(trilema) ben_vulpes squees
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 2-stroke warfare!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/12/mnuchin-wants-to-make-sure-bad-guys-cant-use-cryptocurrencies.html << inb4 'bitcoin banned in teh usa'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > durban, south africa
(trilema) ben_vulpes: serious wordsalading: "The need to protect sensitive information being sent during war times can be attributed to the development of various encryption technologies, which are now widely available to the general public."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ipnohej but ~
(trilema) ben_vulpes: btcvixen back for more?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can't dance well unless you've stared starvation in the eyes in the past three years apparently
(trilema) ben_vulpes: back, just a lamp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: brb screaming from upstairs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you'd think but the poor girls dance just like they always did
(trilema) ben_vulpes: while we're on the topic of american ersatzolade: https://www.recode.net/2018/1/9/16870894/ces-2018-pole-dancing-robots-giles-walker-strip-club-las-vegas
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 5 sounds v. cool
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dag old blood
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well share a story, BigTexasBingo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at least ~/workspace
(trilema) ben_vulpes: appears yeah
(trilema) ben_vulpes: coarse error in pilotage?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if you want to patch an existing tree, the patch util is to your left
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes, one does not press a patch, one presses a tree.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: inb4 "just a person"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Covale: tard alarms should have fired at unqualified use of "blockchain" as a noun
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-10#1768503 << altcoins, 'responsible disclosure'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: casual violence against sharing-economy cucks also encouraged
(trilema) ben_vulpes: brandishing deemed legitimate self-defense if you can unholster without falling over
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you have to be a velo, actually
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aah
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: where is this?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: sadly all i have is a porch roof, bb gun, and alley full of squirrels and the occasional methwitch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh i'm well aware!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'it' btw useful pronoun for wot nonpeople
(trilema) ben_vulpes: btw mircea_popescu: any lolz ever fall out of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-08#1767245 or did it fade away in horror at the magnitude of the task of even determining wtf tmsr is
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !#s lemon market
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because software is a
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which is the opposite of the cppmeatfield where a thing going over budget and timeline simply results in bigger budgets and longer timelines
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well if you ship machines with a screamingly loud resonance because you took the pressure-hood's line feed directly off the air bearings feed lines without damping reservoirs most likely your office will never be tasked with anything other than sustaining work ever again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !#s if you're reading it it's for you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also the notion that technical issues aren't business issues simply points to the coolie-nature of the typical cpp slave likely to read such pap. certainly not the case where i'm concerned; the quality of code and systems delivered and maintained are of the *utmost* concern to the biz.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: certainly suspect in that nowhere does it mention the supreme import of writing code *to be read*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good to see that some things never change, like BingoBoingo's taste in news
(trilema) ben_vulpes: easy to hide miners at powerplants, i mean to say
(trilema) ben_vulpes: easier at the powerplants too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: assuming anyone knows where the large hashpower actually lives, and it isn't under the protection of whomever granted access to the low-cost-juice already
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol dafuq is an orderly exit "we will take these mining rigs and give you these yuan good luck fellas"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: apropos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > malgorithms
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: https://chriscoyne.com/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other convergences, one of the 'keybase' faces nominally also 'built' the 'okcupid' thing mike_c now runs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't see how this isn't a won except in the minds of the feds
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: what precedent?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (damore, for anyone who forgot, was fired from google for thoughtcrime)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/08/james-damore-just-filed-a-class-action-lawsuit-against-google-saying-it-discriminates-against-white-male-conservatives/ title all really one needs for the day's chuckles
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other self contradictions of life under american socialism, google is facing class action lawsuits from both men and women claiming different kinds of discrimination
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://www.zmescience.com/science/oceanography/melting-ice-sea-rise-08012018/ << ocean bottom is deforming but this means that sea level actually rose more than was previously guessed at rising!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well look i've got you on one hand and the gay elders who despise my generation on the other, one of you actually lived in new york on the scene in heels before it was cleaned up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: when gay men were real men
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 70s
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at that time though the banker was likely in the square for the trade anyways, and so would know how to talk
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: this wasn't always the case, once upon a time the trannies in times square were more likely to knife a less-than-complimentary strolling banker
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "do we really hav to do this? IN 201y!?!?!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the speed at which the immune system kicked in was pretty impressive
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good monday, #trilema! are there any other marginalized characters who want to line up for a stomping?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pwahaha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: excuse me?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: clearly a tigot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: first people whose names start with 't' and now 'b'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (all you really need to see are the knuckles hue)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fiat id reeeeeeeee
(trilema) ben_vulpes: your favorite kind, asciilifeform !
(trilema) ben_vulpes: autism alarms
(trilema) ben_vulpes: NOFACE REEEEEEEE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "we will *not* be shooting up, omfg. we will be *snorting* like civilized adults."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heyyyyy mircea_popescu why are programmers so angry
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "eyy, so javascript am i right? eh? anyone? it's like, terrible right?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey asciilifeform what's up with javascript?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oooh yeah actually yeah there's this thing called javascript and i can't figure out why it exists, what's up with that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: teh shame
(trilema) ben_vulpes: btcvixen: cannot draw visual palindromes on demand?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: these are good logs boys
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: hue, ofc how silly of me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: btcvixen: lol i was gonna ask where you keep 'em
(trilema) ben_vulpes: btcvixen: didja get bored of the #-otc babbling?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ohey, btcvixen
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tyyyyy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: do you remember the article where you said something like "or the entrepreneurs will win and then there will be a decade of hedge funds making a killing on the opaque altcorn market before we kill them all slowly"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's what, 2018, and the people pushing altcoins are still struggling with arithmetic.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shoulda been the simplest possible transaction in the world, one output summing to the value of all wallet inputs less explicityly set miner fee.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "electron cash"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unrelated to anything, i recently had the most amusing experience with a "bitcoin cash" wallet where it *insisted* on creating a zero-satoshi output.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bbl, familytime
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: this is possibly the most fun and educational homework i have ever undertaken
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-03#1763376 << /me puts on dunce cap
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: oversight
(trilema) ben_vulpes: figured that you would find it eventulolly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how are you determining dpeth of reorg?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > 2018-01-06_00:29:50.97891 REORGANIZE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but this is the magic political speshul case of a patch that ties together other patches for the political object that is a release!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: db.cpp, init.cpp, several
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ehehehentirely unrelatedly, asciilifeform, what's with the odd capitalization of mUx in ch4?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not going to go break everything, at least today.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: arguing has honed how i see the problem at least
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can dig trench here or ten feet sideways, literally does not matter to me.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm going to tap out, will wait for mircea_popescu to pour some more fuel on this one.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the point that trinque is making is that you can change other files in such a way that ruins maxint_locks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or to put it a different way, that one *must* create an invalid state in order to patch atop two divergent patches.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what irks me about this is that one can make a patch that depends on a state of the codebase that is not a valid press.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: different problem, different problem.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759146 seemed pretty fleshed out to me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey asciilifeform didja have any objections to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759143 ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes tunes out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: she went to wal-mart! crucial detail!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: very specific with the accusation history too, in the office is where she accused him!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hmk
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: why `int' for EOF and `Integer' for Sadness_Code ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: caftans for the caftan god
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !A .4.3.6.ABCD.FF.0.1 ``>{_}{'_}_``>{_}{'_}_``>{_}{'_}_``>{_}{'_}_``>{_}{'_}_``>{_}{'_}_ Q
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lest i ironclad myself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i know that it shouldn't, but i do like to actually test things
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh man i didn't even test against hex values
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (ch 4 puzzle accessible to noob as well, but still took me much grinding of headgears)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll noodle on it as appropriate, sure
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah, dun expect such of me; i draft plans for field construction of catapaults i don't invent them
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh sorry sorry, i meant a solution to the ch4 puzzle
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i haven't bitten off the patch yet, and might not get to it by the time you release ch6, this all takes me a lot longer than phf or lobbes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, gonna reread vpatch for ch04 and then submit with my seal but sure, gimme a sec
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a solution!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sweet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i has it!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gotta have working model in head first before patching!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wbool flag, you mentioned iirc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !A .1{[foo]}{[bar]}
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !A .1{[foo]}{[bar]}_
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am having just a terrible time with the else-clause pushing a zero to the stack
(trilema) ben_vulpes: possibly just normal idiot browserclient!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a modern IRC client that keeps you connected, with none of the baggage
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i thought that's what irccloud advertised
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude The20YearIRCloud the fuck even is the point of a bouncer that's constantly disconnecting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-03#1763210 << once i realized what was going on...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah really, muchas gracias mod6
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the important thing is that it not be the same tempdir every time so that interrupted executions don't block the next execution
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it is fine to leave the tempdir in place so long as it is uniquely named
(trilema) ben_vulpes: point also is not absolute age but years bouncing off the republic
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: it's not a personal attack, i disagree that i agreed that v.pl was doing the Right Thing in leaving ~/.gnupgtmp hanging around
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: make a disposable tempdir like stans original and my port. i don't know whence this 'agree', stan's original was clear enough.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: logs save us from the "but i thought we agreed" floppy meatsack memory.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: you gotta quote chapter and verse from the logs to support "outcome of that discussion".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: want to corroborate what appear to be facts before plowing down a possibly retarded path though
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the mega-clue is "any seven numbers"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah i don't
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey man i only figured out how conditionals worked today
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is there some way of doing iteration with the opcodes from ch4 ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: then at that point the historical perspective was obviously necessary and i've simply never seen modern arch's as anything other than complexity madness in search of itty bitty performance gains on systems nobody can actually reason about
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i only started thinking about compute because of bitcoin, and shortly after i started thinking about it in earnest (like maybe a month, six weeks something like that) you showed up in #b-a and /even at that point/ were talking about eg trinary circuits and computing fabric
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've never been burdened with the "This Is How Things Are" of the c-machine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it all strikes me as so very silly on the surface but i have a weird lens of not having thought about any of the related shit until ~2013 and even then only through republican eyes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: such sandbox very secure
(trilema) ben_vulpes: iphones apparently vulnerable to SPECTRE too, hilariously
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah but fuck them in particular
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is mktemp widely installed enough to be used here?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah over is the key!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: i don't actually recall any agreement on the topic, you did yours one way and i another, and i cannot recall how asciilifeform's original handled this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-05#1316693 is what i dig up on the topic
(trilema) ben_vulpes: had to go beat self with everything i was never beaten with starting in my early twenties when the republic kicked off
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: not rare, was just never beaten with one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: have not, believe it or not
(trilema) ben_vulpes: only the artsy fartsy guicrap
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it does, this is my first encounter with a stack machine tho so thinking is proceeding slowly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so will not be reading ch5 yet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: still working on my solution to ch4
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right, i shelled out to mktmpdir in mine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah k nm then
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it is a minor thing that i occasionally trip over
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: while you're in there can you get your vtron to cleanup its tmp gnupg directory when it catches a ctrl-c?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: terribru pun on glassware
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm still waiting on my three secret beakers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: entirely sensible!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: other lulzies in the same vein http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp?v=makefiles#2418 and http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp?v=makefiles#0309
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp?v=makefiles#1848 << and fuck you if you want to make a command with a name more than 1char longer than "walletpassphrasechange"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or even aligning the = operators themselves
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now that we've done indentation, how about aligning variables on the right side of = operators
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other news, lowtax state of wa remarkably efficient in stark comparison to hightax state of or.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is with these retards and their untestable hypotheses anyways, "this might blablabla the whateverwhatever". nigga can you not design an experiment? or might it be that the necessary experiments are actually impossible given the impossibility of baking metrics and disambiguating confounding factors?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: i'll put it on the budget lolz shelf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > memorly << prett good coinage
(trilema) ben_vulpes: np who are you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up vap0r
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up vap0r
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wot wot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 2017's "a is for activist" -- b&. 1933's french colonial propaganda -- celebrated.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other lols, my 1933 babar reprint just arrived and it is a delightful paen to colonialism
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jpxe: ssl is shitty shit from commie joo empire
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and familiarize yourself with v ( http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system ), read logs for six months...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jpxe: start at http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1913
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so jpxe what sorta adastuffs are you working on
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that is one of the nicest things about this little town that i've moved to, all of the girls make eye contact and act feminine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eye contact also offensive
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nearly tumblr rape gimpwork grade
(trilema) ben_vulpes: really going for the big tent there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: free bible software download!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hm i cannot find this wonder in the logs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: btw how come nobody in the "stop rape culture!!11" world has done an indiestarter to build the vagina dentata from neal stephenson's snow crash?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes i know, in ro
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trilema reviews better use of time mostly anyways
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: i haven't watched much television or many movies full stop
(trilema) ben_vulpes: k i guess i gotta see or read this now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: free speech fundamentalism is facism, because we sat around and wanked to the tune of logical programs and term equivalence, but skipped history of governmental organization 101
(trilema) ben_vulpes: >> Unfortunately, one participant was stuck on free speech side of the debate. << kawaiiiiiii neh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that we can all be treated truly equally at last long last"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > i haven't tried this test yet << and you don't know that it only works on the feeble minded, literally anyone else is going to see exactly what you're doing and give the canned response that you want: "the patriarchy keeps women down and what is really called for is demoting and docking mens wages, and promoting science education for little girls, and generally eradicating the constructed gender binary so
(trilema) ben_vulpes: holy hell someone set off an alarm at a construction site down the street and now i cannot think through the blaring
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'magic' just means alkaline; necessary to make the reaction run.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: leaves not enough on their own, gotta throw in some of the magic dirt too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you did what now?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: no
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, like paying taxes?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'umble pie is an unknown delight for these people
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no really, you're crying because he got dinged and not because you didn't get the raise? i am so very convinced.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and in riotously amusing equalitarianism and whocouldapredictedz: "After the committee ruled in her favor, the municipality lowered the man's wages to Ms. Sigfusdottir's level. 'I went home crying,', she said in an interview. 'I would never have gone forward with the case knowing it would only lead to my colleague receiving less."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not only that but it doesn't display 8 decimal places naively, and i don't care to figure out how to fixit, so it got binned on the spot.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so i dug this ti-89 platinum out of my closet last night to have something tactile to do arithmetic on and holy shit i'd completely forgotten about the input lag
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mine's been doing a marvelous job at staying at the tip, and i suspect that my network slices have made transaction broadcasting more reliable, but This Ain't Science
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so whatcha working on now?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: subject of circles where does this timecop feller and this otherguy with the uhf dick swinging habit all hang out?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: new one on me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ReadErr: what does 'HIV' stand for?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!reputation ReadErr
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hiv?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how dyou get setpoints from table to fc then
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oya? wifi stuff?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ReadErr: how much of a hassle is it to throw waypoints or actuator setpoints at one of those fcs of yours while its flying?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: solved child enslavement and leaded solder equally well teh pantsuits
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that easy, huh?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ReadErr: where do you get properly leaded solder?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: regulation is crap.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shake it hard it may come out, i hear the rohs crap is crap
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ReadErr: has an iphone with the soldered in storage probably, cannot pull sd card?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what why
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude it's just going to keep happening. sv baitnswitch.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sounds like you want a holistic personal backup strategy, really gotta go bolting shit to the side with galleries as well?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: word
(trilema) ben_vulpes: costs like 5 bucks per month
(trilema) ben_vulpes: run a server, set up apache?