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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00050404 = 14.718 BTC [+]
assbot: HUMAN - Floral Penis Pattern Blue - Homedecor | Pillow ... ( http://bit.ly/1UQ8NBf )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00049588 = 10.2647 BTC [-]
assbot: Microsoft Left Impaired AI To Suffer Twitter Humiliation | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/25oghQW )
BingoBoingo: Breaking: Multiple Black people reportedly injured in several police raids, more to come once filtered by Pravda
shinohai: this is microsoft innovationz see
BingoBoingo: Nah, there's prior art, see Vexual
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell Vexual I'm sorry I've been ignoring you for months, but I've got to take my sobriety seriously if I want to live
gribble: The operation succeeded.
shinohai had a dream that Vexual was really TradeFortress and was trolling us all.
BingoBoingo: Vexual doesn't sound asian enough, but who knows
deedbot-: [Qntra] US Animal Suicides Require Motorist Warning - http://qntra.net/2016/03/us-animal-suicides-require-motorist-warning/
deedbot-: [Qntra] Verisign Patent Filing Covers Cryptocurrency Signing Scheme - http://qntra.net/2016/03/verisign-patent-filing-covers-cryptocurrency-signing-scheme/
deedbot-: [Qntra] Chicago To 'scape Around Hole - http://qntra.net/2016/03/chicago-to-scape-around-hole/
deedbot-: [Qntra] Small Usenet Provider In France Raided As Terrorists Strike Europe - http://qntra.net/2016/03/small-usenet-provider-in-france-raided-as-terrorists-strike-europe/
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-03-2016#1440210 >> 'A France-based Usenet provider says that his service has been raided and shutdown by the police. The 5,000 user 'Newsoo' service appears to have been a labor of love for its owner, but all data is now in the hands of authorities after he was arrested. A long-standing complaint by anti-piracy outfit SACEM appears to have been the trigger.' << what's next, 'last jewish s
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2016 15:01:08; deedbot-: [Qntra] Small Usenet Provider In France Raided As Terrorists Strike Europe - http://qntra.net/2016/03/small-usenet-provider-in-france-raided-as-terrorists-strike-europe/
asciilifeform: htetl in poland burned' ???
BingoBoingo: Well, if burned by police while EU capital is under assault
asciilifeform: cattle being slaughtered is a-ok. cattle sharing 133337 w4r3z!111111?!
asciilifeform had nfi there were any shtetl^H^H^H^H^H^Husenet isps left to burn
mats: 650tb, nice
asciilifeform: http://www.qlforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=321 << l0ltr0n1c, strictly for aficionados:
assbot: The QL Forum • View topic - Native 68k vs Coldfire vs FPGA vs recompilation ? ... ( http://bit.ly/22KRK6t )
asciilifeform: 'n the first ARM project I did, based on a TMS ARM M3 implementation, we found 2 bugs in the CPU and 4 in the GPU. These will actually never be corrected - the chips have already been declared obsolete, and new ones are out, with their own bugs. Sometimes the very implementation is asking for it - the last ARM-based MPU I used could easily be set to have memory cycles that end before they even start, completely needles and idi
asciilifeform: otic lack of thinking on the developer's part, because it does not get trapped by the in-circuit development hardware, but instead crashes the core... so out comes the 20-year old trusted Tektronix scope. So much for advanced development tools.'
BingoBoingo: !up PaulCapestany
BingoBoingo: lol asciilifeform
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i've been looking for the mythical beast of 'who still makes mc68k' for many years
asciilifeform: (answer: nobody)
BingoBoingo: That's the same conclusion I've had to reach
PaulCapestany: BingoBoingo hello
BingoBoingo: hello PaulCapestany
PaulCapestany: BingoBoingo what's up
BingoBoingo: Not all that much
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: well, not quite nobody, i did find a single solitary factory still making'em, $10 in qty 100+
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it is part of my 'find the oldest silicon that could, potentially, bitcoinate in real time' thing.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But do these new ones process a bitcoin block in under 10 minutes?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: block verification parallelizes to infinity
asciilifeform: the question becomes, ~how many~ of them.
BingoBoingo: !Up da2ce7
asciilifeform: ^ the last remaining, afaik ^
asciilifeform: same part as found in ti-92 calculator, circa mid-90s
asciilifeform: freescale co. bought the rights long ago
PaulCapestany: BingoBoingo how does a L1 bitcoin-assets n00b like myself level-up to L2? (was looking on wiki, but haven't come across an explanation yet..)
asciilifeform: PaulCapestany: one 'levels up', if at all, ~from~ l2 to l1.
asciilifeform: !gettrust PaulCapestany
assbot: Trust relationship from user asciilifeform to user PaulCapestany: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=asciilifeform&to=PaulCapestany | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/PaulCapestany/
PaulCapestany: asciilifeform ah, gotcha
PaulCapestany: asciilifeform ooo.. thx (i think? heh)
asciilifeform: PaulCapestany: click the link, you will understand what is meant here
PaulCapestany: asciilifeform yeah I'm lookin
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Aha, I've got one of those
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Just don't have anything that runs 'top' on it yet to my knowledge
BingoBoingo: !up PaulCapestany
BingoBoingo: PaulCapestany: A good place to start would be !upping yourself
PaulCapestany: !up PaulCapestany
PaulCapestany: that's not what you meant I take it
PaulCapestany: still reading about WoT
shinohai: !rate nubbins` -10 I'll wear this as a badge of honour from a person too cowardly to negrate me in logs.
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shinohai: !v assbot:shinohai.rate.nubbins`.-10:5417e802cf552217b0d3e0b7aba06e484814858f4cc1d6c3b129cd2bda92beef
assbot: Successfully added a rating of -10 for nubbins` with note: I'll wear this as a badge of honour from a person too cowardly to negrate me in logs.
PaulCapestany: BingoBoingo so I can !up myself via msg to assbot I see.. got it
BingoBoingo: PaulCapestany: I forget, what dustup were you notable for?
PaulCapestany: BingoBoingo hahah
PaulCapestany: "threatening" Bitcoin Classic "team"
PaulCapestany: the "reporter" got stuff wrong, but I thought it was cute that it got posted on news.bitcoin.com → https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-classic-developers-receiving-threats-rbitcoin-mods/
assbot: Are Bitcoin Classic Developers Receiving Threats from /r/Bitcoin Mods? - Bitcoin News ... ( http://bit.ly/1MpZ438 )
BingoBoingo: What did you threaten to take Marshmallow Long's donuts?
shinohai: isn't news.bitcoin.com a VERified site?
assbot: Roger VERified Outlet Gets Into Ether Huffing | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1RrI1Nn )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00049785 = 13.442 BTC [+]
shinohai: I ask myself every day why fate has not allowed us the pleasure of fireworks blowing Roger Ver's balls off.
BingoBoingo: The USG saved him from that fate
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-03-2016#1440256 << i also have one, they cost pennies in surplus shops. but i use it for its original purpose; it makes a poor linux box, no usable i/o.
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2016 17:13:47; BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Just don't have anything that runs 'top' on it yet to my knowledge
BingoBoingo: It's got the jack on it for i/o
asciilifeform: it has the external jack, you can get 300 baud iirc.
asciilifeform: but no way to attach mass storage etc
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-03-2016#1440262 << aha l0l he silently -'d me also, without even a creative annotation
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2016 17:19:29; shinohai: !rate nubbins` -10 I'll wear this as a badge of honour from a person too cowardly to negrate me in logs.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-03-2016#1440270 << i find myself less and less interested in what happens in the heathen worlds.
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2016 17:30:10; PaulCapestany: the "reporter" got stuff wrong, but I thought it was cute that it got posted on news.bitcoin.com → https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-classic-developers-receiving-threats-rbitcoin-mods/
asciilifeform: i care about wars between reddits about as much as i care about the competing anthills in the forest.
PaulCapestany: asciilifeform reddit wars are dumb, agreed, but I got concerned when people like Rick Falkvinge were starting to post on r/bitcoin about how Bitcoin Classic was a good idea.. the misinformation and propaganda that had been going on seemed to have worked on some people
asciilifeform: !s falkvinge
assbot: 11 results for 'falkvinge' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=falkvinge
danielpbarron: pirate party guy?
assbot: Logged on 18-01-2016 18:06:37; punkman: lol Falkvinge, "If there's no profit to be made in using bitcoin as a drop-in replacement for credit card payments, bitcoin will not be deployed at scale. Deployment and outcompeting legacy systems depend entirely on merchant financial gains from rollout."
PaulCapestany: danielpbarron yeah
PaulCapestany: danielpbarron falkvinge has lotsa followers, and is supposed to be pro decentralization...
danielpbarron: there's relevant Eulora spash text : the worst thing you can wish on your enemy is that he gets lots of followers (or something like that, I'm paraphrasing)
PaulCapestany: people in here are generally anti-Classic I presume? would my supposed threat against Classic earn me any street cred (or WoT cred) here?
BingoBoingo: <PaulCapestany> people in here are generally anti-Classic I presume? would my supposed threat against Classic earn me any street cred (or WoT cred) here? << anti-Classic, anti-"Core" etc
PaulCapestany: BingoBoingo ah, yeah, ya'll have your own sorta stripped-down fork, correct? if I wanted to read up on the reasoning behind that, what'd be a good link?
BingoBoingo: thebitcoin.foundation
BingoBoingo: And it isn't so much a fork as... "historical artifact conveying truth" (TM)(R)
mircea_popescu: PaulCapestany your what ?
PaulCapestany: mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: PaulCapestany " would my supposed threat against Classic earn me any street cred (or WoT cred) here?" << link, something ?
assbot: Are Bitcoin Classic Developers Receiving Threats from /r/Bitcoin Mods? - Bitcoin News ... ( http://bit.ly/1MpZ438 )
mircea_popescu: lmao. so reddit is copying me on the quiet, forgets to link anything and is all "hey, we're cool" ?
PaulCapestany: copying you?
PaulCapestany: (p.s. I'm not a r/Bitcoin mod)
mircea_popescu: what's the relation then ?
mircea_popescu: all i see in that title is http://trilema.com/2015/theres-a-one-bitcoin-reward-for-the-death-of-pieter-wuille-details-below/ re-done by lesser people who aim to avoid confronting their ulterior inferiority through lalala.
assbot: There's a one Bitcoin reward for the death of Pieter Wuille. Details below. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1lxiG9S )
PaulCapestany: that was just shitty "reporting" in the case of the article... I'm not a r/bitcoin mod, but I guess my 'claim to fame' was that I was co-organizer of a big bitcoin developer meetup in SF
mircea_popescu: and yes i imagine there's some cred to be had for doing that, but only in america.
mircea_popescu: well, if anyone here went to the thing that you organized and liked it, they might rate you, sure.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, the bar for "conference organizer" as an identity pillar includes tits & gtfo and so on. it's a job dita von teese gets cred for, typically.
PaulCapestany: fair enough ;)
mircea_popescu: anyway. lulz at the entire "we'll talk about things in the vague and be all pretentious and shit" junior high ugly girl club thing. i'm so impressed i almost think the whole prb/mit/blabla crowd of shitheads is worth pissing on.
mircea_popescu: and with that, off to have drinks
shinohai cheers mircea_popescu
ben_vulpes: does anyone remember a story about a last-minute us presidential candidacy that was run on highly personally target emails?
pete_dushenski: ;;nethash
gribble: 1212308843.07
assbot: PSA: Don’t pay the bitcoin ransom. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1UhWcs2 )
assbot: Logged on 24-03-2016 00:28:16; ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.pete_dushenski.1:32d4e07d5e4f0c2c482c2232734c5fefb5d97343fb690b93c90e378d62869594
assbot: Urban Dictionary: Weeaboo ... ( http://bit.ly/1UhXrHC )
jurov: pete_dushenski: i did sell some btc to be paid to cryptolocker and there was an admin
jurov: but he complained he proposed to install seafile server (which I shown him to exist) that would work nicely with their windows boxes
jurov: but they did not want to pay for the work
pete_dushenski: i've also sold btc to 'it professional' who had client with cryptolocker. this was ~2 years ago though and i haven't heard any reports of a second or third hit.
pete_dushenski: though i have a tough time imagining that anything in terms of digital security has changed with either that client or his 'professional' since.
pete_dushenski: why no more hits ? goodness only knows.
pete_dushenski: 'who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men' (tm) (r)
jurov: there are enough targets
pete_dushenski: but other targets might not pay is the thing
pete_dushenski: once one target has coughed up danegeld, surely they'll continue
jurov: also, it's not "windows" thing. plenty of linux servers were backdoored, but there it's more profitable/convenient to resell the server resources that to extort the admin
jurov: *than to
pete_dushenski: wait, so hackers backdoor linux server and resell hosting on it, unbeknownst to the 'owner' of the box ?
jurov: yes, usually they "host" malware there
jurov: but server with good pipe has million uses
pete_dushenski: aha. anyways, for casinos specifically, it ~is~ a windows thing. at least for the operations around here.
pete_dushenski: their portable machines run windows ce even
jurov: you see - they are used to pay for licenses. whether to m$ or to extortionist, makes a little difference
jurov: hm, that makes me wonder how many businesses are paying for such "protection" every month already
pete_dushenski: in most of the world, most. whether it's greasing the local mob or the local bureaucrat makes little practical difference. it's the way of the world.
pete_dushenski: this 'protection'/extortion business model could be just the gravity well extractor that guys like asciilifeform need. it can even be done from laptop on beach!
jurov: but if your mobster has access to *all* your data and communication... that's another level
jurov: asciilifeform explicitly rejects anything he'd have to pay taxes from, that's lost cause
jurov: his professed utter inability to function as mobster aside
pete_dushenski: it's a craft, like any other.
assbot: Story of cities #5: Benin City, the mighty medieval capital now lost without trace | Cities | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ui1xQ3 )
pete_dushenski: "Situated on a plain, Benin City was enclosed by massive walls in the south and deep ditches in the north. Beyond the city walls, numerous further walls were erected that separated the surroundings of the capital into around 500 distinct villages.
pete_dushenski: Pearce writes that these walls “extended for some 16,000 km in all, in a mosaic of more than 500 interconnected settlement boundaries. They covered 6,500 sq km and were all dug by the Edo people … They took an estimated 150 million hours of digging to construct, and are perhaps the largest single archaeological phenomenon on the planet”."
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Check your pending comments
pete_dushenski: it's live ?
BingoBoingo: Oh, ty
BingoBoingo: must have loaded before poasted
pete_dushenski: heh what's the backstory behind 'lunix' ?
BingoBoingo: Oh, it's just what Ubuntu is, see https://i.sli.mg/uga6Y7.png calves could not pass A4 challenge because drepper
pete_dushenski: 'lunix' also has etymology of 'luna', which maps well to those same fat-ass proportions
phf: pete_dushenski: lunix is of course jeff k tradition, and there's not much to it, besides arbitrary switching letters, but it helps that the result sounds durp
phf: i.e. I RUN LUNIX IS 1337 H4X0R I H4CK UUUU~~11
phf: i dunno if there's acceptable usage at this point, since the jeff k culture is long dead, in waves and waves and waves of eternal september
phf: (jeff k is of course a something awful spoof of a teenage script kiddie culture of late 90s, that in turn spun off 4chan culture. old fags remember, that early /b/ was essentially a bunch of snarky mofos pretending to be jeff k style idiots, which in turn eternally september into actual idiots acting like idiots, etc)
BingoBoingo: dayum, phf dropping the history bomb
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20550 @ 0.00049784 = 10.2306 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Britain’s flat idea to tax soda and other sugary drinks - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1URkg3v )
BingoBoingo: Obesity doesn
BingoBoingo: 't justify taxation
BingoBoingo: It however jusitfies estherification and Biodiesel
BingoBoingo: !up cazalla_
cazalla_: ty BingoBoingo (cbf getting out the laptop right now)
cazalla_: as for soda (fizzy drink tax), nfi about the UK, but that consumption of that has been on the decline here for years
cazalla_: i imagine obesity is more the result of icecream for breakfast than occasional coke
jurov: i knew people who drank liter or two of coke daily
BingoBoingo: The idiocracy guy was wrong here in the states. In future 'Murica carbonation will be "what plants crave"
pete_dushenski: cazalla_: better ice cream for breakfast than at midnight
cazalla_: jurov sure, but how common is that today? for example, coca cola amatil (aussie coke listed company) expanded into indonesia and it has been a disaster, no-one wants their shit
jurov: dunno about indonesia, in eastern europe very common. even my dad can't be convinced not to buy it
pete_dushenski: bucharesti kid i know, bout my age, drinks 2l of coke per day. smokes pretty heavily too.
pete_dushenski: this is only seen in lower class canadians but is apparently perfectly reasonable in middle class romanians
jurov: cazalla_ is prolly surrounded by health-minded canucks.. but the cocacola revenue must have come from somewhere
BingoBoingo: jurov: Here I don't know that fountain sodas under a liter are sold anywhere
cazalla_: don't see how teh tax will change anything anyway, consumers will just pay it as no other option (sif they're gonna drink water)
jurov: they will switch to *blergh* sweeteners
cazalla_: i bought a stevia plant last year, not bad to nom nom on a few leaves when wanting something sugary
jurov: yes i like stevia too.. but for someone who is used to high sugar concentrations, stevia has unsavory taste
jurov: - good only if you want to sweeten a bit
BingoBoingo: !up cazalla_
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00049766 = 4.8771 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00049766 = 8.9081 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63000 @ 0.00049626 = 31.2644 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 50000 @ 0.0000825 = 4.125 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: !up gloubiboulga
pete_dushenski: http://transmash-omsk.ru/node/690 << for armoured fire truck afficionados
assbot: Первые серийные образцы СПМ отправились к заказчику | ОАО Омсктрансмаш ... ( http://bit.ly/1Rr4iZs )
kakobrekla: !s odroid
assbot: 3 results for 'odroid' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=odroid
assbot: Veteran dies after setting himself on fire outside New Jersey VA clinic - Washington Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1MHKTS2 )
mike_c: well, glad to see I didn't miss much recently :D
ben_vulpes: mike_c!
mike_c: good evening
ben_vulpes: bon soir
mike_c: <ben_vulpes> ;;later tell mike_c does your wot thinger spit out json anywhere?
mike_c: no - it seemed too duplicative of http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/kakobrekla/json
ben_vulpes: heh man i don't even recall the context for that question offhand
mike_c: :)
ben_vulpes: you're probably digging out from under months of ;;later's
assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 15:11:05; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c here's a thought, in http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/ might be a good idea to hide users not seen in i dunno, a quarter ? a year ? something ? explained, and with link for "full list".
mike_c: that's a good idea, filters for the list
BingoBoingo: Welcome back mike_c! How's IRL been?
mike_c: busy! new job + new kid pretty well killed me
mike_c: but new job is settling in (as is new kid)
mike_c: I was thinking about you BingoBoingo when Rubio quit
mike_c: your wager lasted longer than mine, which died with Jeb
danielpbarron: a lot of stuff died with Jeb
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski what, the numbers mean something now?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Thank you. I dunno what all you kept up with, but if you missed it I sobered up. And of course all sorts of other goings have been on.
ben_vulpes: Version: 'p' sqrt(etotheipi, give or take a kelvin) << adlaii re-found this amusing
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell adlai "adlai i"
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mike_c: Congrats and good luck.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 415.91, vol: 2510.39185521 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 416.038, vol: 4337.57516 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 418.0, vol: 4111.54610448 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 421.99, vol: 1.26248667 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 419.77007, vol: 21018.64610000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 417.56, vol: 1029.46498739 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 419.595948, vol: 22.42642754 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 418.697377592
mike_c: last seen filters added - http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/
assbot: WoT Overview - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/231wU3S )
mike_c: defaults to last 6 months. because you know, sometimes someone worthwhile disappears for 4 months.
mike_c: Time for bed. I'll be around again now.
ben_vulpes: wb mike_c
mike_c: thanks!
asciilifeform: wb mike_c !
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2016 20:41:44; jurov: you see - they are used to pay for licenses. whether to m$ or to extortionist, makes a little difference
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-03-2016#1440358 << i wonder why pete_dushenski did not likewise suggest spamming. it has exactly the same 'hollywood tournament market' profit distribution. ftr i was a malware hunter and exterminator for some years. 99+% of ransomware artists made ~0.
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2016 20:48:10; pete_dushenski: this 'protection'/extortion business model could be just the gravity well extractor that guys like asciilifeform need. it can even be done from laptop on beach!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55650 @ 0.00049429 = 27.5072 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2016 21:41:20; BingoBoingo: It however jusitfies estherification and Biodiesel
asciilifeform: danielpbarron or other biblical scholar wants to answer this riddle ^ ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's what you do to biologically sourced oils to make them a functional diesel
asciilifeform: esterification
BingoBoingo: But that to a person
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-03-2016#1440394 << i remember my first taste of the stuff, a distant relative brought in a bottle (the old-school glass kind, with the trademarked shape) -- 'it is like eating a hive of bees'
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2016 21:49:28; jurov: dunno about indonesia, in eastern europe very common. even my dad can't be convinced not to buy it
BingoBoingo: The extra h turns it into a recognizable people name
mod6: mike_c!
mod6: <+mike_c> Time for bed. I'll be around again now. << cool, man. talk to you tomorrow
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-03-2016#1440412 << according to link, 'for extinguishing conflagrations at arsenals and storehouses of explosive materials'
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2016 23:51:26; pete_dushenski: http://transmash-omsk.ru/node/690 << for armoured fire truck afficionados
danielpbarron: heh, i accidentally named a computer 'ester' when I meant to name it 'esther'
ben_vulpes makes a note to name the next box lilith
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