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(trilema) ben_vulpes: by whose metrics?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: me?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: upstanding?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what a conundrum.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <n6> might try openBSD after this.. << openbsd, an os that doesn't take much fucking with where bitcoin might actually build with vs gentoo where its known to build but the os cannot be built by mortals.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: notrly my problem
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "yes massa", in another age
(trilema) ben_vulpes: go in, be humble, pretend to be magnificently stupid and rule-followy while still somewhat savvy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i'm not a derpy bureaucrat, i eat derpy bureaucrats for lunch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: iono bb i ask questions i don't answer them
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gentle mumblings while i slide the 14-incher in
(trilema) ben_vulpes: half and halfs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: reacharounds
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in the sense that everything the shop does is customer service...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <trinque> oh yeah? go to the portland django girls << you've actually done this?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: does the character now have a spaceship?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ksh-sh-sh-sh-sh-shewm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ksh-sh-sh-sh-sh-shewm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: but do you have a v8 and the electrical system to drive the thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha i showed up in the middle of a gentoo quest i see
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: cascadianhacker.com/367850.pcap
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha, dulap.b-a.link
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hm i can't find the dulap dns record in search.bitcoin-assets.com
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey man i shit big
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i crapped out a 1.25 gig tcpdump :(
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: how long of a pcap run?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whoa okay yeah it werkz. i don't.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i are a dorp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sudo tcpdump?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: will post emergelog shortly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: tried that.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: guys i dont understand the first thing about computers
(trilema) ben_vulpes shrugs, runs emerge again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pretty sure.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: man tcpdump: werkz
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tcpdump: command not found
(trilema) ben_vulpes: welp i hosed this gentoo somehow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: dev-haskell/pcap?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: have yeah.
(trilema) ben_vulpes doesn't wedge frequently
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: any other things i should try before backing up my blockchain and resyncing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but w/e, your shop
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which is also neat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: that article doesn't highlight chain ancestry
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: side note, perhaps qntra'd run something about how noble nodes that have well-ordered blockchains can now be synced from?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: you didn't find anything interesting in that log of mine, did you?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think my route forward is to back up the existing blockchain, and resync from one of the noble nodes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: coracle wedged firmly at 367850.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: continue. The pain is terrible. With his tongue he mashes shit against the roof of his mouth and begins to chew, thickly now, the only sound in the room. . . .
(trilema) ben_vulpes: putrefaction of corpses, it was the sovereign smell of their first meeting, and her emblem. The turd slides into his mouth, down to his gullet. He gags, but bravely clamps his teeth shut. Bread that would only have floated in porcelain waters somewhere, unseen, untasted—risen now and baked in the bitter intestinal Oven to bread we know, bread that’s light as domestic comfort, secret as death in bed . . . Spasms in his throat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: with his lips, sucking on it tenderly, licking along its lower side . . . he is thinking, he’s sorry, he can’t help it, thinking of a Negro’s penis, yes he knows it abrogates part of the conditions set, but it will not be denied, the image of a brute African who will make him behave. . . . The stink of shit floods his nose, gathering him, surrounding. It is the smell of Passchendaele, of the Salient. Mixed with the mud, and the
(trilema) ben_vulpes: But thoughtful Pointsman, anticipating this, has been sending laxative pills with her meals. Now her intestines whine softly, and she feels shit begin to slide down and out. He kneels with his arms up holding the rich cape. A dark turd appears out the crevice, out of the absolute darkness between her white buttocks. He spreads his knees, awkwardly, until he can feel the leather of her boots. He leans forward to surround the hot turd
(trilema) ben_vulpes goes looking for shitposts
(trilema) ben_vulpes: love the shit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: swallow the shit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: embrace the shit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: embrace the webshit. iframe to signed thinger!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: continuing our windowing and emacs sojurn: https://github.com/ch11ng/exwm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field, mircea_popescu: didn't hanbot teach us about the dangers of html and gpg earlier?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: poor mod6 can't catch a break around here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.n6.1:e630ded4962e532d208a74d782ea9c37451b0858c31fb4280fd9f2c7ddce525e
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !rate n6 1 crusty blood
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !gettrust n6
(trilema) ben_vulpes: n6: d'you plan to get into the wot as well?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: n6: i understand that this is not a welcome message.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i recommend spinning up an aws gentoo instance. i've given up on macos support for this project.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're on your own brave soul
(trilema) ben_vulpes: n6: are you running on os x?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: n6 i have no idea, buddy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's always /patches.html...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: not that my browser will do anything with the patch files but download them.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: n6: all of my noodling on the topic resides at http://cascadianhacker.com/bitcoin/callgraph/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we're just exploring the possibility space here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: has warez?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: hell if i know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: meep. sorry.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: addrProxy = 127.0.0.1:9050
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fUseProxy = 0
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fMinimizeOnClose = 0
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fMinimizeToTray = 0
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nTransactionFee = 0
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fGenerateBitcoins = 0
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nFileVersion = 50400
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Loading wallet...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: block index 63562ms
(trilema) ben_vulpes: LoadBlockIndex(): hashBestChain=00000000000000000dfc height=367850
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Loading block index...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: addresses 26456ms
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Loaded 39823 addresses
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dbenv.open strLogDir=/home/ec2-user/.bitcoin/database strErrorFile=/home/ec2-user/.bitcoin/db.log
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Loading addresses...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Default data directory /home/ec2-user/.bitcoin
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Bitcoin version 0.5.4-beta
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what was the rollover patch called?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: let me restart the thing and grab the whole bootup log for inspection
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was hoping you'd contradict my own conclusions, but alas.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: my coracle's been wedged at 367850 since last night, even with the new db locks config. last 500 lines of debug.log: http://dpaste.com/1XB21DH.txt , please let me know if more would be useful
(trilema) ben_vulpes is not terrifically familiar with the git gpg integration
(trilema) ben_vulpes: interdasting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: git produces patches tho--
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <Adlai> ootb, signed patches. deeding signed patches from darcs is less work than doing so from git etc << how so? i've never touched darcs, the question comes from ignorance.
(trilema) ben_vulpes to have a brow soothed on a sweet busom
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have no answers, only this hill to watch.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shall we demand that of the pete_dushenskis and hanbots who wish to run their own hand-compiled foundation releases?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: yes, and that ought to be in every release << and this raises another question, shall mod6 and i now switch our build process to involve the rotor assemblage?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: helps, somewhat.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mine explode at the line that fails instead of airily carrying on as though nothing happened.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: instructions rot, are dependent on fallible humans. i write scripts.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha trinque's decisionmachine emerges!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-08-2015#1220389 << how long? my maxint_locks build appears to be chewing on this one, but i cannot actually tell.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: note that i haven't.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in the meantime, know that these few hours per day *i* do have might be put to better use than derping of dirs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll save my "eedjit points" for when i actually cannot resolve things myself.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, for another read through and another hack at "etc. as before" will resolve this.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no! for it is a merely a derpy directory structure issue that any sophomore can figure out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: was there, saw, comiserated
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tripped, fell, yelling in fury
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tendon-snipped by "use your noggin, eedjit" instructions
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now is when i admit that i've yet to successfully compile bitcoin with rotor
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the antecedents thing for one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a forest, not any particular tree
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'tis not the patches but the whole workflow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: don't care, can operate anything made by humans
(trilema) ben_vulpes would learn fossil
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dunno, have asked twice now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell jurov pretty please
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heck, it'd be a huge improvement if /patches.html rendered in chronological order
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am now imagining all sorts of dumb things like patches contributed in ml 'threads'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: and he does, regularly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu will likely run me through the "oh you're complaining here have some more of what irks you" chipper
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh don't mind me, i'm just grumpy about a frictive process
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i will be off to eat shortly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm not critiquing your patchstacking, note.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can we share a git repository yet?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i know this.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: patches and signatures in the repository itself. i'd not be averse.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: he can correct me if i'm wrong.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all i ever heard was "git=invitation for tard collaborators"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how much hell would i catch for sharing this with others?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: *i* have a repo. *it* has a *stable* and an *experimental* branch.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm just trying to operate within these crazy boundaries. i don't have any process improvements that i'm sure wouldn't get shot down in a new york second from asciilifeform.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "what, you want to automate the nuclear power plant?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "what, you want to automate this process that keeps the tards at bay?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "what's so hard about applying patches to your private repository?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "a real contributor would write all of their own tooling to solve this"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can just imagine the arguments
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !s testing in production
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but this is bitcoin, where since time immemorial people have been shipping code that can only ever be tested in production and then standing by in amazement claiming that "nobody could have predicted!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: from experience i know that the more difficult it is to test the software, the less likely anyone is to actually do so.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this makes for quite the testing nightmare. those interested in testing must reverse applied patches to your antecedent tip and then apply yours.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if you're up to date on the patching, submit a patch and note its antecedents.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: last release, i'd prefer. asciilifeform tends to stack his patches atop one another.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the fewer enforced constraints upon us, the more discipline with which we must act.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dvcs means we can all have a repo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: i'm still 1.5klol behind
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nevertheless.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: grand exaggeration.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "i don't know, let's test it during code review"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "does it work?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "here have a pull request"
(trilema) ben_vulpes is struck by the eerie resemblance to $dayjaeorb here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: broken << sure, yeah.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm all for barriers to entry here but this is a goddamn development obstacle course
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fucked it up somehow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i tried once
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "all testing" which is what we've seen to date.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: say it again.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not that i'm not infinitely indebted to you for unwedging my coracle but a hint of context'd be useful.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: here's your indication!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not even a note in correction about "lol sry first patch doesn't work"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so ofc i /try/ first patch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: second patch contained a link to mp's "dis wat i do, yo"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: started at ml, canonical information repository.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: plz for to slightly more detail in patchdescs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "let me see"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "does it work?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "here's a fix"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so i am to expect that patches arriving in the ML aren't even tested now?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's the one i'm using!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: did you find a reason why maxint wouldn't work, or is the second patch just using mircea_popescu's lock values for 'myzteeri0us reezuns'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the first, asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: maxint_locks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: however the build i made on 7-15 with the dumpblock patch boots from the same datadir.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myes, i agree.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: db.log, sir.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll try to nuke some state and come back with more useful information.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't even see it doing anything with strace
(trilema) ben_vulpes: has anyone else compiled the maxint patch and received db.log errors of "unable to join environment"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !s unable to join
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> increasingly, becoming a problem i nthe us, too. << tell me about it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: an surfeit of things to do and people to do them
(trilema) ben_vulpes is alive, barely
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what brings you /back/, jordandotdev?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "just clobber the lusers computer"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: s/problem/fun/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is the industry standard approach to the by-now-all-too-familiar-#b-a-bitcoin-dependency-problem
(trilema) ben_vulpes: evening, hanbot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "we can, therefore we must"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (but ascii - i /can/ mutate in place, therefore i /must/!)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: am reading, yes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this has come up before, and i had forgotten.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well how'd i know without putting myself up for the cane
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell phf http://paste.lisp.org/display/152828#1 << do forgive my ignorance, but what am i missing about converting the "command" into a string? (Adlai, asciilifeform, your eyes'd be appreciated too)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't see any usage of anysubscribed at least, asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: readable, renderable...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but i never did.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu did iirc, via gimp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gaze ye and weep
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <TheNewDeal> a new deal of sorts << i will give you points for this even if nobody else will
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> grats, i guess ? o.O << hyuuuuahahaha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-08-2015#1221623 << I made a point of hunting 1990's keys from universities to feed the Phuctor. Many were of short length. I though maybe they'd fall first and prime the beast, but... << bb you're awesome
(trilema) ben_vulpes off for a bit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whence the extra data? most of the relationships should live in foreign keys.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but transaction indexing etc should take *that* much space...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: 'toshi' creates its db from a rails schema iirc, no surprise that it's 10x blockchain size
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah jesus insight is a shitshow that much i know from pissing on the fence in question
(trilema) ben_vulpes kicked off its indexer this morning
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aside from "can't serve while indexing lol"?
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