punkman: "is cryptocurrency haram", "yes" https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEBTuHDX0AQlUiV?format=jpg&name=medium
punkman: Nice Qaddafi thread https://twitter.com/Partisan_O/status/1459414906369986560
punkman: "American foreign policy is forever shrouded by a thick cloud of idealistic, feel-good gobbledygook that could very well serve as the lyrics to a John Lennon song.And yet blood still flows nonetheless, and every now and then someone gets sodomized by a bayonet."
punkman: and more on Qaddafi, with great BBC archive clips https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/entries/f77519ae-1ab6-3755-8416-f18d1be078bc
punkman: "over those forty years all sorts of people from the west got mixed up with Gaddafi. Some were simply after his money and they flattered and crept to him because they wanted to be his friend. But for many others he was more useful as an enemy and they helped to turn Gaddafi into a two-dimensional cartoon-like global villain."
punkman: "Currently, access to the BBC’s digital repositories is only for content makers who are making programmes or online material for the BBC. At some point in the future, the aspiration is for access to be possible for the wider public as well; until this time, access to BBC’s broadcast archive collections continues to be provided by national
punkman: bodies like the British Film Institute and the British Library."
punkman: was wondering about state of BBC archives. well, at least they have digitized it.
shinohai: Finally a reason for me to use emacs: https://github.com/qdot/deldo
asciilifeform: shinohai: lol vintage
asciilifeform: punkman: notbad, and see also.
dulapbot: (trilema) 2014-03-21 asciilifeform: 'When the glorious Muammar Kaddafi, in his blue bournouse, or in his uniform, appear on the telly, the domesticated inhabitant of the sanitaria jerks from fright. 'Monster,' 'terrorist,' 'evildoer,' public enemy number one - the media calls him, led by its disdain for all that is envigorating (and, on top of it all, foreign), and pushed by false information supplied by CIA... ...his very existence is a rebuke,
shinohai still has dozen or more remote-controlled Lovense units in box here from titsbare days.
asciilifeform: punkman: arguably 'was the original mp' (unless yer of the school of thought that d'annunzio was..)
asciilifeform: trolled, and trolled, until overtrolled. (in orcistan, they say: 'допрыгался.')
thimbronion: lol I may have just fragged everyone's stations on the test net by send sending IGNORE messages
shinohai: thimbronion: I was testing a new setup so was wondering why no one seems to see my messages
shinohai: (Not showing up in billymg 's logger either so I may have tweaking to do)
thimbronion: yeah my messages aren't showing up in his logger either. Possibly it was killed when it received the ignore packet.
thimbronion: Anyway will be publishing 9990 shortly
billymg: my blatta instance crashed
thimbronion: magick packet (tm)(r)
shinohai: kk will wait until 9990 for further experiments
billymg: thimbronion: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=2RQK
billymg: it crashes again after restarting with the same error
thimbronion: billymg: you're going to need the 9990 patch. Publishing in a sec.
billymg: kk
thimbronion: billymg, shinohai: http://share.alethepedia.com/blatta/9990-keep-ephemeral-ports-open.vpatch
thimbronion: Haven't actually tested from behind a NAT, just confirmed that rubbish messages are being sent and received.
shinohai: tyvm thimbronion, reading now
thimbronion: PeterL ^
scoopbot: New post on Thimbron: Blatta 9990: rubbish messages
thimbronion: Should probably add some code to ignore messages from unsupported versions or with unsupported commands.
asciilifeform: oh hey neato thimbronion
asciilifeform: thimbronion: bug
asciilifeform: also i readded peers , and issued a helloworld, but seeing nuffin in pestlog
asciilifeform: seeing 'ignore's in the debuglog tho, so evidently that part worx
asciilifeform: 'at' shows 'None' for both of my peers tho, for last-incoming time
asciilifeform ( seeing plenty of 'ignores' from both peers, iguess these don't update the timestamp ? )
thimbronion: asciilifeform: I see your messages in #pest
asciilifeform: aha!
asciilifeform: lessee if port stays open
asciilifeform: PeterL: thimbronion's patch in fact worx, port no longer evaporates -- try it in yer nat when you get a chance
asciilifeform: thimbronion: i wonder whether standard irc clients would eat a fwdslash in nicks. for hearsay indicator would be more compact than parens
asciilifeform: (e.g. shinohai/thimbronion when the former is being seen via the latter)
asciilifeform: for that matter i've nfi whether they eat parens in nicks, either, lol
thimbronion: shalmaneser/awt: Nickname is unavailable: Illegal characters
asciilifeform: damn
thimbronion: (shalmaneser)awt: Nickname is unavailable: Illegal characters
asciilifeform: damnx2
asciilifeform: will have to use e.g. '-' , or patch clients, i expect
shinohai: Can't add parens under `__valid_nickname_regexp` ?
asciilifeform: shinohai: q was whether existing irc frontends will eat nicks w/ parens
asciilifeform: seems that nope
shinohai: :/
thimbronion: bbl parilla
bitbot: (pest) 2021-11-13 asciilifeform: billymg: your port is 'high'
asciilifeform: shinohai: btw your last pest msg shows in pestlog but not on asciilifeform's station
punkman: "Chinese Douyin is more sanitized than Western Tik Tok in many ways but in others it is completely mad. One of the more popular accounts is a middle aged Beijing man living in Somalia with a literal harem of Kushitic beauties who apparently made his fortune as an arms dealer."
punkman: found him https://www.douyin.com/user/MS4wLjABAAAAIQJpzOnFYeZNvmbCAHqV2HALwZlCLXLSU42i5bxa9WR9qciP7Zc1AiG4v-MDrqwU
asciilifeform: meanwhile pestlog thrd of possible interest to other folx.
bitbot: (pest) 2021-11-14 awt: asciilifeform: yeah I think the irc server includes your client host info as part of your id in the irc messages. Should be able to mitigate that server side.
asciilifeform takes off hat to billymg for baking civilized logger nearly immediately after thimbronion's prototype
asciilifeform: phunphakt: if somehow, under some odd circumstances, two pest peers do not know one another's ips, but know expected port, they can find each other in...
asciilifeform: (2**32) / (60*60*24*10000) ~= 5days , by sending 10k packets/s ( (10000 * 498) / (1024**2) ~= 5MB/s ) to randomly-selected ipv4s.
asciilifeform: ... given as only 1 packet needs to get through.
asciilifeform: if spamming outta ~both~ ends -- cut the figure in half.
asciilifeform: afaik there is literally no other published protocol where can do this.
asciilifeform: if spam outta both ends, and can do 50MB/s -- <3hrs.
asciilifeform: err, 6
asciilifeform: anyways, entirely feasible.
asciilifeform: (and, by 'birthday theorem' likely much sooner than the 'exhaustive' figure.)
asciilifeform: if errybody had gb/s pipes, could even dispense with initial AT setup entirely, lol
asciilifeform: (note that the 'spammer' needs to not sit behind a nat. in the latter case router will exhaust 'ephemeral ports' and recycle, and back-connect will fail)
asciilifeform: ideally this 'ecologically dirty' trick will never be needed. but if needed -- readily doable.
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $64799.43
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 17 nodes...
watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : Could not connect! (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.101s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=709625 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=709625
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.155s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=709625 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=709625
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.143s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=709625
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.173s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=709625
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=709625 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.225s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=709625
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.244s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=709625
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.254s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=709625
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.586s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=709625
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
asciilifeform: ... likewise pest worx without modification over radio, wire, or other 'broadcast channel'. simply stuff erry outgoing packet into a free timeslot.