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asciilifeform: pile of jewls jewl-rippers tore from their mounts, as was their impulse.
asciilifeform: then i have nfi, i simply do not know enough about subj
asciilifeform: phf: reimplemented pgp verify ?
ascii_rear: and compiler.
ascii_rear: next thing i will do, supposing that nobody else takes it up, is to make the mempool shiva-walkable
ascii_rear: BingoBoingo: not entirely impossible
ascii_rear: (there are hard tests for compliance, can run these)
ascii_rear: there is much to be done there, incl. reimplementing the classical rpc hooks
ascii_rear: tinyscheme is the smallest (loc and complexity-wise) schematron that has these necessaries.
ascii_rear: the important message here is something else, the shiva console is not to be considered publicly exposable in any sense
ascii_rear: there is also an 'example.c' floating around on the net that has moar examples
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they aren't simply 'different sized holes', there is reed-solomon encoding
asciilifeform: as in, compiled.
asciilifeform: such as: microshit in charge of 'computer education'
asciilifeform: for completeness, arrows oughta be red, on black
asciilifeform: jurov: i want a non-nato computer.
asciilifeform: re: the hardware pr0n link earlier, it is a good example of what i call an ~iridium toilet~ - as DISTINCT from a golden toilet, it is a device that is build with 1) price is no object 2) NOT FOR showing off and playing idiot tlp rolex status games.
asciilifeform: afaik this is only at online retailers, physical shops simply charge 100-200 usd more
asciilifeform: cn is historically a champ at absorbing own spew
asciilifeform: 'plebe does not need to compile anything'
asciilifeform: but actually i think mircea_popescu is right, we will have a 'triumph of the cockroaches' situation
asciilifeform: re: arm, every few yrs i get an attack of the temptation to build a new workstation, and it never happens, and probably never will. would dearly love to buy something nato-free, wouldja tell me ~where~ ?
asciilifeform: not ONLY do they use the foreign devil's masks, complete with backdoor turds, but PAY.
asciilifeform: signed binary can be contemplated when there is simply no escape (e.g., firmware image, compiler bootstrap) but otherwise entirely braindamaged
ascii_butugychag: there is, however, the ample retardation of the 'any time' variant.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: what i want is not a gutted corpse of gnudiff, but a turing-complete vtron
ascii_butugychag: buncha gmp calls, in c.
ascii_butugychag: adlai: to me it simply means 'i don't have to leave my editor and FUCK NO I AM NEVER pasting code into a motherfucking shell 10000000 time a day'
ascii_butugychag: which is imho an important historical document
ascii_butugychag: adlai: i implanted a scheme runtime in a trb.
ascii_butugychag: mod6: fortunately it is the world's simplest, possibly, usable language
ascii_butugychag: turing-complete vtron
ascii_butugychag: it simply gets orphaned.
ascii_butugychag: (and, as i explained very early on, cycled are an error, and anyone attempting to introduce a graph cycle deserves a good thrashing)
ascii_butugychag: you can specify a tag file it will fill from when tab(or your favourite other key)-completing.
ascii_butugychag: this was a common complaint about my rotor system also, recall
ascii_butugychag: now i am fighting a compulsion to stick that tape to the bottom of every single object on my desk
ascii_butugychag: and so makes it quite impossible to properly have tinyscheme-genesis FULLY MACHINE-READABLY flow into shiva genesis
asciilifeform: soon i will post some examples of hooks which actually take arguments
asciilifeform: so i sent it off with a few very basic examples.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388189 << i must say also that this is not why i wrote it, originally. this was an attempt at an online debugger, so i can interactively play with tx in mempool, issue db queries, etc.
ascii_butugychag: but that does mean that it is quite impossible for me to do what mod6 asked for.
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-01-2016#1387686 << the appearance of 'despondent turds' doesn't sink empires though, it is quite the reverse
asciilifeform: except that i get same comments on my computing bl0g
asciilifeform: i do wonder, do the 'basic income' folks simply not understand the hierarchical role of money? or think that it can be magicked away? or do not, but lie about it ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-01-2016#1387575 << everybody burning with desire to be warehoused with the lumpens, raise yer handz!
ascii_butugychag: you and i can also win against world champion with nine stone handicap, quite possibly.
ascii_butugychag: incidentally, ~nobody~ noticed that i used an ancient vdiff that shat out timestamps
ascii_butugychag: my first attempt was a very dirty hack, i re-did it as a properly vtronic thing (to preserve pedigree linkage to classical tinyscheme)
asciilifeform: any more than stampeding bulls are partizans on a farm.
asciilifeform: afaik, tinyscheme is currently the smallest (in re: complexity) standards-compliant (mostly) schematron in the world
asciilifeform: (but unfortunately not usable for this experiment, lacks support for i/o 'ports' and, more importantly, arrays)
ascii_butugychag: argentina isn't a squalid pisshole complete with free-range islamic nutters
ascii_butugychag: (gotta have some way of keeping folks from simply busting people out. as usg famously failed to do in iraq.)
ascii_butugychag: works best as an institution at the heart of an evil empire with massive standing army, etc.
ascii_butugychag: for completeness, the operating cost of the coke machine cannot be assumed to be zero
ascii_butugychag: there is certainly precedent; englishmen subjected to the peine forte et dure were sometimes permitted to invite relatives, friends, to add weights or jump on the plank
ascii_butugychag: catch just one ulbricht and you pay back 10,000 years of running empty.
ascii_butugychag: and incidentally, it is well-known why american tax system is complicated and requires many precise calculations by the victim
ascii_butugychag: compare with, e.g., p. r. blondlot
ascii_butugychag: the only comparable monument to scientific honesty i know of was the fella on the other side of the ocean, in su, with polywater
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2016#1386367 << mpex submarine! six MIRV cones, any questions.
ascii_butugychag: incidentally, mircea_popescu has a mega-point in that su, unlike british empire, was self-contained, had own set of coolies
ascii_butugychag: this, like any operation against a thermodynamic gradient, is a fragile and temporary thing, and tends to end bloodily, but it is why we have computer and not fucking-goat
ascii_butugychag: unless preemptively pushed out.
ascii_butugychag: rats can also outcompete man, as can roaches
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: it is/was (?) the software equivalent of riaa/mpaa
ascii_butugychag: (somehow the conclusion that 'computers you can't program' don't belong in a security application, is lost on folks)
ascii_butugychag: (there was a spiffy talk at shmoo, which mentioned how nn used in image recognition usually imprints on what - to a human - would be an entirely accidental cluster of pixels, and if you flip'em, it will recognize an obvious, e.g,. cat, as a refrigerator, etc)
ascii_butugychag: PeterL: pretty much impossible
asciilifeform: echnology companies such as Google and Facebook getting involved the field of AI. "We have to get rid of the big companies and go back to giving support to individuals who have new ideas because attempting to commercialise existing things hasn't worked very well," he said.'
asciilifeform: 'But, in one of his last interviews, with MIT Technology Review last year, Prof Minsky said there had been "very little growth in artificial intelligence" in the past decade, adding current work had been "mostly attempting to improve systems that aren't very good and haven't improved much in two decades". By contrast, he said, "the 1950s and 1960s were wonderful - something new every week". And he hinted he was against large t
asciilifeform: ^ interestingly, these have tiny incandescent lamps in'em
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2016#1385711 << TomServo: how did you press? post your complete set of sha512s
asciilifeform: ah so computer
asciilifeform: 'This one, however, is different from the rest. The person throwing dirt over the coffin last week was not an outsider, as has most often been the case. It was not some mainstream economist who just “doesn’t get it.” It was not a misinformed journalist fishing for clicks. It was Mike Hearn, a former Google developer, the guy who wrote the first java implementation of Bitcoin. He’s a regular presence at conferences and
asciilifeform: (and i find it very strange that an adult would play a solitaire, it seems like a serious symptom of 'has no theorems to prove')
asciilifeform: lack of any style at all is generally symptomatic of serious cranial cockroaches
asciilifeform: when i explain this to folks, i like to use the example of liquid nitrogen sausage
asciilifeform: i was even under the impression that the eulora build process was microshit-free
asciilifeform: (you can cross-compile trivially, and gcc gives 10x the compactness of vs crud. just treat the box as a kind of nintendo.)
asciilifeform: i would much rather trade the computer for a pencil.
asciilifeform: it is entirely impossible without installing something like vmware
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: it is a complete piece of shit
asciilifeform: study the linux loader to see what 'dynamic' means. static is simply... not doing this
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1384237 << what is the nonobvious thing re: static compilation ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1384035 << this is lulzy in re: how i recently had to set up a complete orchestra on an apple box
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383869 << we don't have a computer that you can buy that makes this concept have a point
asciilifeform: we don't have a computer.
asciilifeform: mod6: the principal obstacle is the lack of a computer.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i got it to compile ages ago, the tricky bit is to add useful tendrils into it
asciilifeform: or even compile itself on.
asciilifeform: (it isn't as if they were of any serious amplitude, or even fluctuated in any particular phase to salaries, interest rates, or other relevant number)
asciilifeform: and even there folks chortled when i asked 'notice no mention of complexity class proof or even assumption'
asciilifeform: implement tx debugger, sane logger instrumentation, and 101 other things, IN IT
asciilifeform: with that in mind, YES, the logs need timestamps, or better still, an adjustable format, verbosity levels, etc.
asciilifeform: and correctly implementable by a stray dog
asciilifeform: ~genuine~ reduction in complexity specifically excludes shenanigans where it is 'swept under the rug' and hidden somewhere else
asciilifeform: or at the worst, a simple telnet-type protocol
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: the whole racket stood on a solid column of chump, and was designed around such
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382433 << all i really want presently is to dump mempool. and to have some means of removing ANYTHING whatsoever from it. because if we had this, we COULD semispace-garbagecollect.
asciilifeform played with a bag of empty shells of those, as a boy
asciilifeform: only because the beast is immunocompromised
asciilifeform: i am picturing, one day measured value of plank's constant shifts, mircea_popescu goes back to sleep, says 'this shift was implicit all along, could not otherwise happen.' and will sleep until the very integers get up and walk around.
asciilifeform: this being said, i wouldn't mind visiting limonov's (or mircea_popescu's for that matter) planet where folks practice bare-handed head-chopping from sunrise to noon, and measure neutron cross-sections, compose symphonies, after dinner
asciilifeform: as amply confirmed experimentally as anything i'd care to think of.
asciilifeform: thesis is that 'the spartan speaks with his sword', untempered, results in goatfuckistan.
asciilifeform: perhaps a better example would've been the 10,000 yrs of australian abo.
asciilifeform: but overall, dependency on ~more~ unix tools is a bad thing, and dependency on ~more complicated~ and less-likely-to-be-reimplemented-by-wot-folk-soon tools, likewise
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: apparently fella wanted to reimplement v in gnumake (as i once considered doing) but made some peculiar design decisions along the way
asciilifeform: wait till polarbeard finds out what ~else~ we intend to implement for the n+1th time
asciilifeform: a 500k/y chump is just a slightly higher-powered chump
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: living in a rising, rather than falling, empire
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: that is implied under 'graduated'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was some chick, you quoted it as 'as the name implies, i am jinglebutt. now remove me from this list' or the like
asciilifeform: polarbeard: care to give an example of how this was run ?
asciilifeform: you lose a good bit of important side functionality, and become dependent on a gigantic gnuturd
asciilifeform: i actually considered implementing v this way, and decided against it
asciilifeform: sorta like a fella i once knew who had a 'new computer if this one dies' warranty, and had a handy electrostatic wand'o'death he built for new-computer-gettin'
ascii_butugychag: wasn't it in mircea_popescu's recent article where 'common man must be pumped through a sewer tunnel but oughta have a small escape hatch' ?
ascii_butugychag: whaddayamean can't comprehend drudgery
ascii_butugychag: i would have ignored it but there was much noise about preemptive closing of the trains
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381007 << these were not chimeras ! but immunocompromised beasts
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wouldn't it already be a thing if we had the fee-based mempool sorter ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1380275 << i could try feigning stupidity and becoming sturmbannführer of something, but i don't think it works like that - you can't turn into a hapsburg emperor by elongating your nose, last i heard
asciilifeform: mod6: does your vtron implement 'origin' ?
asciilifeform: there is no place in computingdom where one does not find it after just a light scratch.
asciilifeform: or that the sea of shit in which we are now drowning was implicit in 1940s model of computer, and is no accident
asciilifeform: 'It is called the 'One-Page CPU' because you can fit the specification on an 8.5 by 11 sheet of paper without margins using 8 point Consolas font, and still have lots of room to spare. It is intended to be an easy to emulate compile target that supports context switching and interrupts.'
asciilifeform: http://recc.robertelder.org/op-cpu.txt << he has a full toolchain, incl. c compiler, and several emulators for it
asciilifeform: and reading mircea_popescu on certain subjects is rather reminiscent of this 'computer'
asciilifeform: he said 'i will give you a gift! a real computer!'
asciilifeform: i suppose herr ceausescu would be a counter-example
asciilifeform: and from mircea_popescu's articles i get the impression that his meatspace friends are respectable folk, 'high power' lawyers, traders, etc. rather than cpp connoisseurs
asciilifeform: now i've never actually met a chess-boxer. but it would not astonish me if i learned that they keep the company of other boxers and regard actual Großmeisters, who devoted their lives to chess, as effete lusers.
asciilifeform: and one of the problems with 'free men' is that growing up as one tends to result in 'an aristotle' - aristocrat, who may be a very sharp fella but is not especially handy with 'slave crafts' and would normally not stoop to, e.g., programming a computer
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: nah, that's harmless fun in comparison
asciilifeform: 'fixing' it is sorta like asking to 'fix' the dumpster mcdonalds chicken bits into an actual meal.
asciilifeform: to make debugging the case where the call was not made at all, for whatever perverse reason, simpler.
asciilifeform: if trb is sleeping in a dumpster and picking old razors out of the rotting mcd 'meal' trays to eat, prb is drowning in a usg paper dump
asciilifeform: https://www.bikeji.com/t/3144 << anybody want to attempt a reliable translation from heathen tongue ?
asciilifeform: if (fHighS && (BN_cmp(sig->s, halforder) < 0))
asciilifeform: + if (BN_cmp(sig->s, halforder) < 0)
ascii_butugychag: just referring to the hypothesis, amply supported, that the folks who actually make something of themselves, have proportionately less africa in them
ascii_butugychag: this was re: the slave example
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: in the sense of your earlier example, yes
ascii_butugychag: can haz example? let's say bag man helpfully tells restaranteur, '$x/mo. or your place burns'. where is the hidden bribe ?
ascii_butugychag: Xplosionist: $slavefarm implode yet ?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: under contemplation here and now is a very basic scheduler.
asciilifeform: i.e. meter resource consumption per peer.
asciilifeform: i've held off attempting to do anything about this because 'usg can diddle packets arbitrarily, we need gossipd' but there is no particular logic to this.
asciilifeform: i am contemplating a strictly 2-tiered hierarchy here.
asciilifeform: the second mode is what all of my trb boxen are set to, and it results in a comedy where the thing routinely drops friends on the floor and dallies about attempting to connect to randomly-selected derp ips
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1377917 << i must point out that the whole 'seeding' concept - as contemplated in the dark ages pre-trb client - is profoundly braindamaged.
asciilifeform: but, importantly,
asciilifeform: y'know, if folks had listened to rms, we might still have actual computers.
ascii_butugychag: the automatic implication is that, e.g., tasteless tomatoes are a-ok so long as they are ~selectively bred~ for truck endurance rather than 'gmo'-d, for instance
ascii_butugychag: the other thing is that the operations involved in processing a new tx are O(function of mempool size)
ascii_butugychag: so turns out mircea_popescu has a mempool garbagecollector, l0l
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: trb mempool is 25MB perhaps... up to five minutes after warmup ?
ascii_butugychag: that was not my impression re: current cn
ascii_butugychag: доходяга - 'one who's walked out his walk' - has implications of starvation
ascii_butugychag: and a dumpster is a fella who likes to hang around dumps...
asciilifeform: i'm not sure i'd even use computers if i had Moar Money (tm) (r)
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: the basic problem is that there are no miracles, semiconductors have a temperature ceiling, the heat has to leave as quickly as it appears, or meltdown
asciilifeform pictures squad of servants, noses pinched with clothespins, emptying mircea_popescu's box for daily olive change
asciilifeform: likewise submerged cooling works great for, e.g., mains transformer outdoors, but for 'point source' of heat like cpu, requires circulation pumps, which... noise
asciilifeform: (the cases of which were solid steel, with tempest mesh - copper, gilded fingers! on all contact interfaces, pure golden toilet)
ascii_butugychag: anyway it was example.
ascii_butugychag: incidentally, your local mains power company will also shit bricks if you have serious inductive loads in your house (shifts phase, interferes with their metering)
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: the funny part is that technically it does not require computer. i am free to attempt the project with a pencil.
ascii_butugychag: every slave gets ONE plough^H^H^H^H^Hcomputer.
ascii_butugychag: oh and i suppose for completeness of this thread i oughta mention one other thing
ascii_butugychag: i am only speaking of this here because it turns out to be a PERFECT example of poetteringization
ascii_butugychag: flymake was very simple, it just ran your makefile, which was required to have a check-syntax line in it (see, e.g., my block extractor program for example)
ascii_butugychag: which is THE standard compile-and-markup-your-window-with-errors-and-warnings widget for emacs
ascii_butugychag: is it mechanically distinguishable from 'piracy because fuckyou and it's my computer and fuckyou again' ?
ascii_butugychag: (that is, vermin who base their entire lives on strategic deception and multilevel chumpatronics)
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: my original attempt at v manifesto was largely about how... it is a weapon.
ascii_butugychag: and said document, at least in my attempt, was to describe some of the cockroaches that have been running around in human mind for millenia, that it tries to chlorophos.
ascii_butugychag: rather than the 'how', which is bound up in a particular implementation and probably best learned from ~reading its src~
ascii_butugychag: i called my draft simply 'v-genesis'
ascii_butugychag: ^ whole history of kompoyoooting as-a-field, aha.
ascii_butugychag: well if you think about it, the way we have it now is actually more complicated
ascii_butugychag: since folks are contemplating 'ideal v'
ascii_butugychag: no implicit delegations.
ascii_butugychag: the other thing i oughta mention is that imho a core principle of v-ism is that it is impermissible for trust to be implicitly delegated.
ascii_butugychag: (or rather, a slightly improved 'v' will run, existing one requires patch name to remain same)
ascii_butugychag: let's start with 'asciilifeform_tx-orphanage_amputation.vpatch.mod6.sig'
ascii_butugychag: give example of the result ?
asciilifeform: #6619 4862708 depends: bump miniupnpc and ccache << apparently upnp is still in the mix
asciilifeform: #6210 0e4f2a0 build: disable optional use of gmp in internal secp256k1 build << what's it use instead of gmp ?!!??
asciilifeform: remember how i wanted to buy the dump ?
asciilifeform: to even contemplate the notion that it doesn't matter, or to suggest that it is anything short of certain, betrays a deep ignorance of the actual making-things business as it stands for the last 200 yr.
asciilifeform: and if this doesn't look like 'cryptocurrency', don't complain, it is THE logical 'car for the k00l d00dz and not the 15m maggots'
ascii_rear: the company, however, i'd pass on
ascii_shmoocon: pray to satan against -competent- one
ascii_shmoocon: *mp transacts
ascii_shmoocon: i can think of exactly one: an 'mp-hawala', where mo transacts with the other 17 or so olympians, indeed requires no minerz...
ascii_shmoocon: also making jets is trivial compared to ic fab.
ascii_shmoocon: say mp or other decides to nuke. makes own alt? opens fiat exchanges???
asciilifeform: if i can't read it in (max) half hour and say WHAT EACH MOTHERFUCKING LINE DOES it is not a correct implementation !!
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-01-2016#1373771 << how many gas companies were there in 1820 london ?
asciilifeform: incidentally, one interesting fact perhaps unknown outside of usaschwitz is that one assumption baked into these 'shoes' is that owner DOES NOT WALK
asciilifeform: how would it meaningfully differ from your 'computers for the 15k, mud for the 15m' scenario ?
asciilifeform: !s heroes hang while traitors triumph
asciilifeform: standardization of components at that time had touched only disks
asciilifeform: and came with the soft, the source, and with the important detail that you could point at ANYTHING running and get its source IN REAL TIME
asciilifeform: (they did not make personal comp, nor ever threaten to)
asciilifeform: btw i'm not even sure it makes sense to compare the two - smbx was in an industry almost unrelated as, e.g., j. d. rockefeller's
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and the other computer vendors at the time were angels ?
asciilifeform: the ultimate 'computer for k00l d00dz'
asciilifeform: not even queen victoria was willing to pay for what a ~completed~ difference engine cost.
asciilifeform: as is the cpu in engine comp.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1373557 << disingenuous comparison, airplane needs no infrastructure other than 2 runways (and, if seaplane or heli, not them either)
asciilifeform: and my original (unpublished) attempt was in ... awk & sed
ascii_shmoocon: also wtf, you can't have a planet with 15 much less 15k mp's
ascii_shmoocon: didja ever read yossi kreinin's piece 'computers you can't program ' ?
ascii_shmoocon: another legendarily terrible example
ascii_shmoocon: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1372997 << if not for 100 years of chump, we'd have to make it all from horse
ascii_butugychag: 'If you noticed, yesterday at the Hutchins Center, they had a very important meeting comprised of 15 or so people. They included 6-8 members from the Federal Reserve, R3 members, Bitcoin industry members, and also individuals from greater finance. When the R3 guy was speaking, https://youtu.be/R0iArSIU0Z8?t=47m16s , he was saying "I don't know what time it is, but any minute now there will
ascii_butugychag: like the inca empire.
ascii_butugychag: orlov may not even have understood the full implications of his lulzpiece
ascii_butugychag: quite likely it is an 'imperium in imperio' upvote clique, elementarily
ascii_butugychag: a proper thing simply does not fit on this here desk.
ascii_butugychag: 'These two groups will always be at odds: the former striving endlessly to turn shitholes into nice little houses, and shabby ghettos into marginally liveable neighborhoods; and the latter preying upon the former's parks for places to sleep, their churches for free meals, and generally attempting to take the nice things for which they did no work and kick the others out.' << that last sent
ascii_butugychag: checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no
ascii_butugychag: 'pcengines' makes a cheaper and physically more compact box with AMD chipset, of same horsepower
asciilifeform: (implemented on a cl, yes, but is really a specialist tool)
ascii_butugychag: my mind is still boggling at the sheer monumental complexity of the signed-git crud
asciilifeform: how is tx malleation supposed to impress anybody with the majesty of usg ?
asciilifeform: i must be simple-minded, then
asciilifeform: 'The requirement to have signatures that comply strictly with DER has been enforced as a relay policy by the reference client since v0.8.0, and very few transactions violating it are being added to the chain as of January 2015. ' <<< ahahaha turns out i was right, even per the horse's own mouth
asciilifeform: if death ray man were not already in jail, he would find good company in oregon.
asciilifeform: 'Justice Department officials have said that if the new systems work as advertised, they will make it virtually impossible to solve some cases,as the companies have promised customers the equivalent of a house that can't be searched, or a car trunk that could never be opened.'
asciilifeform: of encryption and anonymizing technology to conceal contraband materials and disguise their locations. Andrew Weissmann, a former FBI general counsel, has publically called the use of such encryption technology outrageous. According to his analysis, even a judge's decision that there is probable cause tosuspect a crime has been committed won't get Apple or Google to help retrieve potential evidence. In essence these companies
asciilifeform: ^ and those swarms were properly computed, even
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-01-2016#1368904 << is the concept of impedance-mismatch-with-os unclear to mircea_popescu ?
ascii_butugychag: jurov: if this were actually so, and he were consistent about 'in wot', would have to avoid, e.g., aircraft with computerized autopilot
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