d4: JavaScript running on the just launched JWST
mats: not the first time js has been to space, https://www.infoq.com/news/2020/06/javascript-spacex-dragon
gregory5: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-27#1069750 << but which Persian rug is the more beautiful one??
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-27 11:36:49 asciilifeform: d4: r.gabriel followed the same trajectory as erry other fella who 'went philosophical' in the sense where he decides that he's 'above' actually writing programs.
gregory5: do you remember that chapter?
gregory5: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-27#1069752 << for those who don't know, that was the entire thesis of his "Good News Bad News How to Win Big" essay: LISP upon x86 can be just as good, if not better than the real thing.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-27 11:43:57 asciilifeform: adding to this, recall that r.gabriel was 1 of the sad folx who personally participated in killing -- and feasting on the corpse of -- the golden age lispm world, then went on to write kilometers of lament re its demise.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069886 << lulzy. at least wasn't on acct of winblows...
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-28 00:59:24 d4: https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1120717959092158464
asciilifeform recalls when in early 2000s the famous 'wrt54g' was pennypinched from 4MB ram to 2MB and linux (hog!) no longer fit, vendor squeezed in vxworks
asciilifeform: js (where can't even represent integers!) in orbit is hilarious.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-28 08:53:46 gregory5: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-27#1069752 << for those who don't know, that was the entire thesis of his "Good News Bad News How to Win Big" essay: LISP upon x86 can be just as good, if not better than the real thing.
asciilifeform: could say 'stockholm syndrome', but typically is used to describe psychology of victim, rather than perpetrator. r.gabriel was solidly 1 of the perps.
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $49087.11
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 14 nodes...
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=716136
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=716136
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.087s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=716136
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.172s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=716136
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.024s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=716136 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=716136 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=716136
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.184s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=716136
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.314s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=716136
watchglass: 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.327s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715925
watchglass: 94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.363s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715925
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.198s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=716136
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.204s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=716136 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.528s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=716136
shinohai: speaking of LISP oddities I got this thing working, is kinda neat how smol: http://justine.lol/sectorlisp2/
asciilifeform: shinohai: there's 'over9000' of these.
shinohai: atmega variant still the coolest one to me ;)
dulapbot: (trilema) 2015-04-09 asciilifeform: which brings the infamous 'funarg problem' back from the dead
dulapbot: (trilema) 2015-11-19 asciilifeform: actually it is an artifact of the fact that a schoolboy implementing a 'simple lisp' ends up bringing long-solved problems (e.g., 'the funarg problem', 'lisp is interpreted ergo slow', etc) back from the grave
billymg: pest logger running again: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2021-12-28#1001400
bitbot: (pest) 2021-12-28 billymg: http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069879 << yup, looks like it lost the db connection again. just restarted
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-22 12:03:23 asciilifeform: billymg: i'm still, grr, waiting on ram for new dulap; but if subscriber 'A' dun renew in next coupla wks, you can have that one if yer still interested
whaack: trying out blatta today...just finished vpressing
whaack: !e view-height
trbexplorer: block_height: 716153
shinohai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069929 <<< v.lisp goes around DEFUN'ing everything so can be very vpressing at times.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-28 13:12:38 whaack: trying out blatta today...just finished vpressing
whaack: shinohai: are you in a blatta chan?
shinohai: whaack: im in #pest
shinohai: send mekey in gpgram and ill peer with you
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-28 11:24:59 billymg: pest logger running again: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2021-12-28#1001400
asciilifeform: hm billymg , it aint logging asciilifeform's helloworld..
asciilifeform considering switching pest spec from 'markdown' (which makes renumbering endnotes a 1st class bitch) to ~anyffin~ else, even e.g. the loathesome 'texinfo' if no one suggests a workable alternative
asciilifeform: thimbronion jonsykkel et al ^ comments/suggestions invited
whaack: shinohai: thx shinohai, will try to do in the next 2 hours
asciilifeform: possibly plain latex would work via sumthing like this, but haven't tried
jonsykkel: txt file ftw
asciilifeform: mno
asciilifeform: links ftw
jonsykkel: i guess
asciilifeform: txt purist can always parse it to txt
billymg: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069939 << can try again, just had to restart the one in this chan as well
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-28 14:16:16 asciilifeform: hm billymg , it aint logging asciilifeform's helloworld..
billymg: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069936 << whaack, signpost: i'm in #pest as well. pgpgram your peer info and i'll add you
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-28 13:59:04 shinohai: send mekey in gpgram and ill peer with you
thimbronion: asciilifeform: Never found a solution to numbering in markdown. I know nothing about texinfo/latex.
asciilifeform knows latex pretty well from the old days
asciilifeform: not used in >decade tho
asciilifeform: 'texinfo' (plentiful gripes in logs, it's a bitch to build) knows how to output html
asciilifeform: (tho normally tex/latex is used for 'dead tree' output)
asciilifeform: what asciilifeform would much prefer is a non-retarded 'markdown' that knows how to order endnotes. but dun seem to exist
asciilifeform: (tho also want diagrams)
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-27 13:08:55 asciilifeform: in search of a decent text-driven diagram shitter, if not finds one may use latex
signpost: shinohai: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=k8uH
whaack: shinohai: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=Lujo
whaack: billymg: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=hJm0
whaack: thimbronion: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=REjf
whaack_temp: i reconnected with my irc client to the server..idk if that would mean i lost my key
asciilifeform: whaack: pest keys persist to disk
shinohai: signpost: ack peering now
thimbronion: whaack: peered you.
whaack: thimbronion: hmm, should i see a message from you in my client in #pest? i don't see one atm
thimbronion: whaack you should have received several broadcasts by now
thimbronion: INFO 2021-12-28 15:35:50,992: [ipaddr:6670 whaack] <- also difficult for me to debug 9985 since I don't have that pressed at the moment. 0 c312b342a0742ffee0ae8862fc6f9a3898eef3add51007fbbfc574d8a2257249
thimbronion: whaack: dunno if you mind me pasting your ip in here.
whaack: the ip is not a secret
whaack: didnt see any messages hm
whaack: thimbronion: do i have to also peer you?
thimbronion: whaack: yeah you need to add the key that you gave me for my handle.
whaack: so i need to run 'key thimbronion <keyigaveyou>' ?
thimbronion: whaack: yes and my nick on pestnet is awt
vex: https://www.theblockcrypto.com/linked/128686/criminal-trial-for-bitmex-exec-greg-dwyer-delayed-to-october
vex: 100mn baksheesh gets you 10 months to get your house in order
vex: I wonder if the .za courts have decided if fluffypony stole biscuits yet
vex: Poor old fluffy, they're gonna squueze him into the dock and ask if he stole from the cookie factory.
vex: fat cunt is gonna have a hard time avoiding a fraud conviction even if he didn't do it
vex: we can only laugh eh bingoboingo? I'd reckon fluffypony is. It's a pity he's not been interviewed by qntra
asciilifeform: vex: imho the sooner *all* the slimy chrematist scum maggoting on top of bitcoin go to gasenwagen, off cliffs, to feed the fishes, etc. the better.
asciilifeform: couldn't happen soon enuff.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-28#1069983 << he's the kind of fella who's been fucking people over, and laffing all the way, since kindergarten prolly. all cut from same cloth.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-12-28 22:02:58 vex: I wonder if the .za courts have decided if fluffypony stole biscuits yet