asciilifeform hopes to implement this spec in ada. but does not know when, realistically, would get a chance.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-08-30 16:23:38 asciilifeform: signpost: 'time problem' in fact in past yr got ~substantially worse~ for asciilifeform
asciilifeform: thimbronion et al ^
asciilifeform would have liked to have released a cleaner, moar consistent, and bug-free version of this backbreaker. but would rather get this out now than spend another 2+mo..
asciilifeform must bbl.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: congrats on publishing this!
asciilifeform: why ty thimbronion
asciilifeform: it's a pretty full spittoon, imho, i encourage folx to take it slowly.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: anything in there surprised you ?
thimbronion: asciilifeform: let's just say that I will need to do a *lot* more work to get up to spec
thimbronion: many more fields in the packet than I was expecting
asciilifeform: thimbronion: lemme know when you had a chance to work through the material and whether you think the moving parts are justified.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: will do
asciilifeform: they're there to 1) solve the 'cocks problem' 2) support, in future, usenet-style threading.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-05 11:32:28 punkman: there will be a lot of "i luv cocks"
asciilifeform: ( speaking here of 'SelfChain' and 'NetChain' . )
asciilifeform genuinely bbl, off to bed
signpost: hail satan. can't wait to read this over coffee tomorrow asciilifeform!
verisimilitude: I've read it once now, but I'll sleep on it before posting a comment. It was a fun read, partially expected and not, and I've already some suggestions and criticisms.
verisimilitude: How fun.
vex also hail satan
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $51707.05
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 17 nodes...
watchglass: 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=699328
watchglass: 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=699199
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.053s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=699328 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.128s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=699328
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.120s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=699328
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=699328 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=699328 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.173s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=699328
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.160s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=699328
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.330s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=699328
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.315s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=699328
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.599s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=699220
watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
asciilifeform already found typos in 0xFF but will hold off on patching so other folx can nitpick.
asciilifeform: ( in particular must mention -- s/hmac256/hmac512 )
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in wholly unrelated finds.
punkman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-06#1056604 << linked from article, https://millionshort.com/ , seems useful
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-09-06 12:32:54 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in wholly unrelated finds.
asciilifeform ftr holds that www search oughta be a 100% p2p affair. i.e. i see a page evidently authored by somebody with a brain; hit ctrl-meta-whateverthefuck; and it gets indexed. and if someone in my l2 (l3?..) has a query, my box is happy to serve up result of said query
asciilifeform: ... the 'try to index entire planet' search engines not only suck, but -- more direly -- have irresistible incentive to suck. fuck'em with a thermal lance.
punkman: asciilifeform: you might be interested in this https://github.com/i5ik/22120
asciilifeform: hm could've sworn this was linked
asciilifeform: punkman: i suspect that the snapshotting aint the tricky part; rather, the wot-only search.
asciilifeform: wb bingoboingo
punkman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-06#1056611 << only tricky when working with js-heavy website
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-09-06 13:28:10 asciilifeform: punkman: i suspect that the snapshotting aint the tricky part; rather, the wot-only search.
punkman: I'd say current crop of crawling/search software is quite miserable to use
asciilifeform: punkman: at one time i thought this, then realized that sites that dunwork w/ plain wget are just about 100% liquishit and not really needed for anyffin
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-06-27 21:38:34 asciilifeform: (ftr my copy was made via 'wget -e robots=off -r --mirror --page-requisites --convert-links --span-hosts --domains trilema.com http://trilema.com' .)
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, panzers! thimbronion , signpost , verisimilitude , et al : v. 0xFE.
asciilifeform: reworded, expanded things that needed to be expanded, cut verbosity where found possible to do so.
scoopbot: New post on Loper OS: "Pest" v. 0xFE.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: if I understand the spec properly, anything coming from a station is only to be associated with one identity? So we won't expect to be handling multiple nicks signed into a single station?
thimbronion: coming from = originating from and not something relayed
asciilifeform: thimbronion: multiple nicks can certainly emerge from a given station. they can be aliases defined on receiver's end via AKA and then will show up as 'immediate' message ;
asciilifeform: in any other case they will show up as a 'hearsay'.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: it is certainly possible to operate bots or guests through a station.
asciilifeform: so, to elaborate, if you have only 'asciilifeform' for me next to my wot key, but i switch my nick to 'bzzrpphft', you will see 'bzzrpphft(asciilifeform): foo...' when i speak, just as if bzzrpphft were a peer of mine but not of yours and were being relayed.
asciilifeform: (your station always knows that it was my station that sent the message -- because it was our shared key which verified the packet.)
asciilifeform: thimbronion: lemme know if this makes sense, if not i can give further example.
asciilifeform: and i also rec that thimbronion and erryone else throw out the 1st draft and work from 0xFE, it is imho much clearer.
asciilifeform must bbl