form
asciilifeform: Komplexní řešení zabezpečení objektů'
asciilifeform: incidentally i always wondered if the 'rule of law' derps simply take whatever comes out of 'lexis' as authentic precedent
asciilifeform: i also suspect that 'no airlocks' is a usg 'helpful suggestion' to architects -- after all , airlock complicates the work of the bust-in-the-night-under-colour-of-law folx
asciilifeform: the sheer lifelong complete absence of curiosity, needed to land on the fucking throne N times a day and never look for the mains plug
asciilifeform: and i'd predict that most of the perpetrators would stop overnight after the first educational public impalements began.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dunno that anybody actually, in earnest, sits and 'learns to empathy', it's a signalling scamola
asciilifeform: ( it worked ok in 1950s (!) with WHOLLY ANALOGUE components. why not today ? )
asciilifeform: there is no, for instance, useful reason to read gmp ( unless you're van-ecking gpg users, in which case you gotta )
asciilifeform: trying to learn something by reading shithubolade ( and yes i'm quite aware that there simply ain't much else in public ) is rather like trying to learn to be a fine french chef by studying shit going out the pipe of the toilet in famous restaurant
asciilifeform: phf: if you want example with moar moving parts, the nqb snippets are probably closer
asciilifeform: the hypothetical 'complete idiot' has the problem of 'buluceala' in his head. not 'not enough thought'
asciilifeform: phf: the 'insight' in ffa is simply the kind that was taught to the prussian soldiers -- 'stop overthinking'
asciilifeform: i've even contemplated making the result available, somehow, in dead tree, eventually.
asciilifeform: the other thing to remember, is that the win from writing in ada - but not in ada in general, but the style demonstrated in ffa in particular -- remains even if YOU HAVE NO ACCESS TO GNAT and gotta compile by hand into asm. because it forces the style of algo that CAN be safely so expressed - i.e. without presumption of pointerolade arithmetic, gc, or other cost-externalizing electrosocialisms
asciilifeform: but overall not a bad time to note, there are afaik no public examples of 'how to ada' that would have satisfied asciilifeform .
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682308 << comba is an O(N^2) multer. it beats the classical one simply because it doesn't need a scratch buffer of length N. it goes as the base case in karatsuba, not instead of it
asciilifeform: 'how empty!'
asciilifeform: why let the empty space go to waste!11
asciilifeform: not just 'emptying durations', whole thing was actually thought through -- could be carried by 1 or 2, 1 man can comfortably lift 2 full or 4 empties; they stacked; allowed for thermal expand; would float in the sea, even if full; etc
asciilifeform: literally unimprovable imho.
asciilifeform: mod6: in the photo is pretty obvious rat attempt
asciilifeform: '... going by the diaries, a bright and eager exemplar of 'russian intelligentsia' of the 10s of the last century... 'german liberators', 'liberation bombs', 'friends from the sd', etc '
asciilifeform: though i have nfi who vempala is
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mnemonists, various stage magicians, computed respectably long arithmetizations in heads. but this d00d seems to concern with 'people'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: subj is about 'compute in their heads'
asciilifeform: it limps on 1st page.
asciilifeform: 'Why this particular number? The intent here is to have as example a SPECIFIC MEMORABLE number (in this case, Avogadro’s number) that is roughly the minimum size sufficient to keep adversaries at bay – adversaries that have a week’s time on the fastest 2016-17 supercomputer, which in January 2017 can do 1017 petaflops/sec = 6x10^22 flops/week. In general, the specific number will depend on current technology.'
asciilifeform: 'Specifically, we restrict supercomputer adversaries to at most 1024 (Avogadro’s number) steps' << wai
asciilifeform: even if you cut the problem domain down to simple storage - turns out, tricky
asciilifeform: this uci thing, is one of those items that is wholly trivial but for ONE unsolved boojum, quite like, e.g., roomtempsupercon
asciilifeform: not that it's necessarily physical impossibility.
asciilifeform: hey this worx great so long as the secrecy of the contents, or the reliability of the computation, dun matter at all
asciilifeform: mod6 et al : in other noose, i have a working experimental build with No_Implicit_Conditionals, No_Implicit_Heap_Allocations, No_Implicit_Dynamic_Code, No_Secondary_Stack, No_Exception_Propagation, No_Tasking, No_Protected_Types, No_Delay, No_Allocators, No_Dispatch restrictions.
asciilifeform: ( it is normally ~impossible to actually use whole thing, because of routing constraints )
asciilifeform: we ain't got any tests in FG, other than 'von neumann filter has not emitted 8 bits in past 0.5msec -- lamp is red'
asciilifeform: i.e. a lamp whose brightness is proportional to how close (bits emitted from vonneumann filter per sec) / ( bits entering same, per sec) is to 1
asciilifeform unable to parse an implementable algo out of the above
asciilifeform: mod6: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Ibqes/?raw=true << example with w_mul
asciilifeform: and /me considered pasting the example, but turns out it potentially fires in every single line, lol
asciilifeform: pretty great for debugging failures of, e.g., pragma Restrictions(No_Implicit_Conditionals);
asciilifeform: same reason i didn't implement fft
asciilifeform: i don't expect to see many reimplementations, sadly, however, because one of the items of said spec is 'the following ops are in constant spacetime...'
asciilifeform: ( i dun know of any compelling practical reason to do this, outside of something like a hand-sewn gossipd packet filter in asm on bare iron, for max horsepower )
asciilifeform: pretty lulzy, jmpless rsatron then
asciilifeform: upstack, array slices ( which commonlisp also has ) are important to being rid of having to use c-style pointers
asciilifeform: (no_implicit_loops pragma iirc)
asciilifeform: btw, nobody's exempt from having to eventually grasp how ^ worx
asciilifeform: there is no 'gold standard' to which i could compare fg, etc
asciilifeform: which is frustrating because you can't resort to 'empirical test' here , because circular, there EXISTS NO 'gold rng'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for completeness, exp with 4096 operands takes ~0.3s. per. on current ffa.
asciilifeform: 'mathematics of computation' vol. 61, no. 203, july 1993, pp. 177-194 ( https://www.math.dartmouth.edu//~carlp/PDF/paper88.pdf << yes it's a scan, ain't got another ) appears to give the desired bounds for miller-rabin.
asciilifeform: lol kochgpg ends up computing garbage if the 4096 cap is removed
asciilifeform goes to the torture room answer this q empirically
asciilifeform: 'weirdos who eat garlic with every dinner because we keep trying to vampirize'em'
asciilifeform: 'Find a healthy middle ground for regulators to interact with commerce without compromising some core principles inherited from Bitcoin'
asciilifeform: imho if 9009 attempts at solution yield shitfests, problem - is ill-posed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this knot can be cut in exactly 2 ways - the 'ffa' and 'gmp', if you will
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not merely slow, but impossible, you gotta insert'em by hand
asciilifeform: certainly its implementation wont.
asciilifeform: it adds mountain of complexity and in the end is still 'wrong tool for every job'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-09#1680939 << actually it optimizes beautifully and needs 0 bignum anythings. but i've been holding back on spoiling this olympiad for phf et al
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-08#1680868 << recall that the variation was not as simple as 'this one here has 8bit byte but this one - 11, but each one simply represents a 2**n-1 range of uint'
asciilifeform: reiser is afaik the undisputed champ, if somebody still wants to experiment with classical fs.
asciilifeform: iirc there are ports to various pocket comp
asciilifeform: i went and got hold of an actual talmud, to compare.
asciilifeform: iirc it was pete_dushenski who compared to talmud.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: hexdump -v -C
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-08#1680530 << i actually attempted this , a coupla yrs ago, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=284
asciilifeform: and partly in that i find the 'prototype' that solves 0 of the difficult problems, simply not interesting. i can write a perlism that pushes shitrsa packets over tcp etc. in half hour. but why.
asciilifeform: unless mircea_popescu has a very odd, martian meat comp
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is possible to form a realistic mental model, of computer per se. but far less so of 'optimizing' claptrap.
asciilifeform: point being that there is an element of implicit lie, in the concept of the compiler.
asciilifeform: compilers for braindamaged archs ( i.e. all extant archs ) are rather 'socialism' flavoured, in that you're stuck forcing 'unprincipled exceptions' (inline asm) if you want to use anything close to the iron's full capacity
asciilifeform: if an optimizing compiler is possible for your machine or lang, one, the other, or likely both, are broken.
asciilifeform: ( it adds a screamingly unwarranted runtime and nonfitsinhead complexity to just about any proggy )
asciilifeform: sina: the reason why i am not particularly hot&bothered, is that your prototype does not contain any of the parts that comprise 99+% of the necessary work of an adult gossipd
asciilifeform: sina: no remote traffic via irc contemplated at any point in the gossipd threads
asciilifeform: and logs, tabcompletes, etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i sent g_l a surplus 'x61', complete with pen. not a bad box, though weathered
asciilifeform: 'i need to jump but only got keys to 5th floor so no dice' said afaik nobody ever
asciilifeform: gotta be one hell of a rich d00d, to jump from 100..
asciilifeform: how not? climb, jump, splat..?
asciilifeform: with impressive frequency
asciilifeform: erlehmann: there are societies devoted to encouraging emo teenagers to jump from roof. why not also for uploading privkeys.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if it were fashionable for folx with 3rd grade education to attempt such proofs, and i got one in the mail ( why., though, i dun work in that racket ) i might begin to do as subj link describes, and triage'em by symptoms
asciilifeform: interestingly we aren't (yet!!) awash in attempted proofs of 'rsa is hard'
asciilifeform: ~from rando with no symptoms of any mathematical study~ you betcha not worth reading !
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-07#1679792 >> moar closely, oughta be '...simply do not send out ships out of sight of a clock tower!1'
asciilifeform: at the risk of oversimplification -- washington & co were in favour of setting up 'an england'; j & co -- 'an italy'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-06#1679599 << this is implicit to any forced (i.e. for feeding to dullnormal children) linearization of history, which is at the very basic a vtree
asciilifeform: 'Regarding security, resilience, privacy, transparency to regulators. Those rules are generally there for very good reasons that do not simply become irrelevant because the technology changes.' << didjaalsoknow!!
asciilifeform: 'Perhaps the best example of claiming credit for a problem that did not exist before is Bitcoin. Bitcoin enthusiasts claim it solved the “double spend” problem. A music MP3 can be copied multiple times so how do you stop digital money being spent multiple times? Very simple, you do not create a form of money that lacks a central authority.' << ahahhahaha
asciilifeform: i have a prehistoric variant of this tool that worx great, but it has a little ring that opens & clamps around wire
asciilifeform: possibly delicate balance, between finding it anywhere in the room ( as a poorly made amp will ) and nowhere
asciilifeform: naturally there was nothing provable re aes -- but it served a useful end, which was to make machine evaluation of the contents en masse, impractical
asciilifeform: decompressor would brute force the N
asciilifeform: many, many years ago, asciilifeform wrote a ( and won't claim to be the only one who had this simple idea ) thing for evading censorware, that'd encipher a blob ( aes, iirc ) and package all but N bits of the key with the compressed ciphertext
asciilifeform: ( he will probably disagree, and say 'tight bound is not same as 'say how much memory and cpu'... but fact is, this is not quite the unpredictable game-of-life-style automaton contemplated earlier. )
asciilifeform: this thing wouldv'e made a great olympiad problem, midnightmagic
asciilifeform: ( i.e. not a problem that reasonably gets a final solution, but rather shifting sets of engineering compromises )
asciilifeform: ved _all_ their investments in their people this way, because it is as unhealthy for a market with disproportionate power in the hands of employees as it is with disproportionate power in the hands of employers...'
asciilifeform: '...C/C++ are quite interesting languages from a marxist point of view, too (it being May 1 and all): they are so bad that any professional who wants to do interesting work needs to learn new tools all the time and have the employer pay for it. the means of production are thus removed from the hands of the owners into the hands of the workers in a very new way. if the employers were any smart, they would not use languages that remo
asciilifeform: ( somewhat unrelatedly , i find the fact of google and crapple each adopting a proprietary shitlang, to be a fascinating thing from 'labour politics' pov -- was it an attempt to put a damper on 'poaching' of workers ? or something else. )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: y'know, toxicologists who insist on personally tasting every sample, generally do not have long, illustrious career
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where i ( and , as in linked threads, in the past, mircea_popescu also ) observe that golang is not 'simply another prog lang' but a carefully built intellectual gluetrap for the naive and energetic
asciilifeform: brothels ain't an organized effort to take a massive shit in my fits-in-headization of the comp.
asciilifeform: it wants whole planet of liquishit, that apparently one is expected to simply get in binary (?) and swallow whole
asciilifeform: because it is a ludicrous proposition -- massive ball of shit, that makes gcc look compact and fits-in-head.
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, i still have not thought of a proof that mphash terminates on all inputs.
asciilifeform: reminds me of my 'nock' compiler
asciilifeform: now if cmucl actually worked, rather than compiling to crasholade...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mpex afaik never reverted trades either
asciilifeform: iirc pence is a perfectly compliant r-flavoured pantsuit
asciilifeform: cocaine in toilet tanks, apparently, was a bit arduous, and called for at least a certain qty of actual cocaine to be tied up, if temporarily, in evidence lockers
asciilifeform: meanwhile, from same fishwrap, https://archive.is/7cEvZ >> 'A Current Affair reporter Ben McCormack has appeared in court for the first time since he was charged with child pornography offences.' << au competes with uk for 'who is premier anglo shithole'
asciilifeform: eventually provocation will work, trump will 'clintonize', i.e. connect himself with something 'uncontroversially' impeachable.
asciilifeform: as it is, even crapple pocket comps have standalone sdram.
asciilifeform: there is no possible counter to it, short of microshit introducing single-crystal comps ( was headed there, then mooreslaw croaked, now it is unlikely to ever happen )
asciilifeform: btw at some point somebody will ask, 'why not use existing gadget with dma, e.g. usb3, to diddle memory'. so answer, intel et al are implementing 'iommu', so that only nsa-approved diddles go through dma controller. plus os can see if it has usb3 etc hanging off
asciilifeform: still not quite pc bus speed. but massive improvement over the crapola that litters asciilifeform's bench, at least on paper.
asciilifeform: lol! good company to the dyinghddbird
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not recently. but it's usually made with handheld gas lamp
asciilifeform: well, there - one bit of input per one of output. whereas here is a hash: flipping ANY bit of the input should have an impractical-to-compute effect on ~all~ of the output
asciilifeform: that nevertheless decompresses in something like O(N)
asciilifeform: make the rsa hasher look great in comparison tho
asciilifeform: if you're 'managing coders' whose 'abstractions they do not in the least comprehend' it is called working honeywagon
asciilifeform: the puzzler in my head is why a ~sampling~ profiler is even necessary on anything like recent iron
asciilifeform: whereas for item that ~you wrote~, you already have the kind of picture that a sampling profiler is giving you -- in your head
asciilifeform: phf: imho sampling profilers are a wholly useless thing, 'horse with pedals', unless you're working a honeywagon (e.g. virginal trb) and have deeply nfi what the hell the program is doing
asciilifeform: incidentally theoretically you don't need the nextprime(), all you need is to compute that gcd(e, p-1) == gcd(e, q-1) == 1.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one nuance is -- it is folly to plan FOR a broken rng. 'what to do if a shell lands in my trench? jump twenty metres and scatter yerself around'
asciilifeform: 1 of the things i've been curious re mphash is bits-of-message-touched vs message-length
asciilifeform: btw ben_vulpes your mphash seems to use some shitlibrary that 1) i dun have 2) won't install via quicklisp
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-02#1678356 << there are afaik no acceptable autoprofilers in existence at all. they all do this idiotic thing with statistical sampling rather than actual per-line timer ( because apparently the year is eternally 1980 and there is no highres timer, or wat.)
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/dmpaz << where found the latter.
asciilifeform: ( there was a 1990s gag shirt -- 'have you RECONSIDERED a career in computer programming' )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: already happened. they simply jacked the price.
asciilifeform: you can demonstrate that this is turing-complete.
asciilifeform: e.g. 'do you really need a box that plays solitaire? maybe one that simply adds 32768-bit numbers reasonably quickly and outputs answer at 115200 baud, will suffice !' etc
asciilifeform: the first step is to reconsider the traditional 'konsoomer assumptions'
asciilifeform: 'p' is simply software emulator of a $widebit machine.
asciilifeform: this gives you cpu from 1960s soviet comp
asciilifeform: it simply means 'if yer trying to read from me, you gotta wait or go do something else for a spell'
asciilifeform: 'ready signals' are how you finesse the problem of subcomponents of different speeds.
asciilifeform: so adder, multer, etc, etc all exist simply as devices that hang from 1 set of wires.
asciilifeform: speaking of which, i've been wanting to discuss 'simplest cpu' for a while.
asciilifeform: given that the system includes a physical component, this is reasonable
asciilifeform: it isn't clear to asciilifeform how much 'room for improvement' there is, unless one were to cough up solutions to a number of unsolved ( and possibly unsolvable ) mathematical boojums
asciilifeform: ddos is one example, in the sense where it absolutely does not matter if a ~particular~ packet of liquishit gets sent or not
asciilifeform: now : certain processes that divide into arbitraily many - and, importantly, ~arbitrarily fungible~ slices -- are good fits for chumpnet
asciilifeform: there is not ( and probably provably cannot be ) a 'luby for computation'
asciilifeform: chumpnet nodes randomly disappear (often with permanent loss of contents)
asciilifeform: that ain't the type of flicker contemplated
asciilifeform: i'ma bake an ada mphashtron also. but currently in 'one piece on conveyor at a time' mode.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677070 << and that's when you realize that the ~adult~ gossipd is a 150x moar complicated item.
asciilifeform: yes, bum can be dislodged from train station, and trump, theoretically, from trump tower. but in practice palpable diff.
asciilifeform: sina: it's physically impossible then
asciilifeform: we may well eventually end up with fortran ( it is by far easier to write a fortran compiler from 0 than an adatron )
asciilifeform: pretty 'martian' algo for the usual O(N^2) mults, but notably it doesn't need a full Z's worth of temporary row space, but only 3 words' , ~regardless of Z width~ !
asciilifeform: '...the public defender’s office has filed approximately 2,000 motions informing the court that, due to its reportedly imperfect software, many of its clients have been forced to serve unnecessary jail time, be improperly arrested, or even wrongly registered as sex offenders.' << lol!!
asciilifeform: trinque: compared with life of fugitives with 0 social skill, my hovel wins +90000%
asciilifeform: it is mind-boggling, ~all major cpu have had 2word-outputting MUL instr for, what, 30 years. and NO compiler actually gives you, by default, the top half of it !!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no matter how you cut it, however, i dun have a battery that will power a keygeneratory-capable comp for a month. and neither does anybody else.
asciilifeform: so we run at almost 50% speed of gmp, for straight mult, which is notbad.jpg, and can be improved ( less copying of intermediates )
asciilifeform: (measuring interval of ~one~ is impractical)
asciilifeform: computation of 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF ** 0x80
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'll admit to a complete puzzlement re which 'it' i 'have there' 'and not here'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik this is only dampered today by the lack of folx willing to part with btc
asciilifeform: in ye olde su this was accomplished somewhat differently -- by physically cutting apart the, e.g., laboratory where you worked, and selling to faceless bagmen who carried it abroad
asciilifeform: phf: uni of md. vicinity, and much of dc, are covered in 'trump as ru stooge' stickers, complete with (yes) hammers an' sickles
asciilifeform: ah, example was re how it is unclear to me that professional actors like 'potus' ~meaningfully have~ privatelives
asciilifeform: because trump is zhirinovsky
asciilifeform: 'Latest from our investigations White House spotlight: Tracking Donald Trump By The Center for Public Integrity February 13, 2017' << aaaah yes
asciilifeform: aah the one where 'elite team of experts understands complex security issues'
asciilifeform: well no, not so simple, dh is happy to print 'weak' or 'fail' that resulted from... IT WRAPPING THE STRING
asciilifeform: and would not reply to asciilifeform's or other (iirc BingoBoingo ) attempts to find why