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(trilema) ben_vulpes: confuse everyone
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh or just have a dummy cable snake out from under the hood
(trilema) ben_vulpes: primo spots reserved for charging 'lectrical cars tho, natch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: outskirts of town have plentiful parking lots even trinque 's truck could fit into
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it is though, obvious transit welfare for the homeless. "no i don't have id, no i don't have a place of residence, good luck getting the fine out of me"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: try riding ~every day, the statistics will catch up to you.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because turnstiles are racist or i don't even know what led to the system designed such that anyone can just wander onto the trains
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it's a handheld
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "sorry for the inconvenience sir, you have a good day now. you know they keep saying there's a patch coming that'll improve battery life for these things, but i haven't seen it yet." "heh yeah and i don't beliueve that it'll work."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in shitantium lols, i submitted my nfc train fare card for inspection this am. portoscanner a: couldn't read through the leater of my wallet, b: came out of the fare inspector's pocket hung, c: unhung only to die for lack of batteries.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: illuminating, ty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: was otherwise occupied; twas a teep just the teep
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a merry occupation day to ye, ameritards
(trilema) ben_vulpes vanishes in cloud of smoke
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: many fiat stocks showing 123.47 as price
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and yet with the premiums?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: don't those things have internal actuators?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just spring for the walk-in, i guess.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not refrigerate the drawers themselves
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, figured the drawers would slide into and out of a refrigerated cabinet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: could vinyl slides and drip trays but the complexity begins to mount
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh, as water comes out of the air, pressure drops and makes opening the thing impossible?
(trilema) ben_vulpes files this away with the refrigerated drawers for the Someday Kitchen
(trilema) ben_vulpes: odds that i'll ever buy a fancy brand new stove are pretty low anyways
(trilema) ben_vulpes: huh, didn't know that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pidbox is like 13 bucks on ebay with thermocouple included
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you know i was just thinking about wiring pids into my electrical unit for precision control!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i always figured the electrical stove was just another shitanium knockoff of The Real Thing; in what ways is it so much better than gas?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: keep 'em coming, experimental design in this space is not my strength
(trilema) ben_vulpes: going to look at output distribution too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: once i start collecting data in earnest, yes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: uniform strings; still setting all this machinery up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: switch to hex?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also, was wrong last night, go impl still trouncing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 65536/2048 now at wall clock time of 5.5 hrs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'll letcha know after i rerun and capture that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and heningerisms: "In this paper we demonstrate a complete break of RSA-1024 as implemented in Libgcrypt." https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/627.pdf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other news, 65536 byte message, 256 bit hash took some 2.47 hrs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i will probably just implement the slice that i actually need
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes this refrain does ring a few bells
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-02#1678507 << "bit-smasher"? came in from ql just fine for me. i only use it as a crutch to beat strings into bit-vectors.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but if you'll excuse me, i'm going to go make a hash of breakfast
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or no, it dates to his prototype
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-02#1678500 << possibly artifact of how my first prototype did output; easily changed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina if you can get your implementations to print <execution_ms>\n<hash> that'll save me a bit of fiddling
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a not-great thing about this chart is that hash length is in bits but message length is in bytes: http://cascadianhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/100.png
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: ty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mulch or compost?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: gotta a grass q for ya
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well if i time just the hash impl it does squeak in under the go implementation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: had like five followups, all of which are probably answered by "this is probably one of those things worth doing rigorously"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not "unix tool as it may or may not be used in the future"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why disregard runtime startup time?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you mean start and end of actual hashing routine?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm well supplied with compute tho, thx
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but i am definitely interested to see how performance plays out on large sets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well who knows, who'm i to make guesses like that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myeah 'tis what i'm thinking
(trilema) ben_vulpes: go's some 3-4x faster incl. runtime
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: aye, i did
(trilema) ben_vulpes: definitely has hooks for disassembling a given function, so it would be nice if it also compiled *to* asm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sbcl lays down asm?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: adequately 'apples' from my pov; not particularly interested in imaginary performance comparisons of subsets of compiled programs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah yeah i thought we'd put that thread to bed with http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-02#1678389
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "cython wouldn't know the input type without chasing pointers all over the place"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: how does the paste relate to the JIT thread?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a stopwatch?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: buddy how do you think i've been comparing things?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dun think that's really in play here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: faster in steady state runs or faster to compile?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but extending from what i know of java's jit (not much), no. the whole file (at least in the tests i'm running) is compiled.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've no idea what you mean by that in this context
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i wouldn't keep a lisp runtime hanging around just on the offchance i want to hash things
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol, well, depends!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anything else?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mk go on, on what does it depend
(trilema) ben_vulpes: runtime startup is a cost of the program, innit?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no i do intend to black box it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: obvious counterargument is that "don't bother with subsecond executions, dork"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: something something not great subsecond resolution or so the various reddits say?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why to compare mpfhfhfhfhfhfs!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: i wouldn't know, is why i'm asking
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: got any better ideas for comparing program runtimes than perf?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in re benchmarking, is 'perf' a reasonable thing to use?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is this cross-contamination?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: they don't make keyboards for fingers that large
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fungible minoridees dontchaknow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nah, but they make up for it with genderswappers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: learned helplessness
(trilema) ben_vulpes: to quote #programmer-therapy: "i just sat clicking at a recaptcha for five minutes before it would accept that i'm human."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: quite aware
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "the guys down the office keep giving us hardons with the homomorphic encryption stuff but every time we sit down to discuss numbers it turns out to be computationally infeasible so uh here's this rest layer over postgres so you don't have to touch the dirty dirty phone numbers yourselves"
(trilema) ben_vulpes entertained a sales pitch from a seller with some relevant snake oil recently
(trilema) ben_vulpes off, robosprinklers pointed out the time and suddenly v. tired
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol sina he got nabbed by insiders and physical tails what are you on about
(trilema) ben_vulpes: some not-root root-alike?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or, a different set of eyes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cl runs 3-4x longer than the go impl after attending to all the compiler notes i can; probably need a pointer on profiling common lisp code to squeeze much more out of it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thing as what tracks cpu time etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if it runs any shell command, what's to keep it from getting at your monitor?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also worth mentioning the feedback loop where a and c get the wrong keys somehow and go talk to b about it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i had no idea how shit the tanium was
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tangentially relatedly, i've been working from a cheapo ssd in this ancient once-gaming-rig i got for a song and holy shit does it kick the ass off the ssds in macbooks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or hint of riches
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i only fuck with the jvm under duress
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this go script screams
(trilema) ben_vulpes: immutable inputs!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bugs also in coad
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: aye
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: mp-wp is pretty neat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but yeah i caught that i got a new caftan! neato!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i mean which of his
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: go impl is canonical?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it must sound so strange!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "you don't have a website?! linking to github?!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh and i get the astonishment too. that it's so deep, and about the weirdest of shit!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1668957 << not terrifically unexpected, no
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: why the resistance to making a website?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: iirc we hit consensus with [0, count) in golang, however you implemented that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what are the lolz of the day ag3nt_zer0
(trilema) ben_vulpes: allow me to reassure you, ag3nt_zer0, you *can* still curl2sudo!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: long time no see, ag3nt_zer0
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wat-as-hell pitfalls of modern timeshare scams: https://sysdig.com/blog/container-isolation-gone-wrong/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: best part, "their results are just completely out of the standard accepted by minimum wage hike advocates as reasonable"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gimme a break
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh god what's going to happen, he'll lose control and scramble out of the thing, falling all of six inches?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: moving at no greater than 2 mph
(trilema) ben_vulpes: korean neighbor of mine was nervously pacing his kid in an electric 'lotus' knockoff last week
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at least kiddo was zooming, and had the opportunity to fall over
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you've seen the gas powered 'minibikes' though, right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fuckin idiots
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "dress your kids in plastic and train them on lipos"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: going to parties, even
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674880 << home orifice is another quarter or 4 months away yet; and the republic calls even in the dead of night
(trilema) ben_vulpes: should be good now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !W (values 1 2)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !W (mpfhf:mpfhf #*10101010101010101010101010101010101010 8)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up candi_lustt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: of course i need a space before the closing paren
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !W (mpfhf:mpfhf #*10101010101010101010101010101010101010 8)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up candi_lustt
(trilema) ben_vulpes cranks one-armed bandit again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: omg is lisp repl not fucking bash shell!!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: look either you return the hooker in working order or kill her and hide the body and make yourself scarce.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: needs saying?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: "candi_lustt evals everything after !W in an SBCL environment with full access to the underlying host."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !W (mpfhf:mpfhf #*10101010101010101010101010101010101010 8)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up candi_lustt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wire autocannon into carbot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: it'll grow over time, i'll letcha know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: does she? does she?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a nod's as good as a wink to a blind man
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nono
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: yeah, i bitched about that a day or so ago; now i have stale dns
(trilema) ben_vulpes: may i have R as well?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gonna need two while we're at it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and must be an auto-decryptulator?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i mean to say in the case that the op is asleep when the bot goes offline, it'll stay that way until the op awakes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: unless the bot is to stay down until the op awakes?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674940 << excepting the special case of the bots
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: what is 'status'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > sold via OTC over the course of the next month, to ensure it will have a negligible effect on the market
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and so, adieu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: on the "laptops suck" thread, now that i'm using an adult workstation most of the time, my hands start hurting after a bare thirty minutes on a 13" laptop kb
(trilema) ben_vulpes: *brapp brapp*!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-25#1674280 << don't forget that you can put a holy 2-stroke in the secret apu slot of the slavecycle at the ghetto craft table and walk away with the prized freedombike!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sina: consider your basis shared!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-25#1674299 << yeah, it suxx, i hear you. probably going do the right thing like phf and use timestamps
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673500 << most folks who bitch in the manner of "oh noes, rising rents and stagnant wages" have not meaningfully pursued higher wages. not a matter of "rich as know how to get" but "thought this rich was enough forever" which is very foolish.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not to piss in cheerios, but to find shared basis.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other lols, assbot apparently still tells folks about the voice model
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: one of the fun things you won't learn about on a slavecycle is the delightful secondary torque around your axis of travel developed when you open the throttle while turning
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bit of state to manage, since the thing sits in umpteen channels with umpteen different voice models
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, Framedragger got me ther
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eat play derp?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: funny what turn out to be motivating factors, eh?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: js-of-mp: sure, yeah
(trilema) ben_vulpes: side thread on that thread was "also omfg the 'ad industry body image thing' came out of EXISTING TABOOS AGAINST BEING OBESE"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and even attractive' and ran with it straight to 'health at any size'"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tangential thread in my house last night, "sure, advertising industry pushes ridiculous body imagery but a) shame is part of the toolset a society uses to hold down runaway obesity and b) the stupid lazy shits are going to leverage anything they can find to justify their shit behavior and so they took the not-entirely-senseless 'hey, lotsa different body shapes besides the CGI on the teevee can be healthy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: crime of having married a man who doesn't look askance at the growing fat, see also 'health at any size'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: "it's all going to shit, and none of us can do anything about it, and isn't it weird that nobody wants to talk about how its going to shit, and maybe we're the crazy ones so STOP BEING SO DEPRESSING
(trilema) ben_vulpes: seattle's got the *claptrap*!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if the parades aren't 5% body hair by volume IT AIN'T MOTHERFUCKIN PRIDE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that ain't the pride i know
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