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(trilema) ben_vulpes: gotta wire IMUs etc to it or is that all on the pcb?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh neat, so how do you use one of these fcs?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: header forest lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well for tiny usb thingers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: schematics for the fixedwing flight controller anywhere?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that skateboard looks like a ripping good time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fixed and quad it looked like from the photos?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ReadErr: what are those pcbs?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sounds vastly more entertaining than pantsuit whinging
(trilema) ben_vulpes: time for that died ~2014
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude's a wannabe alan kay, writing on a smaller shittier blogspot which is about to implode due to implementing the "three free articles per month" idiocy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: look at wannabe-hacker-oriented linux distros like Arch and Gentoo, which refuse to supply an installer and instead require users to retype the source code of an installer script from the manual
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that was fast
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no lobbying necessary it turns out, just make 'chocolate' for vegans, call it 'chocolate' and them 'vegans' instead of 'poor and deluded'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all cocoa solids or what all is in it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you know what's surprisingly legal? marketing something as chocolate with no milk in it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: portion sizes shrinking daily, new ersatz showing up on shelves daily, styled as healthy and pandering to lord only knows what delusions
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no need, real chocolate is prohibitively expensive for more folks than cocaine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well and the aspirational bank tellers the poor dears hafta teach how to dress
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just statsheet yrself up a personality, the kit even comes with stamps and an ink pad!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gap, cocoa-cola, banana republic, pepsi, target, nordstrom, macys, ford, chevrolet...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what you think i don't shop at target because some confusion of hairshirt ethics and economics? no, they sell plastic trash, that's why i don't.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: look i'm not saying that this is so, merely that it is claimed to be so.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is victory, ysee
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because "not done in usa, and we don't shop at target because child slavery!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: soi-disant victory i shoulda said
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but afaik you are correct in that the formulation hasta be "if you can't raise them as a +ev proposition, you didn't have any business doing it in the first place" and just like everything else of +/- ev in this world, there is only one way to know if you can pull it off
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tangentially related, i was browsing the pantsuit history of victory in eradication of child labor just last night!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: negative expected value
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why is it insane to not waste the resources on the quite likely -ev project of progeny?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why is it sane to stay in the drafty and mouldering ruin your family left and insane to go abroad plundering?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dunno that i buy it, esthlos, the misery of enemies and the pleasure of their women is historically a pretty strong motivator
(trilema) ben_vulpes discovered today that airpark hangars are not quite as dry as i'd expected
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myup that is 'the website' alrighty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: revnja: which website?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: reads like "rev-en-ja", or "revenger" from here but that can't be right
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who are you, revnja ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other words meaning things news, california is aiming to allow its subjects to voluntarily donate to a state charity and have that count as a credit towards the tax bill in order to preserve its deductibility at the federal level
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: thats miles beyond my meagre sausage-wiggling skills
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well now i'm listening to the beatles because a raffi cover of octopus' garden came on and i'd rather listen to the beatles and totally not 'cause y'all are a bunch of judgemental terrorists
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't recommend it either
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol totally. i've finally leveled up in guitar to the point where i can pick some simple songs like this out, so i'm getting some background auditory training in at the same time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kidz toonz. "quack quack music please?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's up in mod6landia?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pretty good, listening to raffi, working through ffa_ch4, tidying up some stuff for $work
(trilema) ben_vulpes: went for a gun, dontcha know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: first of the new year!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: premysl: logs are in channel title
(trilema) ben_vulpes: surprisingly well know, just not really discussed in 'mainstream'/pantsuit media due to the dump truck loads of fear it inspires
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nice to meetcha, jim
(trilema) ben_vulpes: btw, who are you? do you keep a blog anywhere?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: stop by and update us with node sync process regularly and you'll be ahead of 90% of the pack, sadly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no promises, of course
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jawbone2: i don't purge ratings on much more than a once-every-other-quarter basis, so you've got some time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: alternatively, jawbone2, rent some virtualized hardware and -connect your homenode to it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a useful patch for folks in jawbone2 's position would update the results of getinfo to indicate whether trb considered a connection 'inbound' or 'outbound' so that you could determine if your dyndns hacks were working
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but 'try it and see'!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps, i do not know what promises they make.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: idem versionstring as asciilifeform mentioned
(trilema) ben_vulpes: would be neat to patch trb to have this dynamically settable, and nothard either, see settxfee
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jawbone2: yes, if you are so unlucky as to only have access to a dynamic ip, you must reboot your node with a new ip in myip lest ye 'eat' and now 'plough'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yes, i made that latter point.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nothing in http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html mentions static IPs, so let's clear this up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jawbone2: are you talking about the myip flag?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: afaik you don't even need to be able to do incoming connections, although you are a leech upon the network if you don't.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shouldn't need a permanent IP to run a node. it's a good thing, and a requirement for running a srsbsns anything, but you can drop connections and reconnect to the bitcoin network regularly without much hassle.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but you say that "i have the hardware", so use that hardware. boot a bitcoin node on it and don't worry about port 80.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no dude, asics are for mining
(trilema) ben_vulpes: divorce these concerns, run a bitcoin node on bitcoin node hardware, and a webserver elsewhere
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now up thyself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!v 02AEF7A724ECDDFE7D2A98B31B1104BE71D04CC8985E4D2008CED0AA8D1654E4
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!rate jawbone2 1 new blood
(trilema) ben_vulpes: funnily i experience this approximately never
(trilema) ben_vulpes: certainly has better art
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lending voice not yet so fraught as to be a formal introduction
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: kinda silly, if you posrate someone they can up themselves
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is there a point to that sort of spam that i don't understand?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "death to america" << ahahaha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's no way that Lord_dpb in the l0de chat is danielpbarron is it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah i recently tried a 'modern' asdf and recoiled in horror at how much it broke
(trilema) ben_vulpes: while useful in some contexts, once phf said 'asdf is a pig with lipstick', could not unsee.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i started vendoring swaths of lisp code recently myself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: neat summary, ty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what i did for candi was to link a paste
(trilema) ben_vulpes: freenode is the kludge; im not going to sink time into making *tronic bot that doesn't do auth itself because freenode doesn't like your host.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: when i booted one somehow i did not waste hours.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i am not going to take responsibility for your not reading the connection routines. it's plain as day the thing expects magic strings.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: symlink is new as of today
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they're not all there, as that's the directory they get dumped into after mimisbrunnr is asked for them the first time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's right
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: "gansta roll"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "Few things here appear to be more rare or valuable than persons capable and willing to deploy humiliation, particularly the necessary educational sort." << word
(trilema) ben_vulpes: processmessage, right right
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well at boot you pushgetblocks to everyone you connect to
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i imagine it's in your addnode set?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah, couldn't possibly cost more to run than it enables people to scam
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: you know i just went looking for a "best of MPOE-PR" and didn't find one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol i stuck my head into bitcointalk.org for all of ten minutes before i found hanbot's legendary piece and jumped to #b-a
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah, kakologs were in place before i showed up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-28#1759407 << phf pasted me some emacs erc (irc client) auth scriptage way back in the gribble days which got him a rating, and trinque and i'd been drinking together in meatland, and hanging in previously a mentioned pantsuit hellhole irc channel and ricocheted off #b-a a few times (at my insistence iirc) before it stuck
(trilema) ben_vulpes: holy log already
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gonna have to revert and watch, or provision a mess of boxen
(trilema) ben_vulpes: stormy, with a chance of packeting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: let me know if your aggression patch was enough to stay at the tip of the chain, as it wasn't for my node.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: no need
(trilema) ben_vulpes: comedy option: vpatch names are now the hash of the resulting codebase
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh you said "patch # and the codebase hash is..."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: question then becomes how to get the patchtitle into .manifest
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: okay, i geddit. do it as the first step of vdiff, so the mutation shows up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll have to doodle, cannot do this live
(trilema) ben_vulpes: okay, let's work it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: putting the codebasehash in headers doesn't work then, as there is no 'file that will always be touched' that is a part of v to participate in the toposort
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how is a4 to indicate that it needs both a3 and a3' otherwise?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (it's an urbit, and presumably others crackpottery)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it'll need codebasehashprepatch and codebasehashpostpatch i think
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well then it's out of band, unsigned
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hash of the patched codebase including the patched manifest with hash of patched codebase in it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: moreover i want to bring up another overlooked point which is that it is illegal to press a tree with these two patches side by side
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that only took a day
(trilema) ben_vulpes snaps keyboard, retires, drowns children, shoots self
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so then for a3' to be an a4, it must touch an unrelated file in a3, forever crufting up the codebase with v artifacts.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a3 and a3' can touch a disjoint set of files and never be depended upon by an a4 without mutating unrelated files to ensure dependency is properly codified.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also, single-file vpatches drives the system towards whole sourcetree hashing, otherwise they'll definitionally never depend on one another
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: this exposes another problem: in ideal vtronics it is an illegal operation to press to multiple leaves at the same tree level, which is the only way to have a codebase against which to create a makefiles-type patch that ties multiple patches together
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: which vpatch does this show up in?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this still leaves me in the pickle of producing a vpatch from a press to a that won't actually descend linearly from a without touching a file, and adding "this line necessary to ensure this vpatch descends from a and not genesis"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so far the solutions i see are a) mircea_popescu's "what tree, all patches must descend linearly or be reground into linearity" 2) allow for pressing heads that do not touch the same files
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it may be that tracking hashes at the file level isn't the right thing, because with vdiff as implemented i can trivially generate a vpatch b while working from a press of a that nevertheless still only depends on genesis if a leaves files untouched and b touches those untouched files only
(trilema) ben_vulpes: #define true false
(trilema) ben_vulpes: where's your holiday spirit, diana_coman
(trilema) ben_vulpes: borstal: that's it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's still 2017, borstal, what do you have to show for how you've lived your life?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up borstal
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up seefelder
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aye aye
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758614 << consider a genesis, a and b patchset where a and b don't touch the same files. if i press to b, write a c that descends from b, it will not have a as an antecedent. when you say "modify the filebase into the shape that you want it to be", do you mean include the changes of a in the c patch?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up BigTexasBingo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the specifics of this case is that increase_aggression_levels touches *only* net.cpp and excise_hash_truncations touches a whole lotta stuff but *not* net.cpp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that don't touch the same file
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i baked the vpatch i'm working on by pressing to excise_hash_truncation which only works accidentally, as v.pl presses both leaves at that level (first increase_aggression_levels and then excise_hash_truncation); but i don't see a route to producing a vpatch stitching together excise_hash_truncation and increase_aggression_levels without doing something that v doesn't support like pressing multiple heads
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, mod6, mircea_popescu: because an ideal v wouldn't apply both increase_aggression_levels and excise_hash_truncation when pressing excise_hash_truncation, how do i make another vpatch depend on both of those without needlessly touching a file changed in excise_hash_truncations to make increase_aggression_levels depend on it or vice versa?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: could have agreed to pay it, so it must not have been disclosed. Even if it actually was."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "The SEC, on the other hand, thinks that the accelerated monitoring fees themselves were dumb and bad. It is not wrong, exactly, about that. But dumb and bad fees are not, in general, violations of the securities laws, and so the SEC has to pretend that the dumb and bad fees were also not disclosed. It is sort of a charming picture of the investment industry: If a fee is dumb and bad enough, then no investor
(trilema) ben_vulpes: join #/join ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!down lollig400
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up lollig400
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oho i think i see why the rebroadcaster appeared to fail completely, nobody likes trb dust
(trilema) ben_vulpes: will post the transaction dumper later, after i tinker with it a bit more.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1755738 << i wrote both a "rebroadcasttransaction" and a "dumprawtx"; the former categorically did not work, the latter...at least produces raw transactions on disk.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!reputation MTW
(trilema) ben_vulpes: geeeeeet in there!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all worlds outside #trilema are the alt-world
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform mod6 phf mircea_popescu trinque and phriendz: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-December/000283.html
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sweet! thanks phf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other random lols: 2017-12-25_02:27:44.00324 version message: version 70013, blocks=0
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: am looking more for "open throttle to max airflow" knob than holographic stickers to increase hp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, my node is now either fourteen or fifteen minutes behind bc.i depending on how their javascript feels, so perhaps there's nothing to this aggression after all, sorry to disappoint BigTexasBingo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i imagine there's some "isomorphic backend rendering" node black magic horseshit going on behind the scenes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, and this is true of all their listed blocks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: first the page renders with 500918: 12, then five seconds later 500918 now apparently has an age of 13 minutes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the magic of javascript! you can decide what world you live in!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wowee, when i reload blockchain.info first it shows one number for how long a block's been advertised and then shortly thereafter, another number indicating they've known about it for longer than they said at first!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up BigTexasBingo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll have to look into how block height is advertised but that makes sense mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: howabout a timeout knob? every <configurable> minutes after the last block, pushgetblocks to all peers?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: that could in theory be once and never after for long-running and stable connections
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is there an argument to be made against asking peers for new blocks every time TRB loops through the peerlist? too resource-intensive?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: c block means a.b.c.d right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and eyy, just caught a block before blockchain.info
(trilema) ben_vulpes toasts trinque
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up KutmasteR merry kutmas
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol what kind of unholy fascimilie is that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: lol pics?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/2tKj7/?raw=true current vpatch for the curious, will post to ml after letting it run for a while
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's ~no way that the timeout requestment has fired yet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pflol well after excising max_outbound_connections and the one-connection-per-block connection count now at 114 and node very quickly got back up to date
(trilema) ben_vulpes: do i look like i'm kidding?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: let's try again: i misnamed the seal for the truncation patch, must have "ben_vulpes" in the last period-delimited field of the seal name instead of "ben_vules"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: otherwise v.pl won't recognize it as a seal.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: while i wait for the mailing list to process my latest note, please note that the sig attached in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758230 needs renaming to `ben_vulpes_excise_hash_truncation.vpatch.ben_vulpes.sig'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also it is *snowing* on *christmas eve* in the northern suburbs of the socialist paradise
(trilema) ben_vulpes: god sent him a sign, what's he going to do with it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/JWdTT/?raw=true for the curious, dear gregory pery do call in, our listeners are dying to meet you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ftr, i dun expect a response
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but judging from how the biofilm uses symbols instead of thinking i rather expect that the protonmail address is read
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i actually already emailed him
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my feelings!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but in particular i hate cpp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i hate everything
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no updating and no coming!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: does it? does it really? what the fuck does work even mean here.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that bitmashing against the ip makes my head hurt.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well the question rattling around me braincase is ~"does this help or hinder weaponized TRB?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right right.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah and when its ip gets passed around the network, it simply shits the whole world up.
(trilema) ben_vulpes suffering from a confusion of ideas
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why do the NAT node connections threaten to take down realnodes?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yeah i pulled the trigger on that excision along with the hash truncation, see the ml
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't quite see the connection between NATed nodes and this max outbound connections constraint, could you elaborate?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how many power rangers did you kill today...
(trilema) ben_vulpes running truncation patch, will get back in the saddle after misc duties of parenting while impoverished
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and they need a next gen authentication framework to fix it...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: absurdly common
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what port are you connecting on?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and only from aws ips?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: traveling through the suburban wastelands yesterday, i tried a 'starbucks' croissant for lols, thinking to myself, 'imagine if they can screw up the croissant'. and lo, it was terrible. no flake, all soft spongiform inside.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah, makefiles. suresure.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/db.cpp#0837 << any reason for this to not come out with the truncation patch?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and no, opinions don't exist here if they don't come from *a person*, which is predicated on an identity.
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