asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
btcinfobot: Current BTC price in USD: $47978.33
thimbronion: People on twitter now complaining about rising food prices.
shinohai: thimbronion: rice, ramen, and torches available at the front counter.
shinohai: make noodles over the smoldering ruins of your enemy.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: link?
thimbronion: asciilifeform: https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1359630837990387714
asciilifeform: thimbronion: unsurprise ('shrinkflation' in shops, where price -- same, but sack of $substance -- smaller -- has been going monotonically since '08)
asciilifeform: ... a lul from linked page : 'The road to socialism via inflation: * Print money, crash the reserve currency, destroy savers, and force them into inflated assets. * Asset inflation leads to inequality. Demonize asset holders and tax the nominal gains, thereby confiscating the real value of the assets.'
verisimilitude: These people have no clue what socialism is.
verisimilitude: Worse, they think it's bad.
verisimilitude: Anyway, yes, I've also noticed, years back, how the prices stay the same, but the portions get smaller. Businesses have tried to claim this is good, because customers are ``less sensitive to portion changes than price'', but that's just another way of stating they're easier to steal from that way.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: aka 'shrinkflation'(tm)(r)
asciilifeform: anyways, the 'tax the nominal gains' thing has worked equally well w/ au, and btc, and whatever other nominal escapes from printola.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: I don't notice food costs much, but I think the guy is claiming a recent jump. I mean, I saw a dozen eggs at the fancy supermarket for $8.00, so I could maybe see where he's coming from. 4.00 used to shock me.
verisimilitude: I've not noticed such. I'd think if the prices were to increase dramatically, it would be among similar items first, ie. the pre-boiled eggs sold shrinkwrapped.
asciilifeform: upstack: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-10#1031409 << imho this is a quite depressing / tumourificent perspective -- 'if can't expand biomass and fill known universe, There's Nuffin Worth Doing'
snsabot: Logged on 2021-02-10 20:09:45 trinque: in prior history the game was the expansion and contraction of empires, and modern warmaking ended that.
asciilifeform: ( see also )
verisimilitude: It makes sense when we recognize most people are stupid. I could be stupid, but prefer to think I'm not.
verisimilitude: The only way I know of to prove intelligence in any meaningful way is acts, and too few people know even this, thinking instead that feelings are all. What a horrifying existence, to do nothing novel for one's entire life.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: imho once you start even thinking 'prove my intelligence...' yer breathing own exhaust pipe
verisimilitude: There's merit to it. Don't have the impression I sit around thinking about it often. I don't believe it's a tainted topic which shouldn't even be mentioned.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: can mention, wainot, all you like. just like nuffin wrong w/ mentioning division by 0. as opposed to doing it..
verisimilitude: It's but a natural consequence of observing others.
verisimilitude: ``These people sure are stupid. Wait, how do I know I'm not aso stupid?''
verisimilitude: What a sentence to have missed an error in.
asciilifeform: lol
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-11#1031432 << posing it as the observed, rather than desired, truth.
snsabot: Logged on 2021-02-11 14:06:04 asciilifeform: upstack: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-10#1031409 << imho this is a quite depressing / tumourificent perspective -- 'if can't expand biomass and fill known universe, There's Nuffin Worth Doing'
trinque: I have plenty to do, but the cultural machine we might call "the west" hasn't known wtf to do with itself since this ceased.
trinque: could learn, perhaps. that'd be nice.
verisimilitude: I could provide more thoughts on this, but I'd rather switch modes.
verisimilitude: That saying, perhaps of Knuth, comes to mind, paraphrased: ``If only men would work on a few programs their entire lives, until they were perfect.''
asciilifeform: trinque: the cleansing war -- will come.
asciilifeform: ('market can stay irrational longer than you -- solvent'(tm)(r)(c) however)