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(trilema) ben_vulpes: actual leather in the streets etc?
(trilema) ben_vulpes still boggling at the notion that dc pride would be significantly anything
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: lolwat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: clearly dancing in "pride" parades
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Framedragger: i recall a thread on the tradeoffs of this approach, do you recall? link perhaps?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is protocol for bot voice? mimisbrunnr now has a use for that.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up mimisbrunnr
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: oh hey while on the topic, best way to wind up modern genderbenders, blacklivesmatter et al feebs is to "i mean sure, but isn't that all just embedded in the class struggle?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: erlehmann: 'faces of meth' also entirely orcish.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'new blood' from trinque and mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eh i don't see how "stop bitching about problems you can trivially solve without involving the state eg rent control, try moving to a neighborhood as shitty as this one was two decades ago when you crept in" is quite "slice lengthwise"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: b-be less poor?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "but i'm poor and nobody taught me that rents usually go up and now my living expenses and rent max out my income!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: same people who are flabbergasted when rents go up 5%, having never considered allocating for that scenario.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if the "community" can't soak people who want to come there and spend money adequately to make tourism +ev for the hosts incl. cities, how can they even justify continuing to live
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who gives a flying fuck about "pushing up rents" because some people rent in ways not appealing to the local statal orgs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: recipe for portage to make $package happen to a gentoo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: do you have an ebuild for it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: diana_coman does
(trilema) ben_vulpes: erlehmann: looks like something i'd have to learn in addition to emacs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but yes, .xinitrc does consist of `exec emacs` at the moment
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eh, C-x 2/3 works as expected
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'tis the hope
(trilema) ben_vulpes: claims to, but i don't desire that at this moment
(trilema) ben_vulpes: exwm puts the x window into an emacs buffer, so can eg C-x b opera
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what means 'nonemacsizable'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: having x windows live in emacs buffers is very low cognitive overhead
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: neat recommendation; i'm working with an abortion called 'exwm' for now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: first full day at the helm of gentoo workstation while rough, was a marked improvement over the previous wheelbarrow's spiky handles. many thanks to asciilifeform and trinque.
(trilema) ben_vulpes shucks jumpsuit, runs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: holy doodle, my tunnel under steve's wall just broke the surface!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: huh, i don't understand this comment then: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-21#1673195
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what does 'ffa' stand for?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: ever read any andre norton?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ack
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes well, "everyone gets ticket" and "cannot be expelled" are two distinct things
(trilema) ben_vulpes: everyone gets ticket, some might get ejected but lord with the stories coming out of the inner cities i don't even give that much credence.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: speaking of 'middle'/'high' schools?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: don't forget us schools
(trilema) ben_vulpes: b-b-but govcloud!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did not know the signal was that quiet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whoa really?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because those branches might spew secrets to the nic?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: do forgive my ignorance, but why must rsa ops run in constant, worst-case time?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why is it that only the white austin team has animated pics
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > i am obedient
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ahaha creative director: "i am creating : we are inspiring"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "new seasons" is pretty choice
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it is a cruelty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but proposed is not to exhume dos but run an ada os thinger?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this promises to be fun
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: fuckin solid
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: i'll add a quotulator, it's been on my backburner for a while
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: certainly, rush job?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: pretty sure mimi's on utc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "holy shit look at what happens to tomato plants when grown by humans" "yes, and?" "..."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my blog is story of ignorant american bumpkin discovering slowly painfully each and every lie he's been told by the imperial press corps
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1669175 << excuse you, it was a "suburban", aka "glorified and overpowered van filled with bench seats"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did not take xslt seriously, f# woulda been an actually funny joke
(trilema) ben_vulpes: am curious to see what he'll pick!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: consider if you want anyone in the wot to /read/ your work
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "it's homoiconic! everything's a string!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm going to stop pulling levers for you here soon sina
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if you put text in the box and press the button the url params change
(trilema) ben_vulpes: doubtful anything github-like
(trilema) ben_vulpes: possibly, something!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps -- nothing!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: dunno, try pushing it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not to nominate someone else for work
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf has hosted vpatches so far without much fuss
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "genesis" is argot for root of a patch tree
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other miserable urls
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have you caught up to "v"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or use your golang thing and migrate a few years later like i did
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: sensible thing to do is make a genesis of your shit, stand up an mp-wp and post it on your blog
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: see blorg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: i hope you appreciate the bug-spottment as well lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't plan to suboptimally anything these beasts
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i may have to put stakes in the ground and hold the damn things up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: these things are going to be monster bushes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ooh BingoBoingo the tomatoes have put forth flowers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: pretty sure my sojurn through 12steplandia predates yours
(trilema) ben_vulpes: surely this is something you can do on demand without thinking already
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i mean you're a smart guy, right? what's funsies about generating html trees?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the notion does depend on several years of shared context, yeah
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: keep coming back, it works if you work it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh right, something something knobs on gpg?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: and before you start throwing around words like "drivel" and "braindead", i'm not the one who lost his keys.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "intimacy breeds contempt"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina, why don't you ask what i do for a living?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: gotta talk to folks, gotta share text
(trilema) ben_vulpes: army we have!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just say no to html
(trilema) ben_vulpes: think of the children
(trilema) ben_vulpes: think of the angels
(trilema) ben_vulpes: every time a child gets another hint that building things in html is a sensible way to spend a life, an angel of freedom loses her wings and plummets screaming towards the ground
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: surely you see how universal reliance on the browser drives unthinking acceptance of the imperial key signing model, right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: lol not even wrong
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: math does not require xml, drop the sophistry.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: million billion toy projects that do not entail even touching webshit.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: implement stephenson's orbital swarm trajectory planner?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why not write numerical integrator? bignum stack?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: it's a google product, you're "learning the lang" via writing a weblog that most likely generates html for...the browser. google lives by the browser.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: solid sentence construction to boot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: why, i must ask, "learn go"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: boogs!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh i thought you were like a golang professional or some such
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, you're going to spend your precious energy furthering the browser hegemony?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's a fork of some fraction of what drives trilema floating around the wot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: eh just use wordpress
(trilema) ben_vulpes: such developer adoption
(trilema) ben_vulpes: very easy to get started with tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah that "go build" shit pulling in rando code from rando github accounts super great cool stuff
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure, and swift isn't apple lang lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aye, can confirm matching hashes on your default string
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pick one, you'll go nuts maintaining both
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now gotta wrestle with anaconda of "google stack for performance or pystack for not-being-google"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did not even look at php because boogs!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i did it from the spec, not the php.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: again sina php implementation is of an earlier outdated spec
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and several other values
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at sixty four bits and hashing the character a.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fwiw with that change it *now* matches the output of my implementation.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh that's not a builtin aha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i mean i don't really know what you're getting at, but why is the length of the bit array resulting from eating a single char 7 and not 8
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes but why is the length of the array of bits seven and not eight
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wacky, fmt.Print(len(M)) -> 7
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dropped a leading zero?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: naively, i'd expect that to be [0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1]
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just running fmt.Print(M) downstream of the toBinArray call
(trilema) ben_vulpes: getting odd results when i do some baseline poking, a message of "a" prints a toBinArray value of [1 1 0 0 0 0 1]
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can handle tooling, ty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh hm repo has something entirely different from trilema
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > ./mpfhf.go:52: syntax error: unexpected EOF, expecting expression
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: how do i build this thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they're not errors in copying, they're built in tests of the copier!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: replace, reproduce...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in re candi_lustt, i'll point out that anyone in l2 could trivially reproduce her elsewhere, if phf's examples didn't drive the point home
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah, no, wrong sinner apparently
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > Con una mentalidad Socialista en progreso << ahaha sina is this yours?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up eplogos
(trilema) ben_vulpes off again again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: with repro cases this time :D
(trilema) ben_vulpes off for a bit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i only saw it one other time to night (6 of 'em), and i don't remember before
(trilema) ben_vulpes: some seven hundred odd seconds to hash the declaration
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: all those consed bytes came from logging
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myeah okay logging is expensive, good to know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh man i get to break out the profiler!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: consing like mad
(trilema) ben_vulpes: doc is 5601 chars long
(trilema) ben_vulpes: probably including tea-sipping and not watching the debugger
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > heap exhausted
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's when you fired the declaration of sovereignty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jeez, nov 8th 2014
(trilema) ben_vulpes: I WANT TO DO THE GPL THING LEAVE ME LONE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or we could start with bitfields and you could reverse them?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i put a tool out there for you to use, use it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not lazy, busy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: augh more strings
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: eeyyyyy that's the joke i'm making
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you missed the strings thread, didntcha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: gosh i'd have to do real work, turn strings into binary
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's on my local machine, not even particularly high powered
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i mean yes, all the time. but what in particular today?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: what's so crazy?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or is it...auspicious
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: what do yer dice say
(trilema) ben_vulpes: candi_lustt: (mpfhf:mpfhf #*1111 4)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh man how do i even pass your thing an array of zeros and ones
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and drinking tea
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gimme a second, i'm handling two implementations here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eg 0, 1, 2, 3
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my next q is does the iteration run [0, count] or [0, count)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is perfect example of "too complex for me to understand!" complaint of asciilifeform's re hash design
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well in the absence of ideas, shall we index from zero?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: !
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up candi_lustt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: any equal length of message and hash?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it wasn't just 64s, there's another element to the pattern
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so let's see some hashes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: screws will always have an initial element of zero otherwise
(trilema) ben_vulpes: writer, not a reader!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > make sure she doesn't understand
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah no wait because multiplying index by 1
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 0 seems a bit more likely...?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm trying to remember why i indexed at 1 there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one difference is that you loop from 0 up and i from 1
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i work slowly, i'll let you know if i find anything
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the length of your implementation does not particularly bear
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but yes, i will go check
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: and i worked this example at one point, i'm pretty sure the expected value of 011 is correct
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: our screws disagree
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