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(trilema) ben_vulpes: send them to me please, stand by for mailing address
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'm more interested in the remaining supplies of fuckgoats; can i get a quote for 15 of them?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wow christ, many apologies.
(trilema) ben_vulpes to waltz around in the sun for a few minutes, will digest comments async
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i would also like to deposit these funds with a non-involved individual to seal in blood the capitalization of this entity
(trilema) ben_vulpes: attn all, here's a draft of the new articles of organization for what was BISP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/A5yUZ/?raw=true excoriate away
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: i've said it before and i'll say it again, your calm under fire is invaluable and i'd be much obliged if you'd stick around.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if that's not enough time, please to speak up asap
(trilema) ben_vulpes: feb 28th, please
(trilema) ben_vulpes: great. here's my address http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/couvJ/?raw=true when can you get the box to me?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: do you still want that slot?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah sure, but it'd be a foolhardy operator indeed who expected customers to underwrite bonds
(trilema) ben_vulpes astonished mircea_popescu remembered the brand this time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or somehow if the bonds are not from mircea_popescu they are not wanted
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is the "potential customer" underwriting bonds?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: didntcha say you weren't going to go on tilt?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: do you plan to rent boxes when we get them racked, or possibly colocate?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we've made commitments to each other; if those are reneged upon the whole world goes up in a bonfire of negrating.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if i say "all boxes getting racked will have 32 cores" that's a huge minimum buy that i don't know that l2 can really eat many of.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: standardize on number of cores or processor type?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i want the next run to have one box with lots of ram and cpu to start selling vps and shared hosting in earnest, and another 2 of smaller boxes that can be rented out entire in the $3-400/mo range.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: will be renting boxes out, this first courier run is filling up with space-rental.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's so not-dc-worthy about 'em?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!v EC08ABA86FC893FD5A6FCC6FB66965D075BC3B7B00C8BBE155266D7DF4D34286
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!pay mod6 0.36578854
(trilema) ben_vulpes bbl, $child has announced bedtime by angrily tearing apart a couch to build a fort
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!v FE62C1A6B3D703CEB2F058D90938A452801E95F7DCBC03825D763D80E3F7C9DA
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!pay mircea_popescu 0.8
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nah, let me take care of that. 0.8 it was?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also first blockquote missing a closequote
(trilema) ben_vulpes: neat shit trinque
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!v D2AD376C41204078EEB33F217EBD9010D5255241FF9402E4EC6928672DD9556C
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!deposit 3.3
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll do it, standby one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: i'm guessing mod6 is away from his keys
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we can run it async, just paste him the deets encrypted
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov will then send the exact quoted amount to that addr and bob's your aunt we should be fine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: run !!deposit 3.3 , decrypt it and send the results to jurov
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: hang on, deposit to mod6's account
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: if you make a deposit call, can you give jurov the address and amount to send?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: TomServo: not saying no benefit, would actually be a great thing to do and write up: "so you want to fuckgoats your gpg"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what do *you* prefer, TomServo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: TomServo: you're talking about updating the nonsense "name" field on your kochrsa key?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ty jurov_moving
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey would you be so kind as to push 3.3 btc of foundation funds to mod6's deedbot account?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what a time to be alive
(trilema) ben_vulpes: settled in btc even?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so asciilifeform you see why i'm advertising the slot?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you ordered these boxes from asciilifeform and then threw hands up over the whole thing; still want them disked and racked any preference on which?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so it's 1 slot after 1 of 3 s.nsa machines; let's fill it with another s.nsa machine.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well you've got the 1 machine that's ready to ship right now, dulap yhes? and then of the 2 remaining diskless gotta a) get disk in 'em and b) get mircea_popescu to okay their installation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: also hilarious was the wank in pantsuit news recently about omfg nk made so much money evading sanctions and who would evade sanctions!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have one 1U slot open in my next courier run to .uy, if anyone wants their machine couriered down speak NOW or i'm going to fill it with a box of my choice
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh i'm just ribbing him for last night
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but i dunno about that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ave1 seems to think i'll need a new key
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783842 << BingoBoingo needs supervision and tasking at a (micro-)scale that mircea_popescu understandably has zero interest in providing. now this may be a case of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-10#1783173, but if building an isp for tmsr isn't worth bleeding for i don't know what is and so this is the breach into which i intend to step.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, we release a trb that steals your coins and somehow nobody is to blame? get real
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how does that follow from my and mod6 personal responsibility for everything the foundation does
(trilema) ben_vulpes: remind me of what these rules and bylaws are again?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thanks, ave1
(trilema) ben_vulpes: somehow lobbes trinque phf asciilifeform can run bots without the republican isp but all of a sudden shinohai cannot?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the equation, it pencils out over here as well.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aaand that assumes that the 5 slots mircea_popescu wants don't overlap with s.nsa
(trilema) ben_vulpes: diana_coman: i've only tallied up ~1.7k/mo in l1 space rental
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, it was a bit further up, "~1.8k monthly of rack rental buy side floating around"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i pulled 2834.06/mo from http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/03/pricing-information-fun-with-numbers/ , estimated some 1.7k in rental subscriptions from l1/2
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: yeah i rolled IVA into that number, is that wrong for some reason?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: neglecting shared hosting, and again waving hands at a sales rate on vps slicen of 10/mo and zero churn etc, thing could hit breakeven on the rack alone sometime in august
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm guessing the initial subscription of just rack space comes to around 1.7k/mo; waving hands at a vps setup "special get us to breakeven" deal slicing up one of the mega boxes asciilifeform described implies a breakeven at some 57 monthly rentals at 20 usd/mo (which buys 4.5GB of ram, notbad.jpg in the grand scheme of things, but the tiny straw of bandwidth weighs against this)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: obviousl.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: elaborate?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-13#1783475 << this is not that clear to me. what i've penciled out is that there are some ~1.8kusd monthly of rack rental buy side floating around, and mircea_popescu's plan as i understand it was to build and rent vpsen to get to breakeven, which still needs someone in teh forums hawking vps
(trilema) ben_vulpes: girl just pointed out to me that the illustrator of curious george and the bunny didn't let slip a single opportunity to draw a pink little bunny butthole
(trilema) ben_vulpes: log lag, such hysteresis. next up: "gps no longer a thing anywhere usg assets are walking around outside of their bunkers"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's so pleasing to watch all of these golden toilet tekmologies fall to basic 'wasp'tech.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: usg cops slowly cottoning on to the fragility of their position: http://abcnews.go.com/US/women-dead-cop-injured-dangerous-ongoing-barricade-situation/story?id=53017623 "death toll could have been much higher", also garage countermeasures finally gaining traction among le resistance; dood lit fires inside the house i imagine to foil the IR cameras
(trilema) ben_vulpes: subject of correctness, /me has been using "hugs" in place of "shit people from shithole countries". the lefty brainfry this induces is spectacularly hilarious; "i know you're using good words to mean bad things but but but!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thing is proven to be worth 0 in the future after much self delusion, rather than 0 now.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't follow the logic behind the valuation of the castle at t->inf. once proven wrong, whatever bastion was defended is overrun and so worthless.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: something is seriously awry in that head.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wowowow shinohai
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey, pete_dushenski how didja plug the fg into the koch-rsa keygenerator?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: you don't want a 4096 bit key; i can't find the relevant logs at the moment but koch-rsa does bad shit when generating keys > 2048 bits
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "hoist upon own petard"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: what's involved in "transporting as cargo"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how about this us stock market blowoff: 9% loss in less than a month! stocks clearly too volatile to be worth anything as grownup investments.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (the log line of which i cannot find)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: exactly the "get another car" thing mircea_popescu described
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "it was not evident at the time the nuances of where the doors would be" har har har
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what kind of building was this phf, school?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heeeeeere's johnny!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was infected by that one as an actual child
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and just to purge the queue, also read the last few books in the robert jordan and friends and children series and yup it ends exactly as you'd imagine good guys win bad guys get locked up for another eternity until the cycle starts all over again millenia hence
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (given as my life is so very pedestrian probably)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i muchly prefer the manly men doing manly stabbings and gambling and whoring tyvm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's what you get for picking things based on "it was written by a queer person of color" rather than "it is actually good"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: as in actually homoerotic; with gay brotherly incest thrown in to boot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shit was gaaaaaaaaay
(trilema) ben_vulpes: girl put this miserable pulp "ninefox gambit" in front of me recently, and i've been bingeing to get the taste out of my mouth
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude i just reread hyperion and fall of endymion too for the first time as an adult
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh yeah the chronicles has a flavor very similar to that 'heavy metal' set of shorts
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lord of light also on the reread list, i can't actually remember what it was about for the life of me it's been so long.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: subj. of 60s/70s fiction, /me rereading zelazny's chronicles of amber for the first time in over a decade. did not age as poorly as i expected.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who will service the chan now?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: abandoned by chanserv
(trilema) ben_vulpes: call me when btc crosses 100k and asciilifeform finally coughs up for the custom fab
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fuck this noise i'm getting my ase cert and going into rally cars
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gcc has the ken thompson hack and llvm doesn't dontcha know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and you gotta use gcc 7 to get the spectre mitigations in gentoo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: hah new one on me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the excuse me what now?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://archive.is/B1PLp << more on support animals
(trilema) ben_vulpes: binance, an altcoin exchange with no representation in the forum, is down
(trilema) ben_vulpes: meanwhile elsewhere: "I found a nice place where people are so stupid you can make up that an imaginary friend propped up a knife and wounded you, and they will take you seriously. God bless r/tulpas."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've another machine coming online this afternoon, i'll endeavour to reproduce
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what do you want to see next time?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and before you ask for logs from the wedged box -- it simply stopped writing logs. damndest thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the new box has been syncing unstoppedly since
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: one interesting hiccup was that when i synced in vanilla "connect to wide net" mode, this new node somehow got stuck and also i think triggered some weirdo crash/wedge on another machine of mine with a raid array of rust that had until that moment been hanging at the tip of the spear, but when run with -connect to the self-same (restarted) node a) the rust caught back up within an hour and b)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if yr hospitality extends to me i'd love to stop in
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: gonna ship another box with the timing patch from aeons ago, sync to completion and then post
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: well i'm flexible yet, gpg me some dates and i'll ensure to have time to say hello
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, one of the boxes flying with me has synced with my max aggression patch atop asciilifeform's aggressive pushgetblocks has climbed to 308K in 4 days
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh and please to have machines at my domicile by the end of the month.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nothing stopping me at that other than time though
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: currently estimating 3-6u, nothing nutty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so anyone who can't get materiel to phf by takeoff may talk to me about hauling machines down south. i expect folks to cover freight, pitch in on the trip costs, and guarantee reimbursement for VAT/IVA should it be levied at the airport.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aha, specifics not nailed down yet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ive my hands full with servers por el bbisp but once i'm done and they're packed up i'll run the tests in ch9 but must cop at this moment to not being caught up with the series at all yet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lordy boiling frustration in ch9, diana_coman
(trilema) ben_vulpes: every second in the water is a fight to stay at the surface
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no notrly, /me suffers from lobbes-style sinkism
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: was watching from beyond the break?
(trilema) ben_vulpes knows, but only from videos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh man, i would really like to learn to surf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right right, that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a beer in the car!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: of the esl set that is
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh i dunno that i've ever heard a couth name for the practice tbh; or any person who'd call themselves couth engaging in it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: zero likelihood of interdiction with a polite babe at the wheel.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but it's great for rolling with road sodas
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hahaha i fuckin know it's charming
(trilema) ben_vulpes: girl is just not going to rev my shit past 4500, you know?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: much like the honda babywagon i've allocated vs the three f1 engines a team's allowed in a season
(trilema) ben_vulpes: points on a continuum from where i sit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this ftr is what galls me about ssds; the accelerated deterioration rate.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: make 'em someone else's problem, and pay for the convenience.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh yeah i think trinque and i have pretty similar attitudes towards how to treat machines you're going to run hard
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not trying to cut you down TomServo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: TomServo: i personally run machines for longevity, but i can see why mircea_popescu and BingoBoingo would want to run their lowendboxen hot and cram as much into 'em as possible.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, they heat up, crack their pcbs, shut down. run your fans, this won't be a problem.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i ain't justifying shit, i'm saying that i'm not concerned about the health of the rack from a few hot boxes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but in theory, if you want to wank over the thermofluids
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, no, we're talking like sub-1% contribution to overall cooling
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thereby actually improving cooling conditions
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if we don't neglect it, i'd expect entrained flow in the same direction as the convective cooling flux, eg from front of rack to back
(trilema) ben_vulpes: air currents within the DC might actually ruin this, but for the sake of the gedankenexperiment, let's neglect those for now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that argon between them doesn't move; the viscosity of the gas keeps it locked in place and it acts as a superior insulator to the glass.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right, which is why your double-paned windows are so much better of an insulator
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heaven help us if the machine bodies actually drive a) because someone isn't cooling adequately, and if the gap is sufficiently small (as anyone with dc experience can attest) we'll probably have "stagnation" conditions, where the air is not actually circulating between the machines
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the concern is convective heat transfer between servers. for that to happen there must be a) great enough gradient of heat between the machines and b) enough space between machines for air currents to get moving
(trilema) ben_vulpes: since we're doing thermofluids tonight...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've never racked machines that squealed on insert, you?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's not actual box-to-box conductive contact
(trilema) ben_vulpes: intel calls that an "unplanned restart" these days lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and heaven help the person who lets their box get hot enough to transfer heat radiantly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: moreover it'd be what, mostly radiant with a bit of conductive through the air gap between servers, which can probably be approximated as stagnant and a good insulator
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i know but if the convective flux is adequate there really shouldn't be that much heat conducted from machine to machine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cooked, yes, but you hoover from the aisle in the front and dump into the aisle in the back. so long as everyone's dumping out the back, nobody should be sucking exhaust gases.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also i like rockets
(trilema) ben_vulpes impressed with today's musklaunch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: where does that 5.90 come from?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: why are you not rolling VAT into this pricing scheme?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: get a read on how they calculate tax for items in opened envelopes yet?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hah mircea_popescu did break the messages table!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: real stuff is expensive, nyooz at ereven
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's also mcmaster carr
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: broke the messages table!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: good point
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781252 << this is precisely what i fixed, didja look at how it works now before bitching?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, artifact of the link being to .#<anchor>
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781250 << would be a shame to waste a whole page on 2 lines, as happens from time to time, but i can see the argument, esp in re how the monthcollapse hides dates
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781237 << perhaps the 'prev' link showing 2017-12-31 is too subtle
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i want to do something to surface the dates of conversations, also the "next" button on the monthly view lets one page forward into infinity, but i'm going to let it sit for now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ohai trinque
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey if one can throw a hissy fit and get into a brooklyn pub with it, surely untied will fall into line as well, right RIGHT?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you haven't noticed that bitcoin isn't the toplevel topic here more often than not?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey, you don't talk much the name didn't stick
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what brings you by
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up Techman
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i assumed that his "to claim my" was in response to "but waii"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how does elgamel and dsa have anything to do with that comment?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: shit has gotten intolerably shrill. "vehicular homicide!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i emerged @world three times and started working through hanon's piano exercises!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: totally not a relabeled IE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: you said you had to go gcc 6 -> 5 -> 4, right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780744 << "Mr. Pierce walked around the tree and said prayers for Puertopia, holding a rusted wrench he had picked up in the territory. He kissed an old man's feet. He blessed a crystal in the water, as they all watched. He played the Chaplin speech to everyone and to the tree, Mr. Nygard said."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: guy delivering servers today wanted to know what i was doing with em; "well let's see, install some software and then rack 'em in a datacenter, what else does one do with servers?" "no but like are you mining bro?" "haha funny. don't you have something for me to sign?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: demise of unix os is a thing to rattle swords pon bucklers 'bout
(trilema) ben_vulpes stomps floor, pounds table
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, i have viral load and it's in my everything
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fuck i can't use this keyboard wtf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways phf oi
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: throw 'em on gurneys in la aeropuerto?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: you have rackcrate? get from asciilifeform ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the time for talmudry is nigh!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure absolutely
(trilema) ben_vulpes: would be pleased to, actually
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i live in possibly one of the worst places to travel from, but i've got two servers for the foundation sitting on my office floor i gotta get down there as well, so if asciilifeform's rotrip delay is that much sand in the gears i can make the run to uruguay
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