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asciilifeform: or, also example, the popular image of black-clothed 'ninja'
asciilifeform: ^ prime example of 'fda grade-A' crank bait.
asciilifeform: incidentally, the 'baghdad battery' is an example of a subject that is virtually impossible to research on the net - on account of it being a favourite of ten thousand kinds of prolix idiot, and consequently shunned by most thinking folks
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there is also, for the impatient, a mostly-passable film
asciilifeform: now, observation: what kind of existing-computing-infrastructure project -is- worth participating in? (voluntarily, rather than because of starvation)
asciilifeform: or it's empty words.
asciilifeform: afaik there is still no www browser that correctly implements the whole pile of shit as an invariant
asciilifeform: reminds me of something i wrote once: a kind of simple 'lisp machine' in 'adobe flash' bytecode. never published, because realized that the whole idea is braindamaged and will encourage further braindamage if anyone were to use it
asciilifeform: i propose now a new and improved tax for usg: the -shitlicense-.
asciilifeform: 'river of meat' campaign ?
asciilifeform: because of sheer difference in complexity and cost.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: point is not that it is physically impossible to shoot a falling cone. but that it is a thermodynamic race that the rocket man - wins. and the death ray man - loses.
asciilifeform: see mircea_popescu's example of hollywood girl.
asciilifeform: until RuBisCo is fixed and you can grow five men's bread in a pot in the cellar under grow lamp.
asciilifeform: dead duck with one trump card - the food.
asciilifeform: the ss man is bold precisely because impunity.
asciilifeform: adlai: devils tempt me.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: working on the chipped paint on the bumper.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if it does, i can't see why you wouldn't have your own, terrahertz bus << because ice cream truck does not bring in the income to convert it to galactic ice cream empire.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what did happen was - the 'strong oxen' died. simply died. and this made micros look good, because alive looks better than dead.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: people didn't use to upgrade worth a shit << number crunching - existed. even if you're not involved with it, realize that it was original purpose of computer. it matters.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was trying to disagree, logically, with 'we can simply preserve in amber hardware from golden age and use that for everything'
asciilifeform: leaving for a moment aside my own piles of junk metal - folks embroiled in scientific computing are inevitably doomed to use modern hardware. they cannot, economically, freeze in time and live in 2008 (or whenever) for eternity.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: stupid << answer then. i requisitioned portable comp, could have asked for anything. should have asked for 486? with 640x480 lcd ?
asciilifeform: gentoo's the last man standing << not standing. hobbling on leg stump like the knight in 'monty python'.
asciilifeform: but one can see how a medic may be tempted
asciilifeform: that's simply 'upping the clock'
asciilifeform: how do you impedence-match neurons with a pill ?
asciilifeform: central nervous system impedance matching.
asciilifeform: incomplete - sure. it's more a set of engineering formulae than a total philosophy.
asciilifeform: mactardism is a very visual field. it doesn't account much for function << complicated. apple corp. is still running on fumes from a gigantic tank of back-when-everything-else-was-a-joke in a number of palpable ways. see also http://www.loper-os.org/?p=132
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is the deal breaker for me. i actually run the monitors at about 50% gamma. << i did get it down to 30% or so. would've liked even less - while retaining contrast. simply to avoid... baking.
asciilifeform: decimation: i'll go perelman before i talk to a computer.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: feedback via optic nerve is entirely reasonable << muscles were not made to twitch impotently in mid-air.
asciilifeform: PeterL: that keyboard was intended for 'glass tty' terminals and cannot be used with a modern pc compat. machine without some custom electronics
asciilifeform: gernika: 'microwriter' is not so great today. no easy means of getting it to throw output to a computer in real time.
asciilifeform: and at this point i don't even care if i'm simply habituated to springs or if there is something 'intrinsic and natural' about spring clicks. i refuse to do without them.
asciilifeform: able that they watched everybody all the time. but at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You have to live - did live, from habit that became instinct - in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized.'
asciilifeform: serious technical question. how exactly might one improve on a 1890s rifle in the given application (almost never fired; when fired - typically, at large land animals (hence, want full sized cartridge); extreme cold; etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, other users of 'opera' - which one do you use? the 1990s close-source turd? or the 'new, impr0v3d' idiocy that uses 'webkit' (chrome) rendering engine ?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: they were (or claimed to be) distilling bit flip errors from sram at room temperature
asciilifeform: with no flashable components of any kind whatsoever therein.
asciilifeform: or rather - it is a joke. but on the chumps.
asciilifeform: (the ultimate logical conclusion of this idea would be the hypothetical thing that is so far the only serious improvement on 'bitcoin fundamentals' i've been able to come up with. that is, 'rectothermcoin')
asciilifeform: if you are pwned while using 'brainwallets', simply shows that your brain is defective
asciilifeform: why not simply a keyboard jack.
asciilifeform: one can paint the ww2 tank dredged up from the swamp all kinds of nice colours
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, whoever else: after some hours and a restart the thing jumped << if it needs hand-holding for normal operation (including blockchain sync) it isn't a usable gizmo.
asciilifeform: lead crystal << simply a less-leaded version of the (formerly) ubiquitous glass from which crt is made.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: frost mage, at your fingertips. all you need is a compressor << notably, as depicted in the liquid helium scene in 'stand on zanzibar'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what he did was snip out most of the amp. at the time, most tv owners lived in or very near cities, with powerful transmitters. hence - worked. mostly.
asciilifeform: variant on the ancient 'things should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler'
asciilifeform: cheapo least effort << think this way: there are not many chumpnets that can be sliced into N slices (one for each of us, 24/7) and still be of any use.
asciilifeform: police, incidentally, are the accomplished masters of 'need to know'
asciilifeform: '"Hands up, don't shoot" #OccupyStamp ” the one girl on her phone at the table, different beliefs?'
asciilifeform: where's that mircea_popescu article re: how the average plebe has no business pretending to run a computer.
asciilifeform: this is why the only extant computerized gadgets that aren't total crud were built from, or virtually from, the ground up.
asciilifeform: 'As long as genetic modification is being done primarily by big agribusiness, plants will be altered to make them more compatible with central control of the food supply.'
asciilifeform: 'I’d like to see one expression coined by the poker writer Matt Matros become common parlance, since it applies far more widely than only to poker. An “alien problem” means some problem that might be fun, interesting and educational to analyze, and it would be really important to know the solution if you ever found yourself in that situation, but the point is that you shouldn't even be having that problem in the first pl
asciilifeform: have to understand, jet fighter is not really a complete machine. it is a tentacle of the larger industrial slave empire which produced and employed it.
asciilifeform: adlai: because that is the language in which fundamental research in computing continued, while in the west - died in 1950s.
asciilifeform: *hide emptied of meat
asciilifeform: only when its teat is empty of milk, and then the hide is emptied of skin, can there be any question of 'letting it go.' and even then, someone might like to tan your hide.
asciilifeform: or do they simply 'go gently into that good night' somehow
asciilifeform: anyone who thinks this is a 'popular grievance' thing - how many u.s. folks were fucked over in real estate, other chumpatrons? how many of the perpetrators burned?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not the slut part, the nepotism and resulting umbrella over incompetent fucktoy subordinates
asciilifeform: point was much simpler. re: why radio in port.
asciilifeform: just example.
asciilifeform: would be interesting to take one of these radios and look for correlation between, say, amplitude - or carrier freq drift - and input audio
asciilifeform: 'Of course, if the school ever found out that he had given Lissa his own password, it would be curtains for both of them as students, regardless of what she had used it for. School policy was that any interference with their means of monitoring students' computer use was grounds for disciplinary action. It didn't matter whether you did anything harmful—the offense was making it hard for the administrators to check on you. Th
asciilifeform: the 'and then lied' thing (as reflected in earlier quote) is used to add a zero or two to the 'potential prison time' and make the chump play ball ('plea bargain')
asciilifeform: only reason usg still bothers with juries, is that they can generally be relied on to play ball, and this state of affairs is reasonably simple to maintain.
asciilifeform: 'Compared to Stuxnet, the state-sponsored malware whose creators have never been confirmed, the recently-discovered trojan...' << wtf. confirmed as daylight.
asciilifeform: but 'orcs suck and should simply kill themselves instead of sullying the planet with their stench' is not a historical argument.
asciilifeform: lol, that my drunken compatriots could not fend for themselves, is as obvious as gravity.
asciilifeform: this always bugged me. somehow folks think that starving to death under czar was like dying of co poisoning in a mercedes to the tune of classical music, but starving in ussr is starving in a dumpster with broken glass.
asciilifeform: jurov: aha, shrinking. but you implied that this is a problem.
asciilifeform: what 20th c. mega-empire didn't boast of 'science'? it's nearly obligatory, like the christianity of european kings
asciilifeform: i'd include stallman - but my picture of 'graybeard' is about having experienced 'real computing'
asciilifeform: early encounter with computer is not necessarily good for your mind.
asciilifeform: it was simply against 'knock'im over the head and take pistol' thing.
asciilifeform: the 'police brutality' crap is orchestrated by u.s. lizard media. ergo it is simply a prelude to a 'sudden, brilliant, hope, change 11!111!!' 'solution' - a national gendarmerie. think 'dhs' but this time 'for real.'
asciilifeform: undata: for 'everyday engineering' definition of 'get away' - sure. who, exactly, lives in usa that usg cannot kill 'with impunity' ?
asciilifeform: undata: the one that can clobber the others (should there be any) 'with impunity' is called 'sovereign'.
asciilifeform: undata: pick a square metre of planet, and you can come up with one or more parties that 'can kill with impunity' there.
asciilifeform: 'cops shouldn't kill with impunity', parsed through intellectual honesty filter, simply implies 'a different set of bandits should be able to kill with impunity, including possibly killing original set'
asciilifeform: the state, by definition, 'kills with impunity'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you could make a deal where you prepaid consumption at fixed rate. so i did << and then how many tons of aluminum did you refine? or wasted!
asciilifeform: decimation: in point of fact, you can get by without either tcp or the proverbial 'bad reimplementation' of it
asciilifeform: i'm going to confess now that i implemented this...
asciilifeform: take your pick of a sufficiently 'heavy' problem (not necessarily deeply-mathematical, however) and, carry it on long enough, will realize - that we don't really 'have computers.'
asciilifeform: actually i started out thinking about something quite else, when realized that we can't build a computer.
asciilifeform: ever set up local node to pump blockchain from exclusively ?
asciilifeform: even today, the (rare) malware written in asm, once you get past the obfuscations, is easier to make sense of than conventional (compiled) turds
asciilifeform: all compliant intel clones support another mode, not mentioned in manuals, which became known as 'unreal mode'
asciilifeform: decimation: not simply 'known turds,' but the -behaviour- of him & followers.
asciilifeform: elementary. consider simple vitamin deficiencies. easy pill - no difference.
asciilifeform: usg cycle goes approximately: 1) produce anal orifice (entirely plausibly-deniable bugpharms like microshit, with pedigrees going back into the sands of time, and impossibility of attribution or meaningful study - easy)
asciilifeform: hell, some apparently clever folks (taleb?) can't even be bothered to dredge up a computer, or figure out 'irc' - so, no amount of free voice will help.
asciilifeform: like 'stable' governments, or marriages, the stability spoken of here is comparative.
asciilifeform: (model 'dx' with the rev. 2 black chassis, if anyone wants to compare notes)
asciilifeform has somewhat perverse senses. for example, 'amazon kindle' is fairly loud to him when flipping pages.
asciilifeform: not involving computer.
asciilifeform: and i seriously don't get people who suggest 'use tv'. are they using computer with tv? if not, why not? and why eager to suggest to others.
asciilifeform: decimation: i'd love to replace all 4 with trinitrons. but gave up after the umpteenth 'yes i promise it isn't burnt' and faded tube.
asciilifeform: moolah << chumpatronium
asciilifeform: decimation: this one wasn't self-comprehension or any 'fancy' magic of the sort. just elementary question of 'does x compiler build with self'
asciilifeform: decimation: 'sbcl' is a compiler. (a very spiffy compiler, that you can generally use in precisely the same ways folks used primitive interpreter-only lisps, but still a compiler.)
asciilifeform: (for n00bz: in honest olympiad, the puzzles are either same for all players, or come out of a hat)
asciilifeform: in final rounds of an olympiad, judges select problems for the players individually
asciilifeform: that is difficult to find. Using problems with a simple solution protected the administration from extra complaints and appeals.'
asciilifeform: 'This is a special collection of problems that were given to select applicants during oral entrance exams to the math department of Moscow State University. These problems were designed to prevent Jewish people and other undesirables from getting a passing grade. Among problems that were used by the department to blackball unwanted candidate students, these problems are distinguished by having a simple solution
asciilifeform: variation on ancient olympiad problem.
asciilifeform: well, for some value of 'fly' that is not simply an orbit
asciilifeform imagines that someone, somewhere, actually attempts his puzzles
asciilifeform: sometimes, however, the gizmo cares how implemented. (consider the case of the airplane, which stubbornly resisted being powered by steam engine on account of the latter's poor power-to-mass ratio. etc)
asciilifeform: starts out with innocent symptoms like this, end up like yours truly, ranting at hapless strangers about trinary logic made of muller's gates.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: text editor experiment << when you build 'emacs', you can select 'use mmap for buffers' as a compile flag.
asciilifeform: at any rate, the reason there is not a pandaemonium of attempted republikflucht from usa, and corresponding whack-a-mole game by usg, is very simple -
asciilifeform: 'longcat is long,' insolvent empire is insolvent.
asciilifeform: except it was impalement.
asciilifeform: e.g., xilinx wants you to prototype on their fpga, and then offers massively-discounted asic process which simply consists of their fpga die plus custom metallization layer.
asciilifeform: if you go and actually try to implement, e.g., ddr2 controller, using generic logic (yes, i did, and it fit) you quickly discover that it is useless.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aside from examples like 'emacs', most of what is actually useful in 'open source' was written in other times, other walls, pre-dating it
asciilifeform: so many compact learner friendly machines to choose from that period! why BingoBoingo went with the one covered in gui menstruade...?
asciilifeform: devthedev: find nearest scrapyard, under the cover of night - steal an actual computer
asciilifeform: cars are 'stolen' (well, officially held for ransom) using an also compact towing crane, where i live
asciilifeform: mpoepr on retainer? neato.
asciilifeform: all that remains is to place it aboard a sub and pump seawater for cold loop.
asciilifeform: also note the virtually absent transmission losses (implicit in the customery power plant + distant miners scheme)
asciilifeform: (just as surely part of one or more chumpnets)
asciilifeform: and yes, basic homo chumpneticus turns his box off when sleeps.
asciilifeform: them there's chumpamatic.
asciilifeform: not sure about now, but when folks used to mine 'litecoin' via chumpnet, one could go to various pool sites and see hash rate graphs
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'fine-grained' chumpnet rental is rare, because anyone with half a brain, when allowed to install $turd on a chump's box, can make it semi-permanent
asciilifeform: which is, in most cases, impractical.
asciilifeform: 'petertodd jrayhawk: it's interesting how more than one tor dev I've spoken too firmly believes Werner Koch - gnupg maintainer - is a NSA/BND plant with the goal of ensuring gnupg remains unusable (e.g. strong opposition to any attempt to make it into a library)'
asciilifeform: 6:36 AM it's rather surprising and counter-intuitive but it appears that (for now) the system is working as designed. or if there are compromises, they're so rare that they aren't worthy of mention in the NSA docs.'
asciilifeform: 'hearn: well i assumed that too when the docs first leaked last year. i kept waiting for the slide shows about the compromised CA's.
asciilifeform: it happened as the very complex roman religions were brought closer to the understanding of teh plebs << goldsmith's 'great u-turn' had a superb if very compact intro to this process: http://www.edwardgoldsmith.org/28
asciilifeform: or was that simply re: collapse? in which case, aye
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: distinction is not unimportant, no? flies-cutlets separation.
asciilifeform: ^ mr y's mega-chumpatron
asciilifeform: as for why they don't include gut bacterium, while it seems like a logical implication - the core idiocy is something once called 'inner light doctrine', where 'humans' (as defined situationally, by the sc4mz0r, but generally rolling up all shaved apes) are 'special'
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu with regard to the 'abuse of statistical devices' outlined in note iii, the accomplished master of the art is a fellow named yudkowsky (search #b-a log). he isn't an idiot, bastard knows exactly what he's doing, and his cult is a veritable vacuum trap for thinking folks
asciilifeform: http://gizmodo.com/5895555/i-have-a-magnet-implant-in-my-finger << only genuinely interesting example i can recall
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu i was once astonished to learn that the 'one is overwhelmingly likely to be a gut bacterium' argument outlined in note iii of your article is not taught to modern children as a fallacy, but as a moral (!) imperative, called 'rawlsian veil of ignorance.'
asciilifeform: 'hardfork wishlist' - 'Improved signature types to allow for partial malleability of outputs. (e.g. make it easier to add a fee onto someone else's transaction, or to take fees from a transaction without outputs set aside for that purpose)' << mega-lol!
asciilifeform: mostly small-time chumps there
asciilifeform: above article (fairly well-known) omits one important role
asciilifeform: implication - must carefully repel irrelevant customers
asciilifeform: someone is simply hardware-trolling ?
asciilifeform: ^ suggested as name for next big silicon valley chumpfest
asciilifeform not a shrink, cannot answer. but will point the interested reader to the - not really secret - chronicles of german camp inmates collecting scraps of ss uniforms, role playing the roles of jailers, other manifestations of syndrome
asciilifeform: it will be a 'temporary relocation center' to them, even when the shower heads start hissing out the zyklon.
asciilifeform: at this point, quite a few people will not believe, e.g., the camps, even when they end up inside.
asciilifeform: this was accomplished. but not with chickens.
asciilifeform: undata: note, for instance, the reaction to the (ancient - 1970s) leak of u.s. having (empty) concentration camps, complete with concertina wire, waiting
asciilifeform: undata: one hypothesis is that the average chump has a limited width 'revelation register' that easily overflows.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: understand the subtle but important distinction. they will have you believe that it -is- meat.
asciilifeform: presto! turds are now 'a type of cylindrical' and by implication will stand in for sausage
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i once tried to write a tale of perverse world of differing chiralities for male and female, and implications thereof
asciilifeform: at the very least, perfectly good chumpatronic engineering.
asciilifeform: compare with, e.g., 'gribble auth'
asciilifeform: if you simply gather enough filth in one place
asciilifeform: kerberos << among the many deliberately complex edifices of the u.s. department of wintel.
asciilifeform: debian compassion << cthonian horrors of the eldritch depths.
asciilifeform: what must it be like to be, literally, employed as human tape deck ?
asciilifeform: competent leadership in one particular lab - yes
asciilifeform: empire can commit any kind of elaborate crimes without leader. only thing it can't do without leader is - survive in long term
asciilifeform: at any rate, physical 'hitlers' are not a necessary hypothesis. ussr was perfectly capable of plugging a poor sod on a london bridge with poison umbrella, without competent leadership
asciilifeform: employer.
asciilifeform: fact is, we have numerous historic examples of folks who did first-class creative work while prisoners.
asciilifeform: (for folks who want a more 'upbeat' figure as an example for a leaf of living matter inside bureaucratic garbage compactor - try korolev.)
asciilifeform: but i (or anyone else here) could sit for a week, coughing up examples of this, and not come close to running out
asciilifeform: one example, randomly pulled out of a hat, is 'solid state hard disk'
asciilifeform: well, the real boojum (as described, for example, by mircea_popescu) is that the optimization folks did not put the task as 'build $widget using less steel, rubber, hours of slave' but 'build $widget more bezzleprofitably' which usually leads to 'build $widget-prime and try to pass off to chumpers as genuine $widget'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: reminiscent of bucky fuller's dumps
asciilifeform: vs. the chumpers
asciilifeform: i, for example, don't even know what he looks like
asciilifeform: and how many of these chumps are chumped in a lecture hall, and not with paper?
asciilifeform: ergo i need to be chumped with paper
asciilifeform: if question specifically concerns 'animal magnetism' - difficult to answer. most of the chumpatronic work involved, i doubt would win from this stratagem. i, for instance, have never (to my knowledge) been within musket distance of a live cryptographer (of whatever variety)
asciilifeform: not being one of the designated chumps in question, i'd ask for a subverted greybeard. but i am not a doctor of chumpatronics, and may be naive here.
asciilifeform: depends on the designated chumps, no?
asciilifeform: it is by no means a complete picture, but gives the general idea.
asciilifeform: native os was implemented in 'zetalisp', a symbolics-proprietary predecessor of modern common lisp, yes.
asciilifeform: i cannot say for certain what these things would 'weigh' on such a machine, but can definitely bet that they would weigh considerably less (in terms of code complexity or sheer physical space) than on modern arch.
asciilifeform: if you did computer-anything engineering in school, you probably remember 'mips'
asciilifeform: x86 is a cisc (interestingly, the internals of modern x86 compatibles are pure risc, with emulation layer for the ancient crud baked on)
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: name a 'cisc' (that is, 'complete', or, in more practical terms, optimized for hand-written asm that is a minimum of pain to write -and- read) chip designed in recent years.
asciilifeform: incidentally this is why a correctly-implemented blockchain db is isomorphic to a 'journalling' file system.
asciilifeform was not in treblinka, knows only what the contemporaries saw fit to write down
asciilifeform: 'Physicist Steven Jones, who first pointed to the use of thermite in the destruction of the two towers had to agree to having his university buy out his tenure or his university was faced with losing all federal financing.' << example from herr orlov. ( http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/09/911-after-13-years.html )
asciilifeform: nah, just incomplete
asciilifeform: fiddybucks buys you all the components, in a manageable pocket size.
asciilifeform: the 'polygraph', as the name implies, combines several instruments (eeg, ekg, conductometer)
asciilifeform: ^ example of what remains.
asciilifeform: ^ example
asciilifeform: 'source based distro,' classically, is when nothing (other than bootstrap compiler & kernel, thomson says hello) gets on the box without being built there.
asciilifeform: he is/was a finnish emigre, working as a comp sci prof in canada. was hounded off the net by 'outraged mass' for moldbuggery.
asciilifeform: complete with chart printer.
asciilifeform: and nobody wants the crud - computerized eeg is pocket-sized
asciilifeform: decimation: however, there is perhaps a million people in usa who, if they were to suffer some form of 'brain parasite', could easily jump the border and live this way on the capital they could smuggle out.
asciilifeform: if it were to implode, the shills will be placed into similar roles elsewhere
asciilifeform: decimation: but that he is not actually free to, for example, do a 'decent' bitcoind
asciilifeform: implied divisions by zero - intentional.
asciilifeform: for example, gavin, a paid shill, has no free time (he is not his own man)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gentoo << complicated. the lead dev surrendered to microshit (literally) some years ago, and it's been run by a skeleton crew ever since, with numerous high-profile catastrophes (of the 'your machine is suddenly rendered unusable by a perfectly innocent-looking action' variety) -- but there is -no- adequate replacement to this day.
asciilifeform: decimation: the example i usually offer is n. taleb
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do not exactly believe b-a is intended for the workaday people. << do elaborate. should all of us but you & kako pack up? or some other thing implied
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo is trying to retain some dignity (has not yet fallen into programming, for example)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: but simply happens to be when my box exhausted ram from leakage and began to fandango on the db.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's not a bad theory in any sense. got any policy proposals based on it ? << beyond 'open a physical empire where we can all defect to and die like men in the janissary corps' - no useful idea.
asciilifeform: example,
asciilifeform: i'd imagine i'm not the only one who considers 'success' as implying a total exit from 'don't work a day - don't eat a day'
asciilifeform: impossible.'
asciilifeform: autocomplete << lol!
asciilifeform: ot even the relationship which is implied in an ordinary lie. I saw great battles reported where there had been no fighting, and complete silence where hundreds of men had been killed. I saw troops who had fought bravely denounced as cowards and traitors, and others who had never seen a shot fired hailed as the heroes of imaginary victories; and I saw newspapers in London retailing these lies and eager intellec
asciilifeform: decimation: except that none of this conceptually even applies to a computer program.
asciilifeform: bad example, not because of greybeards, but because of demented archaeologists like yours truly
asciilifeform: 'Knowledge can be lost. Sometimes this is perfectly reasonable: No one knows how to kill and skin a mastodon anymore, for obvious reasons. And cultures frequently lose knowledge as they evolve past it--you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who could write a computer program on punch-cards today. But there is something worrisome about misplacing knowledge that is only a generation or two old. And this happens mor
asciilifeform: aha like the u.s. hbomb tamper foam.
asciilifeform: state that can't keep a secret << incidentally, notice that no complete 'dump' for ru nuke of whatever variety ever hit the net.
asciilifeform: what if herr frein spent his life contemplating how to rewire his fusor
asciilifeform: ionized atmosphere with laser, pump current through
asciilifeform: incidentally, if 'cheap and compact source of infinite energy', the 'plasma rifle' from 'doom', etc. can exist.
asciilifeform: incidentally, for implications of working fusion, straight to:
asciilifeform: but still improvement.
asciilifeform: joecool: i don't believe that the current participants in turdatron really agree on what the ultimate end product should be (e.g., something like what conformal has, or a hardware implementation - what i want, etc.) but we do agree that a reference implementation is necessary before it even makes sense to ask the question.
asciilifeform: conformal corp.'s reimplementation exists, for instance.
asciilifeform: the most important thing is that each and every change, however slight, is attributable.
asciilifeform: lol re: linux kernel as an example to follow
asciilifeform: and requires some complicated pattern-matcher to apply
asciilifeform: but the argument here is not about sabotaged ken-thompson-style tools. but about tools that foster intellectual atrophy.
asciilifeform: and whiners who complain that this is arduous, unreasonable, etc. - are shown where the door is.
asciilifeform: it's bad enough that we are dealing with a turd that is quite impossible to fully understand in the original.
asciilifeform: others can disagree, and sign the empire state building.
asciilifeform: undata: well, to the extent that any version control system can be cudgelled into coughing up output compatible with 'patch' - then yes.
asciilifeform: how much of what is on your computer right now, actually -does- something ?
asciilifeform: (if you have a solution, geneticists would love to hear about it. 'sequence alignment' is ruinously expensive, in computational terms.)
asciilifeform: Adlai: does it, for example, avoid being fooled by line number counts?
asciilifeform: oh noez, competing chumpatrons, must d3str0y
asciilifeform: 'the map is not the territory, but you can't fold up the territory and fit it in your glove compartment.'

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