#trilema | 2019-04-02

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-01#1906523 <-- ty, alf! I'll get to this asap

a111: Logged on 2019-04-01 21:00 asciilifeform: !!invoice spyked 0.015 postage for http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-29#1906075 crate (expect it in ~2wks)

spyked goes to play with deedbot wallet

spyked: noob question re bitcoin: is there an expected time for tx propagation to peers' mempools? details: I'm running a fully synced trb node, connected to trusted republican nodes using -addnode. I've sent 2 txen using sendtoaddress ~3hrs ago and none of them are on e.g. blockchain.info so far

spyked: (to be clear, my issue is not of inclusion of said txen in the blockchain, but merely seeing them on nodes other than my own, even if unconfirmed; right now I might as well assume I'm doing something wrong and my node didn't send them at all)

asciilifeform: spyked: i have a (sadly unfinished) http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-18#1863409 proggy , for exactly these cases, on back burner.

a111: Logged on 2018-10-18 00:49 asciilifeform: in other minor noose, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/hKCPp/?raw=true << preliminary db schema for node hunter

asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu had a custom in-house ??? for same ( also sadly not published anywhere afaik )

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906538 << believe or not, asciilifeform recently turned up a crate containing several ( i have nfi, thought i gave'em all to danielpbarron ) but loox like he has you covered

a111: Logged on 2019-04-02 02:05 mod6: asciilifeform: Are there any more ,,!,, NSA shirts available?

lobbes just had a moment of "I know I hit this wall before, but forgot the cause"; thankfully logs helped me out once again

lobbes: augmented intelligence of tmsr at work

mp_en_viaje: ha-HA!

mp_en_viaje: saludos del fresco munchen!

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-01#1906501 << the evidence is indeed piling up nicely.

a111: Logged on 2019-04-01 15:33 asciilifeform: so, not quite 'atari', and in coupla moar ways than asciilifeform previously suspected..

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-01#1906511 << problem with fixed width font, in the specific, is that it makes typography (eg, someting like a blog) look like shit, and in the abstract, that it's yet another http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-04#1869323 : there's no objective reason "all letters 8 px wide", and some pretty great reason w and l don't take same space.

a111: Logged on 2019-04-01 16:47 asciilifeform: ( trivial if fixed-width font, but i suspect that not errybody is willing to jettison variable font just yet )

a111: Logged on 2018-11-04 23:22 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fact all your terminals suck isn't an argument in this convo.

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906547 << in principle sub-minute with "whatever" arrangement, sub-second achievable if you baby your network connections.

a111: Logged on 2019-04-02 11:03 spyked: noob question re bitcoin: is there an expected time for tx propagation to peers' mempools? details: I'm running a fully synced trb node, connected to trusted republican nodes using -addnode. I've sent 2 txen using sendtoaddress ~3hrs ago and none of them are on e.g. blockchain.info so far

diana_coman: gruss gott mp_en_viaje

mp_en_viaje: :)

feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/04/wordpress-plugin-firm-caught-using-customer-sites-as-bots/ << Qntra -- WordPress Plugin Firm Caught Using Customer Sites As Bots

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906557 << oh hah. asciilifeform only been there coupla times, but never got to uncrate lappy, was always '100 metre sprint' from plane to plane

a111: Logged on 2019-04-02 18:14 mp_en_viaje: saludos del fresco munchen!

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906560 << it aint that i've anyffin against 'civilized' typography (tho prolly oughta admit, errything outside of graphical www on my boxen is displayed in exactly fixed-bitmap lettering) . simply gotta point out that 'fit 3 l where 1 w goes' is a luxury of sorts, costs moar moving parts than folx who never tried to implement it are typically aware of

a111: Logged on 2019-04-02 18:21 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-01#1906511 << problem with fixed width font, in the specific, is that it makes typography (eg, someting like a blog) look like shit, and in the abstract, that it's yet another http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-04#1869323 : there's no objective reason "all letters 8 px wide", and some pretty great reason w and l don't take same space.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906563 << the 1 gotcha, is that if you (or peers) are wedged (genuinely wedged, on db grind; or peers wedged; or stuck on island in sea of prb; or... buncha documented , in log, cases ) then will get exactly 'where the fuck is my tx' errytime

a111: Logged on 2019-04-02 18:24 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906547 << in principle sub-minute with "whatever" arrangement, sub-second achievable if you baby your network connections.

asciilifeform: on acct of the sheer volume of dross 'nodes' on the net, this remains problem even if you personally have sizable herd of nodes

asciilifeform: sorta why asciilifeform wrote (not yet got chance to debug tho -- and not 'proggy is buggy', but to actually handle all possible brokenness of the probed liquishits...) node mapper

asciilifeform: iirc , last i looked, <0.1% of what answers on 8333 even remotely resembles actual node

asciilifeform bbl:tea

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> iirc , last i looked, <0.1% of what answers on 8333 even remotely resembles actual node << This is an environmental problem.

feedbot: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/04/signature-for-spykeds-keccak-regrind-of-logbot_command_router_python_genesis/ << lobbesblog -- Signature for spyked's Keccak regrind of logb...esis

lobbes: ^ fyi phf for future snarfage

lobbes: looks like auctionbot is down, I'ma investigate

feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/04/fiatbitcoin-interfaces-report-abrupt-drop-in-value-of-fiats/ << Qntra -- Fiat/Bitcoin Interfaces Report Abrupt Drop In Value Of Fiats

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906568 << ah nothing like that, yest sat down for excellent thai. today breakfast at trad biergarten etc.

a111: Logged on 2019-04-02 19:34 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906557 << oh hah. asciilifeform only been there coupla times, but never got to uncrate lappy, was always '100 metre sprint' from plane to plane

mp_en_viaje is enjoying all the little things he knew he missed. such as you know, the god damned water.

mp_en_viaje: for some reason new world water blows.

mp_en_viaje was getting well sick and tired of san pelegrino, also. bs 2nd tier mineral water took over the world on the quiet.

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906570 << no argument that it's expensive (incidentally /me is fully aware, did professional stint in typo, asylum was printed on trad webpress process after a setting by yours truly for example). but by the same hand i'm aware it must be done and is worth doing.

a111: Logged on 2019-04-02 19:35 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906560 << it aint that i've anyffin against 'civilized' typography (tho prolly oughta admit, errything outside of graphical www on my boxen is displayed in exactly fixed-bitmap lettering) . simply gotta point out that 'fit 3 l where 1 w goes' is a luxury of sorts, costs moar moving parts than folx who never tried to implement it are typically aware of