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asciilifeform: mats: ~pumped~
asciilifeform: decimation: who 'doesn't care what it costs' - uses pumped hydro
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: musk is different in the sense of not running the usual 'populist' chumpatron
asciilifeform: entirely plausible that mr spamphone likes buying surplus.
asciilifeform: 'I know there has been concerning news about the NSA overstepping its bounds regarding data collection and the US government's lack of action. I have worked closely with many government officials. What may appear as an erosion of our constitutional rights, are actually programs critically important to the safety of our country. Without the NSA data gathering programs, there would have already been a "Cyber 9/11". Unfortunately
asciilifeform: 'Mr. Haba was Founder and Chief Technology Officer of Telco 214, an emerging leader in the international voice market that was successful in winning large market share from AT&T, MCI and Sprint. Mr. Haba began his career at Symetrics Industries, a publicly traded defense communications and computer telephony integrator....'
ascii_field: (fairly arbitrary example)
asciilifeform: (the only public example i know of)
asciilifeform: i suppose this is when i point out that symbolics co. employed a surprising (to modern reader) number of gurlz
asciilifeform: not empty. full of nonstd crud a la 'darkwallet'
asciilifeform: 'The charges announced today are part of a coordinated effort by a coalition of law enforcement authorities from 20 nations to charge, arrest or search 70 Darkode members and associates around the world. The nations comprising the coalition include Australia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cyprus, Croatia, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Israel, Latvia, Macedonia, Nigeria, Romania, Serbia, Sweden, th
ascii_field: ditto unlimited mempool
ascii_field: holy fuck is the mempool full of boiling liquid shit right now.
asciilifeform: '"I was not happy that we had to find this way," said Locke. "CRD employs 10 to 15 people, and they make a good, well-designed product. But we had to follow the rules." Issues around the Confederate battle flag did not enter into the Planning Board's deliberations, said Locke, adding in an email that "this is a very successful business that outgrew its existing location and permitting."'
asciilifeform is marvelling at the sheer winblowzistic retardation of having to restart anything to change a simple knob
asciilifeform: anybody got a raw bitwise dump of that block handy ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202343 << this contemptible bit of usgism suggests that one ought to use modern crypto in the camera. that would make it quite impossible for the enemy to determine that it had taken a photo of anyone in particular - or for that matter how many; or for it to disgorge any bits whatsoever to an enemy probe.
asciilifeform: what next, complain about the blue traffic lights in japan ?
asciilifeform: as in the 'berlin wall' example above.
asciilifeform: like any industrial-strength chumpamatic, usg-history typically leads you to 'conclude'... the very premises of the syllogism behind the conclusions.
asciilifeform: if anything, the turdalicious computer systems we have today are a consequence of cheap labour.
asciilifeform: a toolchain that works ~without even a part per billion of microshit~ is pure plutonium, plain and simple
asciilifeform: (for completeness, i will note that i will not maintain code mit undergrads wrote in '89. or '99. or '09. or at all.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hmmpppfffmf!
asciilifeform: rather than for the 2 percent off chumpatronics
asciilifeform: mats: i kinda wonder how many subscribers are paying not to see the lumpens
asciilifeform: but point taken. there is actually a mega-lulzy ru film about a captive ru derp used as 'computermaster' by chechens
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has it! lumpens.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was largely empty, iirc !
asciilifeform: 'server' mobos have an annoying habit of including 'remote management' crapolade, however. caveat emptor.
ascii_field: nubbins`: 'How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. but at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You have to live - did live, from habit that became instinct - in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard...'
ascii_field: thestringpuller: but it is also true that most nodes presently have sufficient physical ram to hold the mempool
ascii_field: (and approximately same complexity)
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: briefly describe hypothesis re: why an evict-oldest mempool node would end up isolated
ascii_field: this is not a bad scheme, but - complicated
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: was trying to point out that we need a mechanism to manage mempool on the node. just simple oldest-evict for starters.
ascii_field: we have two of these left: the block index (discussed previously, 300 byte per blk) and the mempool.
ascii_field: fluffypony: nah he wants to give mp his money
ascii_field: fromphuctor: the answer is no. any other questions ?
ascii_field: then you are officially fucked and i officially have zero sympathy.
ascii_field: fromphuctor: did you upload your key to sks? or did it live under your pillow, and you are telling us that someone stole it and uploaded it ?
ascii_field: fromphuctor: what other information? the only things visible are what is in your key - the name and email addr entered when it was generated.
ascii_field: fromphuctor: we even have a list of folks for whom some hooligan submitted entirely fraudulent (as far as we can tell) keys. nothing can be done about this.
asciilifeform: !up fromphuctor
ascii_field: fromphuctor: realize that anyone can submit anything to sks
ascii_field: fromphuctor: afaik nothing has ever disappeared from sks.
asciilifeform: pogo is going nowhere until we have a mempool limit mechanism.
asciilifeform: in other nyooz, just the mempool on the s.nsa node is a GB and a half
asciilifeform: mod6: also worth comparing objdump output
asciilifeform: mod6: hexdump -C, then diff
asciilifeform: i also have a habit, of compulsively re-reading own patches
asciilifeform: compared to most similar boards, it is practically empty
asciilifeform: doesn't imply endorsement
asciilifeform had actual static, in 'stator', compare with the elf attached there
asciilifeform: in other 'news', microshit has bitcoin nodes on its campus
ascii_field: no more and no less than the example here.
ascii_field: or the sheer militant idiocy in proclaiming the other exits innocent (by implication)
ascii_field: the rest will only contemplate 'caring' when the dildoes stop buzzing
ascii_field: on top of this, 4) from multiple competing vendors
ascii_field: slightly costlier than pogo; comparable specs; would need a mechanical adapter for usb drive
ascii_field: and is price-comparable with pogo
ascii_field: not 5 years from now when the fakes are stamped out by the millions.
ascii_field: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/MXCHIP/MICO/master/MICO/Library/RF%20driver/wlan_firmware.c << and ~here~ is an example of what chinese consider to be 'open source'.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-07-2015#1198964 << the 'open source chinese phones' thing is a complete snorefest. wake me up when street urchins can fab even a, e.g., z80
ascii_field: 'it appears that his hand was forced – legally – complete with gags and destruction orders.'
ascii_field: would be neat if i could learn this from looking at timestamps
ascii_field: i.e. one more thing i'd have to reimplement for msdos or bare-metal port.
ascii_field: i want log on mine, for example.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: thing is, i like cutting code. but i dislike inserting dependencies on complicated unixisms like autorotators.
asciilifeform: (is this standardized and implicit ?)
asciilifeform: but i never got into mmporgs at all. what sort of game is it where player is not the hero!
ascii_modem: back to the mexican fella - in a very important sense he is more dependent on usg staying in business than a u.s. post office director
ascii_modem: i would personally be surprised to learn that anyone bothered to implement multicpu ver prior to 950+kb blocks
ascii_modem: in this example
ascii_modem: try example
ascii_modem: decimation: there is no reason to reimplement bash loop, etc in something like blkcut
ascii_modem: i wanted to explain that i don't evaluate softs in comparison with microshit. just as i don't evaluate meal by comparing with a tall glass of liquishit.
ascii_modem: which compiler
ascii_field: decimation et al: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/fud-halt-all-trading-very-important-info-inside-42.246888 << one of the few search hits for that 19VAb9zAhpWLaWfEuqw9HXup2zaNoNPPyE
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: pretty transparent that the derps ~want~ to tempt the easily tempted
ascii_field: decimation: parallelizing the sig verify thing would be pretty simple
ascii_field: i'm not sure how a compiler which produces a 300KB 'hello world' and 800KB 'virus' could evoke anything but derisive laughter
ascii_field: trinque: even the 'project olympic games' team at nsa seems to use 100% vs
ascii_field: i'm still floored by all the drooling morons who think that you need to build code under microshit's compiler, when writing turdware
ascii_field: ^ namely, the fact that we even think about 'moles' is indicative of how low the entire computing thing has fallen
ascii_field: on one side of the coin - someone to vouch for them, prevent laugh-out-of-the-room; on other - to avoid 'having problems', wash the money, handle employees who might like to go free-agent
ascii_field: nothing really remarkable in the turd, just a 'complete set'
ascii_field: and not enough rubidium lamps for every pc
ascii_field: were sympathetic to the idea. but nothing came of it, as nothing could have
ascii_field: trinque: important to remember that these folks are just as powerless to do constructive things as they are to do serious damage
asciilifeform: anybody's guess whether gps will decay from sat attrition (as glonas did in the 'roarin' 90s' ru) before usa implodes, civilian aviation on its territory Officially ends, and public freebie is turned off
asciilifeform: 'The talk concludes with a first-hand description of Project GREAT, perhaps the ultimate DIY clock experiment. Van Baak methodically selected three of his best portable cesium clocks, outfitted the family minivan (with his wife's permission) as a traveling time laboratory, and drove with his three children up the highest mountain in Washington State. After staying on Mt. Rainier for a long weekend they returned home to compare
asciilifeform always thought that a 'proper' computer oughta include a bnc jack for rb or cesiumfountain on front panel
asciilifeform: mod6: phf wrote a tx dumper
asciilifeform: and not sure if there is a simple way to weasel out of using the rodent here
asciilifeform: this is not seriously important in this case, but it follows 'unix philosophy' in the sense that a proggy returning false lets you use its failure as part of a shell script
asciilifeform: for completeness, i will also mention the possibility that we (or what al can see of us in his light-cone) didn't pass his bozo filter.
asciilifeform: make sure to compare epoch clock
asciilifeform not a big fan of the whole 'mempool' scheme, but has said this before, it's in the logz
asciilifeform: less than my computer, even
asciilifeform: trinque: your stockpile probably isn't complete without a stack of 'mitsui' gold-reflector cd burns
asciilifeform: i have it. has some extraneous garbage, but appears to actually contain... satoshi's complete posts
asciilifeform: 'Not every spy’s data is in the system. The CIA conducts its own security clearance investigations and keeps that data to itself. Even so, some U.S. officials have said that a foreign spy service might be able to identify U.S. intelligence operatives by comparing stolen OPM records with rosters of U.S. personnel at embassies overseas.'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he's a compulsive ant-stomper. went where the enviro-whiners congregate
asciilifeform: might be time to attempt persuading him to visit, again.
asciilifeform: 'Anyway, it is my considered opinion (along with, I wager, most everyone else's) that positively the ONLY way that's getting show to be inconsistent is by some intoxicated kids during having sex or somesuch. Everything else was tried to death.' (from mircea_popescu's www) <<<< 'ftl drive will be discovered by an ee student on the verge of flunking, designing stero amps.' (al schwartz)
asciilifeform: sometimes the 'construct future with past' thing gets taken up and run ragged, though. as in the case of 'square the circle with ruler and compass' problem that drove folks batshit until 19th c even.
asciilifeform: highest compliment paul e. could give a colleague was to say 'this is from The Book'
asciilifeform: back to the miners, i say that if money were the handy iq test mircea_popescu suggests it is, this kind of situation would be quite impossible.
asciilifeform: partly this is on account of the derpitude of keeping them all in a warehouse, rather than having chumps pay for power
asciilifeform: not impossible, but not strictly a matter of 'wanting to' either
asciilifeform: better example - pluto
asciilifeform: if he's an arm wrestling champ !
asciilifeform: will is not a scalar. perelman has will, mircea_popescu has will, i have will, and napoleon had will, and comparing magnitudes alone is rank nonsense
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well, the impression i get is that you think 'will' is a scalar
asciilifeform: i also learned last night that chinese rtc modules, complete with battery, are about fifty cents in quantity
asciilifeform: jurov: the particular example, 'gossip', ~is~ jam tomorrow, yes. but it is possible to run encrypted tunnels of various sorts even today.
asciilifeform: where else? in pampas, to the pampas cats?
asciilifeform: i must confess that i'm not 100% clear on the primary mission. but did have the distinct impression that it involves making use of net jacks that don't have literate and attentive humans attached to them
asciilifeform: there will simply be more folks who get to drive the obligatory 1-2 hr
asciilifeform: the only thing new infrastructure is used for, in usa, is to pack in more chumps for same kind of life.
asciilifeform: it hands it out there for historical reasons (it is where the majority of the chump candidates live, given as that is where the anthill mega-cities are found)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-07-2015#1193991 << was linked as 'entomological sample' ! specifically, example of folks 'spinning their wheels'
asciilifeform: it is merely an example
asciilifeform: decimation: one very obvious way for it to fuck, and be noticed, is to simply fail
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al were contemplating a surrender to ntp even.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-07-2015#1193951 << it's why they produce incompatible ones regularly. because no way to know if it happened or not yet, save for passage of time
asciilifeform: but not only it, but a complete recipe whereby i can regenerate it.
asciilifeform: and see example of CreateNewBlock
ascii_field: thestringpuller: i'm not even certain that the 'ocean of complaint' consists of real people
ascii_field: now if the node is 'live' and has net connection, hears tx, suffers possible fragging (see old threads) - then even more consumption.
ascii_field: (this was a node, i must remind the reader, with no mempool, on account of having no net connection and being fed blocks 'intravenously' if you will)
ascii_field: everything i did only ~increases~ bandwidth consumption
ascii_field: don't even need a computer.
ascii_field: and now compound the problem by supposing that it is not you and your best friend, but you and a network consisting, to an unknown degree, of devils
ascii_field: trinque: bad example. norton was popular.
ascii_field: what makes the exam champ the waste of oxygen that he is ?
ascii_field: i.e. 'champion at exams' vs the other kind.
ascii_field: 'If you want to end ISIS, teach it game theory and casebooks. "They['ll] get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do," and lose.' (from the al schwartz link earlier)
ascii_field: in the case of the latter, it is necessary to have a ~complete~ picture of the vital organs
ascii_field: ('how it ends,' for the uninitiated, is that some time around when these fine folks are about half done, the chip will go out of print. and be replaced by an entirely incompatible one.)
ascii_field: try synthesizing ~anything~ of any serious complexity without exact timing data for ~every piece of shit on the die~
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: no, it isn't 'greatest leak ever' - but certainly the most complete gutting of a usg contractor in history
ascii_field: very short and simple to grasp
asciilifeform: but it will continue to suck in all sorts of other financial garbage and use it to spew forth Euros without comment, keeping other European countries on financial life support simply because they aren't Greece.'
asciilifeform: decimation: re: 'round trip' ntp - you still are at the mercy of local clock's accuracy when computing the trip time
asciilifeform: it'll be generations after a sane computer exists that this kind of thinking even gets a chance of drawing to a close.
asciilifeform: 'computer', to an experienced commander, means 'twerp will cast a spell and enemy will walk clean across, shredding you'
asciilifeform: the reason, afaik, why 'defuse with key' did not catch on is a ~well-founded~ distrust of computer
asciilifeform: comparing a subset of your field of vision with the rest does nothing against the latter.
asciilifeform: let me guess, by comparing the behaviour of one node with others
asciilifeform: 1) spray orange paint on 'thompson' 2) pull out in front of police 3) ??? 4) profit!!!111!
asciilifeform: 'Mr. Schumer said a federal law requires toy or imitation guns to feature a highly visible orange mark at the end of the barrel to identify them as harmless. Since the phone case does not have the marker, he said, he would work with customs officials to block its import and sale.' << l0l! srsly?
asciilifeform: the realization comes from the fact that you don't really need accurate time, just an oscillator that is reasonably independence of amplitude
ascii_field: (and before anyone chimes in with 'of course vs' - this is empirically false. can build arbitrarily complicated crapware for winblows with gcc)
ascii_field: the graph flabkebab_ showed does not even attempt to place symbols ~anywhere near~ even one of their links !!
ascii_field: or nm, not complete
ascii_field: complete schematics and pedantically agonizing docs
ascii_field: not all isp will even let through icmp, no ?
ascii_field: ^ example
ascii_field: hell, folks in here were ringing the alarm on account of empty blocks
ascii_field: the basic, irrecoverable problem with ntp is that one can 'amplify'
ascii_field: but yes, if using block timestamps, pogos can only be mislead, cannot mislead others (unless some fool were to mine via 'getwork'-ing a pogo!)
ascii_field: and if it did, hitler could simply delay the packet
ascii_field: lamport's achievement was to abstract out some of the attributes of timekeeping we actually ~need~
ascii_field: punkman: we were contemplating a hypothetical clockless blockchain
ascii_field: when you ~actually~ (vs. academitard-pretend) nail something down - that is a reduction in complexity.
ascii_field: what we have now - ~that~ is complexity. just unexamined kind.
ascii_field: not complexity !
ascii_field: no need for sample
ascii_field: so now we're asking for a non-retarded complete reimplementation of ntp.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the speed of the sound of the drum is negligible in comparison to the speed at which push wave propagates through a crowd
ascii_field: next block is from hitler. it has timestamp of... yesterday.
ascii_field: how did the disk become not empty ?
ascii_field: all it sees is 'block was broadcast, has timestamp t, average it now'
ascii_field: fine, example. malicious miner starts crapping out blocks with timestamp more and more off in the future
ascii_field: i am not sure how this improves on anything
asciilifeform: what is the shortest known implementation ?
asciilifeform: jurov: classic chumpatron. exists on this side of the atlantic, too
asciilifeform: i am concerned with 'pogos will fall like dominoes from simple and cheap nudge' rather than 'in the dark future where being a known bitcoin user merits gassing'
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: machine with no keyboard, or display, or presumption of literate owner
asciilifeform: for folks who are seriously working on the problem: i presently suspect that the solution will resemble some mix of 'lamport clock' and 'the firing squad problem'
asciilifeform: incidentally, there is even an empty landing pad inside for rtc
asciilifeform: where such 'champions' exist
asciilifeform: punkman: this works only if you are the world champion by an unreasonable margin
asciilifeform: 'gets its time from the most recent block it accepts' is a logical impossibility given the current algo for 'accept'
asciilifeform: lamport (same as of the 'generals') clock.
asciilifeform: anyone else have examples of 'maths an exploiter must know' ?
asciilifeform: other pertinent maths include the proof of why 'homomorphic obfuscator' is impossible in the general case
asciilifeform: basic discretes is more important
asciilifeform: decimation: for a successful example of this, see 'kademlia'
asciilifeform: astonishingly useless no matter how implemented
asciilifeform: linked mainly on account of this http://russos.ru/img/trip/2009-kolskiy/b440-22.jpg mechanical computer.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: or the survivors simply sign, on parchment, with their privkeys, ..., etc
asciilifeform: unrelated: folks competing for mircea_popescu's 1 btc prize for therealbitcoin callgraph can strike 'egypt' utility off the list. it is a worthless pile of shit, which produces worthless piles of shit (at least for cpp proggy)
ascii_field: i would like to compare it with mine.
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu please consider posting your blkxxxx which encompass the two most recent forks
ascii_field: i suppose all the 'proper confucians' with millenium-long time cocks are employed as colonels in pla or whatnot
ascii_field: the reward could still follow the same asymptotic
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: why so certain that impossible ?
ascii_field: it appears to be utterly impossible to obtain the key components outside of cn
ascii_field: based on component cost
ascii_field: part of block validation is 'is the timestamp <2h from now'
ascii_field: they could still attempt to filter, but it would have to be an open declaration of war. something the gavinists are rather averse to
ascii_field: so i'm nearly certain that the timestamp ~2h epoch time window is the reason for wedged 0.5.x nodes, at this point
ascii_field: ^ re: block timestamping
ascii_field: the buildroot gives you the complete toolchain you need, independently from that of the box you're on
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2015#1189379 << not sure if it's solely disk, or also net, as of this moment. and simply getting 2nd box may be more cost-effective.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2015#1189407 << probably should've been more specific - why does it matter if timestamp is 'too far in future' ?
asciilifeform: wtf does that thing even care about timestamps
asciilifeform: and also, as before, ERROR: CheckBlock() : block timestamp too far in the future ERROR: ProcessBlock() : CheckBlock FAILED
asciilifeform: just like an f-35 engine compressor made from monocrystalline shitanium with unobtainium alloy blades is far more lucrative than an ordinary steel one
asciilifeform: whether the compiler, the os, or satan is to blame - is secondary
asciilifeform: nor are the 'desert horde' exempt from the radiation damage of welfarism. ferfuxxsake they're getting free tanks by the column !
asciilifeform: (oop systems which aren't clos (or possibly smalltalk's, and generally meta-object-able) are like btc securities exchanges which aren't mpex.)
asciilifeform: the fella we keep bringing up, who directed his followers to use caesar's cipher, was actually being the very example of intellectual consistency here.
asciilifeform: (comparable on modulus)
asciilifeform: sure. just keep in mind the amperage of the dc power brick
asciilifeform: ERROR: CheckBlock() : block timestamp too far in the future
asciilifeform: "errors" : "Warning: Please check that your computer's date and time are correct. If your clock is wrong Bitcoin will not work properly."
asciilifeform: so yes, both of my 0.5.x nodes are still firmly wedged. no sign of attempted 'reorg', nothing.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188105 << i've always said to phriends who played 'grind mmporgs' : 'there is a uranium mine somewhere missing a man. you are that man'
asciilifeform: ;;later tell danielpbarron wouldja mind dumpblock-ing a few blx at the wedgepoint ? ty
asciilifeform: no sign of attempted 'reorgs', nothing but churning mempool shit
asciilifeform: mempool garbage by the megatonne, just like my earlier node
ascii_modem: but std compliant gcc
ascii_modem: compared to c++
ascii_modem: but farming is tempting, yes
ascii_modem: also touches on the mempool thread
ascii_modem: this incident makes it very tempting to just unzip, piss on satoshid, and go ada sanityfork (tm)
ascii_modem: fellas, we gotta infer, divine, & reimplement mircea_popescu's mega-debugger
ascii_modem: the enemy accomplished his objective, which probably had something to do with discrediting chinese mines
asciilifeform: (not a connectivity problem - i'm getting mempoolisms just fine)
asciilifeform: as temporary workaround, replace the realpath thing (whole right side of equal sign) with the absolute path of 'ourlibs'
asciilifeform: decimation: bozos are stuffing'em full of garbage tx, in an attempt to prop up gavinism
asciilifeform: at any rate, various folks have mined empties before. afaik, it is not publicly known precisely why.
asciilifeform: this may well be one of those things that can be made 'as simple as possible but not simpler'
asciilifeform: if you want 'dumpblock' and 'eatblock', those are not included in stator
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2015#1186009 << a modern (vs. the infrared diode + mirror mat '80s kind) optic mouse is a pretty hefty computer by itself. complete with bugs
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