#trilema | 2013-11-27

markedathome: mircea_popescu: I have my raspberry pi mining and earning 0.00027ltc a day, it was 0.0002ltc, but I recompiled to a poolers 2.3x source

mircea_popescu: the "here" came before the "ltc" in the sentence because i order by importance.

mircea_popescu: markedathome ideally someone with 5-6 digits of the stuff.

markedathome: isn't chaang-noi something to do with litecoin?

pankkake: well there's goat

ThickAsThieves: i guess that is a funnier suggestion

ThickAsThieves: you win

truffles: goat isnt a good businessman?

truffles: ;)

kakobrekla: why the ltc mircea_popescu

ThickAsThieves: well goat and mp dont exactly get along if i recall

mircea_popescu: not a matter of "not getting along"

mircea_popescu: i don't empower scammers.

mircea_popescu: even if they are mentally ill and thus funny.

truffles: lmao

ThickAsThieves: life is a scam

ThickAsThieves: lived by pots and kettles

truffles: hehe

mircea_popescu: not so.

mircea_popescu: for instance, there are the people who are clean.

mircea_popescu: for another instance, there are the people who aren't clean, and would like to represent everything as "shades of grey"

mircea_popescu: because they feel that their mistakes which rendered them gray are unfair and "nobody could have foreseen"

mircea_popescu: while this interest is understandable, it also is exactly how they ceased being white.

mircea_popescu: and in some approximations, became black.

truffles: only perfect humans go mistakeless

ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> for instance, there are the people who are clean. --- so we're not all sinners in the eyes of the lord?

kakobrekla: but the lord only sees what you type in irc!

ThickAsThieves: and what porn you like

truffles: nsa?

kakobrekla: is why i dont have webcams

ThickAsThieves: maybe a good slogan for S.NSA?

ThickAsThieves: "We like to watch."

truffles: im expert watching

kakobrekla: maybe, i also like "fuck off nsa. ~ nsa"

truffles: -ing, er

markedathome: so having been away from sometime what happened in the saga of pirate pass throughs with patrick/kluge etc?

kakobrekla: markedathome pirate paid yesterday

markedathome: what?

truffles: wouldnt it be cool if there was a like a concent pool of people who are ok with being watched?

truffles: for free? prob not

kakobrekla: there is such pool already

markedathome: everyone with lg smart tvs?

kakobrekla: its called planet Earth

ThickAsThieves: chat roulette?

truffles: heard of this

kakobrekla: and welcome back markedathome, i remember you from somewhere

truffles: there was too much spam i bailed

kakobrekla: some irc room prolly

markedathome: yeah, was around early this year jan-apr

kakobrekla: hm

markedathome: in this very bat-channel

ThickAsThieves: in this world of pots and kettles, most are indeed filled with spam

truffles: haha

kakobrekla: where you the guy who smickles or someone else asked to do something and then parted upon agreement just to never be seen again

markedathome: it was the guy with the spotifycoin site

truffles: i should try spame someday, it surely cant be that bad

markedathome: I had thought I'd told him I was having bitcoin-qt problems at the time, but can't find it in the logs.

mircea_popescu: markedathome nothing happened eh

markedathome: I also offered to return the btc when I got back on in september. it was mcorlett

markedathome: I can find logs of me having problems with bitcoin-qt in other channels, just not those directly related to telling him of the problem.

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla iirc he's one of the guys working on that early ripple thing, with fellowtravellert and dace

markedathome: and I am having complete brainfade - it was last year (mar-apr 2012)

mircea_popescu: Apr 21 23:00:13 <mcorlett> markedathome: What's with the nicknames?

mircea_popescu: Apr 21 23:01:23 <markedathome> for some reason i got blasted off, and i don't have a secondary nick (which i'll correct soon enough)

mircea_popescu: this is 2012, ftr.

truffles: so kako why dont u have webcam hmmm

kakobrekla: cause im not a camwhore like you!

truffles: it just didnt come with my pc :)

kakobrekla: who am i watching then!?

truffles: ghosts

kakobrekla: goats

markedathome: mircea_popescu: ripple thing? are you talking about me?

mircea_popescu: markedathome yes. what was it called now

markedathome: well fellowtraveller was open-transaction? the distributed exchange system. I didn't have anything to do with it

truffles: u r being suspected of something, why wont they say what!

mircea_popescu: Open-Transactions

mircea_popescu: o you didn't ?

markedathome: nope - the only other thing i can think of was jurov's site

markedathome: but that was only as a user, not a developer

mircea_popescu: aite, i can't find a reference. i guess you probably answered q's about it at some point or w/e and ended up associated in my mind.

markedathome: also did some ui suggestions/testing on glbse 2 when it was in beta before going live.

markedathome: possibly - at the time there was the big thing with different exchanges, glbse was still in that crap blue interface before it was RoR'd and bootstrapped.

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.03305 = 0.1322 BTC [+]

truffles: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 961.34, Best ask: 962.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.66000, Last trade: 961.34, 24 hour volume: 29757.25793072, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 983.99, 24 hour vwap: 931.12442

Venat: For I have returned

truffles: ok

truffles: so what did u buy with the 35bucks

Venat: food :(

Venat: didn't withdraw yet

truffles: online then

Venat: Next casino is like 30 minutes away

Venat: besides, I was in there once with family, doing slotmachines

Venat: didn't catch fire :)

truffles: fun times

Venat: kakobrekla typo on your site http://bit4x.com/news.html April 4th Pro minimum and not mininum. you are welcome

mircea_popescu: mininum hahaha

kakobrekla: MINI NUMBER

kakobrekla: doh!

mircea_popescu: that's a very low ammount of pro.

kakobrekla: lmao

mircea_popescu: course mini mum would mean a british ex-pregnant short woman.

Venat: oh wait you are right

Venat: mininum is correct as its miniature number

Venat: i'm such a moron

mircea_popescu: miniron.

assbot: Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1484887/plain/)

mircea_popescu: !b 7

mircea_popescu: meh

assbot: Last 13 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1484888/plain/)

mircea_popescu: !b 13

kakobrekla: Venat fixd.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "A large miner named ArtForz" actually artforz may be the largest miner.

Venat: kakobrekla, I am most grateful

kakobrekla: im most thankful you are most grateful!

kakobrekla: its too bad irc lines dont compile

kakobrekla: would catch lots of typos

pankkake: some clients have a spell checker

truffles: n some just can spell :D

pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297503.msg3730493#msg3730493 made me irlol

ozbot: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]

mircea_popescu: lol that zombie still crawls around on the forum ?

mircea_popescu: The speed of the mining difficulty increases seem to slow down a little.

mircea_popescu: I take it that is good news for us (and all other mining companies out there).

mircea_popescu: totally.

kakobrekla: well getting raped less is good news if you are getting raped more

pankkake: ;;bc,stats

mircea_popescu: and thinking maybe you;ll get raped less is even better news

kakobrekla: keeping the spirit up is half of survival

Venat: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 963.0, Best ask: 967.0, Bid-ask spread: 4.00000, Last trade: 967.0, 24 hour volume: 28688.05883397, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 983.99, 24 hour vwap: 933.8987

mircea_popescu: dun dun dun 4 digits here we come

markedathome: btc-e currently has a 650-1000 btc/eur spread

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.00187001 = 0.6545 BTC [-] {3}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00187001 = 0.561 BTC [-] {3}

mircea_popescu: !t havelock neobee

assbot: [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00180252 / 0.00199489 / 0.00214999 (2585 shares, 5.15680254 BTC), 7D: 0.00170000 / 0.00202701 / 0.00246000 (59292 shares, 120.18530637 BTC), 30D: 0.00157500 / 0.0020936 / 0.00278770 (236297 shares, 494.71125106 BTC)

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 172 @ 0.00187001 = 0.3216 BTC [-] {2}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 448 @ 0.00203498 = 0.9117 BTC [+] {3}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00368898 = 0.1586 BTC [+]

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 57 @ 0.0036499 = 0.208 BTC [-]

thestringpuller: mircea_popescu do you have any articles on "hoodrat shit" ?

mircea_popescu: whassat ?

thestringpuller: ;;ud hoodrat shit

gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hoodrat%20Shit | The act of engaging in undesirable or unlawful activities such as stealing, smoking marijuana, and drinking forties on the street.

ozbot: Urban Dictionary: Hoodrat Shit

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.40045 = 0.8009 BTC [+] {2}

Venat: interesting..

thestringpuller: ;;gettrust evoorhees

gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user evoorhees: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=evoorhees | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=evoorhees | Rated since: Sat Aug 18 16:48:02 2012

thestringpuller: ooh ooh wee need a new bitbet!!!

thestringpuller: http://i.imgur.com/Sd1dxeM.jpg - a bet perhaps stating "BFL Delivers Christmas orders by Christmas 2013?"

kakobrekla: right, ship me one to somalia before chistmas

ThickAsThieves: ;;genrate 5000

gribble: The expected generation output, at 5000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 609482679.888, is 0.00412568341173 BTC per day and 0.000171903475489 BTC per hour.

kakobrekla: anyway, gotta jet. bbl

truffles: ure in a real jet?

ThickAsThieves: so basically you get the miners just in time to still lose money buying from BFL

ThickAsThieves: god forbid they ship them the day or so you order them

ThickAsThieves: LTC almost $23

ThickAsThieves: maybe we need a $50 before 2014 bet

arij: ltc, crazy

ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 981.40001, Best ask: 984.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.59999, Last trade: 981.4, 24 hour volume: 29119.81285417, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 984.0, 24 hour vwap: 937.34072

thestringpuller: hmm

thestringpuller: should I get in on this bitbet before it is too late?

nubbins`: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfie

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.20000001 BTC [-]

nubbins`: hm, captain sally is FREAKING out today

bitesak: ;;asks 1000

gribble: There are currently 1698.6083 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 1691554.15863 USD in total. | Data vintage: 161.5444 seconds

ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 986.01, Best ask: 989.99999, Bid-ask spread: 3.98999, Last trade: 989.99, 24 hour volume: 29540.98124236, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 990.0, 24 hour vwap: 938.5936

ThickAsThieves: ltc is so funny, now it outperforms btc

ThickAsThieves: .0275 btc per ltc

mircea_popescu: sorry people, the future ltc over 50 bet is closed early

mircea_popescu: hand over the btc you thought you were going to send.

nubbins`: hm, heavycoin

jurov`: lol.. i logged to btc-e after few months and found an order to sell 500 ltc for 0.98 btc each

nubbins`: every block contains like 1MB of noise from /dev/random

nubbins`: now there's an idea

jurov`: that bet isn't going to close early

thestringpuller: :D

mircea_popescu: nubbins` what's that help ?

mircea_popescu: Racial tensions are inflamed at the University of California at Los Angeles following several incidents most notably, one where a professor corrected the grammar, punctuation and capitalization in minority students assignments.

mircea_popescu: The act of correcting a black student was micro-aggression, according to the members of the student group Call 2 Action: Graduate Students of Color, which launched a sit-in

mircea_popescu: i didn't even know there's a university in burbank.

nubbins`: oh, it doesn't help anything

nubbins`: very cumbersome

nubbins`: hm, micro-aggression?

nubbins`: GRAD STUDENTS said this?

mircea_popescu: well, not really students. us people.

mircea_popescu: whatever they are.

ThickAsThieves: is micro-aggression what happens when passive-aggression sharts?

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37020006 BTC [-]

nubbins`: sharting sucks, shissing is worse

truffles: shats

mircea_popescu: i suppose micro aggression is what happens when some nigger is really pissed off and can't find a better pretext to lash out/

truffles: 0.0

ThickAsThieves: i assume "nigger" applies to any color in this example

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.37020005 = 0.7404 BTC [-] {2}

mircea_popescu: yeah.

truffles: ;;ud nigger

gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nigger | 1. nigger. A fully grown niglet. Theres one of them niggers. mark as favorite buy nigger ... 2. nigger. A word that everyone else is afraid to define except in utter ...

ozbot: Urban Dictionary: nigger

ThickAsThieves: it's an interesting concept, I always felt that black people trying to take ownership of the word wasnt the right reaction

ThickAsThieves: a better one might be to apply the term to a broader meaning

mircea_popescu: yup.

ThickAsThieves: black do this somewhat

ThickAsThieves: blacks*

ThickAsThieves: but only within their own

mircea_popescu: a nigger is anyone that behaves like what the implication of the word suggests.

mircea_popescu: be they white or not, as long as they're illiterate, aggressive, noisy etc, that's that.

ozbot: Newfie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

truffles: there are other words to describe those things

ThickAsThieves: the problem with trying to own "nigger" in the classic sense it creates a paradigm, in which all black people are still pretty much tied to it

mircea_popescu: i don't see it.

nubbins`: i'm still shaking my head at the fact that someone who thinks correcting spelling mistakes is racist was able to make it to grad school

ThickAsThieves: i may not be explainign properly

ThickAsThieves: what i mean is

ThickAsThieves: black people call each other nigger in an effort to take it back

truffles: was it only that group of ppl had their errors corrected?

ThickAsThieves: erase the slave meaning or diminish it

truffles: where is the article linkage

ThickAsThieves: but it cant work

mircea_popescu: nubbins` you have to let people in according to color rather than merit, so people like obama can go to college and be president

bloctoc: PLEASE STOP THIS DISCUSSION!!!

mircea_popescu: it's right there in the conditions of federal funding

deadweasel: mircea_popescu: that definition makes most of america niggers

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well, "take it back". it'll never be a word to denote cupcakes for instance

ThickAsThieves: right

ThickAsThieves: itll just be

mircea_popescu: deadweasel i guess that makes me a progressive ?

thestringpuller: ;;ud nigga moment

gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nigga%20moment | A moment where ignorance overwhelms the logic of an otherwise rational negro man.

ozbot: Urban Dictionary: nigga moment

ThickAsThieves: the slave word slaves adopted

deadweasel: i'll say, mircea_popescu

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i dunno that it has much to do with slavery really.

mircea_popescu: as far as i can tell slavery is a positive word today.

ThickAsThieves: to them it does

mircea_popescu: nigger is markedly not.

nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: i know plenty of people who refer to themselves as "queer" with no hint of irony

ThickAsThieves: its kinda mashed into one thing by now

mircea_popescu: imo that's all a confusion. they weren;t called niggers because they were slaves, they were called niggers because they were perceived stunted

ThickAsThieves: slavery/racism/oppression

mircea_popescu: may be.

ThickAsThieves: owning the term also keeps it alive

mircea_popescu: what i see in it (from the outside mind you) is an exact equivalent of the "lame"

mircea_popescu: lame does not mean gravity is opressing the person

mircea_popescu: it means the person sucks intrinsically.

ThickAsThieves: well i see it as

deadweasel: yes, i call those shit-heels.

ThickAsThieves: nigger was a word to equate their value with that of livestock

ThickAsThieves: subhuman or such

mircea_popescu: yeah.

mircea_popescu: just like "stupid" in function

deadweasel: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 993.00001, Best ask: 994.999, Bid-ask spread: 1.99899, Last trade: 994.999, 24 hour volume: 29031.43156332, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 995.0, 24 hour vwap: 941.26169

ThickAsThieves: so close!

mircea_popescu: dun dun dun

mircea_popescu: we shall have more figures for our bitcoiny needs

truffles: TAT are u trying to educate mp os?

ThickAsThieves: these milestones leave no time for parties!

ThickAsThieves: educate, nah?

ThickAsThieves: we are sharing

truffles: it is a weird discussion

ThickAsThieves: maybe you have some things to work out

truffles: me?

nubbins`: not maybe

ThickAsThieves: well youre the one thats uncomfortable, no?

truffles: uncomfortable no

deadweasel: no, that's bloctoc

ThickAsThieves: it's off-topic, i'll give you that

truffles: im trying to understand both points of views

ThickAsThieves: but it's not like we interrupted anyone

ThickAsThieves: i dont think either POV conflicts

mircea_popescu: nubbins` iirc queer means "funny", as in, different. at least at the root.

deadweasel: it's true meaning.

deadweasel: its*

ThickAsThieves: an interesting phenomenon,

truffles: u have a logical stance on the word, implying that the hate will go away?

deadweasel: these words have meanings only in your minds, and they will all differ slightly.

ThickAsThieves: there is a pressure for black rappers to use the word nigger in their lyrics

nubbins`: mircea_popescu: well, if we're talking roots, examine the latin "niger"

ThickAsThieves: one they put on themselves

truffles: i think mp uses it implying that its just as bad as any word like "stupid"?

deadweasel: ThickAsThieves: pressure?

mircea_popescu: nubbins` maybe too distant a root. and it's not latin per se anyway, iirc it came from spanish/creole.

ThickAsThieves: when black rappers dont say it, they are not taken as seriously

deadweasel: they were already enslaved and now they are pressuring ecah other?

nubbins`: mircea_popescu: spanish negro from latin niger

ThickAsThieves: deadweasel, all the time

deadweasel: best black artists don't use the word nigger in their rap

ThickAsThieves: best?>

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves here's the thing : rappers sell puff. in matters of puff, god forbid your puff is perceivced as less "quality" than the other's puff.

deadweasel: quality, not mainstream.

nubbins`: mircea_popescu: what's the color black called in romanian?

mircea_popescu: and so they have to fake quality. gotta use the TOP words then,

ThickAsThieves: thats subjective

mircea_popescu: or else someone else does and they're above you.

mircea_popescu: nubbins` negru

ThickAsThieves: well its deeper than that imo

ThickAsThieves: i agree thats a piece of it

mircea_popescu: o look it's a Bugpowder

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves what more ?

nubbins`: most romance languages have similar

ThickAsThieves: but it's also rooted in that white people wanna hear it

Bugpowder: Always show up for a milestonel..

mircea_popescu: hm.

ThickAsThieves: its part of the fantasy appeal

deadweasel: we do?

ThickAsThieves: listening to black gangsters

mircea_popescu: i dunno that i ever wanted to hear a word in preference of another

mircea_popescu: maybe it's just me

mircea_popescu: i don't recall anyone discovering that saying "cunt" sells porn better than any other word, so it never became a big thing.

deadweasel: i don't think so, mp.

mircea_popescu: if anything, this is the basis i'd argue against your theory ThickAsThieves

deadweasel: re: maybe its just me

nubbins`: i think "pussy" sells porn better

mircea_popescu: if such preference existed we'd see it in porn.

nubbins`: cunt is too plosive

deadweasel: Cunt Rockets 4: The TakeOff

truffles: terrible word

deadweasel: Cunt Rockets 5: The Landing

ThickAsThieves: this is popular thing, not one every individual will feel

nubbins`: right? versus Pussy Rockets

nubbins`: obv winner

deadweasel: Pussy rockets ftw

mircea_popescu: cunt riot sounds better than pussy riot tho.

ThickAsThieves: popular rap is popular with white people

ThickAsThieves: not black

deadweasel: more punk fo sho

nubbins`: pussy riot sounds funnier.

nubbins`: cunt riot, more "shocking"

deadweasel: ThickAsThieves: is possible.

nubbins`: altho neither will save you from the gulag

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well seeing how the demographics are like, anything popular will be popular with white people. blacks are what, 12% if that.

mircea_popescu: even jazz existed once whities started having ella over.

truffles: <ThickAsThieves> popular rap is popular with white people>>> orly, so what r the blacks listening to?

nubbins`: lelelelel

truffles: not what i meant..

nubbins`: uh huh

ThickAsThieves: well blacks that listen to rap listen to all kinds

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ThickAsThieves: but it def is influenced by local culture

ThickAsThieves: there is geographic loyalty

deadweasel: do we have problem we are trying to solve with these over generalizations?

ThickAsThieves: its just a conversation

truffles: that n word isnt bad

mircea_popescu: deadweasel yes. we're trying to see if we manage to erupt in full assets riot or not.

ThickAsThieves: not sure theres a point anymore

nubbins`: Assets Riot

deadweasel: just curious what the purpose is, or If I should go make coffee and bacon.

nubbins`: now there's a band

deadweasel: coffee and bacon it is.

mircea_popescu: i wonder if he steams the bacon

truffles: drink tea, its good for u

ThickAsThieves: Amazing Company Records

nubbins`: coffee puts hairs on your chest

deadweasel: i do at work, not on weekend, i get jacked on dark roast

nubbins`: tat, lel

nubbins`: AMAZING COMPANY! Records

truffles: they took it away nooo

mircea_popescu: should totally sign Assets Riot

mircea_popescu: then we could have a bacon signing.

nubbins`: deadweasel: you wanna get jacked, switch to light roast

nubbins`: there was a "performance artist" did a thing here some years ago

mircea_popescu: (i said stir. bonus points to me)

ThickAsThieves: i hear they can be addictive

nubbins`: gave himself an enema of a full bottle of red wine

nubbins`: attempted to shiss it into a bucket

nubbins`: couldn't get any of it out

mircea_popescu: meh you should use white.

truffles: lotta anus love itc

nubbins`: 30 minutes later, falling around the bar, unable to stand up

Bugpowder: http://i.imgur.com/DYfpqvh.gif

mircea_popescu: reds usually have a lot of tanic acid. which is how you tan hides. who wants a tanned gut.

nubbins`: that guy, i guess

nubbins`: peaberry coffees have lots of tannins too

nubbins`: really dries out your mouth

mircea_popescu: that can actually cause bleeding.

nubbins`: nod

truffles: anal bleeding?

nubbins`: oh, i learned that the reason pineapple makes my mouth bleed is because the core is full of meat tenderizer

truffles: im lost

nubbins`: and it pulverizes my flesh D:

truffles: didnt i tell u not to have it touch the edges

nubbins`: nono, not the edges

nubbins`: the core

Bugpowder: enzymatic

ThickAsThieves: so MPOE-PR is officially anti-Neo now?

truffles: well ur mouth is too weak

Bugpowder: also papaya. (papain)

truffles: maybe u should stop the coffee thats thinning u out?

nubbins`: have never tried papays

deadweasel: omg I hope this is not about papaya enemas

nubbins`: truffles: real men drink coffee

nubbins`: tea is for the weak and the infirm

jurov`: what an assriot

truffles: guess thats why i can rip through pineapples like a boss

deadweasel: so I'm only weak and infirm on weekedays?

nubbins`: truffles: you probably buy pineapple chunks or something

deadweasel: truffles it's because you're so full of meat

ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker

nubbins`: i quarter the things and rip the core out with my teeth

truffles: haha

ThickAsThieves: !!!

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 995.0, Best ask: 996.8, Bid-ask spread: 1.80000, Last trade: 996.99999, 24 hour volume: 29230.90252009, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 998.33, 24 hour vwap: 943.68055

deadweasel: fuckin' a

ThickAsThieves: $1000

nubbins`: oh my

nubbins`: OK

nubbins`: so all this bitcoin all time high talk

ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 995.0, Best ask: 996.8, Bid-ask spread: 1.80000, Last trade: 996.99999, 24 hour volume: 30286.01335841, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 1000.0, 24 hour vwap: 945.63343

nubbins`: combined with richard branson's latest thing

ThickAsThieves: there it is

mircea_popescu: omfg the speed

Bugpowder: wake up bitcoinity

deadweasel: right bug?!?1

nubbins`: made me have a dream about space last night

deadweasel: love that gif

nubbins`: me and pascale went up in a rocket

jurov`: ;;doxlag

gribble: Error: "doxlag" is not a valid command.

ThickAsThieves: lol rally now

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well, they fucked up. need a little signalling to comprehend they fucked up.

jurov`: ;;goxlag

ThickAsThieves: 1012

gribble: MtGox lag is 92.228569 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.184825019633 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).

nubbins`: and -- no joke -- did a freefall back to earth

nubbins`: parachuting into my backyard at the end of it

nubbins`: not sure how we survived reentry, but it was pretty scary

jurov`: 999

ThickAsThieves: whoa

ThickAsThieves: gox lagging on BUYS thats unusual

mircea_popescu: and we got 1k

ThickAsThieves: 1020

thestringpuller: http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Seinfeld-Leaving.gif

mircea_popescu: we ty.

jackmaninov: think it's just bitcoinity lagging

jurov`: yeeeees

jackmaninov: bitcoinwisdom is doing fine

nubbins`: don't thank me yet, wait til i create a forum thread where i fuss about my spelling being corrected

jurov`: no gif ?!

nubbins`: i mean about my money being stolen

thestringpuller: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1020.00001, Best ask: 1020.58739, Bid-ask spread: 0.58738, Last trade: 1020.58739, 24 hour volume: 31032.61127457, 24 hour low: 865.2222, 24 hour high: 1026.15138, 24 hour vwap: 948.33012

thestringpuller: NOOOO

thestringpuller: bet closed

thestringpuller: RESOLVE THAT SHIT kakobrekla

nubbins`: AH HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

nubbins`: FUCK THIS.

nubbins`: dumping coffee down sink

nubbins`: i'm cracking a beer

thestringpuller: ^- seconded

mircea_popescu: dump coffee down beer, crack the sink

thestringpuller: time to light up some bowls

thestringpuller: drink some beer

thestringpuller: i'm done

nubbins`: hm, should have had a jazz cigarette ready to go

nubbins`: didn't think it'd happen so soon

mircea_popescu: nubbins` well it did have a few days to breathe.

jackmaninov: TO THE MOON http://i.imgur.com/5Zo5uzt.gif

nubbins`: nod, the fault is mine

thestringpuller: man would have been an easy 0.1

nubbins`: having a hard time getting upset about it tho ;D

mircea_popescu: as they say, more people want to buy 4 digit btc than they wanted to buy 3 digit btc.

thestringpuller: this is MPOE statement week no mircea_popescu ?

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yeah, this fri

thestringpuller: that's because now the millionaires want to buy btc

mircea_popescu: better social proof, however you wish to slice it.

nubbins`: i guess this bodes well for my hoard of casascius coins

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0035 = 0.105 BTC [-] {2}

thestringpuller: my biggest fear is the day I go to crack open my casascius coin the private key is unreadable

thestringpuller: OR

thestringpuller: it has a typo

mircea_popescu: you know, i clearly recall mpoe-pr offering free bitcoins on some stripper forum some time back

nubbins`: hahaha

mircea_popescu: none of the hos took it.

mircea_popescu: it was epic.

deadweasel: they really do want 4 digit coins... holy shit

mircea_popescu: deadweasel it was like 50 at the time

mircea_popescu: o o. yeah, buys prolly gonna be raining in for a bit.

deadweasel: as china relaxes capital controls, you think many chinese will cash out for other ventures?

mircea_popescu: what other ventures ?

nubbins`: exporting cheap plastic items

deadweasel: ^

mircea_popescu: i don't see it. who knows ?

jurov`: or buying litecoins

deadweasel: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/21/business/global/china-quietly-relaxes-controls-on-foreign-capital.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

nubbins`: i'm telling you, heavycoins

mircea_popescu: deadweasel in fairness they've been doing it for a while.

nubbins`: all the ballers will want them

mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348977.new#new << meanwhile at butthurt farm, mpoe-pr creating the butthurt so btc can go up up up

ozbot: This is the story of your loss.

deadweasel: public service, ty

nubbins`: leel

nubbins`: to be fair, average investors get average returns

nubbins`: plenty of people made fortunes on each of those exchanges

mircea_popescu: do the math, srsly.

jcpham: since we're feeling so successful this morning mircea_popescu

nubbins`: plenty of idiots got fleeced too, so y'know

jcpham: rota is up in 2 days

mircea_popescu: dun dun dun :D

mircea_popescu: is it exciting jcpham ?

jcpham: HEY GUYS IF YOU WANT TO SERVE AS ROTA FOR THE NEXT YEAR GO SIGN UP IN mircea_popescu's BLOG

mircea_popescu: I.6. All Judges sit for terms of one year. <<

mircea_popescu: why tomorrow ?!

jcpham: tomorrow the 29th is when i gpg signed a key

jcpham: after that there's like 2 weeks or something

jcpham: don't make me look up my notes

mircea_popescu: well that's fine, but you were accepted dec 15th.

nubbins`: hey, i'm good at judging things

truffles: what r u judging?

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/the-mpex-rota/ < tis thar.

ozbot: The MPEx Rota pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

jcpham: thank you for the clarification dates

jcpham: i wasn't sure which one we were going by

mircea_popescu: nubbins` sadly your shot at judging things WAS RUINED by the earlier rota judges

nubbins`: oh?

jcpham: nubbins`

mircea_popescu: jcpham yeah, 1 year from your 15th of the quarter whenever it was

mircea_popescu: which was dec.

jcpham: don't listen to him

truffles: what are you judging!!

jcpham: go sign up to be next year's judge

jcpham: ,pex disputes

jcpham: *mpex

jcpham: mircea_popescu hates the idea

truffles: there were that many that judges were needed?

mircea_popescu: jcpham eh read teh thing dood, i have to sign off on the rolls anyway

jcpham: but has yet to disband it through some type of wording or contractual nullification

mircea_popescu: i just let it lay dormant

jurov`: it will be furloughed

nubbins`: well jeez guys

nubbins`: way to send me conflicting messages

jcpham: i'm not the one sending conflicting messages here

mircea_popescu: nubbins` http://trilema.com/category/rota/ < read those 4 articles or w/e

nubbins`: i don't know that my WoT rating is older than 6 months anyway

mircea_popescu: it documents a failed experiment in citizen justicing.

jcpham: >:)

deadweasel: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1007.0, Best ask: 1022.6152, Bid-ask spread: 15.61520, Last trade: 1007.0, 24 hour volume: 31555.16443743, 24 hour low: 868.9, 24 hour high: 1030.0, 24 hour vwap: 950.52497

mircea_popescu: one which cost me more than what your average new "exchange" is worth lock stock and barrel,

mircea_popescu: but whatever, for i r billionare mp.

truffles: if one does the just thing, one does not need others to decide on one's behalf

jcpham: omg i'm going to cry

jcpham: saddest story ever

jcpham: i'm not sure how it failed so miserably so fast but i don't think this is true

mircea_popescu: jcpham just the fact that i'll have this to lord over the noobs in the coming decades makes it worthwhile.

nubbins`: mircea_popescu: hm, shame, sounded like fun

mircea_popescu: ikr?

mircea_popescu: shit that sounds fun sometimes turns out to not be.

nubbins`: been there more than once D:

jcpham: nubbins` i'd still be persistent if i were you in asking where to sign up

jcpham: actually maybe we can bring a case against mpex

nubbins`: would you, though?

nubbins`: i mean, there's an article right there with "post mortem" in the title

jcpham: i'm not sure mircea_popescu has the authority he caims to have

jcpham: based on the initial "birth" of the idea

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3330 @ 0.00008 = 0.2664 BTC [-]

nubbins`: do elaborate

mircea_popescu: yeah

mircea_popescu: doesn't look like it's ever going under 1k again.

mircea_popescu: anyone wanna bet on this ?

jcpham: II.2. The Rota supersedes the jurisdiction of any other court, institution, group, organisation, corporation, reigning monarch, city fool etc.

deadweasel: I think it would make a very profitable bet.

jcpham: it's a bold claim

ThickAsThieves: you are betting we never see 3 digits again?

jcpham: it might fall under 1000

ThickAsThieves: i give it 4 hours

thestringpuller: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1016.0, Best ask: 1021.1542, Bid-ask spread: 5.15420, Last trade: 1021.1542, 24 hour volume: 31568.47965533, 24 hour low: 870.00001, 24 hour high: 1030.0, 24 hour vwap: 950.71338

assbot: 123!

thestringpuller: lets make that bet then

deadweasel: from 30 to 1030 in ayear

deadweasel: ?

jcpham: lolololol: http://www.businessinsider.com/silk-road-satoshi-paper-retraction-2013-11?op=1

nubbins`: mircea_popescu: after an admittedly cursory skim, it looks like you just picked bad judges

jurov`: good judges like me decided to wait and see

deadweasel: turned to be an old OTC guy, no?

jcpham: nubbins` i concede this also may be true

jcpham: people usually are the weak link in an idea

nubbins`: eh, ideas are easy, implementing them is the hard part

nubbins`: hence why ideas are generally worth $0

Bugpowder: STACK THE COURT.

Bugpowder: FDR would be proud

mircea_popescu: nubbins` i pickled what was available at the time/

mircea_popescu: granted, my mistake, should have waited more.

jcpham: that's ok i'm an easy target

Bugpowder: OH sweet! Retracted! I'm going to get retraction watch to do a story on it.

mircea_popescu: lol.

nubbins`: mircea_popescu: some sort of sub-100 btc baby rota where judges don't get paid, or only get paid a pittance, for example

ThickAsThieves: MPOE-PR has at least one definite error in her new post

ThickAsThieves: XBOND was profitable

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so correct her.

nubbins`: you can't just throw civilians into a set of judge's robes and expect them to act accordingly :P

mircea_popescu: nubbins` isn't this the concept of "citizen x" ?

nubbins`: maybe, not familiar

lewicki: MPOE he seems agitated and threatened that NEOBEE is getting into the game somehow

lewicki: stomping on the ground to kick up sand

mircea_popescu: lewicki you have any idea how often this was said historically ?

lewicki: no, I don;t

mircea_popescu: well that'd be a problem, information asymmetry and all that.

lewicki: I don't follow.

deadweasel: voorhees on litecoin, http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rjv6l/my_response_to_a_litecoin_advocate/ preaching to the choir in this chan though.

topace: hey mircea_popescu, i requested a withdrawal from mpex yesterday, any chance you could push that through for me ?

mircea_popescu: yup

topace: thanks :)

thestringpuller: is it

thestringpuller: like still going up

thestringpuller: like a boner and viagra?

thestringpuller: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1041.0, Best ask: 1044.0, Bid-ask spread: 3.00000, Last trade: 1044.0, 24 hour volume: 31737.89401815, 24 hour low: 870.56259, 24 hour high: 1044.0, 24 hour vwap: 951.8752

thestringpuller: ;;bc,24hprc

gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.

thestringpuller: fucking bitcoincharts

taub: choo choo

taub: yes, still going up right now mtgox alltime highs

taub: 1040

Bugpowder: use this

Bugpowder: http://trading.i286.org

Bugpowder: or this

Bugpowder: http://bitcoinwisdom.com

Bugpowder: 1044

nubbins`: http://imgur.com/EHTN7jc

ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

nubbins`: ^ for great celebrate

mircea_popescu: deposits flushed.

topace: mircea_popescu: ty, got it

nubbins`: at least i had the foresight to pick one of these up

taub: nice sites Bugpowder

taub: if we hit 2k i'm going to wrestlemania 30

taub: fingers crossed

nubbins`: heh

nubbins`: P asks "have you coated those screens yet?"

nubbins`: "not yet, having a beer first"

nubbins`: P: "ah, you're too busy grabbing life by the balls and giving them a squeeze?"

mod6: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1036.0, Best ask: 1040.0, Bid-ask spread: 4.00000, Last trade: 1036.0, 24 hour volume: 31792.64996268, 24 hour low: 870.56259, 24 hour high: 1044.0, 24 hour vwap: 952.49385

deadweasel: nubbins`: you got a helluva a woman there.

Bugpowder: well being over 1000 was fun while it lasted.

mircea_popescu: yeah. how dares she.

nubbins`: srsly, my life, right?

deadweasel: smile :)

deadweasel: i may have met my future woman last night. gonna go paint a farmhouse with her on friday.

nubbins`: at the rate things are going, i'm not gonna have a mortgage soon

mircea_popescu: paint a farmhouse ?

mircea_popescu: this is easily the most perverted chan on irc.

nubbins`: painting it red, natch

nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214589.msg3737138#msg3737138

ozbot: [WTB/WTS] Casascius Holo Error / Collectible Marketplace

nubbins`: 45 btc for a 10 btc casascius

deadweasel: ^.^

nubbins`: :0

jcpham: wut

nubbins`: i know

deadweasel: asking or transacted already?

nubbins`: asking

nubbins`: and i thought 25 was taking the piss

deadweasel: fuckin goat

mircea_popescu: pretty soon we;ll be entering "well preserved latin solidus" territory here.

deadweasel: yeah, hold those if you have'em

mircea_popescu: i bouight a trajan aureus once for about 11k

mircea_popescu: i think depending on the issue etc it may go as high as a mil or two

nubbins`: most costly non-casascius coin i ever purchased was just under 3k

deadweasel: ooh, that perty. http://www.romanorum.com.au/Info/Articles/Forming%20a%20Collection/Forming%20a%20collection/Preston-Trajan%20aureus.jpg

nubbins`: hm, that is cool

jcpham: means i'm going to get my 10 graded

jcpham: if people are already asking retard prices

nubbins`: what's it cost to get coins graded, anyway?

jcpham: i looked up anac last night

jcpham: and it's like 3 coins for 125

jcpham: iirc

nubbins`: oh, i was expecting it to cost more

jcpham: no

jcpham: it's 10 coins for 125

jcpham: so less

nubbins`: !

nubbins`: wow

nubbins`: you'd be foolish not to

jcpham: http://www.anacs.com/

ozbot: ANACS - America's Oldest Coin Authentication and Grading Service

nubbins`: although i can't see myself sending like $60k worth of coins through the mail

jcpham: yeah that's my problem

jcpham: that's exactly my problem

nubbins`: although at the risk of being cheeky

nubbins`: if you've got $60k worth of coins, you can fucking well afford a plane ticket

jcpham: that's what i was thinking too

nubbins`: not sure how that'd play out with customs tho

nubbins`: "anything to declare?"

mircea_popescu: nubbins` suppose they peel off the sticker

jcpham: it's in CO and we love colorado

mircea_popescu: as far as they're concerned this is no big deal

nubbins`: mircea_popescu: would probably spend a few minutes explaining to them what they're dealing with

mircea_popescu: this makes no difference

jcpham: i've already seen the anac graded cas coins so i know they grade them

jcpham: obv they've handled them

mircea_popescu: this also doesn't resolve the problem.

jcpham: but chain of custody is really important

mircea_popescu: suppose they send you the coin back w/o sticker. now what ?

mircea_popescu: you complain on the forum ?

nubbins`: lel, no, you file a lawsuit

mircea_popescu: do you ?

nubbins`: of course you do

nubbins`: what else, you just sniff and shrug?

mircea_popescu: don't ofcourse me. do you, nubbins, actuallty file a lawsuit ?

jcpham: i would either have to do that or eat it

nubbins`: i, nubbins, do indeed actually file a lawsuit

jcpham: at this point lawsuit

ThickAsThieves: lol domain http://www.oldmacdonaldhadafarmeie.io/

mircea_popescu: nubbins` who's representing you ?

jcpham: i've eaten enough losses

nubbins`: a lawyer would be the obvious choice

mircea_popescu: how much does he cost ?

nubbins`: less than $60k

mircea_popescu: what if he loses ?

nubbins`: what if the sun eats the earth?

mircea_popescu: no.

mircea_popescu: sun never ate the earth. lawyers lost all the time

mircea_popescu: ;;google newegg

gribble: Newegg.com - Computer Parts, Laptops, Electronics, and More!: <http://www.newegg.com/>; Computer Parts, Computer Hardware - Newegg.com: <http://www.newegg.com/Computer-Hardware/Store>; Newegg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newegg>

nubbins`: this isn't patent law

mircea_popescu: it's worse.

nubbins`: contract law!

jcpham: yeah lulz at newegg losing after diffie

mircea_popescu: so there you have it. either you put aside money for the lawuyer and for the appeal

mircea_popescu: or no ofcourse.

jcpham: they couldn't have put a more correct person on the stand to give an accurate portrayel of history and still lost due to patent bullshit

mircea_popescu: ^

mircea_popescu: they lost due to jury bullshit imo.

jcpham: it's sad

jcpham: that's for sure

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37020005 BTC [-]

nubbins`: mircea_popescu: seems risky for ANACS to just start peeling holograms on the off-chance that i won't sue them

mircea_popescu: you can either have a jury or not. if you do, it'll be made of idiots. if you don't, the state will just rape you.

mircea_popescu: nubbins` they can'ty control their employee.

deadweasel: goog ol' state rape.

mircea_popescu: think in terms of how the processes are articled in fact,

mircea_popescu: not in terms of how you would like to represent them.

ThickAsThieves: i dont even understand how you can confidently have juries for these things

mircea_popescu: if one guy that just got started woprking with anacs (or with the mail, or etc) figures he might as well, you're sol.

ThickAsThieves: ah i shoulda scrolled

nubbins`: hm

nubbins`: i'd think that ANACS would have some sort of policy surrounding what happens when an employee destroys a submitted coin

nubbins`: although just guessing here

mircea_popescu: except it's unlikely "destruction" is defined as "having peeled a sticker off"

nubbins`: i mean, this is their business

nubbins`: for these coins, destruction is precisely defined as such

mircea_popescu: by you.

nubbins`: nod

ThickAsThieves: just put it in a sleeve that says "DO NOT PEEL STICKER OR YOU DIE."

mircea_popescu: get casascius on the stand

ThickAsThieves: duh

mircea_popescu: (for a cost)

mircea_popescu: then lose.

jcpham: i'd agree peeling the sticker destroys the original value and ALL of the collectible value

jcpham: to me it renders it without value

nubbins`: why don't i just say "hey guys, why not sign this document stating that peeling the stickers off these constitutes destruction"

mircea_popescu: jcpham well yeah, but maybe you're insane. what's the court to know ?

nubbins`: this is not an insurmountable problem

mircea_popescu: nubbins` if you can get them to do that then sure, it's a constructive stgep forward.

jcpham: i *may* be able to provide documentation for the court suggesting that i am not insane though

mircea_popescu: the court will not consider it.

mircea_popescu: it isn't germane to the controversy.

nubbins`: jcpham: can't really prove a negative like that

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 84 @ 0.00203497 = 0.1709 BTC [+] {2}

jcpham: fuck the court get money, bitches.

jcpham: whoops

ThickAsThieves: just sell the coin, this is too stressful

deadweasel: http://firstblockchain.com/

deadweasel: ^

nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: well, who the fuck is gonna buy a coin for $10k?

deadweasel: assholes

nubbins`: the problem is finding buyers

nubbins`: regardless of the coin's worth

jcpham: cash buyers, yes

ThickAsThieves: sell it for what its worth and someone will buy

jcpham: bitcoin buyers....not as difficult

nubbins`: still pretty difficult

nubbins`: 10 btc is much more precious than it once was, even to people who got in early

mircea_popescu: lol that's evil ThickAsThieves

mircea_popescu: i wonder if this is factual, btc coins could indeed be worth less than the btc in them

jcpham: i think i could sell some of them back to the people i bought 'em from

jcpham: for more

mircea_popescu: logic seems to suggest this is true, or else bitcoin wouldn't be an improvement in the first place.

ThickAsThieves: well it's a collectible

ThickAsThieves: not a bitcoin

mircea_popescu: i guess it's protected because you just peel the sticker yoursel;f

ThickAsThieves: it's like a collectible that also comes with free bitcoins

jcpham: i'd like to be in another land one day and finally peel the sticker

jcpham: something refreshing like that

nubbins`: i peeled one a few weeks ago

nubbins`: felt great

ThickAsThieves: give it your real estate agent as commission when you buy your summer home

nubbins`: ^

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nubbins`: can't buy a summer home

deadweasel: i think he's confused

nubbins`: owning 3 houses puts you squarely into "asshole" territory

jcpham: need to pay off mortgage on summer home

ThickAsThieves: i disagree nub

ThickAsThieves: 3 houses in 3 countries, why not?

nubbins`: well, name a person who owns more than two homes who isn't an asshole

ThickAsThieves: landlords

jcpham: so it can't just be property it must be an actual dwelling x3

jcpham: i do not qualify for three dwellings

nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: most landlords are assholes

ThickAsThieves: in the way that most Dads are assholes

ThickAsThieves: i guess

nubbins`: heh

nubbins`: well, they are

nubbins`: regardless of whether it's their shithead kids (or tenants) who made them that way

jcpham: i sense ThickAsThieves is a landlord

jcpham: i am a landlord

nubbins`: i am also a landlord

jcpham: maybe i have not had bad tenants yet

nubbins`: and an asshole, but only when the situation calls for it

nubbins`: i've had brutal tenants

ThickAsThieves: i am indeed a landlord

nubbins`: current ones are great tho

nubbins`: hey, landlord club!

ThickAsThieves: and will probly add properties

jcpham: mine have been very much nor,al so far

jcpham: probably smugglers

nubbins`: i'll probably sell one next year when the current lease is up

nubbins`: property values have skyrocketed here

ThickAsThieves: but future properties will likely be pushed to mgmt company

ThickAsThieves: i also would not mind owning 3 homes personally

nubbins`: mgmt company is the way to go, depending on rates

nubbins`: lots of the ones here charge 1 month's rent per year in fees

ThickAsThieves: living 3-9mos per year in each or such

nubbins`: which is a bit rich, i think

mircea_popescu: someone should point out to that j b allen retard that bitcoin corps have existed for years now

deadweasel: I just sent a contact info invite to -assets

deadweasel: for fun

jcpham: i've done both the mgmt company and private

deadweasel: lol

jcpham: just been lucky so far both were good

nubbins`: ah, great

nubbins`: i had this one idiot mgmt person try to tell me that the house would never rent for more than $800/mo

mircea_popescu: deadweasel bet you he's too smart to figure out irc.

nubbins`: "but... that's less than the mortgage"

deadweasel: i put webchat link

mircea_popescu: o you're good at this.

jcpham: webchat bait links

jcpham: dirty tricks

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it's better if the women own the houses.

nubbins`: what sort of size homes do you guys rent out?

mircea_popescu: and you own the women

nubbins`: ours is a 5-bedroom, 1.5 bathroom

jcpham: mines 3/1 it's a tiny house

nubbins`: that's a nice size for a rental

nubbins`: 5/1.5 is almost too big

jcpham: i like it for that purpose

jcpham: tornados in 2011 wiped out 40% of it

deadweasel: 1891 built old wood monster. 2 bed 1ba

jcpham: so it's new too

nubbins`: ah

nubbins`: yeah, ours is in a good location, but really old and starting to fall apart

jcpham: gotta keep the water out

nubbins`: nod

nubbins`: had a pipe burst a few months ago

ThickAsThieves: basically when i upgrade my home, i just rent out the old one, rather than sell it

nubbins`: shutoff valve wouldn't fully close, and the city couldn't find the curb stop

nubbins`: had to cut a flowing pipe and fit a valve onto it

nubbins`: wet times

nubbins`: but this house is OLD. all the wiring is external, even

ThickAsThieves: ah we 2 inches of water in half our house a few weeks ago

jcpham: i've seen shitty houses last and rent forever

ThickAsThieves: brand new hardwood floors

jcpham: just needs anew roof every 10 years or so

jcpham: as long as you keep the water out

ThickAsThieves: luckily the installers did a good job, and we caught the leak early enough to have no notable damage

nubbins`: nice

nubbins`: i had a gallon a minute coming down through the ceiling

ThickAsThieves: ugh

nubbins`: yep

nubbins`: apparently there was a bad batch of copper put out about 20 years ago, and it's all starting to fail

ThickAsThieves: this made me wonder why bathrooms dont naturally have a shower drain in the middle of the room

nubbins`: in some countries, they do

nubbins`: korean bathrooms are like this

ThickAsThieves: it just makes sense

mircea_popescu: they do here.

nubbins`: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FTVdBruEU98/TFxFKAbHaTI/AAAAAAAAADs/hqWgRn8-Oi0/s1600/P1030654.JPG

nubbins`: note showerhead on wall

ThickAsThieves: one bad $10 toilet part and suddenly youre fukt

ThickAsThieves: nice

nubbins`: great, but you need sandals for the bathroom

nubbins`: otherwise your socks get wet every time you take a piss

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/instalatorotenia/

ozbot: Instalatorotenia pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

ThickAsThieves: yeah thats more extreme than i request

mircea_popescu: this is me bitching because the floor is not properly inclined

ThickAsThieves: shower can have a stall, it's ok

mircea_popescu: so water puddles rather than drains

deadweasel: nice tile.

deadweasel: did you bend the floor in there?

nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: i was in ONE house in korea that had an actual tub

mircea_popescu: deadweasel no

deadweasel: oh, scrollback

nubbins`: and even this one didn't have a shower curtain

nubbins`: so the water still went everywhere

mircea_popescu: shower curtains are for pussies.

mircea_popescu: you wanna see what's going in there neh ?

nubbins`: or those who don't want wet floors

nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348977.msg3738141#msg3738141

ozbot: This is the story of your loss.

nubbins`: wonder what the average market value of s.dice was

mircea_popescu: i wonder if i published that.

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/smpoe-market-cap-vs-sdice-market-cap/ well there's that. guess who's gladoscc.

ozbot: S.MPOE market cap vs S.DICE market cap pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

ThickAsThieves: glados is TF

mircea_popescu: indeed.

nubbins`: was he old enough to vote at that point, i wonder?

nubbins`: god damn, i love wheat beer.

ThickAsThieves: i apologize to MPOE-PR but I don't have the energy to piece-by-piece rebut. generally, i get her points but feel she's being too fast and loose in justifying them. No point restating that in new ways.

nubbins`: on a somewhat related note, anyone else think voorhees looks like Gob from Arrested Development?

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that works tbh.

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.37020008 = 0.7404 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: nubbins` 43`998`459 s.dice shares traded, for 167063.39157175 btc total.

mircea_popescu: comes to ~37

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.37014933 = 5.5522 BTC [-] {5}

nubbins`: forced buyback was what, 35?

mircea_popescu: yeah

mircea_popescu: well it was trading around 20 at the time, but it had peaked significantly earlier on. 60 or so

nubbins`: nod

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 26 @ 0.03300006 = 0.858 BTC [-] {3}

mircea_popescu: 2013-11-27 02:27:00 1.7e+308 1.7e+308 1.7e+308 1.7e+308 Infinity Infinity Infinity

mircea_popescu: bitcoincharts working well today

nubbins`: heh

nubbins`: ATH: infinity

mircea_popescu: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/27/hard-drive-bitcoin-landfill-site

mircea_popescu: what the fuck was it doing there.

ThickAsThieves: hey anyone else have this kinda phenomenon where you dont talk about bitcoin socially because when you do it's like youre creating a little monster?

nubbins`: haha, what a fucking asshole

ThickAsThieves: like a greedy ignorant little demon

mircea_popescu: i never talked about btc socially for this reason

nubbins`: tat, yes

nubbins`: generally bragging about how much money you have is boorish

ThickAsThieves: it never fails when with my wife at things

nubbins`: and even casually mentioning you own some btc is generally construed as meaning you've got a bunch of money

ThickAsThieves: tell them about what you do!

ThickAsThieves: ugh...

ThickAsThieves: basically i just say "yeah i trade bitcoins"

mircea_popescu: http://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5.0

ozbot: What is ProtoShares?

mircea_popescu: can anyone explain what the fuck that all is ?

pankkake: mircea_popescu: fucking retarded

pankkake: made me a lot of btc though

pankkake: bytemaster is so stupid

ThickAsThieves: what;s a DAC?

ThickAsThieves: Digital Alt Coin?

nubbins`: dick ass cunt

nubbins`: no idea really

pankkake: but basically he released protoshares, an altcoin, which is has a memory heavy proof of work

pankkake: he planned to mine 30% of it but failed because he got his hardware late and fucked up on diff adjustment

mircea_popescu: lol whatg.

pankkake: so he started trying to want more "decentralized" solutions

mircea_popescu: so he failed to premine his own alt scam ?

nubbins`: why does almost everything in the sphere of btc reek of a complete lack of planning?

nubbins`: like

nubbins`: where are the grown-ups?

pankkake: oh also there was a bounty of $5000 for anyone who could prove it would work faster on the gpu (as the objective of the pow was that it shouldn't)

nubbins`: "i can do everything!"

nubbins`: no, you're 18, you can't

mircea_popescu: coming from nubbins` who just got trampled all to shit hours ago over his poor litigation planning.

nubbins`: trampled, pff

pankkake: then he wanted the exact contrary, make it gpu minable to be more "decentralized"

nubbins`: your doom and gloom has no place here!

pankkake: anyway, the idea is that anything they will release next will be a chain fork of ProtoShares

pankkake: they have "BitShares" or "BitDomains" coming

pankkake: no idea how it is supposed to work

pankkake: I'm probably missing and messing up stuff, I am a bit delirious

pankkake: but really, lol

mircea_popescu: planning is hard, homie. if it were easy i'd have to find a honest way to make a living.

pankkake: I got my btc from the instamine, everything's good

mircea_popescu: how much btc is that ?

pankkake: about 4 I think

pankkake: had I waited it would have been 10

pankkake: but oh well

mircea_popescu: had you stuck the entire thing in your netherhole it'd have been 10 too.

pankkake: do note that it's with zero investment, just the few computers I have running anyway

mircea_popescu: well ok. thanks for knowing all this obscure shit, it makes my life easier.

pankkake: well, free money

pankkake: those obscure coins sell well, because noobs can't figure out how to mine

deadweasel: "Hi deadweasel,

deadweasel: and good evening from Indonesia!

deadweasel: Thanks so much for reaching out. I'm embarassed to say, I was not familiar with MPeX - just having a browse noew and getting caught up.

ThickAsThieves: ltc at .0307 btc

deadweasel: Thank you for your supportive words. I did not realize there were similar efforts going on - I hope I am not stepping on any toes.

deadweasel: I'll be very interested to hear more about what is already underway - will look you up soon on IRC then.

deadweasel: Best,

nubbins`: aha

pankkake: MPeX? how do you like that

mircea_popescu: deadweasel you're too good at this i swear.

ThickAsThieves: guy actually sounds reasonable!

nubbins`: ^

mircea_popescu: i blame dw.

nubbins`: was gonna say

deadweasel: :)

mircea_popescu: who the fuck knows what he put in the email.

mircea_popescu: coolaid.

nubbins`: that's a polite, lucid response

nubbins`: what's he selling again? ;p

mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Rolling-Square.gif

nubbins`: works wonderfully for some values of "road"

deadweasel: i just wanted to discuss with him. his ideas are interesting, if not usable yet.

mircea_popescu: deadweasel so far he's way above the noob curve, as the others have wisely pointed out.

deadweasel: hope he hops on today.

mircea_popescu: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2013-November/031215.html

ozbot: [tor-talk] "Safeplug"

mircea_popescu: this takes the "most retarded thing on tor" award.

ThickAsThieves: "I was on the verge of pulling the trigger at $65 when there was a lull a couple of months ago!! Am kicking myself right now!"

ThickAsThieves: i like this current magical rewriting of when the price was at certain points

ThickAsThieves: i saw it on CNBC too

pankkake: you'd be safer with a buttplug

ThickAsThieves: announcer saying he bought at $100 last month

nubbins`: ^ at least that stops you from getting fucked in the ass

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so now you know the announcer is a lying sob.

thestringpuller: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1043.0, Best ask: 1043.9999, Bid-ask spread: 0.99990, Last trade: 1041.0, 24 hour volume: 31845.13612728, 24 hour low: 877.0, 24 hour high: 1044.0, 24 hour vwap: 960.98895

mircea_popescu: but anyway, bitcoin is now that thing anyone wants to pretend they have.

thestringpuller: wow is it really stabilizing at 1000?

mircea_popescu: due to its anony nature, they can.

pankkake: the first rule about trading bitcoins is lying about your past performance

ThickAsThieves: yes the tone has changed for sure

ThickAsThieves: "My only concern is not even the smartest tech guys I know truly understand it. "

nubbins`: heh

thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: if someone made a bitcoin charts like api that was more reliable would you be willing to run the MPOE bot off that?

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you got a problem with 1000 ? are you an anti-thousandist ?

ThickAsThieves: theverge.com comments have totally shifted

ThickAsThieves: to regret

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller in principle.

nubbins`: no point for me to lie, most people here probably already think i ate too many paint chips as a child

thestringpuller: ;;bc,24hprc

gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.

thestringpuller: cause ^ is ridiculous

mircea_popescu: ikr?

mike_c: i thought bitcoincharts got new hardware.

mircea_popescu: but in its defense, the price is out of band anyway.

mircea_popescu: mike_c yes. it's smaller than before.

mircea_popescu: like a vaginoplasty.

mike_c: maybe they bought those new quantum servers

dexX7: ;;goxlag

gribble: MtGox lag is 4.850078 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00971950200782 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Saturn to its largest moon, Titan (0.00802 AU).

nubbins`: "raspi is cheap, let's get a bunch of those and install apache"

thestringpuller: hahaha

mircea_popescu: jajaj

pankkake: there was one company selling hosting on mac minis

nubbins`: lelelelelelelel

thestringpuller: kekekekekekekeke

thestringpuller: zergling rush!

pankkake: héhé

pankkake: why aren't koreans into bitcoin?

nubbins`: seriously, there must be a guy out there somewhere with a beowulf cluster of raspis

mircea_popescu: they are.

pankkake: I wasn't aware

nubbins`: trying to figure out how to get apache to play nice with MPI

ThickAsThieves: wasnt there recent news about korea and btc?

mircea_popescu: https://pogoplug.com/safeplug

ozbot: Safeplug: Safe, Secure, Anonymous Web Browsing From any Device

mircea_popescu: woman's head says... "Activate my safeplug"

mike_c: mp, this is the.. fourth time you are going to have to update strikes this year?

deadweasel: yes, no cap gains

pankkake: oh yes

nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: no tax

mircea_popescu: mike_c something like that

mircea_popescu: two degrees of magnitude in there.

nubbins`: mircea_popescu: is that like, yellow buttplug if you want things to change direction and red buttplug to stop scene immediately?

pankkake: http://bitbet.us/bet/402/non-south-korea/ wow I missed a starcraft bet!

ozbot: BitBet - Non-South Korean to win the Starcraft 2 "2013 DreamHack Open: Stockholm" tournament

nubbins`: ^ that shit's on tv there

ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1060.0, Best ask: 1069.0, Bid-ask spread: 9.00000, Last trade: 1069.0, 24 hour volume: 32565.53644014, 24 hour low: 877.0, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 963.61072

pankkake: oh you can watch starcraft in bars all over the world now

nubbins`: o

asciilifeform: i once read that in america, it is customary to plug the butts of condemned criminals. they are denied the traditional gallows privilege of shitting themselves.

asciilifeform: this must mean something, culturally.

nubbins`: well, few things feel as good as taking a shit

mike_c: this actually has a chance. insane.

mike_c: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-11-2013#384211

ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log

asciilifeform: once read that louis xvi and marie a. held it in for a week, prior to their magic date.

markedathome: so now that bitcoin has passed 1000usd, will 'the good wife' do a followup to their "bitcoin" episode?

ThickAsThieves: i cant bring myself to watch that show

ThickAsThieves: the name, the main actress, all make me squirm

nubbins`: never watched it, probably won't

ThickAsThieves: i downloaded the bitcoin ep to try it

ThickAsThieves: i made it like 3minutes in

pankkake: the name made me think it was reality tv

nubbins`: fuckit, i'm posting this here too

nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fk0Y6Lu_uA

ozbot: Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody (A-Cappella) - YouTube

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.15000105 = 1.05 BTC [-] {4}

nubbins`: awesome

pankkake: I can't listen to this song without thinking of the Wayne's World bit

ThickAsThieves: harmony is def underappreciated

nubbins`: right? people don't sing like this

nubbins`: fucking amazing

assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

pankkake: it's pretty good, and it's coming from someone who hates most singing

nubbins`: pretty lelly when the headbanging part comes up and it's just silence for like a minute

thestringpuller: !ticker m S.mpoe

assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00080752 / 0.00081224 / 0.00083 (30884 shares, 25.09 BTC), 7D: 0.0007725 / 0.00079132 / 0.00085604 (1112027 shares, 879.97 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00082335 / 0.00088996 (5198653 shares, 4,280.36 BTC)

thestringpuller: !last m S.MPOE

assbot: Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00082913 BTC [+]

thestringpuller: righteous

nubbins`: this one is pretty sick too:

nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klr5z0hoP04

ozbot: Freddie Mercury vs. Crowd - YouTube

ThickAsThieves: ;;baratio

nubbins`: some set of teeth on him

gribble: Total bids: 36829309 USD. Total asks: 14725 BTC. Ratio: 2501.07829 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 232.0051 seconds

ThickAsThieves: surely put a fright into some of his lovers

ThickAsThieves: chomp!

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.36126667 = 1.0838 BTC [-] {2}

nubbins`: lel

nubbins`: no doubt

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.096 = 0.48 BTC [-]

nubbins`: anyway, click that video

Venat: Such bitcoin, nice price. Woah, not central

nubbins`: ^ lel

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 25 @ 0.0322 = 0.805 BTC [-]

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.15000104 = 0.3 BTC [-] {2}

Venat: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1062.323, Best ask: 1064.994, Bid-ask spread: 2.67100, Last trade: 1062.323, 24 hour volume: 32653.65049996, 24 hour low: 877.0, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 964.51224

Venat: and we did it

nubbins`: y'know, the first time i bought a Queen cassette, the fucking thing was spooled backwards

nubbins`: i made it through BOTH SIDES of the tape before deciding that this was in fact the case

ThickAsThieves: vid gave me chills

mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> harmony is def underappreciated <<

ThickAsThieves: good stuff

Venat: nubbins`, you the one with the diaries?

nubbins`: ?

ThickAsThieves: freddie mercury babbling sounds on stage can communicate better with a crowd than most leaders

nubbins`: inorite?

nubbins`: the only similarity is the "fuck you" at the end ;D

mircea_popescu: deadweasel o look, your friend was here. you missed him!

Venat: is there a way to track how many addresses there are currently

mircea_popescu: you could parse the blockchain for all addresses seen so far.

nubbins`: addresses with btc in them?

Venat: i see

nubbins`: there's a ton of these acapella videos on youtube, some of them are pretty funny

nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSESEUMQ6WA

nubbins`: not sure why lemmy isn't dead yet

ThickAsThieves: you know there's an easy way to make acappella versions?

ThickAsThieves: it requires the mix to be favorable

ThickAsThieves: newer mixes are impossible usually

nubbins`: nod

nubbins`: you can hear the backing tracks in a lot of these, very faintly

nubbins`: occasionally you'll find one that's just the naked vocal track from the mixing board, but those are pretty rare

ThickAsThieves: it's like magic when you show someone

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14705602 BTC [-]

ThickAsThieves: and explain why

ThickAsThieves: hard to comprehend

nubbins`: the bohemian rhapsody one, you could hear a few piano parts where they happened to be around the same freqs as his voice

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.0005 = 0.25 BTC [+]

nubbins`: hm. would love to find some talking heads vocal tracks

ThickAsThieves: more likely piano leaked into the vocal track

pankkake: http://blog.oleganza.com/post/68246062759/arguments-for-litecoin-are-fraudulent

ozbot: Oleg Andreev - Arguments for Litecoin are fraudulent

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.145 = 0.29 BTC [-]

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 18858 @ 0.00007974 = 1.5037 BTC [+] {2}

ThickAsThieves: article is weak

nubbins`: hm, yeah, that's possible too

drmandude: Anyone from bitbet in here?

mircea_popescu: possibly.

drmandude: http://bitbet.us/bet/626/bitcoin-will-stay-above-1000-for-the-rest/

mircea_popescu: do you bring cookies ?

ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin will stay above $1000 for the rest of 2013

drmandude: 1000 for the rest of 2013

ThickAsThieves: no coin NEEDS to win

drmandude: but there's 10 months of closing time

mircea_popescu: ono ?!

pankkake: that's not the point of the article

ThickAsThieves: its the premise

mircea_popescu: bah. ty for saying

ThickAsThieves: that LTC is useless unless it beats BTC

pankkake: let's say "unless it offers something else"

thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I'm the cookie guy!!!!

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00049999 = 0.5 BTC [-]

ThickAsThieves: bitcoin could fork

ThickAsThieves: and both forks live forever

thestringpuller: there should be a bet for that ThickAsThieves

thestringpuller: bitcoin forks in 2014

nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb6izAqdTnc

ozbot: Talking Heads - Fear of Music - YouTube

mircea_popescu: that's about as unlikely as your favourite gf spontaneously cloning

thestringpuller: err bitcoin blockchain forks in 2014

mircea_popescu: i mean... bacteria do it...

nubbins`: full album, not acapella, w/e

nubbins`: grow up and listen to it

ThickAsThieves: i argue that you are wrong because it is already the case

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller that;s actually a good bet.

ThickAsThieves: litecoin being a btc fork

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.09008572 = 0.6306 BTC [-] {2}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2020 @ 0.00005446 = 0.11 BTC [-] {2}

mircea_popescu: i thought you meant blockchain fork

mircea_popescu: not software fork

ThickAsThieves: i did, as an example that it's also possible

ThickAsThieves: however unlikely it may be

ThickAsThieves: i personally dont find it to be THAT impossible

mircea_popescu: so is the cloning gf.

pankkake: they'd both call the other one the altcoin

pankkake: one would be named "the real bitcoin"

mircea_popescu: it'd resolve within a week.

pankkake: the other "the realest bitcoin"

ThickAsThieves: bitcoin red and bitcoin black

ThickAsThieves: or such

pankkake: probably over issuing a block of 100000 BTC for a bailout

nubbins`: like the original ghostbusters vs the real ghostbusters

mircea_popescu: pankkake nah, that'd make it clear which is the wrong one

mircea_popescu: and it'd sink within days

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14360952 BTC [-]

ThickAsThieves: http://coinmarketcap.com/

ozbot: Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations | Bitcoin Litecoin Peercoin Namecoin Primecoin Feathercoin No

ThickAsThieves: look, millions in several coins

pankkake: feathercoin +50%, lel

mircea_popescu: you have to appreciate the following mechanism : if there's a blockchain fork, the two forks can be sold and bought independently.

pankkake: infinitecoin has a better progression than litecoin

ThickAsThieves: exactly

mircea_popescu: everyone has an incentive to sell the loser RIGHT NOW while the price is still good

mircea_popescu: nobody has any incentive to wait.

mircea_popescu: so the sinking of the identifiably bad chain will flash.

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.085 = 0.17 BTC [-]

ThickAsThieves: what about the people on the winning side?

ThickAsThieves: they should wait, no?

mircea_popescu: if there's doubt it may linger, but it is possibly the most unstable situation in naturel.

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you're always on both sides of a fork. by definition.

mircea_popescu: gotta sell one.

ThickAsThieves: what of the circumstance creates that uncertainty

ThickAsThieves: if

mircea_popescu: it will still resolve, because the slightest randomness will amplify

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14300001 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: it may come down to which gets a 1hr block firsty

mircea_popescu: or something like that, but it will resolve.

pankkake: there's a blockchain fork of bitcoin already, the bitcoin-scrypt thing

ThickAsThieves: maybe so

ThickAsThieves: however none of this leads back to LTC arguments being fraudulent

ThickAsThieves: as the article suggest

ThickAsThieves: s

mircea_popescu: this is all a discussion of a blockchain fork, not of a software fork

mircea_popescu: software forks are quite stable.

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2700 @ 0.00008188 = 0.2211 BTC [+] {3}

ThickAsThieves: heh

ThickAsThieves: is that the HIF opening trade?

nubbins`: oh my!

nubbins`: forgot about that

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3612 BTC [-]

nubbins`: opening trade: 2013-11-27 12:06:312000฿0.00002500฿0.0500

deadweasel: time to start truly mining bitcoins: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/27/hard-drive-bitcoin-landfill-site

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4767 @ 0.00084209 = 4.0142 BTC [+]

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.119975 = 0.4799 BTC [+] {2}

nubbins`: there appears to be a large amount of fail happening with HIF

nubbins`: people not counting their zeroes

mircea_popescu: that's an endemic problem.

pankkake: HIF: High Investement Failure

nubbins`: turns out leading zeroes ARE significant if they're on the right-hand side of the decimal

nubbins`: seriously, the first trade was at 5% of ipo price

nubbins`: my sides

mircea_popescu: wait what ?!

nubbins`: YES

ThickAsThieves: maybe that;s fair value

nubbins`: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=HIF

mircea_popescu: ouch.

pankkake: I'm not even sure

pankkake: Humongous Investment Fraud

mircea_popescu: well in fairness s.dice got sold once into i don't recall but sometjhing like that, 10% of avg.

mircea_popescu: that was a 10k btc loss or thereabouts for the hapless author.

nubbins`: you can almost hear the screams of anguish

nubbins`: math, important

ThickAsThieves: and a huge gain for the bidder, cuz it was probly the week before closing

ThickAsThieves: and the bidder was probly erik

mircea_popescu: nah, it was a month ior so after listing

markedathome: 7500btc

ThickAsThieves: oh

mircea_popescu: the buyer(s) ? made ouyt like bandits

ThickAsThieves: i recall some great buys before closing too

ThickAsThieves: the week before

nubbins`: yeah, there was a spell there

mircea_popescu: 20ish something yeah

ThickAsThieves: too bad no one would sell off xbond before closing :(

pankkake: well, hadn't I held it, I would have told you to fake financial difficulties

ThickAsThieves: haha

pankkake: or just hint

ThickAsThieves: i just couldnt

mircea_popescu: kinda scummy thing to do.

nubbins`: scumbag asset manager

nubbins`: where's that burberry baseball cap...

ThickAsThieves: very landlordian

nubbins`: like a landlord from a dickens novel

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.0035 = 0.245 BTC [-] {2}

nubbins`: can i just say that i had no idea how much having a safety deposit box makes you feel like a baller?

ThickAsThieves: LOL

nubbins`: srsly, special privacy rooms and shit

ThickAsThieves: oops caps

nubbins`: "i'll just give you some privacy, mr keefe"

mircea_popescu: i wonder how long before google starts running its own blockchain

ThickAsThieves: hmm OneFixt is calling a drop to 760, 600

ThickAsThieves: pretty bold

mircea_popescu: in order to be able to serve queries like google 2bce51603d490da5a76b56a8f36665b26ed9a4cc1da24e5eedf1101a25d96155

nubbins`: hm

nubbins`: probably only a matter of time

pankkake: why would they need something decentralized?

nubbins`: you can already do a crazy amount of stuff via google

ThickAsThieves: maybe they find way to circumvent NSA via blockchain

mircea_popescu: the blockchain ios such a poor messaging protocol./

pankkake: actually bitcoin is more, it's trustless

ThickAsThieves: more likely,

pankkake: and google could trust all its nodes

ThickAsThieves: theyll start gathering data on BTC addresses

ThickAsThieves: to start tagging them

deadweasel: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

nubbins`: https://www.google.ca/search?q=once+in+a+blue+moon+*+number+of+horns+on+a+unicorn

deadweasel: sry

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves all data is already gathered ya know ?

ThickAsThieves: 1Gkjhkf456KGHFrtds449875t85 addy will have "like cat videos" "shops at newegg" etc

pankkake: what's this blue moon thing?

nubbins`: actual lunar occurrence

nubbins`: https://www.google.ca/search?q=the+answer+to+life%2C+the+universe+and+everything+*+the+loneliest+number

nubbins`: and so on

pankkake: oh, sad 1 :/

nubbins`: D:

ThickAsThieves: how is it not worth $7.5m to dig up a 4-foot deep football field?

nubbins`: https://www.google.ca/search?q=a+baker's+dozen+%2F+once+in+a+blue+moon

nubbins`: well, it's an active landfill

nubbins`: he's probably not allowed

ThickAsThieves: he talks like he is

ThickAsThieves: he basically says he doesnt feel like it

nubbins`: maybe he should rent an excavator like he is

nubbins`: i mean, how would you ever find it anyway

nubbins`: you'd literally have to sort through every piece of trash

ThickAsThieves: well you put everything on a conveyor back into the dump

ThickAsThieves: and stand there every day

nubbins`: every empty potato chip bag, every shitty diaper

nubbins`: and then at the end you find a smashed hard drive covered in dog vomit

nubbins`: and thusly commit your body to the dump

mircea_popescu: that drive is gone

nubbins`: as a final gesture of anguish

mircea_popescu: andthe story smells like attention whoring tbh.

ThickAsThieves: probly

deadweasel: yup

ThickAsThieves: but those coins are probly $20m or whatever next week...

nubbins`: "hard luck, plz donate to 1TotallyDidntMakeStoryUp92837

nubbins`: "

pankkake: even if fake I'm sure that story happenned elsewhere or will

pankkake: but no one will talk about it

nubbins`: pretty much broadcasting your idiocy to the world

nubbins`: why not just use the forums, amirite?

ThickAsThieves: i coulda been a contender!

mircea_popescu: lol nubbins` has it.

nubbins`: (snare x2, crash x1)

ThickAsThieves: badoom tsssss

nubbins`: http://instantrimshot.com/

ozbot: Welcome to Instant Rimshot

pankkake: on the french forum one guy claimed to have many bitcoins but password protected and he forgot it

nubbins`: y'know, i didn't really intend for this to be my nick

pankkake: but at the time wallet encryption didn't exist

nubbins`: i wanted to post something on the forums and just signed up with the first word that popped into my head

pankkake: and he wouldn't reply on what he used to encrypt it

nubbins`: pankkake: winzip ;)

pankkake: hehe, well, if it was, it would be so easily recoverable

nubbins`: WAIT YOU CAN CRACK WINZIP PASSWORDS?!!?!?

deadweasel: ya

deadweasel: srs?

pankkake: the old algorithms are pretty bad IIRC

nubbins`: not srs

ThickAsThieves: so in 2020 will we have treasure hunters scowering the earth for computers trashed in 2011, 2012

deadweasel: :D

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves they all go to africa

mircea_popescu: so yet another reason for those ppl to import old hardware.

deadweasel: fuck, better get started now! i could start getting togbether an ultrasonic profile of laptop drive matching the model... maybe I could find it.

ThickAsThieves: well i'd approach it dmeographically first

deadweasel: although I'd also hav eto know the profile of every piece of shitty garbage

ThickAsThieves: try to pinpoint hubs of people likely to have mined somehow

ThickAsThieves: like maybe all these PCs are still in garages

ThickAsThieves: since no one throws their PCs away

ThickAsThieves: or in thrift stores

ThickAsThieves: salvation armies and such

mircea_popescu: thrift store owner, the job of the future.

deadweasel: you should run a computer disposal service that only accepts btc!

ThickAsThieves: thats not right

ThickAsThieves: wrong audience

nubbins`: people pay to dispose of computers?

deadweasel: not very much, but yes, they have to. enviro terror otherwise

nubbins`: have to != do

nubbins`: you "have to" pay $50 to throw an old television away

nubbins`: but people just toss 'em into the bins at the dump anyway

deadweasel: big companies pay, individuals won't

nubbins`: yeah, fair enough

deadweasel: they do, don't they? i forget how much garbage is actually sorted.

nubbins`: depends on the region

deadweasel: i lived on a landfill for a few weeks. reclaimed section with exotic wildlife on it, mind you.

ThickAsThieves: this really has to be the dumps problem

nubbins`: they decided to build the dump at the edge of the ocean here

pankkake: I still use a 15 year old computer!

pankkake: I'm like totally environmental

nubbins`: there's a lovely section of the East Coast Trail that runs right past it

nubbins`: woods littered with teeny tiny bits of plastic

nubbins`: and a big sign at the end that says "why not use less plastic bags?"

markedathome: so new money making scheme is to buy every corporate hd on ebay to see if they have bitcoin wallets?

ThickAsThieves: lol the thing is so old it couldnt pass a an emissions inspection probly

deadweasel: plastic bags were a bane, I basically went around picking them up all day so animals wouldn't choke.

nubbins`: plastic bags are moronically wasteful

mircea_popescu: http://liberationbc.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/turtle-caught-in-plastic-ring.jpg

pankkake: works with humans too https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Kayan_woman_with_neck_rings.jpg

mircea_popescu: In 2009, marine biologists with Disneys Animal Programs in Melbourne Beach, Florida, discovered a green sea turtle that was having trouble digesting food. They found that a piece of plastic had lodged in the turtles gastrointestinal tract. When biologists removed the obstruction, the turtle defecated 74 foreign objects in the subsequent month. Among the items documented were four types of latex balloons, five dif

mircea_popescu: ferent types of string, nine different types of soft plastic, four different types of hard plastic, a piece of carpet-like material, and two tar balls to boot.

pankkake: :/

pankkake: I hate litterers

mircea_popescu: tar balls!

ThickAsThieves: that turtle has a strange appetite

nubbins`: yeah

deadweasel: that is documented it nearly every living animal these days, some sort of plastic.

nubbins`: not even dogs are that stupid

nubbins`: seriously, tar balls

pankkake: tar balls, that's unixe

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.0035 = 0.119 BTC [-]

deadweasel: they eat shit

deadweasel: tar balls surprise?

nubbins`: at least shit was food at some point

deadweasel: it is a pretty cool looking turtle mind you.

nubbins`: nod

deadweasel: baddonkadonk

nubbins`: given the choice, i'm sure he'd rather have skipped the corsetry tho

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.3612 = 2.5284 BTC [-]

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.0034312 = 0.1201 BTC [-]

deadweasel: most women ofthe 18th century would have too.

deadweasel: but fuck'em

deadweasel: and butt fuck'em

deadweasel: because btc @1000!

pankkake: AM100 is now worth 1 LTC!

mircea_popescu: lmao all this hating.

pankkake: oh now, a zero more

deadweasel: i'm loving

pankkake: sorry for my havelockism

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.35977076 = 3.9575 BTC [-] {3}

ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1061.00001, Best ask: 1066.92478, Bid-ask spread: 5.92477, Last trade: 1066.99997, 24 hour volume: 33579.21896322, 24 hour low: 882.00001, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 970.64069

mike_c: HIF market cap yesterday: 1,100 btc. today: 120 btc. ouch.

ThickAsThieves: ;;bids 1000

gribble: There are currently 1157.0369 bitcoins demanded at or over 1000.0 USD, worth 1181926.43421 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.1184 seconds

nubbins`: mike_c: still not really sure if it's people legit selling or just not counting zeroes

nubbins`: like

pankkake: gotta catch 'em all

nubbins`: why the fuck would you buy something and then IMMEDIATELY sell it for 10% of its value?

nubbins`: without even waiting a couple of hours?

pankkake: panic, ragequit?

mike_c: there are ~10 btc worth of asks at least below ipo price on the books right now

nubbins`: yeah

nubbins`: boggles

ThickAsThieves: everyone that wants it bought it

mike_c: the ipo investors must not know about dollar cost averaging ;)

nubbins`: i guess if the shiny doesn't double in value immediately, it's better to take a 90% loss?

ThickAsThieves: what was raised initially? did someone say 1100?

mike_c: that was market cap

ThickAsThieves: so less

mike_c: yeah

nubbins`: ~1.75mn shares i think

nubbins`: 1.25 at 0.0005

mike_c: 933 btc raised

ThickAsThieves: word

ThickAsThieves: thx

ThickAsThieves: almost $1m

mike_c: ;;calc 1.25 * 0.0005 + .467 * 0.00066

gribble: 0.00093322

pankkake: not enough to do a realsolid

mike_c: that times 1000

mike_c: er, 1m

mike_c: ;;calc 1.25 * 0.0005 + .467 * 0.00066 * 1000000

gribble: 308.220625

mike_c: ;;calc (1.25 * 0.0005 + .467 * 0.00066) * 1000000

gribble: 933.22

mike_c: there

nubbins`: i dunno, i honestly think people just saw a "7" in the bid column

nubbins`: said "profit!"

nubbins`: and sold without checking numbers

mike_c: yeah.. that's what happens when you don't have a 30 btc entry fee

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3537777 BTC [-]

ThickAsThieves: while i would invest in Havelock, it would not be at the original price

pankkake: so what's your buy order at?

mike_c: you don't think its worth $1m?

mike_c: not much faith then.

ThickAsThieves: well 1.75m shares is like 1.75% of company right?

mike_c: ah

mike_c: really? so their market cap thing is completely off?

ThickAsThieves: it only counts issued shares

mike_c: wow. that's misleading.

nubbins`: is it tho

mike_c: topace: what's the rationale there?

ThickAsThieves: so in that sense i'm not sure the buy orders are ridiculous at all

ThickAsThieves: maybe even overpaying still

ThickAsThieves: depends on your valuation

nubbins`: i am interested to see how this "50 new funds" thing works out for them

nubbins`: pretty skeptical

mike_c: um, which valuation only counts 2% of the shares?

pankkake: my interpretation is "50 guys sent a mail to get listed"

mike_c: and calls that "market cap"

pankkake: not "50 funds will go live asap"

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.145 BTC [+]

nubbins`: mike_c: i guess they mean "this particular market" ;p

ThickAsThieves: market cap probly shouldnt be displayed at all

mike_c: yeah, but, how can he justify redefining the words he uses?

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.35177001 BTC [-]

nubbins`: people do it all the time

nubbins`: see: "geniune" windows

ThickAsThieves: for example market cap is meaningless for a PT

mike_c: market cap for a PT should be the market cap of the underlying.

ThickAsThieves: so you index all places it sells and sum the value?

ThickAsThieves: and then you average any not on market?

pankkake: how would that work for, say, AM100?

mike_c: yes. vwap * fully diluted shares

ThickAsThieves: and shares on 796.com

assbot: 123!

ThickAsThieves: and auctions

ThickAsThieves: etc

nubbins`: still trying to figure out what triggers "123!"

ThickAsThieves: both ways of showing market cap are useful info

ThickAsThieves: but context is required

pankkake: nubbins`: 796

assbot: 123!

nubbins`: ah, heh

nubbins`: it's happened to me a few times today

ThickAsThieves: ABC

ThickAsThieves: boo

nubbins`: AM is a poor example

pankkake: it happens with large numbers, it's silly

nubbins`: total noob question here, but are there any traditional assets that are traded simultaneously on, say, NYSE/LSE/TSE?

nubbins`: that's at least a starting point for this question of market cap

mike_c: no. we can argue over how to calculate the "price", but market cap is price * # of shares.

nubbins`: and i'm not talking like coca cola canada being listed on toronto stock exchange, i mean the exact same company

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.35177 = 1.4071 BTC [-]

mike_c: there are 20,000,000 shares of havelock

mike_c: not 1.9

ThickAsThieves: no

nubbins`: sure, i'm talking about AM now

pankkake: I think there is even assets traded in multiple currencies, like HSBC

mike_c: tat, show me any definition of market cap that is different from this.

nubbins`: sure, but is that the same HSBC or is it regional companies?

ThickAsThieves: i was disagreeing with the 20m

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.35073366 = 1.0522 BTC [-] {3}

ThickAsThieves: the shares represent a portion of the company

ThickAsThieves: not 100%

mike_c: HavelockInvestments.com will offer a total of 20,000,000 units.

mike_c: 15,000,000 (75%) will be restricted units held privately by the owners of the Fund

mike_c: 5,000,000 (25%) will be floated via the exchange

mike_c: not all 5m sold, so fully diluted ~ 17m units

pankkake: well I learned about it in http://ordrespontane.blogspot.com/2013/09/un-peu-de-magie.html and it seems to be the same (it talks about arbitrage basically. sorry for the French)

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.35003334 = 1.0501 BTC [-] {2}

ThickAsThieves: one sec

ThickAsThieves: i wanna quote it

ThickAsThieves: This offer will represent Twenty Percent (20%) in virtual units of the HavlockInvestments.com which is comprised in total of 100,000,000 units of the Fund. These units will never be diluted.

pankkake: they're already pretty diluted. homeopathic shares

mike_c: hm, i got my quote from their prospectus. where is yours from?

mike_c: oh

ThickAsThieves: page 2

mike_c: but that is authorized, not issued

mike_c: 17mm issued

mike_c: ?

ThickAsThieves: 20,000,000 of 100m issued

ThickAsThieves: 1.75m actually sold

ThickAsThieves: so

mike_c: yeah, 16.75mm

ThickAsThieves: the market cap you see

ThickAsThieves: represents only those

topace: ^ correct

mike_c: not correct :)

mike_c: fully diluted is 16.75mm, yes?

ThickAsThieves: no

mike_c: ... because i sez so?

ThickAsThieves: it says in the quote there 100m shares man

ThickAsThieves: only the ones sold in the IPO are publically traded

topace: there are 100m shares, 20m shares _will_ be on havelock eventually, 15m held privately on havelock, 5m floated. so far the 15m have not been allocated on havelock

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.35 = 4.55 BTC [-]

ThickAsThieves: i'm not clear on whether Havelock can issue the 5m or 20m remainder anytime

ThickAsThieves: sounds like they can

topace: we'll likely re-try the remainder of the second tranche in a few weeks

ThickAsThieves: at a new price or?

topace: once we get a couple other companies listed

topace: price TBD

nubbins`: should change the charts to show # of shares issued rather than price

nubbins`: to the moon!

mike_c: ok, so dividends.. they will be divided by 1.75 mm? the other 15mm get nothing right now?

ThickAsThieves: i agree the market cap stat could be better displayed

ThickAsThieves: i think just remove it from home page

ThickAsThieves: and have it on charts page and order page with better tag

mike_c: it says dividends will be divided by 100mm, but that doesn't make sense if no one owns 80mm of the units

topace: dividend goes to all 100m shares

ThickAsThieves: or show like 1750000/20000000/10000000 or whatever

mike_c: ok, you can't say the market cap is for 1.75m shares, but dividends are for 100m.

nubbins`: if i buy a previously unpurchased share a year from now, am i entitled to past dividends?

mike_c: and where the hell does 80% of the dividend go if nobody owns those units?

ThickAsThieves: nubbins be trollin

ThickAsThieves: it goes to operational

nubbins`: D;

mike_c: so to be clear: 15% of dividend to owners. 2% to shareholders. 83% to the company ledger.

topace: the panama fund owns 80m units, but since the ipo didnt sell out, it actually holds ~83.3m units still.

mike_c: i don't see how you can tell a potential shareholder "the market cap is based on 1.675m shares, but the dividend based on 100m"

ThickAsThieves: attack on 1000!

ThickAsThieves: its a misnomer

ThickAsThieves: its simply not the market cap

mike_c: yes. misnomer is a euphamism

ThickAsThieves: its the value of available shares

mike_c: it's wrong..

ThickAsThieves: 1000 lost :(

ThickAsThieves: sorry mp

ThickAsThieves: how long agao did i say 4 hours?

nubbins`: less than 4 hours ago

ThickAsThieves: 3.5hrs ago

ThickAsThieves: someone just retired

thestringpuller: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 986.03, Best ask: 988.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.97000, Last trade: 983.0, 24 hour volume: 35414.56194001, 24 hour low: 882.15001, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 974.31508

nubbins`: or went to space with their friends

nubbins`: ah, lel. interesting time to be alive

nubbins`: isn't it?

ThickAsThieves: yes

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.143 BTC [-]

mike_c: topace, i am a fan, not a troll. you should remove that # from the site.. TaT seems to agree.

mike_c: </rant>

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.13100005 BTC [-]

ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 935.67, Best ask: 945.0, Bid-ask spread: 9.33000, Last trade: 935.67, 24 hour volume: 38662.60385149, 24 hour low: 883.00002, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 972.80215

mike_c: prediction: tomorrow there will be 42 new articles about how volatile bitcoin is.

pankkake: we need a bitcoin spokeperson to stabilize the price

pankkake: our own bernanke

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1005 @ 0.00025074 = 0.252 BTC [+] {2}

pankkake: so we can know when to buy without ruining freedom

pankkake: http://btcwarn.com/ is usually a great service but these days it's useless, I get many mails and all are usually already outdated once they arrive

ozbot: BTCWarn.com -- Get Notified of BitCoin Price Changes

asciilifeform: can you say 'front running'? i knew you could!

ThickAsThieves: hmm, no AM divs yet today

ThickAsThieves: scam!

pankkake: AM seized by chinese gov

kakobrekla: ;;seen mircea_popescu

gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 2 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> lmao all this hating.

kakobrekla: bah

kakobrekla: ah hes back

ThickAsThieves: kako he just

kakobrekla: did he just joined??

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.35 = 1.4 BTC [-]

kakobrekla: i dont see joins and parts

pankkake: oh you ignore joins

kakobrekla: yea

pankkake: that's what you get for being silly

TomServo: "Bitcoin will stay above $1000 for the rest of 2013" The shortest bitbet ever?

ThickAsThieves: it actually got made?

pankkake: bitbet never loses an occasion to scam

mircea_popescu: TomServo wrong expiry on it. should be redone

ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 993.0, Best ask: 995.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 993.0, 24 hour volume: 41434.49020845, 24 hour low: 890.0, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 973.35555

ThickAsThieves: maybe wait til its 1000 again for more than 4 hours

mircea_popescu: nubbins`:

mircea_popescu: total noob question here, but are there any traditional assets that are traded simultaneously on, say, NYSE/LSE/TSE? << depositary receipts are used

mircea_popescu: so rthings like bp trade in europe and the us.

mircea_popescu: it's practically a pt system tho.

pankkake: eheh, btctctc used "depositary receipts" in its last days

BingoBoingo: I believe I fixed the specs for my BFL versus Active Miner submission using https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage-new-products/600-gh-bitcoin-mining-card.html and http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_product=23&controller=product

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.00194153 = 0.1087 BTC [-] {4}

pankkake: BingoBoingo: did you see my previous submission of the same bet?

pankkake: the desc is cut so I can't see what you did in case of none of them delivering

BingoBoingo: pankkake: Not really. How thoroughly did you try to spec it?

pankkake: BingoBoingo: http://pastebin.com/mdhGxhzP

pankkake: I excluded shareholders for VMC

pankkake: and specs are quite generous, it wast mostly about at least shipping something

pankkake: it was rejected because of last line

pankkake: "draws suck"

pankkake: interesting that you had the same idea

pankkake: I see that as a "Cripple Fight"

BingoBoingo: pankkake: Well, draws do suck. The solution is the bet has to fail as No, and bettors have to price accordingly for that.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00083754 = 6.2816 BTC [-] {2}

pankkake: but then you can't really have a live estimate of which company sucks more

pankkake: and if both doen't ship, no winners, but lot of lols

pankkake: perhaps lols aren't worth 1% fee

mike_c: soccer (er, futbol) lines resolve 3 ways. maybe 'draw' should be a betting option.

BingoBoingo: pankkake: Well if you truly believe it is a cripple fight, the solution is bet No and wait for March 1st

pankkake: I feel like BFL will ship first, though the lols provided would be payment enough

BingoBoingo: pankkake: Well you chose the same yes side I did. I'm not sure activeminer is even as much of a thing so I placed it as no with them both not delivering hoping it might get action at least as a BFL delivery bet.

mircea_popescu: mike_c soccer sucks.

mircea_popescu: (for that reason)

pankkake: well the order website states november delivery

pankkake: so logically, VMC should ship before BFL announcing december

mike_c: well, as long as all possibilites are reasonable, it doesn't have to suck. horse races are parimutuel and have 8-12 outcomes

pankkake: MP logic "it doesn't work on my system, so it sucks"

BingoBoingo: pankkake: Well the butthurt from the ActiveMining fans that their being delivered pays as no delivery at all should lead to some entertaining butthurt, and what is Bitcoin without Butt?

pankkake: exactly

mircea_popescu: pankkake hater.

mircea_popescu: mike_c we are looking into perhaps making multi bets, it's not too hard to do, but tbh the mindfuck may be too much for the userbase.

pankkake: I don't know if I could fix myself to be less of a hater. I regularly fail

pankkake: a good idea would probably to find out actual interesting bets that would need it

mircea_popescu: that too.

mircea_popescu: soccer still sucks, becauyse "draw" is fucking meaningless.

mircea_popescu: nevertheless, a horse race say, should have a win for each horse

mircea_popescu: just... not much horse racing in btc. since the demise of the satoshi demon gal.

mike_c: agree with the mindfuck aspect of the problem. reject/accept bet ratio could get way out of wack.

mircea_popescu: for one. for the other, i'd have a "but i meant to bet on x3, misclicked bet on x5, bitbet is a scam now" stuff

mircea_popescu: on top of all the current.

mike_c: yeah, but that just drives more traffic as far as i can tell.

mircea_popescu: so far at least.

mircea_popescu: still, you know. contrary to what the forum would have itself think, bitbet is designed to prevent as much of this as possible

pankkake: the bet address page restates the bet

mircea_popescu: which includes waiting fucking hours to close bets etc.

mircea_popescu: pankkake people never read restatements. because it's below them to do such humiliating thing.

pankkake: I always do it because I'm a careful paranoid person

mircea_popescu: makes you weird.

thestringpuller: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 985.0, Best ask: 986.9, Bid-ask spread: 1.90000, Last trade: 985.0, 24 hour volume: 42381.76664170, 24 hour low: 894.0, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 974.96278

mircea_popescu: o wow it retraced

mircea_popescu: thanks god i didn't have a bet with anyone or anything.

pankkake: http://bitbet.us/bet/625/btc-will-rise-above-1500-usd-before-february/#c1921

ThickAsThieves: i spared you

mircea_popescu: fucking bet went in with a closure date in nov 2014

ThickAsThieves: bitbet savings bank

mircea_popescu: and trust.

ThickAsThieves: indeed

mircea_popescu: trust is important.

ThickAsThieves: and forum trust points are even more important

dexX7: are there any cases that people reported scams to the feds and what happend then? pirateat40 excluded

ThickAsThieves: just stories afaik

mircea_popescu: dexX7 the only successful scam resolution that i know of,

dexX7: ty

ozbot: BitBet - BTC will rise above $1500 USD before February 2014

kakobrekla: dexX7 pirate beat his wifey and ended up in jail

mircea_popescu: is one case when a forum group organised and got avalon to deliver to them the items ordered by the scammer

dexX7: ah

mircea_popescu: (ian bakewell it was iirc)

dexX7: the guy with the socket

dexX7: yea

mircea_popescu: so you knopw, purely vigilante.

kakobrekla: i knew he was up to no good as soon as i saw HUGO shirt

ThickAsThieves: i didnt know that one

ThickAsThieves: neat

mircea_popescu: the unsuccessful case is, of course, the case of the birtcoinica people, who had their btc sent to mtgox,

mircea_popescu: which is pretty much keeping it.

mircea_popescu: well, what was left of their btc anyway, 15% or whatever it was.

kakobrekla: dont deal with hugo shit people

kakobrekla: shirt

kakobrekla: or and shit too.

mircea_popescu: what's a hugo shirt ?

kakobrekla: http://scammer-ianbakewell.com/assets/ianbakewell_sock.jpg

kakobrekla: hugo boss

mircea_popescu: uh.

mircea_popescu: that's just a tshirt

kakobrekla: the wrong kind of

pankkake: I wouldn't trust people with this shirt either

kakobrekla: pankkake has an eye.

pankkake: I don't trust people who dress in white too

pankkake: worst is white socks

nubbins`: he's actually wearing two hugo boss shirts

kakobrekla: we call people who dress like that "cefurji"

pankkake: two? that's like the multiple popped collar

mircea_popescu: pankkake white looks great on womenz.

mircea_popescu: *that aren't fat

ThickAsThieves: surely pankkake already also has women on his list

pankkake: I have a thing for women dressed in black

pankkake: but yes indeed ThickAsThieves :D

ThickAsThieves: of things not trusted

mircea_popescu: lol scammed.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00084209 = 2.021 BTC [+]

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.00350001 = 0.273 BTC [+] {2}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.39074997 = 3.9075 BTC [+] {4}

ThickAsThieves: AM div is reportedly 0.00199664

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39799996 BTC [+]

ThickAsThieves: some neat alt hip hop if anyone's interested, like modest mouse rap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U58euuM_hLU&feature=youtu.be

pankkake: the only hip hop I listen to is dälek, but this is nice

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 49 @ 0.00226 = 0.1107 BTC [-]

ThickAsThieves: listening to them now, not bad

pankkake: oh I thought you would know them already

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39799996 BTC [+]

kakobrekla: iirc there was some bug found in bitmessage which made the whole thing completley insecure

kakobrekla: was dat fixed?

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla iirc was not.

BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: I though that was CryptoCat, I haven't heard about anything like that with BitMessage yet. I've not used Bitmessage though because the people who use it seem way too derpy.

kakobrekla: ah hm possibly

pankkake: cryptocat was broken by design

pankkake: bitmessage had a flaw I forgot which

Apocalyptic: who is using BitMessage here by the way ?

pankkake: I tried to use it, but just leaving it running used too much power

BingoBoingo: Ah, found a writeup on a bitmessage vulnerability http://bitslog.wordpress.com/2012/11/30/bitmessage-completely-broken-crypto/

pankkake: http://www.coindesk.com/votebox-dropbox-datashell-storage/ it's a dropbox for bitcoiners. will their business model be stealing wallet.dats?

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 68 @ 0.0034326 = 0.2334 BTC [-] {2}

KRS1: i would

KRS1: shiet, its magic internet money nigga

kakobrekla: back to cleartext MSN then!

pankkake: not sure if teenager spelling is cleartext

kakobrekla: lol

kakobrekla: the thing is dead anyway

kakobrekla: merged with skype since ms has the skype keys anyway

pankkake: a part of my childhood, killed by the evil empire

kakobrekla: i used that thing but i was on irc way before

pankkake: hmm that too, but msn was mostly for normal people

pankkake: and well girls

kakobrekla: even when i didnt even have a computer at home

kakobrekla: i was in the library

nubbins`: i was i think 13 when i discovered irc

kakobrekla: on irc

nubbins`: maybe 14

kakobrekla: as long as quota allowed

mircea_popescu: girls were on irc...

mircea_popescu: boys used to play golden axe and deathtrack

mircea_popescu: and girls used to irc.

kakobrekla: the lib was a good place to pick up girls though

pankkake: yeah, actually some girls were on irc

kakobrekla: not the irc

pankkake: and cute ones too

mircea_popescu: well, at that age all girls are cute.

kakobrekla: i admint, i found the current one on irc.

kakobrekla: admit

kakobrekla: minnum

kakobrekla: mininum

kakobrekla: cant even spell the mis-spell

Sebastan: is the purpose of this chatroom to get informed about trades of securities that paid for being tracked here?

kakobrekla: and sex education

pankkake: I think exchanges close before they can implement assbot communication

nubbins`: Sebastan: i'm not sure anyone pays

kakobrekla: pankkake yet it only takes a minute.

Sebastan: so at the end its a chat loosely speaking about bitcoin securities?

pankkake: and personal insecurities

kakobrekla: you dont have to say it like you sound dissapointed

Sebastan: :)

pankkake: if you're looking for trades theres #bitcoin-assets-trades

lyspooner: but we do speak loosely

kakobrekla: best way to find out is to stay around and see, also check the log!

nubbins`: ^

Sebastan: ok...

kakobrekla: follow the links in the topic

kakobrekla: speaking of topic

nubbins`: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1034.1, Best ask: 1039.5, Bid-ask spread: 5.40000, Last trade: 1039.5, 24 hour volume: 37177.24309324, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 984.54527

Apocalyptic: kako is no longer a shill

mircea_popescu: Sebastan it's the smoking lounge the nyse wishes it had, basically.

mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic he got fired. his shilling sucked.

Apocalyptic: heh

kakobrekla: now i just fwd emails to mp

lyspooner: what is firstblockchain.com? do they have company polo shirts? stress balls?

nubbins`: i don't think it's called a stress ball if you sit on it

pankkake: if any of you tinfoil hats use openbsd, you can now donate to them with bitcoin

nubbins`: orly!

mircea_popescu: lyspooner guy was by earlier.

lyspooner: should i read the log or did you just make fun of him?

nubbins`: "OpenBSD: Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time!"

kakobrekla: "Never ever hacked. ~ A block of granit"

mircea_popescu: lyspooner he said nothing.

lyspooner: i can see that it's incorporated in the blockchain, but i can't see what it does

dub: "*BSD: just slam your dick in a door a few times then install debian"

nubbins`: hahaha

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.03210208 = 0.1926 BTC [-] {2}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 48 @ 0.03104832 = 1.4903 BTC [-] {5}

BingoBoingo: I too once had a stateless corporation, until I opened the box and its state was revealed to as dead. Or maybe it was a cat...

mircea_popescu: a catporation

lyspooner: catpooration

lyspooner: how about proof of existence... is that a nice thing?

lyspooner: like, the website, not the proof that one exists

lyspooner: or how about a more general questions for the group here: are there any bitcoin companies that use the blockchain in unique ways and produce revenue, other than provably fair casinos or notarial services?

mircea_popescu: provably fair gambling is so far the most notable practical use of the blockchain.

lyspooner: can't we extend provable fairness elsewhere and make money?

mircea_popescu: if you do i'll list you.

lyspooner: cool, i like your style

lyspooner: but i'm not nearly that clever

mircea_popescu: there MAY be some use of the blockchain to force distribution of inheritances according to the will of the deceased and without possibility of taxation or other interference

kakobrekla: so with the recent update in btc price, .bit tld seems plausible

kakobrekla: this was discussed before

kakobrekla: nothing happend

mircea_popescu: maybe using something like http://trilema.com/2013/the-perfect-escrow/ or maybe something else

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla isn't that what namecoin is all about ?

kakobrekla: yeah but who is going to use that

kakobrekla: :D

kakobrekla: you can sell sex.bit for millions allover again

mircea_popescu: it only costs like 1k btc to buy the tld iirc.

kakobrekla: yup

kakobrekla: or was it 10?

kakobrekla: well 1 or 10

mircea_popescu: lol. that may be a business idea, i recall we discussed it earlier this year

kakobrekla: yes it was discussed

mircea_popescu: back when btc was 100 or w/e

kakobrekla: it stuck in my mind a bit.

kakobrekla: see what i did there, pun

TomServo: Speaking of tlds, what was with the latest batch? .plumbing? really?

mircea_popescu: TomServo what seriously ? lmao

kakobrekla: sex.plumbing

kakobrekla: works

mircea_popescu: why do you keep wanting to sell sex ?

TomServo: could probably have some fun with them but... wtf

TomServo: justthe.tips

kakobrekla: its the famous domain

mircea_popescu: anal.plumbing would be a much better domain

kakobrekla: that got sold and resold etc

mircea_popescu: and stolen and drama.

kakobrekla: you catch my drift.

ThickAsThieves: snakesarefor.plumbing

mircea_popescu: personally i doubt a new tld is worth the money, but hey.

mircea_popescu: maybe you manage to sell 100k domains for .01 each or so

ThickAsThieves: yeah once you can have all of them, they are all worthless

ThickAsThieves: well, not worthless

ThickAsThieves: but yknow

Venat: bit4x, such money. much earn, believe its bitcoin. many currency, so fair. wow

mircea_popescu: Venat turn the english on

thestringpuller: http://i.imgur.com/4Iu2xfa.gif

ThickAsThieves: he's Google

mircea_popescu: pankkake Im thinking of selling

ThickAsThieves: tryibng to communicat ewith us

mircea_popescu: pankkake Im thinking of selling 10,000 ActM shares for 0.0019 and buying LC @ 0.0007 for 27,142 shares.

mircea_popescu: disregard the quotes. he really means it.

ThickAsThieves: scambitrage

mircea_popescu: scam-bit-rage.

ThickAsThieves: ltc won't stop

ThickAsThieves: .0327

ThickAsThieves: $31

ThickAsThieves: you can go on a cheap date for 1 LTC

lyspooner: i can't go on a cheap date for 1 BTC

kakobrekla: happy meal at mcdonalds?

mircea_popescu: ltc has no central bank. it shall suffar the fate of free markets. boom an' boost.

ThickAsThieves: maybe the cinema?

mircea_popescu: lyspooner you must be doing something wrong then

ThickAsThieves: or a bj?

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 305 @ 0.00187 = 0.5704 BTC [-] {3}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.38998569 = 2.7299 BTC [-] {4}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00377446 = 0.3774 BTC [+] {8}

mircea_popescu: ;;tslb

gribble: Time since last block: 8 minutes and 13 seconds

mircea_popescu: like 7 blocks past half hour

mircea_popescu: .d

ozbot: 609482679.88835 | Next Diff in 334 blocks | Estimated Change: 13.1735% in 2d 0h 9m 2s

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 422 @ 0.00186571 = 0.7873 BTC [-] {3}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.031 = 0.62 BTC [-] {2}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 466 @ 0.00183469 = 0.855 BTC [-] {3}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37520002 BTC [-]

Venat: wow, such difficulty

dub: used to be about US$100k for 1ld iirc

dub: needs vetted by some cadre of policy wonks tho

dub: no .nig for you mp

kakobrekla: lol

mircea_popescu: i'll probably buy a tesla before i buy domains. seems beyond retarded to me

dub: .nggr

mircea_popescu: (recall, i'm the guy that ran bitcoin's premier stock exchange as a subdir for years)

dub: whitehouse.nggr

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.0236 = 0.2596 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: sex.colored-person

dub: mpex.bbw

mircea_popescu: dub.dub

mircea_popescu: that's aesthetically appealing

mircea_popescu: you should get it and make yourself a biz card reading

mircea_popescu: dub.dub

dub: rollin.on.dub

pankkake: the u's aren't symetrical, it bothers me

kakobrekla: 22:30.55 ( mircea_popescu ) sex.colored-person

kakobrekla: ilold

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37521 BTC [+]

pankkake: the weirdest tld is .xxx. it's like having a .internet

dub: yeah

dub: .tube would probably be a winner

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37521001 BTC [+]

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37521 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2506 @ 0.00084082 = 2.1071 BTC [-]

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00009504 = 0.1901 BTC [+] {8}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0003 = 0.3 BTC [-]

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 0.21 = 0.84 BTC [+]

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 33 @ 0.14858958 = 4.9035 BTC [-] {9}

ThickAsThieves: another problem with telling people socially you dabble in bitcoin, seeing them all again on Thanksgiving

jborkl: I don't tell anyone at all

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-]

jborkl: except yous guys

ThickAsThieves: so if they know you dabbled when i was $100

ThickAsThieves: they of course will ask "Are you rich?"

ThickAsThieves: it's $1000 now!

mike_c: tell them you lost on jd

mike_c: !jd

assbot: Just-Dice stat: 8557 BTC profit, 50.8k BTC invested, 298.84 mio bets, 4.54 mio BTC wagered

ThickAsThieves: tell family you gambled away bitcoin riches?

pankkake: sadly ×10 of not much is not much

mike_c: they will stop seeing you as a resource.

ThickAsThieves: hmm

ThickAsThieves: cant tell the father in law such tho

mike_c: ah. touche.

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 38 @ 0.10745351 = 4.0832 BTC [-] {10}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 27.85312800 BTC to 13`950 shares, 199664 satoshi per share

mircea_popescu: hookers and blow ?

mike_c: then he'll be mad he didn't get any.

ThickAsThieves: strippers, he might understand :)

thestringpuller: anyone know anything about coinapult?

thestringpuller: how come no coinapult associates are ever in this channel?

mike_c: coinapult is by somebody famous.

mike_c: racking brain..

ThickAsThieves: evoorhees

mike_c: oh yeah :)

ThickAsThieves: mjr works there

ThickAsThieves: he's in here sometimes

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 6.35923722 BTC to 335`226 shares, 1897 satoshi per share

mircea_popescu: somehow that thing never got anywhere

ThickAsThieves: i'm not sur ethey gave up yet

ThickAsThieves: whaddaya know: http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/27/5152566/ge-3d-printing-day-4chans-moot-builds-webcam-spy-block

ThickAsThieves: for kako

pankkake: webcams are supposed to have a led when they're on

pankkake: but I think you can control it for some

kakobrekla: you can also not have a cam

kakobrekla: cause now its just more stuff i must have

pankkake: I have a cam, but it's filming my doorway

kakobrekla: less is better

pankkake: spy on that, nsa

kakobrekla: why else would i delete all my btc

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 5125 @ 0.00169455 = 8.6846 BTC [-] {22}

dub: isn't it hearn or somesuch scumbag

dub: oh hey, buffer

ThickAsThieves: is what hearn?

dub: coinapault

ThickAsThieves: oh

ThickAsThieves: hmm

dub: but I see its worse

ThickAsThieves: word

thestringpuller: i still use coinapult to send coins to n00bs

thestringpuller: since setting up a wallet is sooooooo hard

dub: good lukc buying a lappy without cam btw

kakobrekla: my x220 doesnt have one

dub: wat

kakobrekla: yep

dub: mine does

kakobrekla: u liek nsa

pankkake: they hid it from you kakobrekla

dub: <3 nsa

pankkake: you just don't know where it is

pankkake: pics on the internet show a com on x220

ThickAsThieves: two-way plastic

kakobrekla: i think it has to do with the wifi card dub

pankkake: oh, an option?

kakobrekla: i got the one which has some moar antennas up there

pankkake: and that removes the cam. good to know

dub: mine has wifi and 3G/LTE antenna up thurr

kakobrekla: which nic

dub: face it yours isi bootleg eastyurope version

kakobrekla: lol

dub: idk, its not here

kakobrekla: i had the option of cam and crappier wifi

dub: corporate t430s has one though

kakobrekla: but im not a camwhore and i need signal

dub: security tards and NSA watching me jerkit

kakobrekla: mine also has IPS

kakobrekla: :p

dub: that might be a diff

dub: idk if mine is ips, don't think so

mircea_popescu: you gotta has ips

mircea_popescu: tyo connect to the internet.

dub: mrsdub has baller dell IPS

dub: for fotoshopping selfies

dub: its pretty nice to look at

kakobrekla: as far as i can see its about 3x3 antenna

kakobrekla: that disallows the camwhoring

dub: instead it broadcasts RF imaging signal to get 3d radar of you jerking

kakobrekla: yeah im fine with rf imaging.

dub: they can't tell that you're using sandpaper instead of lube

kakobrekla: sandpaper is for pussies.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5166 @ 0.00084082 = 4.3437 BTC [-]

dub: https://twitter.com/JournalistsLike/status/405763467698638848/photo/1

ozbot: Twitter / JournalistsLike: Best firefighter name. Ever. ...

dub: mp should change name to McCoiny

kakobrekla: les means wood here

kakobrekla: extra cherry on top

dub: wow

mircea_popescu: mcoiny is kinda corny.

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02329899 = 0.2097 BTC [-]

sn00py: hey guys

ThickAsThieves: hello sn00py

mircea_popescu: hi

sn00py: i have a question

pankkake: state it, good sir

kakobrekla: how you sure he is good?

kakobrekla: might be evil.

ThickAsThieves: state it, soon-to-be-judged sir

kakobrekla: more apropriate

pankkake: indeed, anyone using webchat is evil

mircea_popescu: or a girl.

kakobrekla: NO GIRELS ON IRC

sn00py: im new to all bitcoin stuff and im thinking about investing in some type of coin is there a website that you can buy and sell or trade different type of coins?

mircea_popescu: girels lol.

mircea_popescu: sn00py listen, if you're new you should be reading not investing.

sn00py: i been reading just asking lol

kakobrekla: different types of coins? colored coins?

lyspooner: sn00py, don't invest in a coin, embrace a coin

mircea_popescu: there are coins you can get, most of which aren't worth it.

lyspooner: like, actually know it and love it and never want to sell it

mircea_popescu: there are securities you can buy, most of which niot worth it

mircea_popescu: etc

dub: speaking of jacking it, just noticed the 12 hours of peepeecoin mining I did is now worth 200btc

mircea_popescu: dub buy a car, crash it into another car, pay in bt

mircea_popescu: c

dub: who said alt coins where stoopid

mircea_popescu: you did...

mircea_popescu: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3538047&cid=43149645

ozbot: Bitcoin Blockchain Forked By Backward-Compatibility Issue - Slashdot

mircea_popescu: gotta love slashdot.

mircea_popescu: "I really wonder if my Bitcoins will be worth anything in a few years."

pankkake: ppcoin 15% more profitable to mine than btc. something doesn't sound right

kakobrekla: such things happen all the time pankkake it just does not last

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.3601 = 10.0828 BTC [-] {2}

dub: blame fontas

pankkake: I've seen it happen but not as much

sn00py: oh ok ill just keep researching lol

pankkake: in a few years we'll separate people who say my bitcoin from people who say my bitcoins

mircea_popescu: "That value will probably be the cost of the electricity to run whatever the last ASIC miner produced is, at least before general purpose GPUs become more powerful than ASICs."

mircea_popescu: incredibly insightful. you ppl should read slashdot more often

dub: dood

pankkake: it used to be better (yeah, get off my lawn)

dub: slash is hte asshole of the avg internet commenters asshole

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.361 = 0.722 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: dub at least it's not reddit.

pankkake: reddit tells you everyone's opinion is interesting

dub: the only reddit I read is r/spacedicks

pankkake: including yours

mircea_popescu: i thought reddit tells you what gifs someone made

mircea_popescu: "made" = assembled out of stolen bits they didn't understand.

pankkake: typical reddit submission is "my daughter made this" (obvious stolen content)

pankkake: I like http://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories

ThickAsThieves: here's a nice one from reddit

ThickAsThieves: After the April crash, I bet a friend $1,000.00 that Bitcoin would be worth $1,000.00 before December 31, 2013.

ThickAsThieves: rather than buy $1000 of bitcoin?!

lyspooner: perhaps the person was already suitably long bitcoin

pankkake: buy a bitcoin with it, give it to the friend

ThickAsThieves: "In 2011 I got back from iraq with more than 40k saved up from both my bonus and unspent pay. I went homeless after dumping everything I had into bittcoins, and today I am a millionaire."

pankkake: http://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoincirclejerk

kakobrekla: damn wences was right

kakobrekla: i would have lost my bet

ozbot: Bitcoin circlejerk

mircea_popescu: ok, bitbet update : we had a crash on the systems doing payments.

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3255 @ 0.00025952 = 0.8447 BTC [-] {15}

pankkake: scam

mircea_popescu: this is why some payments have been delayed. nothing is lost etcetc.

ThickAsThieves: lol pankkake

ThickAsThieves: good link

mircea_popescu: cpu burned. had it replaced. txn should be broadcasting within an hour or so.

ThickAsThieves: do you have mice in your servers?

pankkake: cpu burned? labcoin had better excuses

pankkake: like "pool isn't asic ready"

ThickAsThieves: I mumbled something about bitcoin to flirt with a checkout lady 4 years ago. She didn't trust me but they all invested $10,000. Today I went in to find they are all billionaires and I crowd surfed the workers around the store.

dub: http://www.communityrun.org/petitions/petition-to-the-global-nwo-government-to-increase-chemtrail-spraying

mircea_popescu: pankkake yes, it burned. with the fan still attached and spinning

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.35861774 = 1.7931 BTC [-] {4}

pankkake: you must have crappy power or something with all those issues

ThickAsThieves: needs moar solar

mircea_popescu: this was a payment computor.

mircea_popescu: it's on a diff continent.

mircea_popescu: can you have personally bad power on separate landmasses ?

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 487 @ 0.00029998 = 0.1461 BTC [-] {2}

ThickAsThieves: you cant personally have anything you dont personally have

pankkake: it's not impossible

mircea_popescu: i like to think it's just because i own/run so much equipment that statistically this is "normal"

ThickAsThieves: did they send pics?

ThickAsThieves: maybe they are scamming you

ozbot: Petition to the Global NWO Government to Increase Chemtrail Spraying | CommunityRun

mircea_popescu: what of, an old cpu ?

ThickAsThieves: a crispy CPU

dub: better comments within

mircea_popescu: dub community run pancakes!!

pankkake: reports from hosters always felt fishy to me. like "we replaced the motherboard" but the shit is still crashing

mircea_popescu: not a hoster tho.

TomServo: Was that the last non-virtualized webserver?

mircea_popescu: it's not even a webserver.

mircea_popescu: my my assets is becoming popular these days. hello Mr_Steve

Mr_Steve: hello

Mr_Steve: I was wondering if a bet has paid out yet

ThickAsThieves: how many are we atm?

Mr_Steve: http://bitbet.us/bet/353/bitcoin-price-to-rise-above-1000/

ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin price to rise above $1000

ThickAsThieves: lol bitbet is the best referrer for this chan

mircea_popescu: Mr_Steve i just made an update re that. it's not, should be ~1 hr

Mr_Steve: Answered my own question, thank you lol

Mr_Steve: before i even asked it too!

mircea_popescu: hello dimitriyremerov

mircea_popescu: "A cryptographic currency system needs to be secure regardless of how it is implemented"

mircea_popescu: dude this is beyond great

thestringpuller: ?

thestringpuller: what are you reading?

mircea_popescu: i want slashdot to run the internet nao pls.

mircea_popescu: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3538047&cid=43148717

ozbot: Bitcoin Blockchain Forked By Backward-Compatibility Issue - Slashdot

deadweas1l: LOL

deadweas1l: good ol /.

dimitriyremerov: mircea_popescu: hello, but for new I prefer just to read, because I'm new and I want more knowledge before I consider myself as ready for talking.

ThickAsThieves: i have a new cryptographic implementation: send me all your bitcoins

mircea_popescu: spoken like a wise man.

mircea_popescu: log.bitcoin-assets.com if you get done with the live log.

dimitriyremerov: thanks

lewicki: tat, think the neo pr will be out tonight?

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 6689 @ 0.00147996 = 9.8995 BTC [-] {13}

ThickAsThieves: unlikely, it's midnight in Cyprus

lewicki: kk

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 294 @ 0.0034597 = 1.0172 BTC [-] {15}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1069 @ 0.00341585 = 3.6515 BTC [-] {4}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 50 @ 0.01812296 = 0.9061 BTC [-] {12}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 254 @ 0.003411 = 0.8664 BTC [-] {3}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.10142857 = 1.42 BTC [-] {3}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 194 @ 0.003411 = 0.6617 BTC [-] {2}

thestringpuller: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rjluc/after_explaining_bitcoin_and_how_i_didnt_buy/ - gold

thestringpuller: the first comment that is

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 44 @ 0.01150001 = 0.506 BTC [-] {3}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 2078 @ 0.00006162 = 0.128 BTC [-] {10}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1006 @ 0.00022002 = 0.2213 BTC [-] {4}

Bugpowder: YAWN

Bugpowder: Another day another $150 gain

Diablo-D3: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1080.01001, Best ask: 1094.794, Bid-ask spread: 14.78399, Last trade: 1080.01001, 24 hour volume: 37060.78677051, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1094.794, 24 hour vwap: 999.4886

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.36 BTC [+]

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.003411 = 0.1023 BTC [-] {3}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3529 BTC [-]

thestringpuller: Bugpowder: what's the action? WHAT'S THE HUSTLE?!?

Bugpowder: Lock coins in safe deposit box. Chill for 5 years. Avoid Fontas.

Bugpowder: nobody is hanging out :(

Bugpowder: so bored

Bugpowder: on plane to LAX

Bugpowder: forgot headphones

truffles: kinda screwed now eh

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.353 BTC [+]

Bugpowder: time to get MOAR vodka

Bugpowder: We need streaming video on planes

truffles: :)

Bugpowder: Although I snuck a peek a gogoinflights actual bandwidth costs… 11c / MB

nubbins`: dont get too drunk

dub: don't fap to HD pr0ns

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.34953884 = 3.4954 BTC [-] {9}

dub: blowjobs save lives

dub: http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=21034983

ozbot: Tongue Pierce Lets the Paralyzed Drive Wheelchairs - ABC News

dub: or muffdiving or whatever teh primary driver for tongue piercing was

Bugpowder: My homie just had dinner with Elon… Gotta pitch him on accepting bitcoin.

dub: who?

dub: google yeilds WoW char rankings

nubbins`: i think the primary driver was "leel look at me"

Bugpowder: wha?

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.34254 = 1.0276 BTC [-] {2}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34241 BTC [-]

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34240501 = 0.6848 BTC [-] {2}

dub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtlxIcN_tAM

ozbot: Thingstarter: iNotRacist - YouTube

ThickAsThieves: lol ltc rallying more

ThickAsThieves: $37.62

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.34215679 = 9.5804 BTC [-] {3}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.34 = 1.36 BTC [-]

TomServo: the hell you say

TomServo: ha, and still going!

Bugpowder: I am a litecoin hater because I sold 5000 3 months ago.

Bugpowder: doh!

ThickAsThieves: you'd hate me for how many we held

Bugpowder: Also sold a shitload of namecoins

Bugpowder: I've decided that trading coins is not worth it though

ThickAsThieves: cuz j-d is better?

Bugpowder: should just build a real business on bitcoin and get actually rich

dexX7: holding litecoin over the last weeks would have cost you probably a lot of nerves anyway

Bugpowder: owning JD is definitely better

ThickAsThieves: dexx7, we came close to selling several times

Bugpowder: Look! A money printer

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.3401 = 3.0609 BTC [+]

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.1001 = 0.3003 BTC [-]

ThickAsThieves: partner talked me out of it at one point

ThickAsThieves: then i turned into a buyer

dexX7: hehe

dexX7: nice

ThickAsThieves: .04btc

dexX7: almost ath

dexX7: if you are interested in ltc/eur/usd, you may take a look at kraken, it's usually higher than btc-e

ThickAsThieves: thx

ThickAsThieves: kraken has fancy AJAX

ThickAsThieves: or such

dexX7: yea, i think it's nice, but i never used it

thestringpuller: Bugpowder Bugpowder Bugpowder !

thestringpuller: (does that still work)

Bugpowder: yes

Bugpowder: what ever happened to smickles

thestringpuller: ;;;seen smickles

gribble: Error: ";seen" is not a valid command.

thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles

gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 2 hours, 55 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <smickles> wtf bet on the price rising rather than buying more or buying an option (or similar)

thestringpuller: I think he died

thestringpuller: jk

thestringpuller: he got 3 kids

thestringpuller: stay at home dad

ThickAsThieves: he was only around for like 3 weeks this year

thestringpuller: aint no one got time for irc when you got 3 kids

ThickAsThieves: quite legendary to have people still asking where he is

Bugpowder: yeah, but… stay at home dad is like the perfect job for the bitcoin enthusiast

ThickAsThieves: rite

thestringpuller: not when you got 3 kids

thestringpuller: and diapers to change

thestringpuller: you must not have any kids Bugpowder

kakobrekla: get a maid to do that

kakobrekla: and fuck her while she is at it

kakobrekla: no?

Bugpowder: I have 1.5 kids

thestringpuller: wait it that mircea_popescu ?

Bugpowder: we have hired help

thestringpuller: i'm pretty sure mircea_popescu just spoke through kakobrekla

thestringpuller: 1.5 kids? One kid is a step kid?

Bugpowder: -4 months old

thestringpuller: OH

thestringpuller: heh

thestringpuller: kid on the way

thestringpuller: and you're sitting here betting away their college fund on JD

thestringpuller: !jd

assbot: Just-Dice stat: 8547 BTC profit, 50.8k BTC invested, 299.37 mio bets, 4.54 mio BTC wagered

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8876 @ 0.00007787 = 0.6912 BTC [-] {9}

Bugpowder: LTC CRASH

kakobrekla: are there any realtime charts of this thing

Bugpowder: bitcoinwisdom yo

Bugpowder: they have realtime charts of EVERYTHING

Bugpowder: even stuff they don't link to they have, like PPCBTC on BTCE

kakobrekla: ok

thestringpuller: is bitcoinity not the realtime goto anymore?

Bugpowder: nahhh

Bugpowder: never was

Bugpowder: bitcoinwisdom is by far the best

Bugpowder: feed is always fast

thestringpuller: oh shit

thestringpuller: this thing is siiiick

thestringpuller: how did I never know about this?

Bugpowder: for gox walls, http://trading.i286.org

Bugpowder: cause U ain't da Bug

thestringpuller: but seriously .1 for 1 year?

thestringpuller: .1 btc*

Bugpowder: huh?

Bugpowder: its free

kakobrekla: yeah i got the i286 guy on irc

kakobrekla: cool stuff that

thestringpuller: for premium (no ads)

dub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAwLYJYsa0A

Mr_Steve: anyone receive their payout from this bet yet: http://bitbet.us/bet/353/bitcoin-price-to-rise-above-1000/

Bugpowder: OH I WANTED TO BET 100BTC ON THAT LET ME SEND IT IN REIGHT NOW

thestringpuller: Bugpowder i bet you're the guy behind the superbowl coin toss bet

Bugpowder: hehe

Bugpowder: that is a good strategy

Bugpowder: but I am not

Bugpowder: I wouldn't tie up that many coins like that

thestringpuller: When da fuq are the arbritageurs going to equalize the market?

Bugpowder: Its hard moving money dude

Bugpowder: I'm shocked at the btcchina spread reversal

kakobrekla: Mr_Steve give it some time, its not automatic

Bugpowder: it it were easy to move fiat, we wouldn't need bitcoin.

Mr_Steve: oh ok, i thought it was...

thestringpuller: yea but isn't that why you have brokers in all the countries

thestringpuller: so you can run arbritrage without physically moving money?

thestringpuller: before mtgox fucked up their relationship with Dwolla, I used to run arbritrage through dwolla to various exchanges...

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 159 @ 0.30649671 = 48.733 BTC [-] {31}

Bugpowder: so you were moving fiat via dwolla.

Bugpowder: If fiat was as easy to move as bitcoin, then this would work. But if fiat were as easy to move as bitcoin, this spread would not exist. In fact, if fiat were as easy to move as bitcoin, bitcoin would not exist.

Bugpowder: You need to think carefully about tax liabilities, anti-money laundering compliance, counterparty risk and relationship building with exchange owners and banks in multiple countries.

Bugpowder: It's not a game for the modestly capitalized, the under-lawyered, or the dilettante. Since nearly everyone in bitcoin falls into one of those categories, the spreads remain.

thestringpuller: they always seem to close though :P

thestringpuller: eventuaaally

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 558 @ 0.00341163 = 1.9037 BTC [-] {5}

Bugpowder: that is probably due to market sentiment, which like all memes, is propagated by language and pictures

Bugpowder: This site is pretty good for visualizing the arb spread. http://www.coinorama.net

nubbins`: you guys know any true ballers who collect rare coins?

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00330101 = 0.3301 BTC [-] {2}

Bugpowder: define try balla

Bugpowder: true baller

Bugpowder: 3 more hours on this fucking plane

Bugpowder: Freaking monster wall at 1000 on stamp

Bugpowder: jesus

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 250 @ 0.003301 = 0.8253 BTC [-] {4}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00122001 = 0.122 BTC [-] {3}

kakobrekla: flying on 10k feet , drinking whiskey, smoking a cigar, browsing porn

kakobrekla: LIFE SUCKS!

Bugpowder: 36k feet

Bugpowder: drinking vodka

kakobrekla: whatever we use meters here

nubbins`: Bugpowder: like, true baller

Bugpowder: and I gota pee

nubbins`: people who aren't afraid to spend double-digit amounts of coin

kakobrekla: lolwat double digit

Bugpowder: Like $400,000 a year working Wall Street stiff flying first class and being comfortable baller?

nubbins`: yeah

nubbins`: that kinda baller

Bugpowder: Or liquid? Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars?

copumpkin: :O

nubbins`: i got a casascius coin, mintage of only 45

nubbins`: asking 10 btc

Bugpowder: I think the former is not a baller

nubbins`: that kinda baller

Bugpowder: the latter is a bller

Bugpowder: baller

Bugpowder: LIke the first one is more like, stressed out about his mortgage payment baller

Bugpowder: on his 3 bedroom co-op

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 8 @ 0.050375 = 0.403 BTC [-] {2}

nubbins`: nod

nubbins`: probs still wastes a lotta money tho

nubbins`: especially when a rare opportunity presents itself

Bugpowder: Where the later is like, Check out these doubloons I plundered from a spanish shipwreck

copumpkin: Bugpowder: http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/24092-i-make-1mmyr-and-i-feel-like-im-middle-class

Bugpowder: which coin?

nubbins`: 2013 0.5 silver, series 2 holo

nubbins`: lowest mintage of any sub-500 btc coin

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 20 @ 0.02125 = 0.425 BTC [-] {3}

kakobrekla: just give those aways

kakobrekla: brass, guaranteed.

kakobrekla: who gives a shit

nubbins`: comes with a pgp-signed chain of custody too, natch

nubbins`: no buying coins from alibaba

Bugpowder: lol

Bugpowder: I discovered I have a few of the series 1 errors

Bugpowder: whee

nubbins`: yeah, i've got one of those too

Bugpowder: got 1.5 rolls of the 2013s

Bugpowder: and a 2011 25 piece

nubbins`: almost bought a 25, wish i had

Bugpowder: Goat has quite the collection tho

Bugpowder: jesus

nubbins`: nod

nubbins`: goat has 12 of these rare ones that i'm selling

nubbins`: i had 12, now only 6

Bugpowder: he's got an unopened 1000BTC gold

nubbins`: not anymore

nubbins`: he sold it

Bugpowder: oh?

Bugpowder: how much?

nubbins`: for $1mn

truffles: i feel like duecescracked is showing off

nubbins`: in gold and cash

nubbins`: buyer already has realized a profit

Bugpowder: When people talk about how bitcoin is fucked up because early adopters get rich, I think of Goat, and I nod my head yes.

nubbins`: haha

nubbins`: nah, he spends lots

nubbins`: keeps the btc circulating

truffles: where is goat?

truffles: i like his energy :D

nubbins`: right now or in general?

nubbins`: ah

nubbins`: ;;seen chaang-noi

gribble: chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 0 days, 7 hours, 14 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <chaang-noi> 420, so who is lighting up in celibration? :)

nubbins`: ;;seen chaangnoi

gribble: chaangnoi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 5 days, 20 hours, 27 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <ChaangNoi> i was not even here lol

truffles: he must be blazing it up at 1k then lol

nubbins`: ^ heh i remember 420

nubbins`: vaguely

Bugpowder: LTC continuing its crash

nubbins`: anyway, i know eventually i'll sell these coins, but the market is so thin

Bugpowder: I'm just putting my stack of coins in a safe deposit box. Thus I will always have 110BTC that is such a pain in the ass to sell I won't do it.

Bugpowder: nice little insurance policy.

nubbins`: i keep mine in a SDB

Bugpowder: yup… Its fun going back there too

nubbins`: yep

Bugpowder: 100k in da box

nubbins`: makes you feel like the baller we talked about earlier

truffles: nubbins` u said i was baller!

truffles: damit which is it

nubbins`: you're only baller if you step up and buy

truffles: but but

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00359989 = 0.1188 BTC [+] {4}

dub: i got big balls but I aint no baller

truffles: balls as in penus?

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00330017 = 0.1518 BTC [-] {4}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.0031619 = 0.1328 BTC [-] {3}

dub: heh PENUS

dub: dat crazy as bitch

truffles: look at u helping out steretypes

truffles: do u listen to rap btw?

ozbot: Penis Power - Alexyss K. Tylor - YouTube

dub: PENUS power

truffles: here here here lol

truffles: predator mode

dub: dis man wont even buy you some shrimp

dub: but he give you a side of penus

truffles: lmao

truffles: this is rly good

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 431 @ 0.000261 = 0.1125 BTC [+]

truffles: who does it belong to

thestringpuller: ;;ticker

gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1067.26001, Best ask: 1079.0, Bid-ask spread: 11.73999, Last trade: 1079.0, 24 hour volume: 35816.43317421, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1094.794, 24 hour vwap: 1005.81613

truffles: gotta stay prayed up

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33489999 BTC [+]

truffles: so much gold in this omg

truffles: "i am definitely gonna be on the watch out" this is the time when i said "trust me, humpydumpy, no one's gonna try to put you together again"

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3349 BTC [+]

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.335 BTC [+]

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2953 @ 0.0013 = 3.8389 BTC [-] {6}

bgupta: betting there are gonna be some interesting thanksgiving dinner family discussions tomorrow.

Bugpowder: yup

Bugpowder: My Brother : WHY DID I SELL MY 25 BTC COIN

Bugpowder: Dude: why did you sell that, it was a gift

nubbins`: heh

Bugpowder: oh wait we already had this discussion

deadweasel: the gift is the lesson.

Bugpowder: updated, Him: Why did I sell my last 9 bitcoins to you for $100 each

Bugpowder: me: it was market rate at the time.

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 511 @ 0.00020009 = 0.1022 BTC [-] {4}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1081 @ 0.00018205 = 0.1968 BTC [-] {4}

thestringpuller: this time last year I suppose it was at what 11 dollars?

thestringpuller: 10 dollars?

dub: http://www.change.org/petitions/stop-cooking-live-animals

thestringpuller: I remember during Christmas it was just breaching 12 again after the pirateat40 debacle

thestringpuller: ;;seen pirateat40

gribble: pirateat40 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 weeks, 1 day, 5 hours, 53 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <pirateat40> lame

thestringpuller: haha that was me

dub: protop that commenter at teh top: they do cook and eat children you idiot

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC [+]

truffles: that poor dog :(

kakobrekla: just having a bath

truffles: where is its fur then

dub: you don't shave before a bath?

truffles: during not before

truffles: depends

dub: its not like norway or wherever you're from has a great record on animal rights

truffles: u shave ur penus before the baths?`

truffles: 0.0

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5629 @ 0.00029686 = 1.671 BTC [+] {6}

dub: its interesting though, with the stuff I kill and eat its generally accepted that stress from a slow death makes them taste worse so we kill them quick

truffles: u self kill ur meats?

kakobrekla: yeah, dub just leaves the gun there over night and the deer commit self kill there

truffles: i mean he does the killing rather than store bought

dub: and next to the fact that tigers are going to get exitinct because china thinks eating their penus cures cancer, a few dogs and kids in the pot is nothing

ThickAsThieves: hey free bet idea

ThickAsThieves: Mt Gox will list LTC

kakobrekla: since when are you such treehugger dub

BingoBoingo: Reminds me I'll have to shave the turkey we've been keeping for tomorrow before I bring it to thanksgiving

kakobrekla: go do it ThickAsThieves

ThickAsThieves: ok

truffles: i gotta brine my tiny turkey too

dub: http://i.imgur.com/YjlY6Zt.jpg

dub: I am chief -assets treehugger

dub: I don't even deny global warming ffs

kakobrekla: horrible.

truffles: treehugger doubtful

kakobrekla: tigerhugger?

truffles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoAcNdeEf_Y

ozbot: The Last Lions (2011) - Official Trailer [HD] - YouTube

s3gfault: ICBIT.se is down..... was MPEX right? is ICBIT a bucket shop>?? did i lose my 600 BTC on deposit??????????

s3gfault: 0fm0zmg0zm im panicking

kakobrekla: o lol that guy again

kakobrekla: and i was just about to leave.

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 4069 @ 0.0003 = 1.2207 BTC [-]

BingoBoingo: s3gfault: Maybe, I'm pretty sure your loss would be me winning money on a bet somewhere...

s3gfault: fuck. that sucks. losing $600,000 like that... oh well.

s3gfault: at least i have 500 more BTC

truffles: 0.0

truffles: howd u lose it?

s3gfault: ICBIT.se is down. maybe they ran away with the coins

ThickAsThieves: i made the gox bet

ThickAsThieves: set closing for April 1

BingoBoingo: dub: Protip -> Make sure the oil pot and burner are adequately anchored to the ground before trying to lower the turkey into it. And Angry 30 pound turkey can spill a lot of peanut oil

bgupta: Bet closes and resolves april 1?

ThickAsThieves: closes 7 days prior

bgupta: meh