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(trilema) ben_vulpes: hail broseidon
(trilema) ben_vulpes: RIDE NEVER ENDS RIDE NEVER ENDS RIDE NEVER ENDS
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can you speak to why ada's usgenesis shouldn't set off klaxons?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'd certainly rather feed racoons with food taped to my body than figure out how to position elements relative to each other
(trilema) ben_vulpes: holy shit does browser positioning fail to respect the right hand rule?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: keeping my two cents in the tattoo jar
(trilema) ben_vulpes makes a note to name the next box lilith
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell adlai "adlai i"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Version: 'p' sqrt(etotheipi, give or take a kelvin) << adlaii re-found this amusing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski what, the numbers mean something now?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're probably digging out from under months of ;;later's
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh man i don't even recall the context for that question offhand
(trilema) ben_vulpes: does anyone remember a story about a last-minute us presidential candidacy that was run on highly personally target emails?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i hadn't realized it to be an os
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ever mess around much with cola/jolt/pepsi/idst/friends?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the "not a vote for b, but a vote against everything else" line made me tilt my head.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: talk to trinque about that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: when i get my sigil of lilith down i'll do those too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: pentagrams only.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://i.imgur.com/ewl8iQF.jpg << the white metallic ink pilot g2's have arrived.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sorry kakobrekla, was that me?!
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(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: 2016?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: moreover how does one know that any commenter on bitbet is a bettor? are they 'signing' things with the appropriate privkeys now?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: now credits the howling monkeys outside of the wot with accomplishing things?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu issued a receipt and all
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so was my ticket to con3, by mthreat.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eerily reminiscient of the commerce clause. "in addition to these explicit terms in our favor, we may decide in the future to do other things."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: nowhere in there does it say "if we overpay and can identify the people to whom we overpaid, we'll clawback funds from those addresses."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: a broker'd not have to share keys with anyone.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2016#1438613 << on the n+1 thread, consider also the broker, asciilifeform.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other news, i finally put a tv in the conference room and it is now apparently the dedicated "5 hours of rocket explosions on a loop" device
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why would you put food in that plastic
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pretty good example of the "promise" end of the spectrum.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mrottenkolber: forgive my thickness but /why/ are you doing this?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is a special hell of paranoia, asciilifeform.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: boxes do not get delivered to your domicile?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and only if used as a hammer and not microscope.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps the *other* way to go about this is simply to make patches against the base 0.5.3, and then anyone wanting to apply them may do so in whatever order they choose, resolving conflicts as they feel.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes but you like pain
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what about this is fancy?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that way i can rebase, etc whenever i care to.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i press to confirm patch validity and then commit the changes to my local version controlatron.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-11-2015#1329599 << summarization also relies on knowing precisely what /can/ be snipped.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have been failing to shit words on the topic out because i think of familiarity with it. it all seems so obvious!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: another good topic is "specificity of diddling".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'twas not actually that hard, but it did take knowing the variety speak thoroughly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i recently took a 45 minute sojourn into the history of "protocol vs. promise"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fitting in head requires lopping all extraneous log comments off.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: motherfucking moving target
(trilema) ben_vulpes hands trinque a pineapple and broomstick
(trilema) ben_vulpes: stay limber in your head and effective at your keyboard, and do everything manually why not
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is this automating of the mental reactor rods!?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, people don't maintain their own list of books as suggested by the individuals in chan?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it hints at ameliorating my concerns.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: still thinking.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "this may contain pernicious hdd-wrecking nasties i'm unaware of, but is the closest thing to a bitcoinator i know of"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "this bitcoinates - i do swear"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was even uncomfortable signing the genesis vpatch. what does that even mean -- "this is actually some variant of satoshi's hairball"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is, so far, no "this sucks, but it introduces no new lies" bit.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right now, i expect to sign something half-baked that then crashes on some dirigible and gets me excommunicated
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've been waiting for the "what does a signature convey" conversation to sign anything.
(trilema) ben_vulpes runs to logs, sees an infinity percent increase in traffic
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: kill -9
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a route around the sybils perhaps?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and if the two parties are engaged in commerce, at least there must be an open channel to those consuming the digests.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if nonce demand is kept high enough, anyone operating a node that can produce digests has something of value to miners.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: s/tool/constraint
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: could the digest be a tool for node operators to ensure access to miners?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "gotta dilute something!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitbet under ddos?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: a) why is that and b) out of whose piggy?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: assuming: betbet revenue is 100x divs (fault in several ways), and 2500 hours of time, and 0.4% of bitbet revenue to mods implies a .18 btc/hr mod rate. perverse incentive, though.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't see how it can continue without mods and hosting on the books.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432214 << mircea_popescu, kakobrekla: this was all very rude and uncalled for, my apologies
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: could be convinced
(trilema) ben_vulpes: make life easy on the miners? why bother.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's the point of the shift?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: holmes i can read 10mb of json into memory naively and not even begin to sweat the phone.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i cannot imagine what is going on over there.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "the blob is like 10kb -- is that too much?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "is the JSON too nesty?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "why is the app broken?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you don't *have* to do /anything/, mircea_popescu!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the 'umble shoemaker, dedicated to sitting on his ass and never doing anything, will starve in this town until he turns to making fashionable shoes with heels and lace instead of the sturdy things in which men tromp through mud.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'tis not quite yet a place where one makes 130k predicated on 140k in living expenses, more like 80k in living expenses.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways phf, yes, alphabet corp friends and acquaintances are all having a grand party with the low cost of living.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: something must be on the books for there to be any book value, etc.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more looking to the future
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no shoulds on offer here.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey it looked like a good idea!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "assetti null" or some such well-coined whatever.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'm illiterate!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: on only a tangentially related topic, when do we get the B.H.-style AN1 that retains all earnings /in/ the corp?
(trilema) ben_vulpes too depressed about lemon markets to dance for old men and 'rounds' this quarter, probably ever
(trilema) ben_vulpes starves, withers on the vine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "great idea! i guess we don't need any custom software after all."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "are you sure you wouldn't rather secure a loan with that 50k and set up a shop on squarespace?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "nice people die first in holodomor"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: that's an advantage. i can't fleece people effectively with software, being too honest.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: saving people from software is mostly thankless and rewardless.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: i clearly have no business being in business.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: it's 400k for a mobile app if you bring your own designer, 50-200k if we design it, 10-40k for a single-purpose webapp with minimal frills and if you need a website, well, squarespace is over there. heck, they even do ecomm, and better than any wordprex.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i will be astonished if bitbet actually goes into receivership.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ofc not for sale, asciilifeform.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: with a deadman's switch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: hand fabricated lakebed racer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: let's just think about 'mods' for a moment.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: tis the Great Divestment.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitbet is dead.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: why would anyone step into receivership. a fee of anything less than the bill is lulzy small and will tar the receiver. doing it for free is chumpishly cleaning up mircea_popescu's mess.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how could i be so thick and naive! asciilifeform points out that the coffers might not even contain anything.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: don't be thick, asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey vex back for the drama?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-03-2016#1431714 << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432045 << upon consideration the (absurd! ridiculous! i don't understand how the world works!) schelling point is for kakobrekla and mircea_popescu to split the haul
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'not ready for primetime' fault of bitcoin
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-03-2016#1431681 << a) a rose by any other trust backers would smell as sweet i'm sure b) i missed the part of this saga where this is not the
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mk. then the contractual obligation bitbet is failing to uphold leading to its delisting would be kakobrekla's declining to convey his acceptance of the statement, without which shareholders cannot be paid out?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "aforementioned signed document" refers to "special spreadsheet"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: bbet contract 3.1d refers to 3.1b, correct?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and be in the wot.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps mircea_popescu plays a different game here though.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: game theoretically permawedges obviously.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nice little construction.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is going to be hung, as the receiver will have to answer as to the disposition of your charge, and either way one of the founders is going to refuse an unfriendly nominee.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ultimately though it'd just be you and kako hearing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also auction not the best model, lowest bidding receiver is not a particularly good idea.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: see 4.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: for that to happen, the receiver'd have to invalidate mircea_popescu's charge.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: probably /also/ already disqualified for stating his opinions on the matter.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who is going to even contemplate stepping into receiver's role in this context?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: elementary questions like "wtf -- paid twice?!" are dismissed with "you just don't understand how bitcoin works".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no fucking engine. brick wall a mile high.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: into completely opaque steel walls no less.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've been told that i have no business saying anything about bitbet's business, ascii_field.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what fucking tragedy.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nor can you pay bettors out after yourself in the process of dissolution.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "I will simply consider the matter moot." << and keep bettor funds if no receiver steps forward?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh ffs BingoBoingo with the mythical miner cartel
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the problem appears to not be "unexpected expense" but a disagreement between the founders as to the legitimacy of the expense.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: your verditc is 'hrown matches'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at least i only had to type my password the *first* time i booted bitcoin under gdb
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is only the creeping hell
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is no getting away fluffypony
(trilema) ben_vulpes: let's just cram all the things i hate about my life into one tidy little package
(trilema) ben_vulpes: here's to the grand unified microsoft-brand-linux-that-can-build-ios-apps
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > wintermute
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so there are includes in both .h and .cpp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i looked at main's imports and didn't see it including any other bitcoind namespaces pulling in the openssl/sha files
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: while i have your attention, do you have any idea how the various SHA256_Init, _Transform functions get into main.cpp?
(trilema) ben_vulpes is pleased to see suspicions confirmed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also dafuq is up with that name
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp#2671 << is there a good reason to be doing this check inside ScanHash_CryptoPP's loop rather than just returning from SC_CPP on each iteration?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: read that as "quote as fuck" for half a second
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: none taken
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also, fuck cars.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: utterly hilarious
(trilema) ben_vulpes: burn it with fire
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nifty roulette wheel
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the link at the bottom of the website
(trilema) ben_vulpes: funkenstein_: spacity.website does not
(trilema) ben_vulpes: woulda taken all of ten minutes to swing through the office and you'd have left with at least three bottles of literally unprocureable elsewhere dundee wines
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