asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $58369.14
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 14 nodes...
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.061s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=711962
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.103s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.142s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.179s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=711962 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.184s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=711962
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.261s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.388s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711957
watchglass: 94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.696s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711612
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.523s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962
watchglass: 75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.376s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962
asciilifeform: thinking further re this -- imho the Right Thing would be for all reachable peers to maintain synced local copies of such 'www'. (and optionally station operator can route the port on which the station emulates http server to world)
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-28 19:37:11 asciilifeform: signpost: somewhat apropos, thought of your lubytron in context of possible pheature: pestron takes a local dir and 'hosts'. peers (and optionally broader pestnet members, e.g. l2/l3) can visit e.g. http://localhost:8000/signpost and see his 'www'.
asciilifeform: ( and see also )
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-29 21:07:32 asciilifeform: jonsykkel: see linked thrd for basic outline of algo. idea is, if you have a www ('vvv' ??) of signed material, will then have as many mirrors as you have readers. and they'll all have up-to-date, authentic content of yours, trivially verifiably. nomoar ddos, expensive hostings, warez takedowns, etc
asciilifeform: imho ideal way to do this would be as dedicated station (if the world-tcp end is ddoses, 0 impact on operator's primary station)
asciilifeform: *ddosed
signpost: asciilifeform: this is how I'm thinking about it, that "www" is a dead, inert thing I've synced to my local disk from peers, with basically unspecified hospitality provided to the traditional net if desired.
signpost: matters like blog comments are interesting and should be rethought in this context. ideally "hyperlinks" become references to a hash on DHT
signpost: semi-relatedly, I am writing CL for the first time in years, and it's a joy.
signpost already encountering broken-headed things in his pylubytron that fall out naturally writing in CL
signpost: will share before long, just taking my time. the pyshit isn't worth seeing the light of day, was just a way to wrap my head around the paper.
signpost: (wouldn't make sense to say "hay folx, enjoy this impl of a massively parallelizable algo in shitlang that can't properly parallelize)
billymg: signpost: what's the best way for someone to write a quick 'hello world' in CL on a gentoo box? i see a list of implementations here and i'm not sure where to start
signpost: billymg: no complaints from me re: either sbcl or clozurecl
signpost: clisp is a good bootstrapping lisp. I know sbcl needs one, can't recall if clozurecl also
signpost: all should be in portage somewhere
signpost: clisp is written in c, so it doesn't need a pre-existing lisp to compile, just gcc
signpost: sbcl is written in common lisp. clozurecl is some hybrid of both.
signpost: re: dev env, highly recommend taking the time to set up an ergonomic emacs + slime setup
signpost: gotta have the repl running to get the "working clay with hands" sense of writing cl
asciilifeform: signpost: very nifty, looking fwd to reading
asciilifeform: billymg: i've used sbcl for many many yrs
asciilifeform: billymg: it 'emerge's on dulaps/rk's w/out problem
billymg: signpost: ah, that's all very helpful, thanks. got more in 6 lines here than would've from 6 hours of googling probably
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-30#1068272 << aha, this is how asciilifeform pictures it
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-30 15:36:51 signpost: asciilifeform: this is how I'm thinking about it, that "www" is a dead, inert thing I've synced to my local disk from peers, with basically unspecified hospitality provided to the traditional net if desired.
billymg: asciilifeform: ty, good to know
asciilifeform: i.e. 100% static mirrors, when originator updates a file, gets pushed out to wot on best-effort basis and their copies update, etc
asciilifeform: and anyone who wants to expose his copy to wild net, only needs to route port
signpost: defo, or sync to another turdbox to avoid http clients choking the pipe
shinohai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-30#1068288 <<< does :SB-THREAD work on rk since arm machine?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-30 16:01:42 asciilifeform: billymg: it 'emerge's on dulaps/rk's w/out problem
asciilifeform: shinohai: not checked, good q
asciilifeform: signpost: aha, as noted upstack
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-30 12:31:31 asciilifeform: imho ideal way to do this would be as dedicated station (if the world-tcp end is ddoses, 0 impact on operator's primary station)
signpost: ah yup
vex: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-29#1068239 casa got space for a ridgy didge cleanroom?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-29 14:45:17 asciilifeform: sadly not had time to push this effort along recently. was talking to a microscopist at local uni and right then covidiocy hit
asciilifeform: vex: lolno
vex wonders how dpb celebrates the birth of chist
dpb: christmas is an abomination http://atruechurch.info/christmas.html
vex: Do I have to read all that?
dpb: i don't watch any of your youtube videos
vex: that's a rweally good idea. I'm asking. I'm not the tax inspector
dpb: the tldr of it is, the christ of christmas is loved by the world. The Christ of the Bible is hated by the world
dpb: and i celebrate His death
vex: I probably will read. fwiw
vex: not birth?
vex: Do you not celebrate his birth for the fact that other people forget?
vex goes to read
vex: II don't read anything in your doctrine that says I can't celebrate in the same way as if he was one of my own
vex: Therre will be hecktik gingerbread & a pine tree @ casa de vex
vex: paying for Niger
vex: Anyone goes to hard on the gingerbread, I'll cue up some soothing michael buble
vex: hot as fuck here tho
vex: i'm worried dpb never left the compound
vex: i can undestand that a theological discussion might point at at html
vex: adlai is further into the sensible column, and he's in jeruselem
vex: thanks for your input tho dpb; you're a fruitloop
vex: thankfully /me will never work for the ato
vex: someone in there is bent
vex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_HArQpzaYg meanwhile, in nz
vex: bingoboingo hamplanet dectected
mats: celebrate death instead of birth? very edgy
vex: right?
mats: sounds cooler than the church i went to, the best thing they had going was a band that played christian rock for the youth and young adult group
mats: is christian rock verboten in the true church?
vex: dpb, we have questions
mats: how do you feel about chinese christians? saved or damned?
vex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUGqw5VXV4M twitter exit
vex: imma have to pop off, but good folk are invited to my christmas party.
vex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btMUecYNBc4 things dpb doesn't know about africa for 400