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(trilema) mike_c: i can't figure out what the F stands for
(trilema) mike_c: they will be like, "ohhhh, it was *virtual*"
(trilema) mike_c: see, the extra letter will protect you from the authorities
(trilema) mike_c: so it's basically a wager on "this bet will be popular"
(trilema) mike_c: or if there just isn't any action, then you'll lose out on the fees.
(trilema) mike_c: if a lot of money comes in both sides it works out. if it goes heavily slanted one way the whole time, not so much.
(trilema) mike_c: when more money comes in late, at a low weight, you make money.
(trilema) mike_c: you get a bunch of money in early, at a high weight.
(trilema) mike_c: somebody caught on to the trick. dump a bunch of money in early and kill the late guys. a good move.
(trilema) mike_c: thanks, i thought so too.
(trilema) mike_c: i know, that is interesting!
(trilema) mike_c: hm, interesting. a week ago the btc/usd 7 day volatility was the highest its been since August 2011
(trilema) mike_c: i have recommended it to several people
(trilema) mike_c: glad to see the gpg section! very useful stuff.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;seen BingoBoingo
(trilema) mike_c: can't afford it :)
(trilema) mike_c: well, that was fun. experience gained, miner off.
(trilema) mike_c: projected: 12% bump in 17 hours
(trilema) mike_c: diff is 1,734
(trilema) mike_c: i think i'm currently losing about $2 an hour
(trilema) mike_c: ugh, i'm mining litecoins. somebody smack me please.
(trilema) mike_c: tough to enjoy your legacy when you're dead.
(trilema) mike_c: of course, since the ancestor who made the money is dead, who cares?
(trilema) mike_c: well, people have bought labcoin shares in the last week too.
(trilema) mike_c: are there any bullshit altcoins that are cpu mineable?
(trilema) mike_c: the easiest people to scam are the victims of a previous scam. proven gullability!
(trilema) mike_c: dns problems
(trilema) mike_c: oh yeah :)
(trilema) mike_c: racking brain..
(trilema) mike_c: coinapult is by somebody famous.
(trilema) mike_c: then he'll be mad he didn't get any.
(trilema) mike_c: ah. touche.
(trilema) mike_c: they will stop seeing you as a resource.
(trilema) mike_c: tell them you lost on jd
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, but that just drives more traffic as far as i can tell.
(trilema) mike_c: agree with the mindfuck aspect of the problem. reject/accept bet ratio could get way out of wack.
(trilema) mike_c: well, as long as all possibilites are reasonable, it doesn't have to suck. horse races are parimutuel and have 8-12 outcomes
(trilema) mike_c: soccer (er, futbol) lines resolve 3 ways. maybe 'draw' should be a betting option.
(trilema) mike_c: prediction: tomorrow there will be 42 new articles about how volatile bitcoin is.
(trilema) mike_c: topace, i am a fan, not a troll. you should remove that # from the site.. TaT seems to agree.
(trilema) mike_c: it's wrong..
(trilema) mike_c: yes. misnomer is a euphamism
(trilema) mike_c: i don't see how you can tell a potential shareholder "the market cap is based on 1.675m shares, but the dividend based on 100m"
(trilema) mike_c: so to be clear: 15% of dividend to owners. 2% to shareholders. 83% to the company ledger.
(trilema) mike_c: and where the hell does 80% of the dividend go if nobody owns those units?
(trilema) mike_c: ok, you can't say the market cap is for 1.75m shares, but dividends are for 100m.
(trilema) mike_c: it says dividends will be divided by 100mm, but that doesn't make sense if no one owns 80mm of the units
(trilema) mike_c: ok, so dividends.. they will be divided by 1.75 mm? the other 15mm get nothing right now?
(trilema) mike_c: ... because i sez so?
(trilema) mike_c: fully diluted is 16.75mm, yes?
(trilema) mike_c: not correct :)
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, 16.75mm
(trilema) mike_c: 17mm issued
(trilema) mike_c: but that is authorized, not issued
(trilema) mike_c: hm, i got my quote from their prospectus. where is yours from?
(trilema) mike_c: not all 5m sold, so fully diluted ~ 17m units
(trilema) mike_c: 5,000,000 (25%) will be floated via the exchange
(trilema) mike_c: 15,000,000 (75%) will be restricted units held privately by the owners of the Fund
(trilema) mike_c: HavelockInvestments.com will offer a total of 20,000,000 units.
(trilema) mike_c: tat, show me any definition of market cap that is different from this.
(trilema) mike_c: there are 20,000,000 shares of havelock
(trilema) mike_c: no. we can argue over how to calculate the "price", but market cap is price * # of shares.
(trilema) mike_c: yes. vwap * fully diluted shares
(trilema) mike_c: market cap for a PT should be the market cap of the underlying.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, but, how can he justify redefining the words he uses?
(trilema) mike_c: and calls that "market cap"
(trilema) mike_c: um, which valuation only counts 2% of the shares?
(trilema) mike_c: topace: what's the rationale there?
(trilema) mike_c: wow. that's misleading.
(trilema) mike_c: really? so their market cap thing is completely off?
(trilema) mike_c: not much faith then.
(trilema) mike_c: you don't think its worth $1m?
(trilema) mike_c: yeah.. that's what happens when you don't have a 30 btc entry fee
(trilema) mike_c: ;;calc (1.25 * 0.0005 + .467 * 0.00066) * 1000000
(trilema) mike_c: ;;calc 1.25 * 0.0005 + .467 * 0.00066 * 1000000
(trilema) mike_c: that times 1000
(trilema) mike_c: ;;calc 1.25 * 0.0005 + .467 * 0.00066
(trilema) mike_c: 933 btc raised
(trilema) mike_c: that was market cap
(trilema) mike_c: the ipo investors must not know about dollar cost averaging ;)
(trilema) mike_c: there are ~10 btc worth of asks at least below ipo price on the books right now
(trilema) mike_c: HIF market cap yesterday: 1,100 btc. today: 120 btc. ouch.
(trilema) mike_c: this actually has a chance. insane.
(trilema) mike_c: mp, this is the.. fourth time you are going to have to update strikes this year?
(trilema) mike_c: maybe they bought those new quantum servers
(trilema) mike_c: i thought bitcoincharts got new hardware.
(trilema) mike_c: ascii, back to work! ;)
(trilema) mike_c: of course, to securely gpg it i would need a high-quality rng.. where could i get one of those i wonder.
(trilema) mike_c: ah, now that's a good idea
(trilema) mike_c: crazy. ok, i'll re-think.
(trilema) mike_c: i'm not thinking for burglar protection, just fire/water. i mean, what do you guys actually do? carve the backup in bronze and bury it?
(trilema) mike_c: are you guys serious? like, you would bury your paper backup?
(trilema) mike_c: tougher for urban dwellers
(trilema) mike_c: hehe, not this.
(trilema) mike_c: anyone have experience (or opinion) with a good fire-resistant safe?
(trilema) mike_c: with badbios floating around, you just can't trust those robots anymore
(trilema) mike_c: holy shit. yeah.
(trilema) mike_c: no manual hashing for us
(trilema) mike_c: not us deadweasel, we're associates.
(trilema) mike_c: my favorite bash, it seems to be lagging. upvote! http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=5
(trilema) mike_c: er, two cans and a string :)
(trilema) mike_c: it can't be two strings and a can, that's bitstamp.
(trilema) mike_c: i don't understand why the gox trading lag jumps from "2 seconds" to "35 minutes"
(trilema) mike_c: distributed as dividends
(trilema) mike_c: ;;premium btcn mtgox
(trilema) mike_c: i don't trust the price when we get this far ahead of the chinese
(trilema) mike_c: ham in the basement (or btc) is not
(trilema) mike_c: no, because suv is useless post-apocalypse
(trilema) mike_c: hah. well, mp doesn't agree with that book
(trilema) mike_c: see asciilifeform's previous link. you shouldn't be advertising your stockpiles
(trilema) mike_c: maybe mp's post will help
(trilema) mike_c: he doesn't have that part figured out yet
(trilema) mike_c: no way, as soon as he fixes this: "I don't have the resources or expertise to build such a thing right now" you are in trouble.
(trilema) mike_c: nubbins, did you know you are a competitor of the bitbet retard? http://pirateprintingcompany.com/
(trilema) mike_c: i quit :)
(trilema) mike_c: no tenure? bullshit.
(trilema) mike_c: asciilifeform: great story about the firewood. not often you read recent historical accounts of this kind of stuff.
(trilema) mike_c: he already did. about 20 lines up.
(trilema) mike_c: oh wow. you win.
(trilema) mike_c: yes. smaller than bmp
(trilema) mike_c: my stockpile
(trilema) mike_c: a bitcoin rush!
(trilema) mike_c: you mean..
(trilema) mike_c: what's the big deal? what's a $4 trillion balance sheet among friends?
(trilema) mike_c: ah. i gotta go to the grocery store. brb.
(trilema) mike_c: so food shortages either way?
(trilema) mike_c: i don't follow that. seems not tapering -> hyperinflation -> food shortages.
(trilema) mike_c: they've been struggling lately
(trilema) mike_c: gox missed ath by $1
(trilema) mike_c: i think this means that usd is a scarier bet than the yuan right now.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;premium btcn mtgox
(trilema) mike_c: somebody needs to wake up the chinese
(trilema) mike_c: wow, lot of work for 50 copies.
(trilema) mike_c: nubs, are you typesetting?
(trilema) mike_c: are you binding them?
(trilema) mike_c: how many copies?
(trilema) mike_c: that guy is awesome
(trilema) mike_c: you posted a picture of your feet just the other day
(trilema) mike_c: pankkake, we've all seen a million pictures of you
(trilema) mike_c: ;;ident Tulak_
(trilema) mike_c: heh, sweet. boingo, put that on your blog.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;bc,24hprc
(trilema) mike_c: thanks kako, i'll try to get it confirmed. It's srs enough.
(trilema) mike_c: ugh, did you leave? jurov, do you know?
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: do options auto-exercise? just wondering if i need to bring my keys with me on my trip.
(trilema) mike_c: ah, found it. thanks though.
(trilema) mike_c: tpb doesn't seem to have a lot of audiobooks.
(trilema) mike_c: $32 for an audiobook? really?
(trilema) mike_c: wait, its not because we don't have better fonts. comic sans ms is first. so you are weeding us out up front.
(trilema) mike_c: tree-killer.
(trilema) mike_c: possibly worth more
(trilema) mike_c: 3 weeks and no takers :)
(trilema) mike_c: i would disagree with you, but then i would be considered a scammer.
(trilema) mike_c: if by "should" you mean "should not", then i agree with you.
(trilema) mike_c: what does he write these in that he is getting the stupid fancy apostrophe instead of normal %27? i know he wouldn't be writing trilema posts on windows!
(trilema) mike_c: hah! i'm listed in there now. nice.
(trilema) mike_c: those threads mess up my chi, but they are like a train wreck. I can't not read them.
(trilema) mike_c: lots of good things up north, but low taxes aren't one of them :)
(trilema) mike_c: and cuban cigars
(trilema) mike_c: and skiing
(trilema) mike_c: ^ true dat
(trilema) mike_c: " you know, Americans do not come to Canada for the low taxes," says Wrobel.
(trilema) mike_c: oh that one.
(trilema) mike_c: which charter?
(trilema) mike_c: you would think the rest of the world would get to vote in US elections in that case.
(trilema) mike_c: nice how we can make laws for the world.
(trilema) mike_c: The law forces all banks and other financial institutions outside the U.S. to search for customers who have certain "indicia."
(trilema) mike_c: ugh, it's just broken. it is just constantly flashing that kid. anybody got a different favorite ticker?
(trilema) mike_c: i like watching the chinese
(trilema) mike_c: incredibly
(trilema) mike_c: it's not even ath
(trilema) mike_c: what the hell is bitcoinity doing?
(trilema) mike_c: wow, that's awesome about carmack. a better oculus will be cooler than doom ten.
(trilema) mike_c: that would cause quite a bump in s.bbet. dividends to the moon.
(trilema) mike_c: he tried to sneak in with minutes left and no uncertainty. this is not comparable.
(trilema) mike_c: this is why? there's 5 weeks and a lot of uncertainty left.
(trilema) mike_c: heh. you could more than double with a successful no on this one.
(trilema) mike_c: but what happens next month when the nov. kncminers get fired up?
(trilema) mike_c: pankkake: i was running the numbers on this yesterday, and it is super tempting for no.. http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/
(trilema) mike_c: 12 btc a month. worth every satoshi.
(trilema) mike_c: even a us senator doesn't have to put up with that level of stupidity
(trilema) mike_c: whatever you are paying her to hang out in the den of retardation all day - it's not enough.
(trilema) mike_c: he couldn't even sit down and read the faq
(trilema) mike_c: hahah. lolz
(trilema) mike_c: you want to know the best part? snackman will continue to bet on bitbet in a desperate attempt to get his money back.
(trilema) mike_c: fwiw, when you run a gambling operation you need to be draconian and ruthless. Not cry over stupid gamblers. This is why mp is better suited to run a gambling operation than dooglus.
(trilema) mike_c: but there is no evidence of that
(trilema) mike_c: he claims he initiated the transfer before then
(trilema) mike_c: he runs it after all
(trilema) mike_c: all you have to do is go post something positive about bitbet in that thread. snackman will put you in the club.
(trilema) mike_c: er, now its back.
(trilema) mike_c: hah. nvm. it just turned off
(trilema) mike_c: ;;bc,24hprc
(trilema) mike_c: how is mpex market maker bot working? gribble & bitcoincharts are still hosed.
(trilema) mike_c: i like how he posts links to monthly reports as proof of stealing. because of course all thieves publish monthly reports detailing their crimes.
(trilema) mike_c: gotta love that the fees for transferring over $100m was zero.
(trilema) mike_c: or careless and 'admitted' it in internal memos, etc.
(trilema) mike_c: not a negative if mcdonalds admits it was not for customer benefit
(trilema) mike_c: slick lawyers don't have to prove, just convince.
(trilema) mike_c: just the company marketing campaign
(trilema) mike_c: that's the point. it was not for the benefit of ANY consumer
(trilema) mike_c: but NOBODY wanted 180 degree coffee
(trilema) mike_c: 170, 180F
(trilema) mike_c: reverse side is that they were solely making it stronger (and more dangerous) to increase their marketing effectiveness. seems this behavior should be curbed by someone.
(trilema) mike_c: how paint stripper works at 170 parts per million, but company kept pushing the content for advertising "strongest", even though they know people open their paint stripper with a screwdriver and will sometimes spill it on themselves.
(trilema) mike_c: he made a good analogy to paint stripper
(trilema) mike_c: better stated of course by slick lawyer
(trilema) mike_c: argument is this: 1) 170 degree coffee is blazing hot enough for anyone. 2) mcdonalds deliberately made their coffee 180 degree so they could advertise "we have hottest coffee" 3) this was irresponsible and caused big harm (woman burned uterus and couldn't have kids)
(trilema) mike_c: re: hot coffee. i took a biz law class once, and this lawyer came in and convinced us all that the mcdonalds coffee woman was correct. it was impressive.
(trilema) mike_c: deadweasel: ouch. luckily, we are all in early enough to recover from our mistakes.
(trilema) mike_c: right into the bubble! nice move! good for ~16 btc down.
(trilema) mike_c: *loss? well, the most recent was a few weeks ago when i sold those C200T options :)
(trilema) mike_c: my worst lost?
(trilema) mike_c: if that's the worst thing that happens as you learn you are better off then a lot of people (like me) who have to learn by repeatedly making costly financially errors.
(trilema) mike_c: is that a 1984 reference? nice.
(trilema) mike_c: whoa. that was a significant chunk of s.nsa float. 7%
(trilema) mike_c: i'm going to start a website that "explains" all price movements and become rich. like "mpoe just dropped as people realized the owner has a fondness for poisonous psychoactive mushrooms"
(trilema) mike_c: i bet there was. "you send me bitcoin, i promise I'll send back the yuan. double promise!"
(trilema) mike_c: that is ath for bitstamp
(trilema) mike_c: that would be very fun
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