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ben_vulpes: bitte
ben_vulpes will log #asciilifeform later this afternoon
ben_vulpes: !!up nonlinear welcome back
ben_vulpes: ah, makes sense
ben_vulpes: i'm not entirely clear as to the benefits of depreciation under the tmsr accounting regime; most of my experience has to do with optimizing tax treatment in fiatlandia which is irrelephant here
ben_vulpes: yours, i mean.
ben_vulpes: no, that's correct
ben_vulpes: i'll be back later
ben_vulpes: yeah have fun
ben_vulpes: i'm here, we're close to the bottom. may as well finish it out.
ben_vulpes: mod6: what else troubles ye, i have other sisyphean boulders slipping back downhill as we speak
ben_vulpes: and it's a truncation, not a rounding
ben_vulpes: like i said, baseless aspersions
ben_vulpes casting baseless aspersions
ben_vulpes: show me the perl that doesn't mangle double floats...
ben_vulpes: the slut is truncating
ben_vulpes: !W (+ 0.46713262 (/ (+ 186 311 620 183 459 58 44 69 35 44) 6800) (+ 0.02129452 0.03333333 0.00901087))
ben_vulpes: candi_lustt: (+ 0.46713262 (/ (+ 186 311 620 183 459 58 44 69 35 44) 6800) (+ 0.02129452 0.03333333 0.00901087))
ben_vulpes: !!up candi_lustt
ben_vulpes: a bitcent says that's the difference between purchased usd and expenses denominated in usd, redenominated in btc.
ben_vulpes: .004!
ben_vulpes: some .04 btc discrepancy from the report
ben_vulpes: !Qcalc 0.46713262+0.3+(0.02129452+0.03333333+0.00901087)
ben_vulpes: right, so factor out the invariant and let's calculate the net change since that's where we'll find discrepancies.
ben_vulpes: i mean to say that the .3 btc was spent on usd, some fraction of which was not in turn spent on expenses.
ben_vulpes: first off, the .3 btc was spent on cash
ben_vulpes: how about we just look at the net change, first
ben_vulpes: (to be used in next months reports, etc. hence "reports as ground truth and not your account balance")
ben_vulpes: ayup, this is how the bottom-of-the-report tables work: summing the previous months values against the current months values to derive a current number.
ben_vulpes: (the 10.4 under discussion)
ben_vulpes: calculated per "sum the value of all non-capitalized purchases (DC, fiat spent denominated in BTC, and the sum of depreciation charges), and mark that as net change for intangibles and goodwill"
ben_vulpes: sum of previous month's goodwill and this month's goodwill
ben_vulpes: mod6: what is unclear about that line?
ben_vulpes: derp 10.4, not 9.4
ben_vulpes: mod6: 10.4 is more of a note about what happens in various scenarios than instructions relevant to anything happening in this month's report
ben_vulpes: so accounting's job is to provide a reasonable, non-malicious estimate of that value, and let investors perform their own valuation based on whether they think that a high or low value for the tangible in question.
ben_vulpes: yeah, keep in mind that the tangibles line is, again per "Accounting for the nonzero asset corporation" "any and all assets that could reasonably be expected to be exchangeable for BTC, even if at a loss"
ben_vulpes: i do not think that this coupling is necessary, however. a photo of the exchange rate from BingoBoingo at the same cambio on the 27th every month may be adequate.
ben_vulpes: value for the previous month's closing value of the uyu/btc rate (which is also the opening rate for the next month)
ben_vulpes: the past two statements i have pulled that value from xe or forex.com at the time of statement generation. if you want to couple the UYU/USD price timing to that of the USD/BTC price timing, you'd have to hold off on issuing the previous month's statement until you have a btc price signal /for the month after the statement/, and then ask BingoBoingo what the uyu/usd rate is on that day in order to provide a
ben_vulpes: we're talking tiny amounts of btc, but good process and understanding are important at the outset to forestall tears later, so bear with me
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-05#1839607 there is a fine point here, that this is notionally a "closing-of-the-month" value for the UYU
ben_vulpes: scuse me, fiat tangibles.
ben_vulpes: mod6: i did not update that row after using the wrong conversion factor for fiat liabilities on my first pass; thank you for spotting that
ben_vulpes: let me sum assets again.
ben_vulpes: can prorate depreciation if you'd like, i elected not to.
ben_vulpes: mod6: for what it's worth, i twice audited holdings while generating statements and they both came out correct. i suggest you use the statement generation process (combing through ledger/invoice output) to generate statements first, and audit against your personal accounts as a check.
ben_vulpes: anyways yes, if you want to audit the correctness of the statement against the value of cash held on behalf of pizarro, you will have to deduct your personal transactions from whatever account pizarro transactions flow in order to calculate a correct number.
ben_vulpes: mod6: nothing stops you from doing this
ben_vulpes: book truth lies in the statements; it is useful to verify that the cash line is correct but i would use it as a check, not the starting point from which to generate statements given a) payment timing b) personal use of accounts
ben_vulpes: ding ding ding, okay.
ben_vulpes: oh, this is summing accounts and pulling your change out of your deedbot balance?
ben_vulpes: what is that .08 you're subtracting out?
ben_vulpes: correct.
ben_vulpes: usd/uyu are fiat assets. get booked as tangibles. see the tangibles table.
ben_vulpes: no hang on, no. btc is the only cash.
ben_vulpes: more accurately it's cash + tangibles, and various fiats are tangible assets.
ben_vulpes: mod6: you may want to check your account history, BingoBoingo is also sitting on 0.2 of pizarro's btc
ben_vulpes: 30.500
ben_vulpes: check to see if it's the difference between our btc values of uyu
ben_vulpes: mod6: the UYU book value will indeed fluctuate based on what number you use for the usd/uyu exchange rate
ben_vulpes: why even stay on freenode?
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo mod6 asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/6dB0R/?raw=true << detailed walkthrough of how i've been generating reports for pizarro, along with trial report for july. will doublecheck numbers tomorrow and finalize.
ben_vulpes: great!
ben_vulpes: billing as soon as the price signal is set avoids further waffling over spread between when price signal is set and when bills go out. necessarily entails a move to billing in advance.
ben_vulpes: mod6: note he did not say that he was pissed, quite the contrary.
ben_vulpes: mod6: you're doing a great job, don't hang yourself over a term of art.
ben_vulpes: arrears are for services rendered already.
ben_vulpes: mod6: everything is kosher, trinque wants clarity on arrears vs advance. what you are doing is billing in advance.
ben_vulpes: mod6: no, what you have just done is bill for august service at the beginning of august.
ben_vulpes: trinque has it, mod6 is billing in advance now.
ben_vulpes: ("if so wtf that's a terrible use of money, and only subjects you to more orcery in your face")
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'tis why i ask
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: now that you have the buttbox do you plan to rent the cowork desk in perpetuity?
ben_vulpes: i miscalculated (under) the outgoing fiat total for pizarro last month by 186 USD; is the correct way to resolve that in this months statement to add an outgoing "adjustment" charge?
ben_vulpes: 2 unclosed tags on altavista.com/bugbounty
ben_vulpes: i seee deaaaad people!
ben_vulpes: heh hall of fame is what they give out to make the 750 bucks not sting so bad, huh?
ben_vulpes: douchebag: link to any of these famous halls?
ben_vulpes: the whole responsible disclosure threads went clear over your head
ben_vulpes: douchebag: and you think that pantsuit press coverage instead of hosing their boxen is the key to fame fortune and a seat in tmsr?
ben_vulpes: one can pay annually, but the discount is for quarterly up-front payments: 25%.
ben_vulpes: mod6: if invoice day is the 15th on a month, figure you can close the auction before then?
ben_vulpes: so mod6 when does the august auction close?
ben_vulpes: invoice date will be right after mod6 clears sale of btc and produces a price signal going forward
ben_vulpes: sacrifices the public verifiability of "all foundation funds in addrx" but i don't know that's so valuable; foundation addr could just be the proverbial tip hat with some change in it and the curious are directed to read statements
ben_vulpes: in unrelated http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-15#1656658 , ben_vulpes moving to texas to whip trinque's oarsmen, re-plumb engineroom, stand watch over gauges
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: awesome
ben_vulpes: mod6: discount for paying for a year in advance, there are also two fuckgoats in that machine
ben_vulpes: otherwise one implies timeless energy-dragon crystalline perfection of self, which is a falsehood.
ben_vulpes: then, sucked. now, suck less.
ben_vulpes: to point at your evolution as a human being over time, for one
ben_vulpes: "i was wrong, and the new piece lives at XXX" didn't pass muster or what
ben_vulpes: i'd dearly like to hear what arguments were so compelling as to turn you from the path of wifebeating, danielpbarron
ben_vulpes: oh neato, /me looks forward to reading
ben_vulpes: there is always "evil mode" if you don't want to spend a month programming your own chords up front trolololol
ben_vulpes: i don't even want to think about the code, compile, run loop outside of the emacs toiletron
ben_vulpes: lobbes: you have the thing running in a repl, right?
ben_vulpes: lobbes: that the outbox table has entries in it suggests that logbot-start-pg-thread was never called
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: thanks for teh ping
ben_vulpes rattles trinque's cage
ben_vulpes: esthlos: deedbot is right there, and a fine shared wallet
ben_vulpes: rip drive by shooting range
ben_vulpes: pathological fear of firearms doth not translate to safe firearm use
ben_vulpes: how much is lettuce?
ben_vulpes: anyways thanks for the input
ben_vulpes: human interaction outside of house is teh next item hue
ben_vulpes: she gardens, we're building a fence and working on the house.
ben_vulpes: childrearing can be a mindnumbing activity.
ben_vulpes: i entirely agree.
ben_vulpes: not atm, but mebbe down the road. would have to pay pretty damn well to offset costs of childcare and producing food for the family at home is the first reason to not.
ben_vulpes: anyways early results are coffee made for instead of by me, exercise taken under own steam, complete cessation of wandering into room and forgetting original cause ("i've tried to brush my teeth six times today"), and general lifting of tenor around the domus. much habit-building to do now.
ben_vulpes likely doomed to relocate to austin within the year
ben_vulpes: .05 perhaps, notes are across the room. delivered over an hour. asciilifeform doses are well calibrated at this point.
ben_vulpes: .5g/kg
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: har har har
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i can see how beatings could kick the brain into a new regime
ben_vulpes: the hot items are ketamine and psilocybin.
ben_vulpes: empirically, there are classes of chemicals that a) shut down the aforementioned dmn entirely for a short period and b) for reasons unexplained this dialing-down of the dmn can endure beyond the presence of these chemicals in the system (although perhaps not other chemicals that are produced in response, nobody knows anything beyond this point)
ben_vulpes: aha, shellshock
ben_vulpes: there's a megatonne of dross and snake oil to sift through, but another flake ive found is that the same mechanisms that one uses to process and put behind scary/traumatic/painful events can become the dominant mode of behavior if the individual's subjected to pain/abuse/shit-ass situations for long enough
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: aha, precisely!
ben_vulpes: the gist i get is that there's several physical regions that see high bloodflow when the mind is in an idle state that are correlated with "ruminantive"/"obsessive" thinking that are grouped by experts as "the default mode network"
ben_vulpes: not to derail, but i've learned quite a bit about what neurofolk call the "default mode network" over the past two weeks
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: looking up!
ben_vulpes: very explicit understanding between the men involved that we're far better off not sharing further than doing so.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-16#1834927 << i'd not distribute anything but trb patches to allcomers ~already~; if i made a useful thing i'd trivially share the source for it with l1 and rely on y'alls judgement as to whom to further share it with but i wouldn't concern myself with preventing leaks-to-kloinkers. beyond that, i share certain specific source with a subset of my own l1 and no further, with a
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: the only marginally complicated thing about statements is tracking the customer equity line and invoicing for the month-to-month customers, i will hand over my notes and assist you should you take the gig
ben_vulpes: for instance (attn asciilifeform, mod6, BingoBoingo), while reviewing books with mod6 recently i realized that i calculated s.mg's lease cost from the machine purchased from s.nsa (which we got bare, no storage), and not from the cost of the machine stuffed full of disks.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-14#1834420 << he is positioned to do a far better job than i have/can, and i believe that he will
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-14#1834379 << clickbank is fiat-only, and as for the "btc affiliate programs" http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828510
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-14#1834378 << yes, sold a small amount of btc via WU through this channel
ben_vulpes: sticky note over the "please shoot me in the face" triggers of shitstack
ben_vulpes: or, you know, whichever other ambulatory meat wad failed even basic imperial sekyoority protocol
ben_vulpes: https://eslint.org/blog/2018/07/postmortem-for-malicious-package-publishes << the entertaining part is how much work they put into disguising Kevin Partington's role as "the maintainer"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: sitting in customs with the ssds
ben_vulpes: !!down hobotrinque
ben_vulpes: !!up hobotrinque
ben_vulpes: ah, thanks trinque, figured i was s.o.l.
ben_vulpes: (from /usr/src/linux on a gentoo)
ben_vulpes: PeterL: i started from the output of 'make menuconfig' and pruned it over time
ben_vulpes: the asinine hoops.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: aha. asciilifeform did this machine ever get engentooated?
ben_vulpes: my mistake, then.
ben_vulpes: i was under the impression that you wanted to wait for a machine that you could cut eulora server over to in toto
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: bitte
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 5 evo 860 1tb disks
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo (mod6, asciilifeform): http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/DPsAP/?raw=true ssd tracking number
ben_vulpes: !!v D1A3E20B77A25846CE47D38CE998C323176774B2494712CC2ED240D510A922AE
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'm spending a bit of time keeping her from walking across a highway, if that counts as "walking on you"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if BingoBoingo can pick up the statements, that shrinks the delta; i've been flailing at transforming btc into amazon-compatible usd for the ssd shipment over the past week, he may be able to assist with that
ben_vulpes: i will do as right by pizarro as i can; i will continue to do what i can. i must deliver notice that pizarro needs to find additional help.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i will do my best to continue supporting pizarro, i won't diappear immediately. but i need to find someone to take over my responsibilities, and i'm going to be stretched very thin.
ben_vulpes: lords and ladies, june pizarro statement will be late; my wife is experiencing an all-consuming major depression that will take all of my attention going forward. i am working with mod6 and asciilifeform to ensure continuity at pizarro.
ben_vulpes: i suspect that the tidal wave of people who only understand poking buttons has drowned out the tiny sample of people who even know how to work ftp, and are being 'served' (as the main course, naturally) by facebook/wix etc
ben_vulpes: i am unable to distinguish advertising scamolade from the genuine article. i've reached out to an altcoin forum about advertising directly, and to some folks who pump ICOs to see about getting into their designers hosting pipelines, all to zero avail. not to mention that just looking at their existing websites makes me nauseous.
ben_vulpes: public. i have high hopes that the rockchip will be a thing people even want, but i'm clearly out of my depth on marketing to the great wide web.
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-6-27#388828 << i do not think that this line of business is worth pursuing further, and will tender my resignation for mismanagement if folks want it for the wasted time/effort. sifting the midden pile of the internet for people who worry about five dollars a month for hosting flies in the face of everything i've learned in #trilema about coming anywhere near the
ben_vulpes: during the day: sweat! during the night: sweat! but also stare at the ceiling
ben_vulpes: !!up mobile436523 hola
ben_vulpes: betting that the bill for the rockchip plant is going to hurt by the same token
ben_vulpes: i definitely don't know how to organize or drive sales, doing what i see needs doing, and what gets suggested to me, and float my own (bad) ideas. i'm in no way attached to "fiat things". because the exchange rate is eroding capitalization so brutally i thought it worthwhile to take another one on the chin in case this particular bad idea had some flake of merit in it.
ben_vulpes: and with clickbank not touching btc, 'a(nonymous)-ads' out for not being in the wot all these years, i'm back to the drawing board on where to buy ads/how to drive traffic
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo has made http://pizarroisp.net/shared-hosting/ and finessed the copy on the rest of the site; isn't a/b testing on landing pages what you do after putting cash down on a CPM/CPC/CPA program?
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo and lobbes have been working the hosting forums, i don't know what 'funnel' to put together other than get folks to sign into the #pizarro chat room and get them accounts
ben_vulpes: nevermind, i'll just read my kindleberger instead
ben_vulpes: if mircea_popescu would spare a lecture on the notion, ex the usg gassing constraint, i would read intently.
ben_vulpes: there is the "convertible note", which is how the shartupists do a similar thing.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: probably the jooblocker
ben_vulpes: illegal per usg "accredited investors" circus?
ben_vulpes: if a 'javier' name shows up and my attention is elsewhere, someone please up the fellow, i'd like to build bridges out of lbtc and he might be one
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: and immediately thereafter http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1825184
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: and this absolves of the need to hedge?
ben_vulpes: amusing, because they handle the intermediation themselves now
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: possibly stupid notion i had last night i'd like to float for your cfo-ly advice: with the exchange rate in the shitter, and the clear and present demand for fiat-denominated assets, how bad of an idea would it be to sell usd-denominated bonds? mod6 and asciilifeform thoughts also pls
ben_vulpes: https://www.behance.net/gallery/66684621/Ural-Amazon << perhaps a candidate for mircea_popescu 's artist hunt
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: can you buy amazon gift cards for cash in uruguay?
ben_vulpes: no graffiti even necessary.
ben_vulpes: add a new file for the manifest, create a vpatch, any subsequent vpatches that don't also edit manifest must be reground into mainline.
ben_vulpes: and not "reference" but "edit"
ben_vulpes: right that
ben_vulpes: manifest.txt $hash_prev $hash_curr ?
ben_vulpes: reference the manifest file in a later patch.
ben_vulpes: well now i have to look into this and figure out what drives the memory of getting stuck. very foggy memories suggest it was the pruning of spent outputs i was unsure of.
ben_vulpes: in other reports, btcfor.gifts does indeed work for small amounts
ben_vulpes: it's either there or regrind back to the genesis
ben_vulpes: s/after makefiles/in the makefiles patch/
ben_vulpes: well in theory, but in practice everything below makefiles already needs a regrind; aggression to request newblocks if none have been advertised recently; hash truncation atop that. so there's an opportunity to significantly reduce the amount of regrinding by introducing the manifest after the makefiles release and just regrinding 2 patches instead of the whole tree. unless i misread the situation.
ben_vulpes: mod6: my original q was in re why regrinding the whole tree is necessary instead of introducing the manifest now and using it going forward
ben_vulpes: it's a single file that collapses the tree into a pillar
ben_vulpes: "manifest capabilities" are baked into all V implementations
ben_vulpes: shouldn't matter in the slightest which v impl is used
ben_vulpes: mod6: focus on the manifest design, not the v implementation linked in trinque 's post
ben_vulpes: for the sake of exploring the state space; it is more desirable to regrind the whole tree rather than to introduce the manifest at this point and use it going forward?
ben_vulpes: and yeah, i could possibly put this time into humping trinque's wallet patches down the field
ben_vulpes: do you have any output selection scripts you keep around?
ben_vulpes: heh, last time i took a crack at *that* i got mired in finding unspent outputs with trb
ben_vulpes: lol that's kind of you
ben_vulpes: mod6: thanks
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: classic intro!
ben_vulpes: and to think i spent all that time poring over the boost docs
ben_vulpes: .size() fuckin hue
ben_vulpes: mod6: can i get a hand with some c++? i can't figure out how to iterate over the params array in sendtoaddresswithchange with boost or more naive iterators http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/7TlSw/?raw=true
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-6-26#388015 << continuing a thread from #p; i'm partway through reimplementing createtransaction such that it takes a change address; there's no reason to keep the individual transaction size limit, is there?
ben_vulpes: aaaawesome
ben_vulpes: dun dun dun
ben_vulpes: assuming that epony is this epony
ben_vulpes: epony: still haven't digested the epsilon appetite for nobodies? not obvious in your 11 days reading?
ben_vulpes: chance favors the prepared keyring or what was it.
ben_vulpes: consider, one day, you find yourself inspired to say something, you then go to register a key first? and then conversation gets derailed with "oh ho, look who finally registered a key" or alternatively "oh ho, who are you now?"
ben_vulpes: put another way, why *not* do it?
ben_vulpes: epony: what do you perceive the cost of registering a key to be?
ben_vulpes: !!up epony do you plan to register a key or what
ben_vulpes: sarcasm fails me in the face of cpp
ben_vulpes: noooooshit
ben_vulpes: how cool
ben_vulpes: am i thick or does nothing in the rpc take named args already?
ben_vulpes: yeah that fucking horror of ordered args
ben_vulpes: it would be much easier to make a sendmanywithchangeaddr than to rework both sendfrom and sendmany
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829108 << the alternative, which would be a smaller patch, is a "setchangeaddr" RPC function. i'm leery of changing the call signatures of sendfrom and sendmany, but doing so might be The Right Thing nevertheless
ben_vulpes: would it be sensible for the send* commands to eat a changeaddress argument?
ben_vulpes: how's that?
ben_vulpes: i'm out of time on this particular trbism, bbl
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: the bit i have yet to unravel is why it thinks there's change to generate
ben_vulpes: but shitting in other hand
ben_vulpes hoping for a garbokey
ben_vulpes: alternatively, recompile with useful need/have numbers in http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp?v=makefiles#0914
ben_vulpes: pretty confident that there's no dust at play, so i'll look for this min fee config
ben_vulpes: mod6: see that's why i asked for a spot check on the maths
ben_vulpes: bitcoinfees.earn.com suggests cutoff around ~50 sat/byte, but still, orthogonal
ben_vulpes: i wasn't aware that it was 50ksat/byte, no, but nevertheless trb shouldn't even be aware of that. orthogonal issue, isn't it?
ben_vulpes: this is trb
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 3467 is the value i get with that algo
ben_vulpes: next thing i'm going to try is manually walk the spend-to-self down by 100 satoshis until this trb shits a tx out and then look at what it produces
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