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awt[asciilifeform]: !!ticker btc usd
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-08-30 17:39:30 signpost: awt: what do you think the interest rate cut excuse is going to be?
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-08-30 18:24:21 asciilifeform[4]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-30#1011955 << do they need excuse ?
awt[asciilifeform]: macro twitter is still adamant that the rate will be increased. "powell is the best fed chair in history" "nothing to see here will be old noose in 2 weeks"
awt[asciilifeform]: "we have the tools to create the tools to deal with any issues that might arise"
awt[asciilifeform]: Also at long last, permanent residency in CR approved.
billymg[asciilifeform]: awt: congrats
awt[asciilifeform]: billymg: ty!
mod6[asciilifeform]: awt: hey, cool man
asciilifeform: congrats awt !
awt[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform, mod6: ty!
awt[asciilifeform]: Unrelatedly I asked chatgpt to create a python script using the openai api that implements a chatbot. Tried it out and was broken. Left it running and it ended up having a conversation with itself: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=6rJw
mod6[asciilifeform]: "with a slide out QWERTY keypad" remix
awt[asciilifeform]: Literally only input I gave it was "hi!"
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-03-17#1024729 << as if ~any of these 'gains' even come from anyffin other than inflation, lol
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2021-02-11 asciilifeform: ... a lul from linked page : 'The road to socialism via inflation: * Print money, crash the reserve currency, destroy savers, and force them into inflated assets. * Asset inflation leads to inequality. Demonize asset holders and tax the nominal gains, thereby confiscating the real value of the assets.'
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-03-17 10:23:20 billymg: inflation-based capital gains calculations finally becoming mainstream
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-01-25 asciilifeform: re cap gains taxation -- in inflationary hell, is simple theft. 'sold house? made 'profit'' 'now i want an equivalent house' 'sorry, yer 20% short nao, tax'
mod6[asciilifeform]: everyone was ridin' with biden, until they wern't
awt[asciilifeform]: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=s8nJ << Vox reporter's mind has somehow achieved immortality in the form of AI
asciilifeform: awt: there's an extra layer of lulz in subj ( somehow, Officially, the famines that took place in ru erry ~7y like clockwork for its ~entire history, 'not man-made' )
asciilifeform: 'dying of monarchical famine is great, see, like taking cyanide in a comfy armchair to classical music. commie famine, though, is like puking to death in a dumpster fulla broken glass, see.' (source long lost, translation asciilifeform's)
awt[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: was the scale of these monarchical famines of the same order of magnitude?
asciilifeform: awt: smaller scale, obv, fewer people (and most of'em were directly involved in agro, weren't being pushed to move to city & work in factory -- major thrust in '30s, w/out which ru would've simply been colonized)
asciilifeform: the 'good old' famines also weren't exquisitely photo-documented by foreign busybodies.
asciilifeform: ru fought back, successfully, against multiple attempts of 'civilized world' to turn it into a colonial congo. at considerable cost, which the folx 'cheated' of 'their' congo never pass on a chance to whine about as 'atrocity'.
asciilifeform could ask why ~nobody whines about the identically man-made famine in usa, in same period, when the latter was similarly destaffing and centralizing its agriproduction. but no prizes for 'why'.
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-03-24 asciilifeform: per asciilifeform's cosmography, the centralization (which, observe, ate ~all of planet3 ~simult.) was a technologically-inevitable, at given stage process.
asciilifeform: '30s 'stalinization' (incl. fdr's variant) wasn't optional. the folx who didn't get on that train, simply got eaten by ones who did, just same as during advent of e.g. gunpowder.
asciilifeform: ... or, for that matter, of agriculture.
asciilifeform: and, unsurprisingly, current-day usa (and erry one of its satrapies) has a centralized agro system that stalin couldn't even wet-dream of.
signpost[asciilifeform]: but asciilifeform, chatgpt says that economic incentives drove urbanization, such as people seeking a better life and more opportunity.
asciilifeform: aha, and incentives, of course, drop from the gods themselves, nuffin, surely, man-made about'em!1111
asciilifeform: famine, fwiw, is likely to make a comeback shortly, the lizards missed it and intend to bring it back, controlled famine was a handy political scalpel from dawn of agriculture.
signpost[asciilifeform]: controlled famine, mass birth control of the microplastics variety, etc etc
asciilifeform: famine (or even more generally -- situation where children are liabilities / expensive pets) is 'gold standard' birth control.
asciilifeform: pollution, imho, is red herring, asciilifeform +'over9000' folx -- was born in 'baby boom' (in orcistan, that was in 1980s, not in '50s as in usa), in exquisitely polluted shithole, didn't make any diff
signpost[asciilifeform]: pollution's a broad category though, and might compound effects over generations.
signpost[asciilifeform]: but in either case, the inflation and destruction of household sovereignty surely comprises much of it.
signpost[asciilifeform]: my great grandfather had 18 (14 of which lived) as a coal miner making a pittance, but in a better currency
asciilifeform seen houses that were owned by coal miners, that asciilifeform could not afford even if could save for 100y today
signpost[asciilifeform]: also wife was free to divert resources away from the 4 that died, and likely ought've
signpost[asciilifeform]: yeah, guy built the thing himself. still stands in nova scotia, nice house
signpost[asciilifeform]: brother worked at the lumber mill
signpost[asciilifeform]: that kind of network of effective men is itself a wealth that cannot be had today
asciilifeform: try, lol, building ~anyffin like that today (near some place you'd want to live, that is, with plumbing etc, rather than wv woods), will need over9000 in 'permits', bribes, if can even get away with it at all
signpost[asciilifeform] considered asking family to sell the house to him, before canada went full chicom
asciilifeform: signpost: conceivably, aha, you could buy the house -- but not the civilization which built the house
signpost[asciilifeform]: it's interesting that this birth rate thing has happened all over earth. even africa's trending to sub-replacement.
signpost[asciilifeform] considers this in the context of having spawned. kiddo's going to need to learn to live in the frontier, which will be everywhere.
asciilifeform: signpost: normally asciilifeform thinks of 'frontier' as place 'where few people', rather than 'spiders in a jar', which imho moar accurately describes 'civilized world'
asciilifeform: (whether the 'spiders' well-behaved or otherwise)
signpost[asciilifeform]: absent a huge boom in population, by the time this kid's an adult there wont be enough people around to turn the cranks
signpost[asciilifeform]: will be detroit everywhere, where you can buy a $50k house and every other house on your street has fallen inward
asciilifeform: cranks were turning ok when there were 10x fewer. it aint a numbers thing.
signpost[asciilifeform]: frontier in the sense that mostly alone, punctuated by encounters with savages
asciilifeform: re detroit, reportedly it is being recolonized, and the 50k houses are vanishing (just as they are vanishing in bmore)
asciilifeform recalls going to bmore to window shop; seller asked 'how many blocks do you intend to buy'
dulapbot: (trilema) 2019-06-16 asciilifeform: went and dug up 'asciilifeform in bmore' thrd, and saw that he used a rubbish image paste thing. this was a mistake, and nao corrected. perma-archive of the item nao here.
asciilifeform fwiw bought 0, on acct of not having the gigabux to occupy the place with 'blackwater' to enforce claim
unpx[asciilifeform] is enjoying Asimov Foundation cycle
awt[asciilifeform]: Interesting. Chatgpt seems to be able to translate into and out of ancient greek at some level.
unpx[asciilifeform]: I will work on Ripple (the Bitcoin spinoff)
signpost[asciilifeform]: ripple's an overcomplicated proposed replacement for swift, not bitcoin.
signpost[asciilifeform]: entirely centralized permission-coin afaik with bank-controlled supernodes
signpost[cgra|asciilifeform]: seems like it wont be too long before these can run locally without too much effort
awt[asciilifeform|cgra]: Local AI with the training wheels off would be fun
awt[cgra|asciilifeform]: !!ticker btc usd
signpost[asciilifeform|cgra]: I oughta add a source for gold data too
unpx[asciilifeform]: signpost: correct, and they ask for ``Use XRPL technology to bring decentralized solutions to real world problems.''
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-03-17 09:55:50 awt: Also at long last, permanent residency in CR approved.
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: /me recently applied for passport, should recieve in a no. of weeks
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: wouldn't mind visiting .cr for a week or two, never been abroad
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-03-17 12:55:28 asciilifeform[jonsykkel|awt|deedbot]: see photoreportage.
dulapbot: (trilema) 2019-06-16 asciilifeform: went and dug up 'asciilifeform in bmore' thrd, and saw that he used a rubbish image paste thing. this was a mistake, and nao corrected. perma-archive of the item nao here.
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: rather depressing all things considered
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform] wonders how long before audio no longer holds up in court
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