(trilema) diana_coman: but I have to admit that I wouldn't say that I actually have any political experience.
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: politics is a very alien thing ; and tbh part of the exercise I see precisely in actually showing what that is as opposed to what it "came to be"; similar to what "afaceri" seems to mean if you look at "afaceristi" and so on
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: well yes, I saw that (list includes parties that were registered, even if not existing anymore)
(trilema) diana_coman: reading the list of romanian parties from tmb.ro yields all sorts of lol including "party of pensioners and social protection" that became of people and social protection
(trilema) diana_coman: certainly; not as if one's own problems are not generally more than enough to keep one busy.
(trilema) diana_coman: well no, there is no national specific re human needs after all
(trilema) diana_coman: basically for a different hole that they think it'll fill
(trilema) diana_coman: others (generally younger) who already have in fact the employer-master taking the food-responsibiliy off their shoulders will look up instead to usr/pdl/wtf (I can't quite recall whatever they are nowadays)
(trilema) diana_coman: lacking that, some (generally older but not only) will look up to psd as it (seems to, at least) takes responsibility for their food at least (poisoned as it might be but...);
(trilema) diana_coman: re ro politics, while my hometown is one in which ~everything is "political" (petrol industry), that part was always more about feathering X's or Y's nest so I wouldn't use that to get an idea of anything; onth re what I see as political, the way the situation in Ro reads to me is that ultimately people are desperately (and beyond i.e. without hope) looking for someone to take responsibility aka a master essentially.
(trilema) diana_coman: myeah
(trilema) diana_coman: numai cine n-a chiar trait la sat/ vorbit pe bune cu oamenii de acolo crede c-ar fi ceva asa extraordinar si de neintalnit
(trilema) diana_coman: I don't think there is much that in there; different sorts of ridoinculous as far as I can see i.e. the schmuck that found himself with money vs the schmucks that found themselves "writing a newspaper".
(trilema) diana_coman: da' in tot cazul, biata bunica
(trilema) diana_coman: "a aderat la un cult si din aceasta cauza a devenit de nerecunoscut"
(trilema) diana_coman: well, hard to believe she hadn't previous training ignoring his bla bla so ..
(trilema) diana_coman: I had to switch to another machine to load that bzi stuff; that photo is basically "happy trio with various caps and beretts"
(trilema) diana_coman: funny how the elect are ~always those unlikely to have much chance fighting back
(trilema) diana_coman: ye olde approach, time-tested on "rules"
(trilema) diana_coman: and I'm quite sure it also ignores them down the line anyway i.e. whatever you tick or not tick, it still does the same thing
(trilema) diana_coman: well, one uniform or another; being about as "right" as choosing that uniform over the other
(trilema) diana_coman: reading it now, I seriously doubt the dorks in question knew all the words in there
(trilema) diana_coman: 'dat font where d battles t...
(trilema) diana_coman: heh, I'm probably too much used to ground-up building work i.e. if starting that then will have to get it off the ground with own hands if need be; hence -> time.
(trilema) diana_coman: no; you can however spend it on something else and I somehow never manage to run out of "something else"; but yes, I can see the idea; I don't know about who is there to do all the work and get it all growing
(trilema) diana_coman: time is the only real cost there.
(trilema) diana_coman: myeah; onth if one does *everything* that is cheap because it's cheap...
(trilema) diana_coman: yes, but I'm still trying to grok if it's ...worth it; lol, my problems.
(trilema) diana_coman: pretty much, yes
(trilema) diana_coman: there for.
(trilema) diana_coman: I mean: for the lulz,sure; other than that though, wtf would I want to be there.
(trilema) diana_coman: well, the way I see it, europarliament like everything else will soon be for everyone, they might even drag you in or something
(trilema) diana_coman: ah, you mean as a sort of practical irl item
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: as a sort of tmsr.ro ? or what would the difference be exactly as I don't quite grok in what way a "political party" is not already included in tmsr as it were
(trilema) diana_coman: ahahah "giant of fun, adventure and science"
(trilema) diana_coman: no penguins, arctic foxes and northern lights there either, according to the other-side criteria
(trilema) diana_coman: cluj is snowy north? ahahaha
(trilema) diana_coman: well, spring, unpredictable.
(trilema) diana_coman: about 14 degrees here in suddenly-sunny england, lolz; tbf at 6am there were only 8-9 but that's ...refreshing at that hour.
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-06#1911324 -> yes, it's a brick of a book but in fact not really dense or anything; everytime I haul it out of the shelf and onto the table I inevitably wonder why exactly is it so heavy really.
(trilema) diana_coman: eh, people are quite terrible at estimating anyway and when it's plain guesstimate esp so.
(trilema) diana_coman: ah, right; there it is, the one thing indeed.
(trilema) diana_coman: for that matter I'm not even sure what exactly are they *less* conservative about, anyway
(trilema) diana_coman: ah, that yes
(trilema) diana_coman: aha; basically having done the work and spoke the words, it takes all of 3 minutes, sure; as always.
(trilema) diana_coman: the "had what to point to and knew what to ask for" sounds superficially a "point and babble" sort of thing; doesn't work quite that well if that's ALL there is to it
(trilema) diana_coman: also knew what he was pointing at, lolz
(trilema) diana_coman: hotelmoskva has no better internets than the public house apparently
(trilema) diana_coman: well, fornetti and nutella and whatever else, when going cheaper and then cheaper and so on, how else can it really go
(trilema) diana_coman: heh, fornetti is the universal name for industrialised replacement of replacement in the pastry world; I hadn't realised it had spread that far.
(trilema) diana_coman: bleah, burtoi pe popice ce-i ala
(trilema) diana_coman: and the contents of the manifest file itself are obtained from pressing a tree so it's not like you get mismatch tree <-> manifest and a tangle or I don't see it
(trilema) diana_coman: and a sig on a patch to my mind can't anyway be in isolation like that, "just this patch here is fine but I have no idea of what is being patched"
(trilema) diana_coman: afaik
(trilema) diana_coman: i.e. manifest is a history with dates but not some prescription re patching
(trilema) diana_coman: fwiw I don't get what the issue is there and what does the manifest have to do with anything
(trilema) diana_coman: Mocky: isn't the "right one" dns client you're talking about simply a bridge? i.e. sure, have as many bridges as you want, too, what exactly is the problem?
(trilema) diana_coman: I suppose I'll just have to carve some time and do it.
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: that was a proto-cuntoo, essentially not exactly the current cuntoo
(trilema) diana_coman: as far as I understood it, she was simply trying to get some gentoo system installed first i.e. to have A system, not that much to be able to emerge new stuff or whatever
(trilema) diana_coman: yes but I struggle to understand why was it that hanbot struggled so much with getting a cuntoo first since apparently there is actually this image that is frozen and usable
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: re dulap-tarball, does that mean that it's in fact *that* the gentoo image hanbot was looking for as stepping stone towards cuntoo? i.e. deploy that first and then from there move on to cuntoo?
(trilema) diana_coman: cam asa, doar burti, ugh.
(trilema) diana_coman: I suppose the slop-feeding is in itself test enough - if one actually likes it and doesn't ever see any problem with it then it's precisely fit, what.
(trilema) diana_coman: from github for that project it seemed it's a chinese guy too so I'd have hoped perhaps not exactly same,hm.
(trilema) diana_coman: it's such a well-worn ditch they dug themselves into that there isn't even an alternative failure mode anymore, huh
(trilema) diana_coman: oh boy, it's cloudflare, now I get it
(trilema) diana_coman: did anyone try to talk to the guy behind it?
(trilema) diana_coman: quite recent actually, huh
(trilema) diana_coman: lost like that, I mean, ugh
(trilema) diana_coman: it seems to me that there are sadly quite a few things that end up like that and it's infuriating
(trilema) diana_coman: hm, no
(trilema) diana_coman: re p.bvulpes - we actually don't have any alternative there, do we?
(trilema) diana_coman: I tried all sorts of channels but it *very quickly* gets so annoying that I can't stand it even just looking at it occasionaly
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910609 -> absolutely true.
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1894496 -> trinque , did I miss this literate version or still not enough sigs or?
(trilema) diana_coman will go to dig the log + hanbot's blog and re-load re what went wrong exactly
(trilema) diana_coman: obv, as long as it actually does come, true.
(trilema) diana_coman: ok, but nothing wrong with "coming soon aka after dd/mm/yy"
(trilema) diana_coman: i.e. looked at this and that, based on it -> this; so far this will be pizarro-iron-type for as long as it can be found/nothing better is found
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: I meant to proclaim what Pizarro did and does, not to claim that it'll be available forever or anything; but honestly, I went all-ways on the website and could-not-find-anything on this
(trilema) diana_coman: myeah; I'm not a fan of remote-install anything for that matter but anyway.
(trilema) diana_coman: re de-facto standard I mean
(trilema) diana_coman: great; maybe Pizarro could be more proud of it though?
(trilema) diana_coman: that should be absolutely enough, I don't see any trouble with it; and disk was a separate issue irc?
(trilema) diana_coman: re run: does this mean that currently this is the de-facto "pizarro-iron amd" preferred spec ?
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: ok; can you point me please to spec of the machine as I don't fully have it in-head?
(trilema) diana_coman: so hm, for one thing it'd again require mp's permission at any rate.
(trilema) diana_coman: I just don't fully recall what it was and I thought Pizarro had it in more clear/one place so I don't have to go digging for it
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, BingoBoingo judging by hanbot's experience though with that machine, it's not exactly the best for this sort of thing? or what was the trouble? also: will there be more provision after the planned pizarro-run (when will that be)? why does this feel like pulling teeth anyway
(trilema) diana_coman: does #trilema even have 50 users? lolz
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: lol
(trilema) diana_coman: BingoBoingo, asciilifeform I'm looking for a machine to use as experimentation-ground for all sorts of republican software (e.g. cuntoo, logbot); my rockchip fine as it is at doing its blog-hosting job, turns out to be essentially the wrong architecture for this sort of use so I need something else; what can Pizarro offer (even in medium term, it's not something burning)?
(trilema) diana_coman: neata mp_en_viaje
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910244 -> bwahaha, so smecher -> slut and fetii mosului -> the girls of the mosque, it might be on to something there; but yes, wooden tongue 2.0; I keep having deja vu on this but I can't quite turn it up if indeed it was discussed previously with same conclusion.
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: sorry, I was away; but yes, I'm using /etc/hosts and it's set as 104.131.72.249 in mine
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: btcbase.org pings fine from here
(trilema) diana_coman: enjoy!
(trilema) diana_coman: well, profit is just another type of fun, lol.
(trilema) diana_coman: esp in organised "tours" and the like I think it's absolutely imperative to pose sadistic questions; after all, why else go there otherwise.
(trilema) diana_coman: bwahaha, that sounds fun though
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: it seems (perhaps wrongly) to me that the usual default re searching for all sorts is more often than it should the online; this experience (not by itself either) seems to me to drive home again the fact that exhaustive offline searches are more likely to yield the actual interesting stuff than even exhaustive online ones.
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: there's a difference between ruled out and default as it were
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: so basically the "can't have x" is more indicative of "didn't look for it irl seriously enough"?
(trilema) diana_coman: my understanding was that the logbot was the part one might want to run on its own
(trilema) diana_coman: in rather insane bits, just counted the "parameters" of an actor entity in eulora's client and there's 40 of them without even counting that some of those are tuples.
(trilema) diana_coman: the whole C-thread reads... interestingly from the depths of planeshit client +crystalspace
(trilema) diana_coman waves
(trilema) diana_coman will dive back into euloran client entrails
(trilema) diana_coman: ugh; I hate rats as it is, no need for bigger ones; that being said, I can already picture the euloran "stan's layr" complete with lumber-electronics a la http://ossasepia.com/2018/06/26/euloras-own-cr50/ and weird rats/trash pandas to fight for resources.
(trilema) diana_coman: I actually like hedgehogs but if it didn't have enough brain to roam the gardens only...
(trilema) diana_coman: I had only one instance of a crow-eating-eyes-out-of-roadkill-hedgehog but I was sadly in a hurry and by the time I came back there was no trace of it left
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-21#1909210 -> now I get it why asciilifeform doesn't play computer games anymoar - can't compete with real trash pandas!
(trilema) diana_coman tends to write pen on paper when figuring things out which is a pain re publishing afterwards
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: the text helps esp. in conveying your intention/focus as it were; it's true that one could understand FFA just with the code but that doesn't mean that the posts don't help.
(trilema) diana_coman: fwiw I start with the algebra and only then, if I need to, I will refer to - better yet, make my own - diagrams; in this case my note was simply a reminder "diagrams there do not match internals + shift_left/right convention here so do own/flip/ignore"
(trilema) diana_coman: but exactly because they force in there "direction" when that is inconsequential
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: there was nowhere not even for 1 sec any idea of "oh noez, redo drawings", just in case it's not clear; the start is still the algebra anyway and that's the correct way of thinking about it to my mind, not any convention left or right (and in this sense, if anything, I'd rather change the shift_left/shift_right for all their being ancient and all that).
(trilema) diana_coman goes back to eulorism for now.
(trilema) diana_coman: I meant: I think the ideal is role rather than direction; sigh.
(trilema) diana_coman: re flipping them in one's head: I'm sure it comes with practice but I'm not yet there; and yes, it's more of my shortcoming that I keep tripping on this but atm this is how it is; generally speaking I don't think the ideal is to think in terms of role rather than (any) direction but there are the (historical as you noted) left/right shift/rotate which inevitably still bring direction in for me.
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: updated with the .dia files http://ossasepia.com/2019/04/17/reading-notes-on-ffa-ch1-ch4/#selection-209.1-225.1
(trilema) diana_coman: come to think of it, they might be useful if anyone wants to tinker them to clearer format or anything; brb
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: Dia; if you want them, I can upload the .dia files too
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-17#1908845 -> mostly in the posts/explanations; hence my "I do not use " - as I go through it, I keep to "most junior on the right" to avoid tripping over, that's all.
(trilema) diana_coman: the writeup is behind the sigs that are behind the read that is behind the skim and so on
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: my sigs for ch9-ch11 are at http://ossasepia.com/reference-code-shelf/#selection-693.0-755.49
(trilema) diana_coman: trinque: is deedbot down?
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: ugh, from direct experience I can tell you some find it very easy to spend 50hours/month calling - I knew girls who were literally ALL the time on the phone
(trilema) diana_coman will go to sleep
(trilema) diana_coman: exactly.
(trilema) diana_coman: the easy gauge would be - go mention Ada and see reaction; far from "martian artefact" style; but that being said, I'm not giving it as "fact, here it is, started on x-y-z at 5pm"
(trilema) diana_coman: perhaps; fwiw I think there's a rather funny rush to "find" Ada.
(trilema) diana_coman: myeah
(trilema) diana_coman: I suspect by now the "Ada-space" is rather mapped since I keep bumping into the same names
(trilema) diana_coman: ah, yes, that I looked at in the very beginning but tbh it still didn't help much and it was still simply Barnes' book I needed mostly.
(trilema) diana_coman: whatever they need; so far apparently not much but that's up to them.
(trilema) diana_coman: yes; and client is entirely open up to players to make as well as they want to have it.
(trilema) diana_coman: anyway, for client use, it's not ada-heapism that is in any way a problem really.
(trilema) diana_coman: this guy is the first that doesn't quite seem "c++ in ada" really i.e. he seems more focused on Ada for the right reasons; I suspect more the windows-based trouble as it were.
(trilema) diana_coman: and yes, it's certainly precisely the case that copious heapisms, pointerisms etc - the reason for it being as far as I can see quite obvious too: no sweating from 1st principles, much easier that way, sure
(trilema) diana_coman: but I get what you mean
(trilema) diana_coman: as I'm coming from a few years already of reading and wrestling planeshift code, I can't say it'll be reading heathen Ada that would cost me time, lol.
(trilema) diana_coman: anyway, the ini files is a tidbit really; that was the entry point but since I saw afterwards all the www-oriented parts I got curious
(trilema) diana_coman: certainly.
(trilema) diana_coman: as I said earlier: I don't think it *has to*; but he clearly doesn't have a problem with it and so he uses it; there are quite a few things grating, yes;
(trilema) diana_coman: from there I had a look at his zip ada and the rest
(trilema) diana_coman: but yes, that uses also unbound strings
(trilema) diana_coman: he has a short and ok ini-files read/write thing that might come in handy for eulora client really
(trilema) diana_coman: me2!
(trilema) diana_coman: I saw that he has supposedly even an Ada browser but when I tried to get the sources it seems I got some incomplete/windows-dev thing
(trilema) diana_coman: the code I saw so far is quite readable and self-contained so all surprisingly good there but it's true that he still uses all sorts including unbounded strings and pointers where I'm not sure it's really unavoidable
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-02#1610852 - as I found this only now when I stumbled upon Montmollin's various lib and had (for once!) a rather pleasant surprise: asciilifeform did you actually review any of his code?
(trilema) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: "turpoprop" lolz
(trilema) diana_coman: I thought that was exactly what hotel porters were for though, hm
(trilema) diana_coman: heh, this time in the civilised world where they actually have coffee houses?
(trilema) diana_coman: onth I can't see anything wrong in adding "feel like x" to a pizarro add if that does anything
(trilema) diana_coman: not to mention that being/doing something ~always costs something while feelin' like it costs ~nothing, so no surprise really.
(trilema) diana_coman: well, quite logical since muh feelings' so important, after all.
(trilema) diana_coman: closer to feeling like launching one, most probably the whole point anyway.
(trilema) diana_coman: I wanted to ask whether Bartholomew went back to its roots!!
(trilema) diana_coman: true
(trilema) diana_coman: it's not hard to have a lot of luggage, sure; though I never really regretted having smaller luggage as it were (and I almost always find it too big, too much anyway!)
(trilema) diana_coman: 200kg of luggage for 3 people?!! lmao
(trilema) diana_coman: lolz; lufthansa has been going very sad over the so-many-years really
(trilema) diana_coman: better seats?
(trilema) diana_coman: oh hi mp_with_bratwurst
(trilema) diana_coman: last time I used WU was ~10 years ago and it was from EU to USA so not much help for current use case
(trilema) diana_coman: tbf unsure how smooth either wire or wu would be from UK given additional currency headache; hence my hesitation to add this one to the to do list but by the looks of it, if this continues with no real bids even on quite competitive prices, I guess I'll have to.
(trilema) diana_coman: it seems quite surprising to me there isn't more interest but tbf I haven't used local WU ever, would need to even look it up, lol.
(trilema) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: is WU the only option for those wff?
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, hope you get well soon! and no, don't get to delirium (or even serious shivers as that's likely to come first anyway)
(trilema) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: ahahah, delish relish krauts ferment
(trilema) diana_coman: re relish or not I quite suspect many would be way happier if they didn't "have to unique"
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: why though not post it on your blog really? can be with title and half a page explanations as to how it's not-the-real-think-just-yet but still there
(trilema) diana_coman: being weirdos they are foreigners therefore hotel therefore -> lounge. :D
(trilema) diana_coman: hm, bavarians are cosmopolitan now?
(trilema) diana_coman: pretty much, yes
(trilema) diana_coman: tbf cafes for me -> Austria rather than Germany (which esp Bavaria -> biergarten -and that comes with annoying sitting, yes- what cafe)
(trilema) diana_coman: ahahaha
(trilema) diana_coman: uhm, wtf did they do with what they had ...more than 10 years ago though
(trilema) diana_coman: I suspect they ...don't have money to meet there ?
(trilema) diana_coman now admits she has purposefully kept away from Munchen for quite a few years now in order to not spoil earlier pleasant recollections of it...
(trilema) diana_coman: ahahah, centuristi!!
(trilema) diana_coman: that being said, I actually had a nice time at various biergartens fwiw - obv, with people "brought from home" as it were so I don't know it had much to do with the *garten itself
(trilema) diana_coman: so it makes sense
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: well, munchen is bavaria is lederhosen
(trilema) diana_coman: ahahha mp_en_viaje that was rather to be expected given the ersten und originalen und-only-talkin' www
(trilema) diana_coman: myeah, it could do with a whole lot less mystery
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: from what I understood though, spyked said he could not see his transaction relayed even
(trilema) diana_coman: ersten und originalen Stammtisch - at least it's at a biergarten I hope
(trilema) diana_coman: the tv channels discovery sounds precisely like my early 90's discovery where naive-me thought at first that channel with only X meant they never repeated the stuff.
(trilema) diana_coman: gruss gott mp_en_viaje
(trilema) diana_coman: anyway, fonts are not a big concern atm
(trilema) diana_coman: iirc jurov had an attempt at a text-only client
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: well, "my client" in the sense that I'm the only one cleaning it up basically
(trilema) diana_coman: anyway, client is supposed to be up to players really so they can have it with any horrid font they want
(trilema) diana_coman: that sounds like a farawy problem still, plenty of headaches before getting there as far as I can see.
(trilema) diana_coman: ahahah, reptilarium sounds even better!
(trilema) diana_coman: guess so re derping hq; re fonts, I took that mess of a font out, yes; anyway, this was just on the side while stripping down the "login" window of useless password etc.
(trilema) diana_coman: that lizard hq is boring.
(trilema) diana_coman: in other lulz, eulora's client complaint that it can't find "reteprelieum" font was caused by the fact that the font-file was called reteprellum while all code (xml! scripts! scriptable!!!) said reteprelieum; now in fairness the font is horrid so it's better it was wrong.
(trilema) diana_coman: !!key OriansJ
(trilema) diana_coman: multiple authors is one thing aka multiple users; multiple roles though is a different thing
(trilema) diana_coman: fwiw I don't see any use for "roles" either
(trilema) diana_coman: absolutely!
(trilema) diana_coman would get the kid a toy car since ~= "college" anyway.
(trilema) diana_coman: but yes, on second pass I think I can see it: that's his sweat there, "having kids", the rest has to compensate !!
(trilema) diana_coman: ahahah, quite.
(trilema) diana_coman: I suspect the whole thing is more twisted than planeshift's code already.
(trilema) diana_coman: ah, uhm; does that mean he didn't have sex before because return would be < 100% ?
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu: wtf give exactly?
(trilema) diana_coman: re fg inside, I suppose that's the "those guys don't know how to sell" - gotta make it a collectable, there's no use and no purpose other than it's cool; but mircea_popescu's explanation of self-valuation seems to me to explain it all much better really.
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-31#1906236 -> I'd say the "kids ate my time" is the convenient excuse as it's not like he has 100, nor like he is even main carer or anything; just sayin'.
(trilema) diana_coman: " Were Trilema as small as you ever wish it to be, an ephemeride living its day of life in the shadow of the largest Egyptian pyramid, yet what would be the deepest difference between Trilema and that pyramid ? Not density, nor size, nor duration in time nor anything like that, but the one fundamental fact, that while the little insect lives, however shortly, however precariously, the pyramid does not, and never has." -> Caragiale ref spotted!
(trilema) diana_coman: it is in its own dir and project because that's what it is - a project that tests the code of interest.
(trilema) diana_coman: billymg the tests I have are simply automated ada and/or c/cpp tests for the code, nothing v-specific really; from V's pov it's just code like the rest.
(trilema) diana_coman: I had it in my stash from writing eucrypt time so it rang a bell instantly
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: arnault's paper in the log from 1995 if that's the one you were looking for http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-08#1722906
(trilema) diana_coman: on that d1 intel from http://ossasepia.com/2019/02/28/zcx-vs-sjlj-data-set/#selection-113.0-113.85 the tests of eucrypt that generate a key pair take at times ~20 min, just to give an idea
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: timings sounds good to me; I have it on the list to get some timings for comparison when I get to eat full FFA, yes; atm though I can tell for sure that 10 minutes for generating key is both fine and rather fast even.
(trilema) diana_coman: in fairness though,I'd say it's untrue: there's LOTS of dicking around so they...try!
(trilema) diana_coman: "Dudes are out here going to the gym to only work out their arms and chest and constantly skip everything below their torso." aahaha
(trilema) diana_coman: eh, what's to stop stealing internet names if images is too hard; but anyway.
(trilema) diana_coman: re grangerstranger it's really that those never talking actually are ghosts even if poked? what a surprise
(trilema) diana_coman: I can see it, yes.
(trilema) diana_coman: a fork not a for, lol
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu: fwiw everything I published v-versioned has the tests included as a subdir with its own .gpr file and all that; I'm not sure a fork of the V-tree is really needed for this (i.e. deleting a whole dir is easier than maintaining a for as far as I see it atm).
(trilema) diana_coman: if it's about wants, I can throw in that I want a sane computer already!
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu: ack
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-24#1904513 -> what we is that chonkin ?
(trilema) diana_coman: hello asciilifeform ; ftr I've been enjoying the pehbot demos but atm I don't have a lot of time to catch up faster with ffa, sadly.
(trilema) diana_coman: other than that I don't know of other patches though perhaps hanbot is the best person to ask about this
(trilema) diana_coman: phf: I don't see there any sig from billymg for his patches though?
(trilema) diana_coman: danielpbarron: re making vpatches http://ossasepia.com/2018/11/13/v-with-vtools-keccak-hashes-and-its-own-tree/#selection-81.1-80.1
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-21#1903897 -> expert pickpocket is first of all expert in choosing victim; that being said, in Bucharest it was the 601 bus (always overflowing) and/or buses/trams from the North Station (bc. people with luggage in a hurry to get on the bus); this doesn't mean that it's not obvious and avoidable but assuming you want to bait them for the xp, those are easy spots.
(trilema) diana_coman: (what that does is to reject directly comments from already-known spammers)
(trilema) diana_coman: hanbot in tiny but useful changes: wp-comments-post.php still contains a trilema-specific query that can easily be changed to generic i.e. tril_comments should be $wpdb->comments (line 64)
(trilema) diana_coman: I suppose one now should also comb the thing for any other anonymous functions that might need the use clause or otherwise work with empty vars
(trilema) diana_coman: extremely frustrating.
(trilema) diana_coman: that actually explains nicely also why hanbot did not spot it earlier perhaps and why when I looked on her blog it seemed to work - possibly it silently broke only when she moved her hosting and in the process upgraded php version too
(trilema) diana_coman: as usual, upgrading "software" benefits and whatnots
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu are you running trilema on older php that doesn't need this tweak ?
(trilema) diana_coman: danielpbarron do you know which PHP version is the last to work without the use?
(trilema) diana_coman: my rockchip is running PHP 5.6.35-pl1-gentoo (cli)
(trilema) diana_coman: danielpbarron confirmed, it works indeed, thank you. So it's a matter of php version then?
(trilema) diana_coman: so hm, the hook for pre_comment_content is not set properly then? might be worth chasing that lead
(trilema) diana_coman will go and get some sleep
(trilema) diana_coman: not that I can tell at a quick grep
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu: no; a grep returned nothing at all (-ir from top dir of wp install)