decimation: asciilifeform: you should make one and calibrate in micromorts
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 131236 @ 0.00053662 = 70.4239 BTC [-] {3}
decimation: that's a neat project (the gps receiver)
decimation: that's alot of cash to invest in 'diy'
decimation: " A 5071A uses about 50 W at 24 VDC (~2 A)." damn that's alot of battery power
Vexual: BingoBoingo, hows that red/green watch running?
decimation: wow that's probably at least $500k in equipment
decimation: the stability and accuracy of modern clocks actually enables a great deal of science and engineering
decimation: interesting selective availability messed with time stability by a factor of 3
Vexual: shit bb finds c++, suddenly both wrists show the same time, so is alfs predator time
decimation: surely the ru generals saw the writing on the wall
decimation: ^ attempts to correct for the ionoshere messing with the gps frequency band as it goes through
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71400 @ 0.00053863 = 38.4582 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: so that gps users can approach 1m accuracy with simple equipment
decimation: "Aircraft conducting WAAS approaches must possess certified GPS receivers, which are much more expensive than non-certified units. In 2006, Garmin's least expensive certified receiver, the GNS 430W, had a suggested retail price of US$10,750.[27]"
decimation: aircraft are very effective at bleeding rich folk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29540 @ 0.00052766 = 15.5871 BTC [-]
Vexual: some bitch will always go back for her shoes
decimation: I wish; I view blowing a few $k on computers and electronics to be a big expense
decimation: yet along paying $10k for something that can be had for $200 or less
decimation: yeah I think there are still two encrypted signals
Vexual: still look for mountains
decimation: hitler would only do this (in a civilized place) at the cost of massive disruption to many things
decimation: to the point where it's probably almost unthinkable unless under threat of immediate attack
Vexual: for sport as ascii said
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10013 @ 0.00052766 = 5.2835 BTC [-]
decimation: Vexual: it would be a big deal if civilian gps service were degraded
decimation: ^ yeah that's honestly a bigger threat
decimation: usg can no longer employ/manage to keep the thing running
Vexual: hey you're getting cheap clocks
decimation:
http://www.insidegnss.com/node/3054 "“We'll be ready to launch the first GPS III in 2015, but it now appears the next generation GPS Operational Control System, or OCX, won't be ready for about a year or two after that,” General William L. Shelton, commander of Air Force Space Command told attendees at the 28th Annual National Space Symposium. "
decimation: asciilifeform: sure, but it takes balls to pull the trigger
decimation: if over a civilized area there are going to be lots of innocent bystanders
decimation: it would be interesting to know if they actually jam gps
decimation: that's a big deal, especially with all the aircraft around wash dc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16337 @ 0.0005292 = 8.6455 BTC [+]
Vexual: don't be messing with the 55 track!
decimation: not for precision approach in heavy weather anyway
decimation: there's a huge difference between selective availablity and turning off service
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63182 @ 0.00051183 = 32.3384 BTC [-] {4}
decimation: I suppose now is the time to buy your H-maser
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18790 @ 0.00050776 = 9.5408 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: its kaput in any sector every day
Vexual: you can't tell coz its under 2 hours
decimation to bed, to dream of all the lion's mouths into which his head is voluntarily stuck
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37648 @ 0.00050707 = 19.0902 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7129 @ 0.00050505 = 3.6005 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49533 @ 0.00050097 = 24.8145 BTC [-] {4}
punkman: trinque: this python-gnupg is a motherfucking piece of shit << which one are you using?
punkman: asciilifeform: iirc 2 chokes on just about anything other than straight ascii << I rarely have problems with that
trinque: punkman: cool, I'll try that out
punkman: there's also python-gpgme that skips the "pipe to shell" retardation
punkman: though nobody uses gpgme so I'm wary
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 02:44:42; asciilifeform: or in log.bitcoin-assets.com !
punkman: Al walked in when the doge was derping, unfortunate
punkman: (no ddos, he closed the page both times)
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 03:14:47; asciilifeform: ~another~ interesting scientific instrument would be a fly trap for invalid tx
mircea_popescu: punkman the time intervals don't at all match a ddos. that's usually a 5 minute stay.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48138 @ 0.00049707 = 23.928 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 03:55:37; decimation: surely the market is nonzero
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4422 @ 0.00049706 = 2.198 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 04:44:37; asciilifeform: galileo was also in planning at the time (ru 'glonas' was in a serious state of decay and not relevant) and one legend goes that clinton's order was a failed gambit to sink it
punkman: "Gogglebox is a British observational documentary which has aired on Channel 4 since 7 March 2013. The show features recurring couples, families and friends from across the United Kingdom sitting in their living rooms watching weekly British television shows."
mircea_popescu: "observational documentary" ? wtf, new words = no content.
punkman: apparently it's been copied by US, AU, Canada, Italy, Poland, Slovenia, Israel and Germany.
mircea_popescu: i was walking through town today, and tons of advertising for... ANT MAN.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34024 @ 0.00049706 = 16.912 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: answer : they really dun wanna pour all that money into AN ACTOR's own capital good.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how the screen guild stands for it, but... it does.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> answer : they really dun wanna pour all that money into AN ACTOR's own capital good. << This. Also they don't have to write new stories which they couldn't.
mircea_popescu: right. no more of that "seinfeld doesn't wanna do more shows so he gets a bn dollars and then decides when to end the series"
punkman: but they don't wear the mask during the whole movie
punkman: usually have long sequences of unmasked derpy "clark"
BingoBoingo: Well with the superhero movies now it the standard seems to be signing the actors to 7-10 movie long contracts.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell xemist you know this is irc not a forum. you gotta stick around for anything to work.
BingoBoingo: So stator with experimental minrelaytxfee option patch was syncing well as a drop in replacement for previous stator on testbed then laptop became unplugged and battery dead. Restarted with -rescan because BDB hates stopping suddenly and the blockindex is screwed.
punkman: mircea_popescu: not really
BingoBoingo: Other than the hardware/filesystem hiccup seems to work so far.
mircea_popescu: from that "how start-up fails" angle, for the collector.
assbot: Treat dust outputs as non-standard, un-hardcode TX_FEE constants by gavinandresen · Pull Request #2577 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... (
http://bit.ly/1LVxF6A )
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 271.31, Best ask: 271.38, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 271.4, 24 hour volume: 25826.5008129, 24 hour low: 267.81, 24 hour high: 273.0, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106500 @ 0.00050315 = 53.5855 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70450 @ 0.00049894 = 35.1503 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57300 @ 0.00049703 = 28.4798 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: So recovered the instance of bitcoind-stator-minrelaytxfeeconfflag to resume old stator's sync. And now I started it on a fresh one.
jurov: williamdunne: why do you ask me of all people about steam?
shinohai: I have to do another build sometime this weekend I guess
felipelalli: hi BingoBoingo! Thanks for remember. How are you?
BingoBoingo: shinohai: I don't have a formal patch for this, just a recipe in dpaste. Not comfortable enough to formally submit. All it is supposed to do is allow you to set the -minrelaytxfee flag in Bitcoin.conf which isn't a big deal because if you are building it you can just change the number in main.h
shinohai: That's what i did was change main.h
shinohai: but i goofed somewhere and my static build isn't very static on the pogo.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46000 @ 0.00050099 = 23.0455 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00050562 = 12.1349 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: well if amir is backing it...
assbot: Taxman gets new US-style powers to raid tens of thousands of personal bank accounts to recover debts - Telegraph ... (
http://bit.ly/1HROUns )
assbot: Bitcoin price rallies sharply as robust transaction fee market develops proving the naysayers were wrong. : Bitcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1HRPMbS )
BingoBoingo: Qntra bunny is now in 10th place on /r/bitcoin's front page
shinohai: I used to have like a ton of reddit troll accounts
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40600 @ 0.00050654 = 20.5655 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: I stopped submitting qntra to reddit myself, because I'd rather just make reddit a more miserable place on my own without the bunny drawing aggro
shinohai: I like stirring thee pot with r/crypto too.
shinohai: I posted a qntra article there and got the most downvotes EVAH
BingoBoingo: I honestly prefer dropping qntra links in /buttcoin
shinohai: I had snapshill bot working so perfect before the blackout
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62450 @ 0.0005076 = 31.6996 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56301 @ 0.00050079 = 28.195 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17449 @ 0.0004969 = 8.6704 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97260 @ 0.00051073 = 49.6736 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00051403 = 5.8085 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 45 @ 0.08 = 3.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109550 @ 0.00051504 = 56.4226 BTC [+] {2}
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 286.43, Best ask: 286.91, Bid-ask spread: 0.48000, Last trade: 286.43, 24 hour volume: 60789.47237163, 24 hour low: 267.81, 24 hour high: 292.66, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00404251 / 0.0040653 / 0.00407783 (292 shares, 1.19 BTC), 7D: 0.00404251 / 0.0040951 / 0.00435631 (2398 shares, 9.82 BTC), 30D: 0.00136203 / 0.00431765 / 0.00494794 (6607 shares, 28.53 BTC)
jurov: ;;calc 1/0.00397737
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27634 @ 0.00049654 = 13.7214 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58400 @ 0.00050037 = 29.2216 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88950 @ 0.00050708 = 45.1048 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57500 @ 0.00051811 = 29.7913 BTC [+]
decimation: yes, from two different ips apparently
Adlai may have gotten whacked by it, a while back
decimation: he might have come back after the latest excitement
Adlai: well there is something to be said for openness, although "requests will be honored by default" is still rather open
decimation: how about a policy of randomly kicking people who are remoras?
mats: what's to say someone that's voiced isn't feeding IPs for ddos
decimation: gabriel_laddel: did you get ddos-kicked?
Adlai: mats is right.anybody doing ddos-botting is already feeding links into the channel
Adlai: if you mean lurking for ips through uncloaked hosts... the uncloaked fools should know better -_-
decimation: well, that was kinda the conclusion last time
Adlai: for the tards, of the tards, by the tards
decimation: but there exists a class of non-irc-savvy people who are actual people
kakobrekla: what, dont you dare to press the button?
punkman: btw, you could probably decloak everyone without even being in channel
punkman: unless freenode patched it
Adlai: you'd have no list of 'everyone'
Adlai: log doesn't have lurkers
kakobrekla: but if you have only lurkers you dont have a chan really
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54850 @ 0.00051693 = 28.3536 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82350 @ 0.00051941 = 42.7734 BTC [+]
Adlai: true lurkers don't even /join, what else are logs for
Naphex: don't tell me what to do ;]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35800 @ 0.00051693 = 18.5061 BTC [-]
williamdunne: jurov: There was a thought process behind it, but not a though process to be proud of.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21450 @ 0.00050928 = 10.9241 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38300 @ 0.00050928 = 19.5054 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23904 @ 0.00050638 = 12.1045 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 61000 @ 0.00003009 = 1.8355 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 14:39:21; asciilifeform: three differents, so far
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 14:52:12; Adlai: if you mean lurking for ips through uncloaked hosts... the uncloaked fools should know better -_-
Adlai: then perhaps they were targeting based on link-follows
Adlai: which is tbh more consistent with what happened a few weeks ago
Adlai experienced sudden router failure mere moments after rejoining freenode, same router had functioned just fine for a while before
danielpbarron: i "click" most of the links here by pasting them into archive.is
Adlai: aka "why is wotnet notyet"
danielpbarron wonders if assbot can automatically submit urls to archive.is like he currently submits them to bit.ly
Adlai: no that is clearly a violation of intergalactic law
danielpbarron also wonders what is the correct gender pronoun for a bot, and in particular, assbot
ascii_field: one possible idea re: how to let n00bs speak: host a few 'bathyscaphe' bots, having www-based chat on one end and a pre-regged cloaked account on the other. but if a bozo connect to one, can be signalled from here to add his ip to ban list.
ascii_field: i can already guess what mircea_popescu will say to this: 'we don't dignify sp4mz0rz by reacting to anything they do'
ascii_field: kakobrekla will answer, not unreasonably, 'how about ~you~ do this'
ascii_field: i will answer 'i shall do it, in my Copious Spare Time! (tm)'
ascii_field: meanwhile taleb and uncleal will log in, witness a thread about dogecoin, then get a flood of ddos, vomit, and never return
ascii_field: my current hypothesis is that all the relevant folks are waiting for 'gossipd' and don't give much of a fuck
ascii_field: however, some of the same work will have to be done then
ascii_field: in particular, www gateways to gossip net will necessarily resemble the 'bathyscaphe' i described above
ascii_field: and will come under every conceivable kind of attack
ascii_field: ~precisely~ in order to get us to switch them off
ascii_field: this entire line of thought is not entirely disconnected from the 'transaction spam' thread
trinque: Adlai | aka "why is wotnet notyet" << hear hear
Adlai: where's the grindstone and where's your nose, and why are neither bloody
Adlai: ascii_field: the lack of dignification is aka the refusal to be terrosrized
Adlai: which is largely how the <western nation> lost <war> long before the first grunt printed the first boot in the desert
trinque: really isn't a "learn C" task eh?
Adlai: tbpfh, wotnet could be build using the shell, even pre-rebirth
trinque: Adlai: heh I wrote two bash oneliners for cheap p2p chat
Adlai: wake me up when eternal september ends.
Adlai educates the qwerty-sheltered public that L is a common dvorak typo for the query suffix
Adlai: who knows how many log-lurkers there are!
assbot: Logged on 17-02-2015 18:00:13; Xuthus: mircea_popescu, why don't you go and code something ?
decimation:
http://blog.bofh.it/id_456 < "Short summary: if these emails are true, and so far nobody has found any credible reason to believe that they are not, then some major italian ISPs hijacked the IP addresses of a foreign ISP on request of the section of the Carabinieri which investigates terrorism and organized crime."
Adlai: "never trust a fart^H^H^H^H^Hn IP address" - bill murray
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118300 @ 0.00050928 = 60.2478 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: nigga, hate fuels MPOE stock prices. we'll probably be able to trade hate as a currency soon with all the butthurt.
shinohai: hmm [MPEX] [HATE] *fueled by reddit
thestringpuller: I always wondered about archiving the most idiotic of the reddit comments on bitcoin somewhere as entertainment
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00050928 = 6.748 BTC [+]
trinque: no, lisp and other wonderful things were thrown down the memory hole by these fucks
trinque: it's their turn to be forgotten.
ascii_field: trinque: important to remember that these folks are just as powerless to do constructive things as they are to do serious damage
ascii_field: what if they ~had~ wished for lisp machine?
ascii_field: i'll have you know that reddit circa 2006-2007 - sorta did!
trinque: ascii_field: yeah, I recall
ascii_field: were sympathetic to the idea. but nothing came of it, as nothing could have
trinque: yeah, I see your point about good ideas in the wrong hands
trinque: all the better reason for them to be forgotten
trinque: whatever's left of them can keep an oral tradition
ascii_field: reddit clearly doesn't try to remember anything
ascii_field: i once logged in, and for amusement tried to access some of my old posts
ascii_field: most recently, when digging out the 'mother nature' infanticide study link for ben_vulpes
ascii_field: for several years, my link to it was among the top few all-time hits on reddit
trinque: when it had one subreddit and wasn't well known you could almost have a conversation on there
ascii_field: (it still needs a chassis, power, storage, ... clock!)
ascii_field: iirc it is similar to the chipset in 'hootoo'
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assbot: Bitcoin price rallies sharply as robust transaction fee market develops proving the naysayers were wrong. : Bitcoin ... (
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trinque notices the confederate flag under the rabbit
ascii_field: Xiaomi Router sells 7620-based routers for ~25-35 usd, with usb jacks (but 128m ram, as pogo)
BingoBoingo: Reddit still shows 40+ points inspite of being 40% downvoted.
mircea_popescu: dude, the wishful thinking of the empire of fail matters so very much...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99748 @ 0.00050149 = 50.0226 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: every mother warned her daughter about the perils of fast cars throughout the 60s.
ben_vulpes: anyone running dd-wrt have a recommendation on midprice router hardware?
trinque: ben_vulpes: I had it running on a buffalo something
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: it will run on just about anything
ben_vulpes: certainly, but i'd like something nice-/ish/
ben_vulpes: i have eight people here and this consumer object is falling over
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: that 'ufo'-like thing by the people who made 'edgerouter' - the same one i whined about and posted disassembly photos - runs wrt pretty well
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gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 288.64, Best ask: 288.73, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 288.73, 24 hour volume: 70201.9012057, 24 hour low: 268.58, 24 hour high: 292.66, 24 hour vwap: None
trinque: iirc mircea_popescu called 300 a week or two ago
ascii_field: but don't even think about trying to use the included firmware
trinque: mircea_popescu: ya could've been
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: wipe and slam with dd-wrt?
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: comes with power-over-ethernet brick
punkman: supports a lot of chinese boxes
ascii_field: (the 'ufo' has no dc jack. gotta supply dc bias on the ethernet cable)
thestringpuller: ascii_field: can't crowdsource a cumshot. save that for the professionals.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: he might know how to eat tree bark, but still has to pay for bandwidth, no ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field btw is mr xemist all butthurt at our new fangled techs ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60000 @ 0.00051949 = 31.1694 BTC [+] {2}
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: and i could be an anteater
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45913 @ 0.00049609 = 22.777 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 22:35:26; kakobrekla: yet
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 22:38:18; asciilifeform: ^^ i dare to suggest that the patch be considered by therealbitcoin ^^
mircea_popescu: ascii_field close enough, since any two clocks are an entropy measuring tool.
ascii_field: pretty bad tool unless the resolution of said clocks is high
mircea_popescu: and any programmable computer necessarily has an interrupt clock
ascii_field: thing is, rng needs attributes ~other~ than 'shits entropy'. namely, not to be correlated with variables manipulable or monitorable by enemy
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i have no idea what sort of an argument is this. there's no such thing as good or bad entropy. the thing is unqualifiable by definition. do you mean that you'd have to wait longer to generate a strong address? so you would.
ascii_field: interrupts are precisely the wrong kind of animal
mircea_popescu: at the rate people use adresses you need something like 1 byte of entropy per hour.
ascii_field: 'bad entropy' is easy: the kind which the enemy can cut you off from by silencing your net connection; or the kind he can guess some bits of, by watching packets (no interrupt source in pogo is in any sense entropic other than the NIC's)
mircea_popescu: i guess, but there's some practical security considerations here.
ascii_field: at any rate, if you really must have rng on pogo for some perverse reason, can do it right now
mircea_popescu: yes, you'll prolly be safe to keep a coupla btc for going to porcfest.
ascii_field: you don't need calendar date for rng-from-interrupts
mircea_popescu: rtc/interrupts seems to me a much worse scheme than ic2 clock / interrupts
mircea_popescu: incidentally, gotta say that laser cooled cesium clock thing is pretty spiffy an idea.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 235200 @ 0.00052394 = 123.2307 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 09:17:30; punkman: well if amir is backing it...
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 14:42:41; asciilifeform: has anyone recently probed for the continued existence of the ddos bot ?
shinohai: is it the same guy that is is in dogecoin
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 14:46:24; asciilifeform: what do we need the idling remoras for ?
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 14:47:44; asciilifeform: what openness, when tomorrow, e.g., taleb, logs in, and gets ddosed off by a tard
mircea_popescu: it's a pity ulcer got naggum. it is out of the question we change how ulcer works to get people.
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 14:53:07; decimation: but there exists a class of non-irc-savvy people who are actual people
ascii_field: but put yourself in the place of herr schwartz. you get invited, and then some rotter throws shit in your face
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: I didn't know about #eurola, I'll join
mircea_popescu: incidentally, clinton had the same problem. "gee, mr yeltsin, i wish i could say the same"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66300 @ 0.00049572 = 32.8662 BTC [-] {2}
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: why would a fella who owns 'rpg7' need inflatable gurl ?
mircea_popescu: with great dongs comes great need for inflatable support ?
mircea_popescu kinda likes the fake look, ftr. if nothing else, it shows the girl is trying, and willing to go to extreme inconvenience for an idea. and it's the right sort of idea, too : pleasing others.
mircea_popescu: much better than the alternative "career woman" from a purely moral standpoint.
mircea_popescu: the latter may be right, but in principle she'll be right some of the time and it's necessarily hard to separate them. the latter's gonna be nice, also some of the time, but much easier to separate.
trinque: hm, time to work on some hunchentootage
Adlai: more than just an opera!
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 15:15:51; Naphex: don't tell me what to do ;]
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the 'fake look' to me suggests that there's 'nobody home', rather than organism 'trying' anything
ascii_field: solely from personal experience with creatures having this appearance
ascii_field: where i live - they're monosyllabic. mental age permanently 12 or so
mircea_popescu: do you prefer a 12 yo with fake tits or an obnoxious 12yo ?
mircea_popescu: because there's not enough brains to feed seven billion heads.
ascii_field: and not enough room in block for phree tx for 7 trillion redditors, aha
ascii_field: and not enough rubidium lamps for every pc
mircea_popescu: that's the point. once you know she's gonna be 12 for the rest of your life - would you rather have the sort that goes under the knife for approval or the sort that smashes scales ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: to borrow from herr churchill, 'if she were my wife, i'd drink it'
mircea_popescu: seems to me the former's by far the morally apt posture.
mthreat: not bad... just got the itch to poke my head in here
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i still have no idea why anyone'd get married, but then again i'm weird like that.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: all i can say is that here in mordor, they do it because health 'insurance'
mthreat: mircea_popescu: some financial reasons - inheritence, taxes, citizenship, etc
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: aka no signature - no doctor
mthreat: oh also, to avoid being forced to testify
mthreat: although these days they just throw both the man and woman in jail to make that hard
mircea_popescu: in any case, disparaging the owner of a technologically improved sexual body while at the same time holding notionm like, "marry - to satisfy social expectations, be they in the form of taxation or citizenship or anythin else" seems confused.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: ftr i don't give a flying fuck how much of the gurl is made of what polymer
mircea_popescu: note that i'm not for a moment proposing a course of action. nevertheless, holding the owner of 50k in silicone dispersed through her fat tissue in less regard than the mean seems nonsensical.
ascii_field: (not that my opinion is relevant to any of the folks involved. they and i live on separate planets)
mircea_popescu: i can see that. but then again, how're you to know from a pic.
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ascii_field: 'different strokez for different folks', i don't give a damn if she bought 50k of plastic tit or of 'cessna'
mircea_popescu: and especially nonsensical given that there's an exactly just as silly, but opposite direction social convention : people going around with a prosthetic leg are apparently GREAT!11
ascii_field: prosthetic leg - only great if comes with good war story. (or pirate!)
trinque: prosthetic pussy is its own war story
mircea_popescu: you know... retrospecitvely i agree ? i think we found the common ground!
mircea_popescu: for to my eyes too, "Fake tits only great if come with great whoredom story"
ascii_field: trinque: see opera 'hedwig and the angry inch'
trinque: ascii_field: I have a cat named hedwig!
trinque: thought he was female, then the day of spaying his balls dropped
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 16:53:43; Adlai: which is tbh more consistent with what happened a few weeks ago
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 17:07:16; ascii_field: my current hypothesis is that all the relevant folks are waiting for 'gossipd' and don't give much of a fuck
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i meant - the lot of us. nobody wants to really break a sweat for channel housekeeping because gossipd is 'the right thing'
ascii_field: but i suspect that the puzzle of how to get 'talebs' in here without the doorway being permanently plugged with reddit turds will remain
mircea_popescu: no, i happen to think your housekeeping ideas are a short path to hell.
ascii_field: kakobrekla did point out (later in thread) that none of it would make a whit of difference
mircea_popescu: to make things too pointed for life : tyhis place doesn't need X, for any given x. it can use x, but it has alternatives. X however, ~does not~ have alternatives. he pretends like he does and perceives that he does. he does not. the reason this is the case is specifically for particularities of this place that should never be fixed.
mircea_popescu: for should they ever be fixed, yes, it'd perhaps be "easier" for x to get involved. nevertheless, it'll also be pointless for anyone to get involved.
ascii_field: this is a good summary of why, e.g., voice model and gpg mechanizm
ascii_field: but the n00bs-get-ddosed turd still stinks. no matter how dresses as sausage
mircea_popescu: obviously invite-only would solve all the same conundrums we currently solve in this particularly circumlocutionary manner
mircea_popescu: this isn't because we're circumlocutory idiots. it's because it's actually necessary, for very good reasons.
Gabriel-work: in the invite, let them know about the DDOS bot
mircea_popescu: "oh there's only three or four spent cartridges on the floor"
mircea_popescu: who the fuck cares. i want the taleb in his 20s not the taleb in his 70s.
mircea_popescu: not that i MIND the later. but neither to i drastically care.
ascii_field was a sort of borderline case when invited to bitcoin-assets by hanbot
mircea_popescu: anyway, all this too pointed for life discussion. i tire of it.
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ascii_field: i suspect that '20-y.o. taleb' may be a contradiction in terms
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 17:55:51; trinque: whatever's left of them can keep an oral tradition
ascii_field: man life cycle doesn't quite work that way
mircea_popescu: i always thought that's the king of pedos : the guy that fucks future stars only
Adlai: and forever regrets, "if only i'd bought her that lollipop"
mircea_popescu: lol nah, this'd be a more frank-the-ditch-esque personality.
mircea_popescu: dumps them when they're 7, too old now, going to school.
Adlai: which ditch is called frank?
Adlai has not the ability to load google from this client
Adlai: google is too much cruft
Adlai stops reading after the first sentence of every paragraph!
Adlai: again and again. fancy that.
punkman: I'd setup a gigablast instance fed by log links
punkman: that fortress of code looks impenetrable on one hand, seems to work out the box on the other
trinque thinks mircea_popescu would write good metal lyrics
trinque: ascii_field: heh some of this we did at a previous job as "parental controls" software
trinque: the IM interception and social website session hijacking
ascii_field: nothing really remarkable in the turd, just a 'complete set'
trinque: yeah, looks like the list of features on sub7 or back orifice
trinque: my god they have antivirus detection functions!
trinque: hopefully this means the government will spend more of my future on cybersecurity
assbot: Index of /jurov/HackedTeam/Hacked Team
ascii_field: this might be the first lulzleak where i think it is interesting and mircea_popescu proclaims snorefest
mats: it's interesting because the capability is wide
mats: and snorefest because it's relatively easy
ascii_field: mats: the code is by far the most boring part
ascii_field: the interesting part is that these folks were in the buttbuddy s333k000r1ty wot
mats: but if you're a nation-state without access to the wot or a skilled pool of devs
ascii_field: (iirc mircea_popescu had some unnamed intelligence that the 'handsomely paid' part didn't happen...?)
mats: and you've got an op you need talent for, folks like HT to aid you
mats: rather than force you to forego the opportunity the op presents, or spend six months to a year spinning up
mats: er, folks like HT exist to aid you
ascii_field: my point is that if i, or mats, write to, e.g., saudi, offering ht work, will be laughed out of the room; and, since these twits don't believe in pgp, we'd get a visit from gasenwagen the next day
ascii_field: ergo, ht et al carry out their trade under crown concession.
ascii_field: on one side of the coin - someone to vouch for them, prevent laugh-out-of-the-room; on other - to avoid 'having problems', wash the money, handle employees who might like to go free-agent
trinque: maybe one of them got arrested back in the day
mats: and one day we may have the same fellas at the fringes of our wot, tryna get in
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2015 16:36:33; mircea_popescu: it's not so much a "i want those guys back" as it is "i want the situaiton where being 20 and into computers was more distinctive than any other thing - and you could spot a govt mole from a mile away"
ascii_field: ^ namely, the fact that we even think about 'moles' is indicative of how low the entire computing thing has fallen
trinque thumps emacs on the side of the head
trinque: it's off dreaming of electric sheep again
ascii_field: i'm still floored by all the drooling morons who think that you need to build code under microshit's compiler, when writing turdware
trinque: impostors posing as human beings everywhere
shinohai: if everyone voiced here was in my irc then i could sync node
trinque: they saw other Very Serious People using windoze, and so that's what they do
ascii_field: trinque: even the 'project olympic games' team at nsa seems to use 100% vs
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ascii_field: i'm not sure how a compiler which produces a 300KB 'hello world' and 800KB 'virus' could evoke anything but derisive laughter
trinque: ascii_field: I saw a picture somewhere that drove it home
trinque: super serious NSA guy at some congressional hearing
trinque: on his windows laptop, some daytime television FireEye screen
trinque: they're all morons acting out a terrible show
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2014 03:00:27; asciilifeform: one of my first job interviews out of uni. telephone. a fellow from one of the giant gov. contractors was really intrigued that i know x86 asm., have reversed crud for money. i ask him 'what's the job'. he: automated reversing. me: of what. he: ever hear of karatsuba's algo? me: sure. bignum mult. him: well, we wanna find encryption softs on terrorist drives!
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2014 03:00:53; asciilifeform: me: why would terrorist run ms-win. he: they will always, trust me.
jurov: why such hate? it pays the bills
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trinque: jokes on us, libjpeg is pwn3d, and we all just got rooted
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 20:43:03; jurov: why such hate? it pays the bills
trinque: not bad, hunchentootin' today
ascii_field: trinque: perhaps meta-nsa doesn't need the libjpeg 0day, given as we'll confess in the coke machine anyway
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trinque: ag3nt_zer0: good afternoon
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7662 @ 0.00052058 = 3.9887 BTC [-]
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: hacking the day away, yourself?
decimation: 'chains longer than 10' does that mean that there are 10 transactions that end up consolidating into one account?
decimation: at any rate it is clear someone revved up spam machine
decimation: someone laid a mega-fecolith into the blockchain
jurov: "Chains Longer Than 10" imo chains of unconfirmed txs
ascii_field: decimation: parallelizing the sig verify thing would be pretty simple
decimation: jurov: ah that kinda makes sense. would be useful if they had docs
jurov: what dox? nice pix that pay their bills suffice.
mircea_popescu: "It was widely reported to take about 25 seconds for bitcoin core to process this block: this is far worse than my 2 seconds per MB result in my last post, which was considered a pretty bad case. Lets look at why."
trinque: and they are losing their glorious leader, it seems
mircea_popescu: where the fuck is that gavin idiot now ? where are all the twerps that were going on about how my article describing him in terms of mental retardation was, to any degree, off mark ?
mircea_popescu: the man belongs in an institution for the developmentally delayed.
mircea_popescu: Short Term Steps Use the Intel and ARM optimized SHA256 routines, which increase SHA256 speed by about 80%. << NO.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: pretty transparent that the derps ~want~ to tempt the easily tempted
mircea_popescu: fucking hell, having usg-ssh imported into bitcoin wasn't bad enough
mircea_popescu: five billion lines of proprietary code in an unknown language that nobody has ever seen.
mircea_popescu: is this going to be another scammer doing the goat routine ?
ascii_field: but that's the source of the 1mb monolithic tx turd from earlier
ascii_field: not entirely. these, after all, aren't raindrops, they have arms and legs growing out of them somewhere.
ascii_field: jurov: i thought this was well-known for decades?
trinque: jurov: "This is a crazy story; one that seems like it must be a conspiracy theory." << beatings for people who do this
trinque: the govt testing bioweapons on the population is not weird or fringe
trinque: people are just cowards and must remind themselves that "they wouldn't dare!" like an autistic tic
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski "Im not sure how this level of thrills compares with, say, Eulora" << disfavourably. 50% returns not that uncommon, but i just brought home 4200 grass on a 2 axes + 400 threads run (like 220%).
jurov: oh yes. and then it lands on my fucking body and needs several tests and cultivations to ascertain what it is and how to cure it
jurov: presently, in my left ear
jurov: that was the first hypothesis
jurov: now the doc was like "hm, something still there, looks like fungi or yeast
mircea_popescu: did you get the streptomycin/cephalosporin/etc barage ?
mircea_popescu: it is rare to see bacteria giving trouble to imuno-indemn individuals. yeasts on the other hand... ask an adult woman.
jurov: no bacteria was cultivated, and i avoid atb until strictly necessary
jurov: as our whole family is half deaf thanks to them
jurov: specifically, streptomycin, erythromycin and one more i forgot
jurov: it just kills ear nerve endings
mircea_popescu: yeah. it's a bitch - best way to handle staph aureus (guy on skin), but ototoxic
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 20:16:16; ascii_field: this might be the first lulzleak where i think it is interesting and mircea_popescu proclaims snorefest
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 20:19:20; ascii_field: (iirc mircea_popescu had some unnamed intelligence that the 'handsomely paid' part didn't happen...?)
ascii_field: notice, sometimes i have to try run a mircea_popescu under emulation, when the real one is asleep
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 20:21:42; ascii_field: my point is that if i, or mats, write to, e.g., saudi, offering ht work, will be laughed out of the room; and, since these twits don't believe in pgp, we'd get a visit from gasenwagen the next day
jurov: mircea_popescu has forked as eulora owner/player, maybe he can do again for you
ascii_field: incidentally, if we ever abandon this place for gossipd etc. someone oughta leave shannonized (from logs) versions of us
trinque: the first test is whether you notice
ascii_field: betcha it'd still make for better reading (or fuck, even conversation) than 'reddit' et al
mircea_popescu: www.metacafe.com/.../a_bronx_tale_1993_imitating_sonny_and_his_crew/ <<
jurov: "tron" compose key
ascii_field: we live in intense time. not many centi-, kilo-, snores
ascii_field: ^ one 10**9th of the boredom required to actually fall asleep ?
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assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 20:42:19; assbot: Logged on 15-07-2014 03:00:53; asciilifeform: me: why would terrorist run ms-win. he: they will always, trust me.
mthreat: !s "in other news" from:mircea
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ag3nt_zer0: trinque: same here little of this and little of that
ascii_field: mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: so far, no one has signed any of my patches... am i to conclude that nobody reads these things?
ascii_field: or that nobody understands what is inside?
ascii_field: or is it that jurov doesn't have a handy mechanical way to group these sigs together yet ?
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gernika: "Ellen Pao, the interim chief executive officer of Reddit, will be succeeded by Steve Huffman." << Met this guy (Steve Huffman) years ago at a YC startup school event. Had a brief discussion with him about lisp (don't recall the dialect he used).
mod6: asciilifeform: thakns for the latest submissions!
mod6: <+ascii_field> mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: so far, no one has signed any of my patches... am i to conclude that nobody reads these things? << I've read them all (except the 2 you just posted, about to read here in a moment) but I don't sign patches until release is prepared.
mod6: i like -verifyall as a cmdline option!
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decimation: "Sanfilippo described Vincenzetti as a very liberal person interested in protecting free speech, someone who saw cryptography as "a means to protect communications." But over time, Vincenzetti's view evidently evolved to allow the security professional to found Hacking Team. "
decimation: gee, I wonder if cash and the fetish of power changed his mind
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mod6: asciilifeform: testnet patch looks good at first read-through. i'll apply these to my sources bases (on top of stator + patches { dump/eat block }) and continue testing. i'll also add these to my build-with-patches guide.
decimation:
http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2533 < "These employees will bring their families to the area. There will also be an influx of welfare families fleeing the city ahead of the drug gangs and predatory police along the bus lines set up at tax payer expense so that you can save 25 cents on a dozen eggs, which requires some schlep to stock them in that upright cooler on a wage that cannot support an automobile."
decimation: "These families—by law—may not have a father. Therefore, 15 years from that Wal-Mart going up, you will have a full generation of violent, rootless, fatherless youth grown up with no sense of community, responsibility, or decency, who will instead be infused with a sense of entitlement, righteous oppression, and slave class envy for you, the guy buying the house down the street as its value plummets. "
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decimation: He's describing the classic 'baptists and bootleggers' economy
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trinque: it's somewhat interesting to note that wikipedia has a german page on hunchentoot, but the english one was deleted.
decimation: Luke did you read the logs in here about the 2hr block time window?
trinque: deleted by some guy that edits a lot of movie/tv pages, south park in particular.
trinque: happened upon that pulling up docs elsewhere
decimation: Luke-Jr: what is your opinion on the recent soft-fork/mining fiasco? Do you think that 950/1000 blocks constitutes any kind of 'consensus'?
Luke-Jr: decimation: softforks require only a majority of miners, not a consensus.
decimation: okay maybe I'm using the term 'soft-fork' to mean something different. What do you call 'block revision increment'?
Luke-Jr: 'block revision increment' has no meaning to me
trinque: Luke-Jr: blocks have a version, do they not?
Luke-Jr: trinque: sure, but they have no particular meaning until defined
decimation: yes, and the meaning is used in the concensus code, which 'activates' after 950/1000 blocks with the new version are seen
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Luke-Jr: decimation: the 950/1000 block definition is specific to BIP66/v3; it's fairly sound, and the recent fiasco is basically unrelated to it
decimation: other than it being the very mechanism which activated it
Luke-Jr: except it wasn't; it just meant there were suddenly people mining invalid blocks
Luke-Jr: had anyone else mined an invalid block for any reason, the SPV miners would have continued those chains too
decimation: 'suddenly invalid'? as if nature itself rejected it?
decimation: 1000 blocks (1 week) seems like a fairly small period to change things
Luke-Jr: I didn't say "suddenly invalid"
Luke-Jr: 95% for 1000 blocks, while only 51% is needed
Luke-Jr: also, it was an ongoing migration that took months
decimation: I get that, but it still seems like a short period
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Luke-Jr: that's just the nature of softforks
decimation: oh, I see. handed down from the ancients who wrote 0.7?
decimation: the point I am driving at is that someone can mine blocks without consenting to anything w.r.t. the codebase
Luke-Jr: it's not a human-made decision at all, it's just how things are
Luke-Jr: I don't see your point. Someone can mine invalid blocks. so what?
decimation: because the meaning of 'invalid' was changed
decimation: before 0.7 there was no code that 'gathered consensus'
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assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 20:46:57; trinque: not bad, hunchentootin' today
Luke-Jr: decimation: it was still possible
Luke-Jr: also there was technically the P2SH code before 0.7 IIRC
trinque: gabriel_laddel: oh, lovely. write a handler, c-x c-k, try it out, repeat
gabriel_laddel: trinque: I heard you just got hyperspec.el setup - do you have SLIME presentations enabled?
gabriel_laddel: you can "inspect" objects returned at the repl by clicking on them
trinque: #<HUNCHENSOCKET:WEBSOCKET-ACCEPTOR (host *, port 8081)>
gabriel_laddel: o nice, then you've pretty much the best of what emacs has to offer for CL development.
trinque: I am still new enough to this to be having a fantastic time.
trinque: though, as it stays out of the goddamn way of the task of programming, I could see never tiring of it
gabriel_laddel: I got serial ports comms working in a *single line* of cl today.
trinque: people who prefer more complicated and disorderly systems seem to think there's some virtue in being able to cram it all into the head (C++...)
trinque: doesn't seem like they then consider whether they have any cranial space left for their problem
trinque: saw you found work writing cl, pretty cool
gabriel_laddel: This is my experience. The C++/.NET code for the device I was communicating with today - 250 lines of code to do what my single line does.
Luke-Jr: k, highlight me if there's more
gabriel_laddel: ^^ I seem to be good at making business people feel confident / happy with me.
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gabriel_laddel: I'm noodling around with the idea of my hunting down contracts for CL people
decimation: Luke-Jr: I need to do more research, thank you for your candor.
gabriel_laddel: But perhaps handling some of the business side of things + gnarly technical tasks.
trinque: depending on the type of consulting, it may be more or less up to you how to actually implement whatever's called for
gabriel_laddel: trinque: in this particular they wanted something that *actually works*
gabriel_laddel: a surprising amount of people simply want subordinates to order around
gabriel_laddel: trinque: are you just playing around with hunchentoot, or writing a production system?
trinque: got something out in the world that runs cl, talks to a web api
trinque: this will be the first server side component
trinque: haven't used the latter with anything mission critical; it was a matter of evaluating it
trinque: but that's the thing I'm rewriting... "pgtoot"
decimation: Luke-Jr: this whole line of action strikes me as backwards. why not produce a spec before forcing changes from the de-facto standard?
gabriel_laddel: so you have a few function calls that diddle the db and you're tying those to routes?
Luke-Jr: decimation: what? BIP 66 has been a spec since January
decimation: I mean a spec that desribes the behaviour of the entire codebase
gabriel_laddel: I wish someone would automate this already. I write the functions, then pass them into `export-functions' which walks the program, generates POST routes for all of them.
Luke-Jr: decimation: because people might interpret it as a spec
trinque: gabriel_laddel: that is precisely what I'm doing
trinque: I've written this in python already
trinque: postgrest looked like it might have a clue early on
trinque: becoming a features katamari shitshow
Luke-Jr: decimation: Bitcoin's rules by nature are defined by the actual software people are using. If a "spec" disagrees with those de facto rules, the "spec" is wrong.
trinque: gabriel_laddel: every web-app ever is just a matter of bolting some table or view to a ui component
trinque: and then letting that component know when the data in question changes
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Luke-Jr: decimation: this is why Bitcoin Core 0.8.0's bug was a bug in 0.8.0 and not the (commonly used) older versions
decimation: Luke-Jr: you see how this has the convinent side-effect of ceding complete authority over 'bitcoin' to the 'bitcoin core' committers?
Luke-Jr: decimation: no, it is to the users - Bitcoin Core 0.8.0 changed the rules, but was not adopted as the new protocol, so it was wrong
Luke-Jr: (it's ironic but true that Mike Hearn has written two changes in Bitcoin Core, and both of them introduced serious bugs..)
Luke-Jr: I didn't really want to be quoted on that
gabriel_laddel: BINGE is a FFI generator for Common Lisp. It parses C source files (header or code, it doesn't mind) and spits out a FFI for your Lisp system of choice. Functions, global variables, types and symbolic constants can be extracted just naming them. Its design is modular so that adding a new FFI API is a matter of few hours. Back-ends for SBCL, CMUCL, LispWorks, UFFI and CLISP are provided.
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mats: !rate moneycat 1 new guy
mats: !v assbot:mats.rate.moneycat.1:801ec5c77ea271e6dad662052dfc4363a1843c6cc5bc53dc6609361c20777a5
assbot: Invalid verfication string.
mats: !v assbot:mats.rate.moneycat.1:801ec5c77ea271e6dad662052dfc4363a1843c6cc5bc53dcd6609361c20777a5
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for moneycat with note: new guy
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williamdunne: Luke-Jr: In fairness, the fact that this is a public logged channel is made quite clear
mats: yet another mitm bug
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mats: "Every person given a government background check for the last 15 years was probably affected, the Office of Personnel Management said in announcing the results of a forensic investigation of the episode, whose existence was known but not its sweeping toll." << lol, fuck. i'm in this db.
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ag3nt_zer0: Wonder if anyone can help ... Am I missing a step when trying to rate somebody? do I have to do something beyond "!rate" command? I ask because I do not see my rating as having appeared to the recipients via BTC Alpha... should I see it or is my rating just not appearing amongst the others because I am not a trusted relationship at this point?
mats: btcalpha updates once a day, ag3nt_zer0
assbot: Logged on 08-07-2015 06:22:31; ag3nt_zer0: !rate shinohai 1 great help to noob
mats: did you decrypt the otp and send it to assbot?
assbot: Logged on 11-07-2015 02:40:47; mats: !v assbot:mats.rate.moneycat.1:801ec5c77ea271e6dad662052dfc4363a1843c6cc5bc53dcd6609361c20777a5
gabriel_laddel: trinque: fyi `trace' doesn't trace across threads in mcclim unless you use M-x slime-trace-dialog
ag3nt_zer0: i mean how long before otp link expires... those arent working from the other day
mats: extraneous space prepended there
ag3nt_zer0: !v assbot:ag3nt_zer0.rate.trinque.1:6cfc2b3e5683499ec7116014e0dccbd14c25d77d8ed9adc92f6df57d4ea8f7f8
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for trinque with note: very helpful to noob
ag3nt_zer0: ;;rate shinohai 1 great assist to newb
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
ag3nt_zer0: !v assbot:ag3nt_zer0.rate.shinohai.1:eecbbcd8e1da919dc77a78e03fc9ef6eb780d132a98b002b39c375244bf75a83
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for shinohai with note: great assist to newb
mats: np. fwiw, you can talk to assbot in PM
assbot: Logged on 26-06-2015 21:39:21; ascii_field:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1178148 << will add to this. in every single field i dive into, i find these 'lisps' - i.e., the ~actual~ state-of-the-art buried under piles of shit strategically crapped out by one, two, more generations of mediocrities
gabriel_laddel: I'd love to have a list of lisps all fields you've dived into if possible.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31621 @ 0.00051075 = 16.1504 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35130 @ 0.00052178 = 18.3301 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5770 @ 0.00052178 = 3.0107 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34930 @ 0.00053341 = 18.632 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-07-2015#1197311 << all this meta comentatory bs. "what has luigi's wive said about giovanni's girlfriend ? what has the mother of the coach's sister said about what the wife said about the girlfriend ? what are people saying about what people said about what was said about some talks some said they had at some point regarding what was said earlier ?"
assbot: Logged on 11-07-2015 01:10:17; decimation: "Sanfilippo described Vincenzetti as a very liberal person interested in protecting free speech, someone who saw cryptography as "a means to protect communications." But over time, Vincenzetti's view evidently evolved to allow the security professional to found Hacking Team. "
decimation: I think most 'adults' in the west would prefer to live in a tv program
decimation: and/or imagine that they would be 'good' in one
mircea_popescu: i don't even give a shit who this vincenzetti derp is. why the fuck would i now care about a sanfilippo derp
cazalla: meh i just saw pgp in the headline, read it and thought perhaps might appeal to others here
mircea_popescu: equires some schlep << why do people insist to use words in languages they don't speak.
mircea_popescu: it's almost as bad as sleeping with women you don't own.
decimation: mircea_popescu: 90% of modern 'journalism' is 'the story behind the story behind the story', most of which is bullshit
mircea_popescu skips the Luke-Jr, vexual etc lines in the logs. not sure why people keep feeding the weird, but anway.
decimation: I was curious about the particular census mechanism, and the degree of support amoung 'bitcoin core' 'devs'
mircea_popescu: might as well ask whats his face "bitcoin godfather" about gaming or keiser's ho whatever her name was about "telejournalism"
decimation: it would make great foddler for journalism, his answers
mircea_popescu: just... you know, go ask reddit what it thinks on reddit, and the power rangers on #power-rangers or wherever the fuck they hang out these days.
mircea_popescu: i especially do not appreciate the b-a equivalent of a convicted felon being treated as he may have an opinion on matters.