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KRS1: what do you think?
KRS1: anything come to mind?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 170 @ 0.0031 = 0.527 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 79 @ 0.0031059 = 0.2454 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 66 @ 0.00203898 = 0.1346 BTC [-] {4}
javanomad: javanomad - formerly "firstblockchain" - with apologies again - sends thanks.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 164 @ 0.00320458 = 0.5256 BTC [+] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 36 @ 0.30217288 = 10.8782 BTC [-] {13}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7511 @ 0.00079476 = 5.9694 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 4469 @ 0.0001174 = 0.5247 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00309222 = 1.5461 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 53 @ 0.30017072 = 15.909 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 490 @ 0.00039 = 0.1911 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 31 @ 0.15834833 = 4.9088 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 42 @ 0.00429 = 0.1802 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 510 @ 0.00039 = 0.1989 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2198 @ 0.0004 = 0.8792 BTC [+]
jurov`: ;;seen topace
gribble: topace was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 15 hours, 20 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <topace> the panama fund owns 80m units, but since the ipo didnt sell out, it actually holds ~83.3m units still.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2281 @ 0.00011183 = 0.2551 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 5531 @ 0.00012 = 0.6637 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: thats nefarios thing isnt it
KRS1: ya
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.0314025 = 0.2512 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.030835 = 0.185 BTC [-] {2}
KRSgotchawallet: theres another KRS registered so I'm gonna use this nick
KRS|gotyawallet: ;;seen vexual
gribble: vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <Vexual> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEEWE7gcPw0
KRS|gotyawallet: that nigga trippin..
KRS|gotyawallet: wtf is nobody on? are you all in the US? am I the only one who stays up 22 hrs a day?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30001 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: im on
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2921 BTC [-]
KRS|gotyawallet: where are u at
KRS|gotyawallet: I'm EST -5
KRS|gotyawallet: sup bitesak
kakobrekla: bash flushed
kakobrekla: KRS|gotyawallet gmt+1 or something
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.029002 = 0.145 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31724334 = 0.6345 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.31725845 = 2.5381 BTC [+] {2}
KRS|gotyawallet: I'm out..See ya kakobrekla!
kakobrekla: good luck
dexX7: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.861659 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00172675498839 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 292 @ 0.00202999 = 0.5928 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.31916666 = 0.9575 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.3194 = 1.2776 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.32799992 = 2.296 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.32880999 = 1.3152 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1114.01002, Best ask: 1115.98988, Bid-ask spread: 1.97986, Last trade: 1115.98988, 24 hour volume: 31755.77875866, 24 hour low: 1063.0, 24 hour high: 1230.0, 24 hour vwap: 1155.68563
bitesak: I ran through the history of http://btcoracle.com to determine the net cumulative effect and see how they are doing. Running since April 2013 they seem down 18.63 BTC overall with a total revenue of 1028
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00318529 = 0.6371 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 189 @ 0.00319945 = 0.6047 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 849 @ 0.003225 = 2.738 BTC [+] {15}
bitesak: nothing comparable to mpex..
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 454 @ 0.00327447 = 1.4866 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 375 @ 0.00331723 = 1.244 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 588 @ 0.00335239 = 1.9712 BTC [+] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32880999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 540 @ 0.00342068 = 1.8472 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 685 @ 0.00360211 = 2.4674 BTC [+] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32880999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 171 @ 0.00369937 = 0.6326 BTC [+] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32880999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 313 @ 0.00388141 = 1.2149 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 267 @ 0.00403543 = 1.0775 BTC [+] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 306 @ 0.00428295 = 1.3106 BTC [+] {10}
ozbot: S.MG, November 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: bitesak i never heard of it before.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 245 @ 0.00435653 = 1.0673 BTC [+] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.31960332 = 0.9588 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 199 @ 0.00479453 = 0.9541 BTC [+] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.32880999 = 0.9864 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 770 @ 0.00498774 = 3.8406 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.32882 = 0.6576 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: in other news : the ~8.5k btc minigame collected is still largely untouched, we can now afford to make the best game ever made.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 422 @ 0.00503372 = 2.1242 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: diablo 3 cost ~65 million if memory serves. it's true that it sucked, but then again we're no blizzard.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 135 @ 0.00508898 = 0.687 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32882999 BTC [+]
pankkake: what would happen if you end up with much more capital than you actually need? (in general, not S.MG)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.125 = 0.375 BTC [+]
bitesak: you rock MP, the services you provide and your articles are simply and elegantly the bitcoin standard
mircea_popescu: pankkake distribute
pankkake: as dividends?
mircea_popescu: this is what you always do witjh capital you can't effectualy deploy, you distribute it to shareholders
mircea_popescu: bitesak /me bows
pankkake: what about share buybacks?
mircea_popescu: in practice it makes no difference anwyay, whether you actually pay it out or just keep it in the bank, because in the latter case the share just trades as a proxy of your cash (see apple)
mircea_popescu: just as long as you don't stupidly spend it is all good.
mircea_popescu: maybe share buybacks too, yes.
pankkake: well the cash could be used for other things instead of doing nothing
mircea_popescu: tho in general the thing is with share buybacks that they tend to increase the price. seeing how btc is btc, you generally don'y want to increase share price, lest you make them unaffordable per item
mircea_popescu: pankkake all bitcoin is technically "doing nothing".
pankkake: I was just wondering about what the best thing to do was between dividends or buybacks, like avoiding stupid increases in share prices
mircea_popescu: let's look into this. consider a company has 50 btc in the bank and 100 shares. in case a, it distrivbutes 50 btc. now shareholders have 0.5 btc per share.
mircea_popescu: in case b, it just safes the 50 btc. now any shareholder wanting btc can sell his share for 0.5, which is exactly the sdame result.
mircea_popescu: well, dividends have the inherent unfairness of post-ex date. (ie, they only reward people hiolding the shares NOW, as opposed to "having hold the shares")
mircea_popescu: buybacks have the disadvantage they mess with the price.
dexX7: <mircea_popescu> diablo 3 cost ~65 million if memory serves. ... < i don't get the reference, 8.5k btc are only 1/8 of that?
mircea_popescu: dexX7 today.
pankkake: 1) for now 2) 1/8 of diablo's kinda huge already!!
mircea_popescu: six months ago they were 1/80 of that.
mircea_popescu: and yes, i don't think it ever happened in the history of computer gaming that a new company with new management working on an indie game ever had > 10% of the most expensive largest corp's budget.
pankkake: related I tend to think "too much money" is a common reason of project failures
mircea_popescu: think if some guy working in his garage had as much resources as 1/10 boeing, to make his new plane.
mircea_popescu: this is the sort of unprecedented power Bitcoin gives us.
mircea_popescu: ideally we will use it to permanently and deeply change the world,
mircea_popescu: rather than perpetually dick around with labcoins and bitcoin gems.
pankkake: (in the case of SMG, we can see it isn't being spent, so all is good)
mircea_popescu: pankkake too much money is worse poison than too little for new projects, that's damned sure.
mircea_popescu: luckily this one has me for chief asshole (CAO).
dexX7: haha fine. i thought you wanted to say something like "look, we have more funds than d3 consumed" and simply missed a zero or so ;)
dexX7: no doubt that it's still a lot
kakobrekla: thats why its better etf doesnt pay divs
mircea_popescu: why, cause people just spend it ? :D
kakobrekla: on stupid shit
mircea_popescu: maybe. or maybe they buy more.
mircea_popescu: you never know what people d o.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to close up the dividend/buyback discussion : the difference is really slight in an efficient market. the only way either is "unfair" is if the market is inefficient, and misprices things.
mircea_popescu: the judgement call is mostly "which of these two is the market most likely to misprice to a larger extent".
mircea_popescu: then honest operators do the one least likely to be mispriced, and dishonest operators (or US people) do the other.
kakobrekla: US people only?
mircea_popescu: just bein' a bitch.
kakobrekla: who did you have in mind specifically?
kakobrekla: xbond?
mircea_popescu: pretty much any company listed on the nyse
mircea_popescu: no no, i meant fiat corps.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin people have no nationality
mircea_popescu: they're bitcoin nationals.
kakobrekla: yeah but us bitcoin nationality is less valuable than eu bitcoin nationality
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> dexX7 today.
kakobrekla: can you elaborate on nyse mispricing further?
mircea_popescu: let me hide behind a buffett quote, one second.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.004 = 0.192 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: about there, but meanwhile found this one you might like :
mircea_popescu: We have found over time that the undistributed earnings of
mircea_popescu: our investees, in aggregate, have been as fully as beneficial to
mircea_popescu: Berkshire asif they had been distributed to us (and therefore had
mircea_popescu: been included in the earnings we officially report). This pleasant
mircea_popescu: result has occurred because most of our investees are engaged in
mircea_popescu: truly outstanding businesses that can often employ incremental
mircea_popescu: capital to great advantage, either by putting it to work in their busi-
mircea_popescu: nesses or by repurchasing their shares. Obviously, every capital
mircea_popescu: decision that our investees have made has not benefitted us as
mircea_popescu: shareholders, but overall we have garnered far more than a dollar
mircea_popescu: of value for each dollar they have retained. We consequently re-
mircea_popescu: gard look-through earnings as realistically portraying our yearly
mircea_popescu: gain from operations.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.0005 = 0.25 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: and here it is :
mircea_popescu: As long as investors-including supposedly sophisticated institutions-place fancy valuations on reported "earnings" that march steadily upward, you can be sure that some managers and promoters will exploit GAAP to produce such numbers, no matter what the truth may be. Over the years, Charlie and I have observed many accounting-based frauds of staggering size. Few of the perpetrators have been punished; many have not eve
mircea_popescu: n been censured. It has been far safer to steal large sums with a pen than small sums with a gun.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32882998 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol forum down ?
pankkake: for a while now
mircea_popescu: mpoe-pr is "can i has day off, forum down"
mircea_popescu: im like omgwtfbbq
mircea_popescu: where will we get lulz~!
pankkake: no easy procrastination today :(
pankkake: I wanted to use a French paypal alternative to accept small donations without needing SEPA wires, but it turns out they made it even worse
pankkake: and I feel like they screen each transaction manually
mircea_popescu: just use bitcoin.
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, forum is not down
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic ?
Apocalyptic: just thermos decided to switch to cloudflare and the new DNS entries don't redirect correctly
pankkake: that was suggested :) but we hold euros, and doubt everyone would be ok with having bitcoins
pankkake: so I'm trying to register with bitpay again
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic what's the ip do you happen to know ?
Apocalyptic: i still have the old IP and it's up
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, 109.201.133.195
pankkake: fuck, another bitcoin website using NSAFlare?
Apocalyptic: be sure to set the host for that though
mircea_popescu: i vaguelly recal it was 52.something
Apocalyptic: pankkake, yeah sucks
mircea_popescu: not like anyone uses it for any serious purpose
mircea_popescu: let nsa have all tghe webpages it wants
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: omgwtfbbq
mircea_popescu: i like it how nobody has a clue what that stands for anymore.
mircea_popescu: great internet and your 2 year memory.
nubbins`: big blaq qoq
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32599998 BTC [-]
truffles: <pankkake> fuck, another bitcoin website using NSAFlare?>>> what does this mean?
jurov`: truffles: you have to surrender ssl cert to cloudflare so that it works effectively
pankkake: basically it's MITM
truffles: layman's terms?
nubbins`: MITMFlare
mircea_popescu: wow truffles still around ? that's persistence.
pankkake: man in the middle, they can inspect/alter the content at will
nubbins`: inorite
truffles: haters
truffles: thanks pankkake
truffles: and jurov`
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3259999 BTC [-]
Apocalyptic: truffles, how are you doing ?
truffles: great today thanks
truffles: urself?
mircea_popescu: did he say anything offensively stupid recently or am i taking him off ignore ?
pankkake: ignore on irc doesn't work well. you end up reading confusing stuff sometimes
nubbins`: i don't think there's a rush
mircea_popescu: a well, here goes.
truffles: pankkake exactly
mircea_popescu: pankkake yeah but then you bitch at the other people.
truffles: the argument cads made was u might look silly to ur friends or something like that if u speak to someone that is "trolling"
pankkake: if only there was a Web of Ignore
nubbins`: web of mistrust
mircea_popescu: web of mistrust sounds like a great game title.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 153 @ 0.00349934 = 0.5354 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: would play
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3255 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/ < i love how it's pretty much the big miners betting yes and the general public betting no
ozbot: BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014
mircea_popescu: people ARE starting to hedge properly.
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,diff
gribble: Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command.
gribble: 7.074082830514966E8
mircea_popescu: ;;bcstats
gribble: Current Blocks: 272498 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1677 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 10 hours, 15 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 864170438.127 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.16007
pankkake: some serious power being added
ozbot: 707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 1677 blocks | Estimated Change: 21.4365% in 9d 3h 27m 35s
mircea_popescu: o wow wasn't it 13% yest ?
pankkake: where is the thing using "last 3 days"
pankkake: yeah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00328687 = 0.1052 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3255 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.3255 = 1.6275 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.3258 = 1.9548 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3258 BTC [+]
ozbot: 707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 1677 blocks | Estimated Change: 21.4365% in 9d 3h 19m 5s
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 119 @ 0.00328378 = 0.3908 BTC [-] {6}
pankkake: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 862504808.6 based on data since last change | 877503262.113 based on data for last three days
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.326 BTC [+]
nubbins`: my redeemed casascius coin is up to $62 on ebay
mircea_popescu: it's not a gold coin is it ?
nubbins`: brass
nubbins`: seems like there's a fair bit of demand for them, too
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: so what sort of art assets fall under the "desperately need" umbrella for S.MG?
mircea_popescu: well 3d models for flora and fauna, architecture, more textures, a hud...
nubbins`: hud sounds interesting, what's involved?
mircea_popescu: not quite specified yet, but basically remember how diablo 1/2 looked /
ozbot: MIT graduates cannot power a light bulb with a battery. - YouTube
nubbins`: ah yeah, i remember the general look of it
mircea_popescu: something like that, marble figurines suppoerting the vitals, marblework bottom
mircea_popescu: has to be elegant and somehow make sense with our SIX different fucking vitals.
ThickAsThieves: like blood pressure?
mircea_popescu: has to also be easily schemable (i can see other than gothic mablework a la diablo a alchemist-crazy machine chemistry set look and a nature grapes and vines look. perhaps even a tesla thing, perhaps even a zerg thing - that's already 5 faces)
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves hitpoints/bloodpoints ; mana/spirit ; a physical and a magical stamina.
nubbins`: hm, interesting
nubbins`: assuming 100% width on bottom, got a max % of height in mind?
mircea_popescu: it'd be a hud see ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00328 = 0.328 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: this thing superimposed o the map view in 1st person
mircea_popescu: o i see what you mean nm.
nubbins`: heh, i started re-reading everything D:
mircea_popescu: it shouldn't be "very big" but not tiny either is the best i can say
ThickAsThieves: as small as possible
ThickAsThieves: while still usable
mircea_popescu: yeah. as small as possible while still delivering.
mircea_popescu: diablo 2's is perhaps slightly too large.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.326 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00079343 = 7.8946 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: sorry, i mean d1. d2 is maybe on the too small side
mircea_popescu: for reference
nubbins`: ah, sure, ok. that leaves a lot more room to work with
nubbins`: so say roughly 20-25% of vertical
mircea_popescu: the idea is that it's filigree'd
mircea_popescu: so it's not the same height all through
mircea_popescu: more on edges, less in center
nubbins`: yeah
mircea_popescu: actually a V sort of design prolly best anyway
mircea_popescu: maybe even with thin wire frames on the edges, 16px or w/e, and decor on the upcorners
nubbins`: d1 hud could lose like half its height in the center and still be ok
mircea_popescu: and obviously because of the general look and feel considerations i'd want the same people making each face to do a lot of the menu work too.
mircea_popescu: so it's probably one of the later things to consider.
ThickAsThieves: forum is down
ThickAsThieves: ;;nethash
gribble: 6281508.86974
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves use the ip, it's in the log
mircea_popescu: tghey fucked up their dns
ThickAsThieves: got it thx
ThickAsThieves: it goes to bitcoins.com
nubbins`: wondering if it's worth exploring faces that work stylistically with the heraldry trims, i.e. bone face, storm face, spider/tentacle face, etc
Apocalyptic: ThickAsThieves, does virtual host ring a bell ?
ThickAsThieves: thats not it
nubbins`: altho that might just be me projecting
mircea_popescu: either feed it into your dns autoresolver or else replace bitcointalk.org in an actual url wioth the ip
nubbins`: really like the idea of a grapes/vines one tho
nubbins`: and marblework is classy
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yeah. all this takes more thinking.
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, the latter won't work actually
ThickAsThieves: Apocalyptic ?
ThickAsThieves: what's the IP anyway?
mircea_popescu: generally tho, the faces are impiortant cause ppl spend so much time gazing at them
Apocalyptic: since it indeed redirects to bitcoins.com with the plain IP
ThickAsThieves: i just found this Apocalyptic
mircea_popescu: say a boar, you see for 5 minutes a day. the fucking interface is there 100% of the time
Apocalyptic: ThickAsThieves, you're on some unix-based system ?
nubbins`: nod, it's what you stare at all day
ozbot: [Mpex.co] The biggest scam in bitcoin history?
mircea_popescu: how come ozbot can see it ?
nubbins`: well, let's put a pin in this and maybe chat a bit more about it when some more details are hashed out
ThickAsThieves: i'm on windows atm, mp's new link works tho
Apocalyptic: interesting mircea
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic together, with our powers combined, we make team bitcointalk access
Apocalyptic: providing the girl with opportunities for moar lulz
Apocalyptic: (and ruining her day off, too)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.326 = 0.652 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: you gotta be totally thermos to imagine cloudflaring domain names does anything against ddos
mircea_popescu: as if anyone actually dns's his dos packets, wtf.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.30500103 = 0.61 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30500001 BTC [-]
ozbot: 3-day Auction for Invite Code to purchase Google Glass
KRS|gotyawallet: that is teh lulz mircea_popescu
KRS|gotyawallet: i have a friend that does that for a living..he told me some good stories..cloudflare is their biggest competitor
mircea_popescu: nubbins` the good news is of course that only a 2048x 1536 transp png is needed, we can scale that as needed.
mircea_popescu: so this is the lulz of all time. local da sued local lawyer guy in family court, to force him to recognise her child.
mircea_popescu: dna tests showed the man is not the father
mircea_popescu: the court declared him the father ANYWAY
mircea_popescu: on the grounds that "there's no inkling of proof that any other man figured in the life of the claimant"
ThickAsThieves: he has two DNAs I guess
ThickAsThieves: only one is testable
mircea_popescu: "pull the other one"
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves this incidentally is true, there exist chymeras
nubbins`: 2048x1536, gotcha
ThickAsThieves: parasitic chimerism sounds pretty neat
ThickAsThieves: "Chimerism occurs naturally in adult Ceratioid anglerfish and is in fact a natural and essential part of their life cycle. Once a male is born, it begins its search for a female. Using strong olfactory glands, the male searches until it locates a female anglerfish. The male, less than an inch in length, bites into her skin and releases an enzyme that digests the skin of his mouth and
ThickAsThieves: her body, fusing the pair down to the blood-vessel level. While this attachment has become necessary for the male's survival, it will eventually consume him, as both anglerfish fuse into a single hermaphroditic individual. Sometimes in this odd ritual, more than one male will attach to a single female as a 'parasite'. They will both be consumed into the body of the larger female angler.
ThickAsThieves: Once fused to a female, the males will reach sexual maturity, developing large testicles as their other organs atrophy. This process allows for sperm to be in constant supply when the female produces an egg, so that the chimeric fish is able to have a greater number of offspring."
nubbins`: sick
nubbins`: nature, hey?
nubbins`: some of the s.mg heraldry is based on angler fish
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it appears in humans too, usually in cases when homozygotal twins resorb into one single individual
mircea_popescu: you get people with kidneys from one dna line and blood/liver/brain etc from another dna line
mircea_popescu: then they donate a kidney to a family member and the result is fulminant transplant rejection
mircea_popescu: also occasionally problematic in sports.
mircea_popescu: ;;google Foekje Dillema
gribble: Foekje Dillema - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foekje_Dillema>; Foekje Dillema :: English summary: <http://www.foekjedillema.nl/index_fd_eng.html>; Foekje Dillema :: was hermafrodiet: <http://foekjedillema.nl/>
nubbins`: ah, you beat me to it
nubbins`: "Similar situations in modern sporting are referred to as the 'Dillema Dilemma' in honor of the late Dutch track and field star"
nubbins`: j/k, but it should be so ;(
ystarnaud: meh... chicago
nubbins`: someone i know shared that link on facebook with a big "what's wrong with people@! consumerism etc!" rant
nubbins`: i'm waiting for someone else to point out that it's obviously a parody news site
ystarnaud: its like a 3rd world country inside the US over there
nubbins`: According to Wal-Mart, America’s largest retailer, the company admits that over 5,000 shoppers will be killed at their stores this Holiday season. “We include people killed from Thanksgiving to Christmas, so it’s not like they are all dying in one day. Besides, more kids will die making this junk than they do buying it, we see that as a positive,” Wal-Mart Spokesman Charlie Hass told the He
ystarnaud: you know what its probably not far from the truth :P
ystarnaud: people are insane
ystarnaud: save a life shop online lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 91 @ 0.00327 = 0.2976 BTC [-] {2}
ystarnaud: AM still around the 0.3 mark i see... guess it could be worse
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32579437 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: could be about .3 worse ;)
ystarnaud: yup lol
ystarnaud: i havent checked the news much lately but hopefully friedcat is gonna release something awesome soon
mircea_popescu: not relenting.
ystarnaud: yeah...
nubbins`: well ya know. you shop online, and you're just condemning some poor guy in an amazon fulfillment warehouse to the same trampling death
ThickAsThieves: for reals, like 1PH in a week?
nubbins`: they work on quotas ya know!
thestringpuller: we pullin petahashes now?
nubbins`: following a t-shirt from cotton fields to your torso
thestringpuller: i bet nubbin's still has slaves
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 86 @ 0.003485 = 0.2997 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: i'm canadian, we were never subhuman slave drivers
nubbins`: anyway, this one cotton farmer they talked to
nubbins`: produces 13,000 bales of cotton a year -- enough for 9.4mn t-shirts -- with only 13 workers
thestringpuller: "Swwwiiiing low. Sweeeeet charrriot"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 87 @ 0.00352758 = 0.3069 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: "Comin to carrrry meeeee hoooome."
ozbot: Slavery in Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32589999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 102 @ 0.00353872 = 0.3609 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: "Slavery within Canada's current geography was practised primarily by Aboriginal groups."
nubbins`: nice try truffles
truffles: in Canada
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3259 BTC [+]
truffles: so theyre not real Canadians?
KRS|gotyawallet: I think that was Somalia.
nubbins`: truffles: why don't you ask them?
nubbins`: you might be surprised
truffles: read the next paragraph
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 107 @ 0.00346308 = 0.3705 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3259 BTC [+]
nubbins`: fuck, i accidentally just ate lunch
truffles: Because early Canada's role in the trans-Atlantic slave trade was so minor, the history of slavery in Canada is often overshadowed by the more tumultuous slavery practised elsewhere in the Americas...
nubbins`: was supposed to meet p for lunch in a half hour D:
truffles: is the point, that is all
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 397 @ 0.00349127 = 1.386 BTC [+] {7}
nubbins`: sounds like a bunch of euros moved to canada and bought 2nd hand slaves from the yanquis
nubbins`: i still see no evidence of canadians owning slaves
Diablo-D3: >2nd hand slaves
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3259 = 0.6518 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: would make a great name for a heavy metal band
mircea_popescu: no true scottsman.
nubbins`: no TRUE canadian ;)
nubbins`: anyway, i'm just playing semantics
nubbins`: but you're not canadian unless you were born here
ThickAsThieves: maybe Gox bought the forums
ThickAsThieves: they own bitcoins.com right?
nubbins`: rubber ball seats for everyone?
nubbins`: i wonder if i could find a black polo shirt big enough to fit over one of those balls
ThickAsThieves: Mt Gox ~ We Eat Pizza for Breakfast
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32599779 BTC [+]
KRS|gotyawallet: All I want for Christmas is...To talk like Mark Karpelestthhesthhh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3190001 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: Havelock hot wallet still empty :/
pankkake: hacked!
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves gox had been hosting the forum forever.
thestringpuller: Havelock got hacked?
pankkake: they're just lazy and don't work weekends
thestringpuller: we should meet in limones sometime pankkake
thestringpuller: get some wine and toast to retirement
ThickAsThieves: thestringpuller, you retire on 3btc? ;)
thestringpuller: 3btc is what I ipo on foo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [+]
truffles: nice zing
thestringpuller: buuuuuuuuuurn
ozbot: Proper accounting for stock warrants pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: davout ^
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0033 = 0.165 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 106 @ 0.00330283 = 0.3501 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3259 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.14000001 = 0.84 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C050T] 1000 @ 0.05294401 = 52.944 BTC
thestringpuller: is that long?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14000001 = 0.28 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ;;calc (1000 - 50) / 1000
gribble: 0.95
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C050T] 1000 @ 0.05293372 = 52.9337 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: lot changed to 0.1? so divide by another 10?
thestringpuller: ;;calc (1000 - 50) / 100
gribble: 9.5
thestringpuller: ;;calc (1000 - 50) / 10000
gribble: 0.095
mircea_popescu: yeah, this is short btc exposure
thestringpuller: how do I calculate exercise prices based on new lot
thestringpuller: i'm dumb
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1092.40231, Best ask: 1092.40242, Bid-ask spread: 0.00011, Last trade: 1092.40231, 24 hour volume: 36457.52461371, 24 hour low: 1063.0, 24 hour high: 1225.24904, 24 hour vwap: 1145.15858
thestringpuller: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc (114.51 - 50) / 114.51
gribble: 0.56335691206
thestringpuller: okay there we go
thestringpuller: wait what is the bot quoting from if btc-charts is down?
mircea_popescu: it;s not down
dexX7: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 7.746001 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0155228992755 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin one full loop along the orbit of the Moon around Earth (0.016 AU).
mircea_popescu: also actual avg is 1057.09
mircea_popescu: i dunno wtf gribs is on about.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.0004 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.32599989 = 0.978 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C050T] 1000 @ 0.05280992 = 52.8099 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C050T] 1000 @ 0.05280992 = 52.8099 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C050T] 1000 @ 0.05280992 = 52.8099 BTC [-]
jcpham: btcavg or stamp iirc on gribble
jcpham: most otc trades go by stamp these days
jcpham: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1070.0, Best ask: 1070.63, Bid-ask spread: 0.63000, Last trade: 1070.63, 24 hour volume: 37259.10340799, 24 hour low: 1063.0, 24 hour high: 1225.24904, 24 hour vwap: 1143.32597
jcpham: ;;ticker --market bitstamp
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 950.62, Best ask: 950.74, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 950.74, 24 hour volume: 26816.23380908, 24 hour low: 950.56, 24 hour high: 1147.27, 24 hour vwap: 1036.54927537
jcpham: ;;ticker --market btcavg
gribble: BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 965.6, Best ask: 967.33, Bid-ask spread: 1.73000, Last trade: 965.76, 24 hour volume: 96761.63, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 1081.02
jcpham: nope i'm wrong still gox by default
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14000001 = 0.28 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00079394 = 7.6218 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: stock warrants, interesting instruments
thestringpuller: wow someone is hedging against the price plummeting
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32599989 BTC [+]
nubbins`: i'm curious to see what s.mg is gonna look like this time next year
thestringpuller: doesn't that depend on it's income?
ThickAsThieves: probly depends more on its output
thestringpuller: lol vidya games
thestringpuller: i'ma go buy a ps4
Duffer1: hi stringpuller how's cookies doing?
nubbins`: remember when running linux was touted as a feature for the ps3
nubbins`: then sony said lel jk
thestringpuller: Wassup Duffer1 we liquidated the holdings cause the chef would rather do media, than cookies.
thestringpuller: we can talk about that in pm tho
nubbins`: thestringpuller: i meant as a company in general, not just the price
nubbins`: although that will be interesting to watch as well
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32599989 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 400 @ 0.0004 = 0.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00079382 = 13.9712 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C050T] 1000 @ 0.05245791 = 52.4579 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00079553 = 12.3307 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C050T] 1000 @ 0.05240216 = 52.4022 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C050T] 443 @ 0.05232243 = 23.1788 BTC [-]
bloctoc: balls
thestringpuller: !ticker m ^OIX
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.03 = 0.21 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 966.84577, Best ask: 975.0, Bid-ask spread: 8.15423, Last trade: 975.0, 24 hour volume: 44723.96494695, 24 hour low: 955.0, 24 hour high: 1225.24904, 24 hour vwap: 1121.83431
thestringpuller: there is no bottom bound :(
thestringpuller: ;;ticker --bitsamp
thestringpuller: ;;ticker --bitstamp
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message)
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message)
FabianB: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 1022.0, vol: 46025.26721689 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 930.0, vol: 36417.55084220 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 820.0, vol: 35422.39654 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 924.0001, vol: 7488.37845752 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 754.0, vol: 247.34388967 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 1033.83, vol: 79580.06000000 | Volume-weighted last average: 971.486281257
ozbot: Satoshi Nakamoto is (probably) Nick Szabo | LikeInAMirror
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.323002 BTC [-]
Jere_Jones: I would be so disappointed if Satoshi's real name is... Nick.
bloctoc: The US State Department probably plagiarized that guys paper while launching bitcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15680 @ 0.00079312 = 12.4361 BTC [-] {3}
KRS|gotyawallet: bet that
bloctoc: are you talking to me? if so, I think I need some language that can be verified in order to meet the rigorous bitbet.us standards.
bloctoc: on or before January 1, 2015 Financial Times of London will confirm that Department of State in conjunction with MI6 plagiarized Nick Szabo and other cryptography papers to publish the bitcoin white paper.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.15499999 BTC [+]
pankkake: bitcointalk really down now?
Duffer1: it's been incredibly slow for me past couple days
thestringpuller: you can only make bets extended 1 year
thestringpuller: so i don't think you could do january 2015
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 928.0, Best ask: 930.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 928.0, 24 hour volume: 52253.23241677, 24 hour low: 930.0, 24 hour high: 1224.0, 24 hour vwap: 1097.5269
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00203 = 0.203 BTC [+]
KRS|gotyawallet: ;;asks 800
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 800.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 200.0130 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9848 @ 0.00079119 = 7.7916 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: ;;asks 900
gribble: There are currently 81.995016 bitcoins offered at or under 900.0 USD, worth 73795.514517 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.1473 seconds
thestringpuller: geeze what's causing this?
FabianB: huge coin drops
FabianB: s/o cashing out 500 btc batches
Duffer1: s/o?
FabianB: someone
bloctoc: I suppose bitpay has some risk from yesterday to lay offf
dexX7: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 15.335524 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0307322183909 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
dexX7: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 5.871318 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0117660555334 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its second largest moon, Callisto (0.012567 AU).
benkay: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 944.99, vol: 63210.92916600 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 869.0, vol: 51848.42502675 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 790.289, vol: 49325.45561 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 860.1, vol: 10806.73683434 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 781.02, vol: 0 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 978.6924, vol: 86370.68500000 | Volume-weighted last average: 908.374837398
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.30801667 = 3.6962 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 315 @ 0.00324123 = 1.021 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00320575 = 1.6029 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.0032 = 0.336 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32497979 BTC [+]
davout: :/clear
davout: shit, this is not vi x)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 400 @ 0.0032 = 1.28 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.155 = 0.31 BTC [+]
benkay: so who are the new scamchange contenders?
davout: benkay: howso?
benkay: well btctc shut down, and picostocks, and crypto whatever
benkay: scammers gonna scam
benkay: so where are the new exchanges?
davout: mpex, failing last. draw the dots
benkay: wat
davout: argh. connect the dots
benkay: i'm aware there's competence in the space, i'm asking where the incompetence is gravitating towards.
benkay: <strike>towards</strike>
bloctoc: benkay - I moved from Ripple to Mastercoin a few days ago. I rode Satoshi Dice from 70 to 17, so I think I have some credibility to gravitate to what you're asking about.
davout: lol
assbot: Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1489499/plain/)
kakobrekla: shit, needs more context
assbot: Last 10 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1489500/plain/)
kakobrekla: !b 10
davout: so apparently someone accidentally enabled cloudflare for btctalk
benkay: anyways. question is: where are all of the new buttcoin fartups initializing their public oopses?
davout: working for anyone here?
kakobrekla: benkay, ill be doing panacea soon!
benkay: davout: nope. that's why i'm asking -assets where the new fleecing operations are taking place instead of browsing btctalk.
jurov`: craptostocks still there
jcpham: maybe the bitcoin investing subreddit?
pankkake: https://crypto-trade.com/tradex/ipo lol at having ipo in url for all securities
ozbot: Crypto-Trade | Bitcoin Exchange, Namecoin Exchange, Litecoin Exchange, Primecoin Exchange, BTC Excha
kakobrekla: silver member! no futher questions.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13206 @ 0.00079369 = 10.4815 BTC [+] {2}
bloctoc: rate kakobrekla -5 posting in channel comments out of context to the web for search engines
bloctoc: ;;rate kakobrekla -5 posting in channel comments out of context to the web for search engines
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -5 for user kakobrekla has been recorded.
kakobrekla: mah perfect record ruined!
bloctoc: as is mine
kakobrekla: ;;getrating bloctoc
kakobrekla: stupid gribble
kakobrekla: ;;gettrust bloctoc
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask bloctoc!~bloctoc@50.168.9.127. Trust relationship from user kakobrekla to user bloctoc: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=kakobrekla&dest=bloctoc | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bloctoc | Rated since: Tue Oct 29 20:18:14 2013
kakobrekla: i dont see anything wrong there
kakobrekla: emm dude, this is a logged chan with public access to logs
kakobrekla: says so on the front door.
bloctoc: logs have context
kakobrekla: not sure if you dont know or trolling?
pankkake: quoting out of context is half the fun of quotes
kakobrekla: i think you should fix your rating on me with "kako bashed me, im butthurt"
bloctoc: ;;rate kakobrekla -5 kako bashed me, im butthurt
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from -5 to -5.
kakobrekla: more appropriate
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10869 @ 0.00079254 = 8.6141 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1063 @ 0.00078987 = 0.8396 BTC [-]
dub: monday is for drama
benkay: whatchoo mean?
dub: price drama
dub: -assets drama
dub: internets drama
benkay: the bitcoin engine needs moar drama fuel
benkay: price not rocket to moon fast enough
davout: pankkake: true
bloctoc: ;;rate kakobrekla 1 dividends
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from -5 to 1.
kakobrekla: i deny everything
jurov`: orly, dividends
jurov`: ;;calc 10000 * 0.0005
jurov`: benkay: blame thermos, no trolltalk, no drama
Vexual: did someone say drama?
jurov`: i said *no* drama
Vexual: stupid computer, I told it to wake me if there was any drama.
jurov`: change it to trigger on amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
Vexual: didnt even put the coffee on
truffles: what drama
jurov`: lol truffles is another?
truffles: im asking
benkay: dem females.
truffles: which females?
truffles: hints no bueno
jurov`: just some addicts that have "drama" trigger wired to wake them and brew coffee
truffles: i have tough decision here
truffles: tea or alcohol..
jurov`: maybe even automatic intravenous drug administration
truffles: another tough decision, my nut wont crack
truffles: nm crisis averted
truffles: so guys looks like bitcoin is on a spiral
Vexual: psychiadellic nuts?
truffles: no wai man, drugs r bad mmmkk
Vexual: hallucinating for no reason is worse
truffles: thats when u give urself a pick me up smack
Vexual: youre eating nuts and smacking yourself? and hallucinating?
Vexual: I picture you as niles standish
ozbot: Crank Yankers Niles Standish Hires A Receptionist - YouTube
truffles: im fking cool then
nubbins`: lel @ benkay
nubbins`: Initial Public Oops
nubbins`: maybe the best yet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00079067 = 9.0136 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: what about intentinally providing 0?
nubbins`: what about i had too many nachos and beer and now i feel ill?
dub: hao aboot Internally Penetrating Organ
truffles: what kind of cheese?`
nubbins`: cheddar/mozza blend
dub: proper american chese, out of a can
nubbins`: banana peppers too
truffles: can yuck
nubbins`: american cheese is fucking great
truffles: puke
nubbins`: but you can't buy it in stores here
Duffer1: cheeze whiz lol
nubbins`: you can buy foot-long slices at restaurant supply stores, that's it
truffles: how have i not heard of banana peppers!
nubbins`: so basically if you want american cheese you gotta go eat fast/restaurant food :(
truffles: but i eat chilli all the time ..
nubbins`: banana peppers are great
nubbins`: very flavorful
dub: in other drama, paulk walker rip
nubbins`: you can get em in big jars of brine
nubbins`: Duffer1: cheese whiz on rice is actually really good.
davout: < nubbins`> american cheese is fucking great <--- ahem
nubbins`: figured that'd draw comment
Duffer1: that stuff is evil
truffles: dub's he's one good looking dude
dub: was
davout: nubbins`: i bit
jurov`: i heard american cheese is reusable
dub: now he's a crispy critter
truffles: oh so it was him..
nubbins`: jurov, like it comes out the same when you're done eating it?
davout: some american stuff is really good though and is hardly found where i live for obscure reasons
dub: jurov`: its recycled for sure
davout: try to get some bacon in france
jurov`: yes, like that. just don't mix it with other stuff
nubbins`: davout: i mean like the classic american burger cheese. not sure if it's processed cheddar or w/e
nubbins`: but it's just not available in groc stores here
nubbins`: only restaurants
davout: nubbins`: where do you live ?
nubbins`: eastern canada
truffles: whyd u want that anyways..
dub: its cheddar that they've removed any flavour from
nubbins`: yeah, you'd have to age it for years to give it the flavor of cheddar
nubbins`: it's basically texture slices
davout: nubbins`: it's weird, you'd think the geographical proximity would make the same kind of stuff available in stores...
nubbins`: yeah, market size, i guess
dub: its low quality plastic that the chinese didnt want
nubbins`: lot of times it just comes down to the fact that it's not worth importing
nubbins`: canadian population is what, 10% of american
Vexual: chinese dont eat cheese
nubbins`: lactose intolerance is much more common in asia
davout: nubbins`: no but i mean sometimes you really wonder, because the stuff can be produced locally quite easily as well
davout: for example bacon in france
nubbins`: davout, too true
nubbins`: pigs have the same parts over there, afaik ;)
nubbins`: you could probably request it from a butcher
davout: when going to the stores you will find exactly 0 bacon packs
dub: they probably get more to eat than just antibiotics however
davout: or shitty super thin stuff, but no fucking bacon
nubbins`: there's a butcher by my house that sells bacon by the slice
nubbins`: freshly cut off the hog
davout: bacon is awesome, it'd sell. i can't make sense out of this lack of bacon
davout: nubbins`: i guess that'd work
nubbins`: well, maybe the cuts of meat that are popular there just don't allow for bacon
truffles: maybe they like not being fat
davout: nubbins`: ahhhh, that would make a lot of sense
nubbins`: different cultures chop their animals different ways
nubbins`: like a t-bone steak isn't generally available as a cut of meat in some places
dub: I have some pork in the freezer that has eaten mostly pinot grapes
davout: but, come on, fucking bacon, it's not like there's a single hog and you have to make a difficult decision about the way you're going to cut it up :-)
nubbins`: davout, too true
nubbins`: is there at least thick-cut pork belly?
dub: raised on friends vinyard
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.10999995 = 0.22 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: i've got a huge piece of moose in my freezer
truffles: start ur own pig farm with bacon cuts
nubbins`: considering grinding it
nubbins`: maybe make moose donairs
truffles: that looks good!
nubbins`: donairs or moose?
truffles: donairs
nubbins`: they're great
nubbins`: nothing like a halifax-style donair
truffles: of course moose tastes like beef to me..
nubbins`: nod, a bit spicier
nubbins`: great for stews
davout: nubbins`: yes there is
nubbins`: it's a bit lean for some cooking methods
truffles: nice way to get out some aggression while cooking
nubbins`: davout: maybe a ncie shawarma
nubbins`: truffles: fuck mallets, i tenderize with my fists
truffles: evoporated milk thats one sweet meal
davout: "mallets", i fucking love this word
nubbins`: the sauce is divine
truffles: rather use it for desserts
nubbins`: just garlic, milk, sugar, salt, vinegar
davout: "They brought forth scintillating jeweled scuttling crabs, which the Vogons ate, smashing them with large iron mallets"
nubbins`: so thick, so sweet
nubbins`: too garlicky for desserts
truffles: the milk
nubbins`: ideally you can take a bowl of the sauce and hold it upside down without losing any
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00320001 = 0.96 BTC [-] {3}
Vexual: whisked or fisted nubs?
nubbins`: that's how you tell when you've added enough vinegar
nubbins`: sauce is whisked, i don't like sticky hands
truffles: def skip sauce, will try the meat method
nubbins`: some recipes call for triple-ground, this is not necessary
nubbins`: at least try a small batch of the sauce, it's worth the risk
Vexual: I like to imagine you with no kitchen utensils but your fists, making fancy recipies
nubbins`: heh!
Vexual: it would make a hilarious cooking show
Vexual: dead moose lying therew
Vexual: big frnch chefs hat
Vexual: and now for the nishiew shwaqrma
ozbot: All things Donair: Halifax Donair Sauce, Donair Meat, Donair Subs, Donair Pizza Recipes (And Garlic
nubbins`: ^ best recipe
nubbins`: thyme fans can feel free to add 1tsp of that as well
nubbins`: using a broiler pan is VERY IMPORTANT
Vexual: and then into a medium hot oven for about 45 minutes... but it's really just the kitchen cupboard doors you have removed with your fists and are buring in a pile on the bench
nubbins`: making butter, etc
dub: language is funny
dub: your donair is a donner kebab most everywhere else
truffles: they've made it canadian style
dub: now with added moosecock
nubbins`: what's odd is that places with good donairs are usually greek-owned
kakobrekla: meh donner
nubbins`: but they don't call em gyros
kakobrekla: i prefer gyros
kakobrekla: its different
Vexual: if you don't have a rotissary, i find you can use your fists
truffles: blow torch is used in this donner method sick
kakobrekla: meh fu
kakobrekla: now im hungry
nubbins`: nah they use the side-bake things here
truffles: yea i want a gyro
Vexual: all these fat bastards drooling on their keyboards!
kakobrekla: im not fat!
kakobrekla: just big bonned
Vexual: its not drool
kakobrekla: semen?
Vexual: mmmm fist bacon
Vexual: I'm a salami man myself
Vexual: bacon just doesnt keep very well
truffles: freezer?
ozbot: Richard and Sal "hold everything" pizza prank call - YouTube
Vexual: hey nubs, is moose gut any good for sausage skin?
Vexual: they must have a voluminous shit chute
dexX7: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 180.909868 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.362541349904 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
Vexual: i gotta get me to canadia one of these days
dexX7: do you store a goxlag history?
dexX7: well, it's in the logs..
jurov`: hmm, bitcoinity says no lag. or < 5s.
dexX7: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 1.446068 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00289790408102 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
truffles: oh look upswing
jurov`: mtgox is faster than light
dub: bacon keeps fine
dub: just resalt and hang
Vexual: u make dub?
dexX7: goxlag low, btc-e online again.. probably time to rebuy btc <.<"
ozbot: Jezus charts and graphs
jurov`: trolltak still down
dexX7: ah nice, thanks
dub: automatic fucks given tracker: 0
Vexual: lol
Vexual: bacon is the key number here
dub: start graphing given fucks plox
Vexual: be be be be be be
dub: in fact i'll do it for you |_____________________________________________________________
jurov`: i see, you only receive
jurov`: not give
dub: outside my control too
kakobrekla: rape?
dub: i can't stop people caring
davout: trolltalk seems to be available, except the DNS records point to cloudflare instead of pointing to the servers IP
dub: theymos must be spending the donated billions
dub: on free ddos mitigation
davout: CloudFlare, getting MITM'd the hipster way
pankkake: old ip doesn't work anymore
truffles: didnt he put up a reward to resolve this problem?
dub: the problem is theymos and it should be solved with a bullet
davout: pankkake: what's the old IP? I read something today by theymos saying it should go in the hosts file until the CF shit is under control
Vexual: that would hurt profits
pankkake: 109.201.133.195 - it worked for a while, but now it's totally down
kakobrekla: im amazed to what extent ppl go to read that hole
truffles: dub thats extreme, ure saying he's the fking it up even with hired help
davout: kakobrekla: gotta get my fix of mpoe-pr decapitating noobs
dub: I needed to talk buttcoin so I hacked my gibson
kakobrekla: yeah you are all full of exuses
pankkake: I'm starting to reduce my watchinglist, it's becoming hard for my mental sanity
dub: truffles: I'm saying he is a fuckup
pankkake: removed the french autowatch
pankkake: too many people buying whatevercoin for paypal
truffles: dub still he seemed cautious so..
davout: pankkake: + my radeon doesn't give me free money derp
kakobrekla: eh the numbers are much larger on alt chains
kakobrekla: you can get like over 9000 of those.
truffles: haha
pankkake: the thing is, it's actually true
truffles: that will never die in this hosue
pankkake: it's not a parody
pankkake: and btw one of the most mooning coins is INFINITEcoin
truffles: allacoin made my day
pankkake: AllahCoin?
truffles: i think so
ozbot: Muslim armwrestler ALLAHU AKBAR! - YouTube
SupernovaeS: Hello folks
davout: hi
SupernovaeS: What's the talk about 80% of QRK already mined?
SupernovaeS: Is it true?
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1008.80001, Best ask: 1009.97998, Bid-ask spread: 1.17997, Last trade: 1009.97998, 24 hour volume: 79692.20465001, 24 hour low: 840.32, 24 hour high: 1216.9, 24 hour vwap: 1041.59128
assbot: 123!
benkay: wth assbot
pankkake: it's 796
assbot: 123!
benkay: why?
assbot: this is a social experiment. thank you for participating, humans.
benkay: bitcoin arg
assbot: Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1489603/plain/)
davout: !b 7
assbot: as you might notice, im not bashble. that would be deviding by zero.
assbot: also fukken typos for the turing.
davout: awshit- blackhole
benkay: assbot can't recurse
benkay: what kind of lame ai can't recurse?
kakobrekla: its not a bug its a feature
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.315 BTC [-]
benkay: so i hear on the regular
kakobrekla: well maybe you should take that as a sign :D
davout: assbot seems to be victim of it's own success
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.310001 = 0.62 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: benkay theres a specific condition somewhere to filter out the trading garbage out
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.310001 = 0.62 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: as its normally not part of the bash
kakobrekla: if it is - you can do it manually
benkay: yeah, i've put stuff in there
benkay: thanks for operating assbot/bash/log etc btw
benkay: we love you too kako
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00208 = 0.2018 BTC [+]
davout: HAHAHA aw shit
davout: btctalk now works
davout: "Login temporarily discouraged"
kakobrekla: im safe
davout: this is priceless
davout: also apparently thermos doesn't know session cookies go on the same wire as credentials
davout: anyway
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 114 @ 0.00208 = 0.2371 BTC [+]
Duffer1: how many B does bitcointalk have in donations?
davout: >5k i reckon
runam0k: so what's the story - hacked again?
davout: apparently someone accidentally enabled cloudflare for btctalk ending up, as usual, in drama and lulz
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 750 @ 0.002095 = 1.5713 BTC [+]
davout: not much details available as far as i know tho
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31902 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: NSA tappings
benkay: hey kako where are the bitbet monthly statements? mpex says they'll be accessible "on website" - does that mean trilema and not bitbet?
benkay: kakobrekla: ^^
kakobrekla: aha ok
kakobrekla: firstly
kakobrekla: that sentence is not included in the contract
kakobrekla: secondly
benkay: (carefully never said contract)
kakobrekla: since mpex is the bitcoin exchange, i assume any vague reference to a website means THE website which is trilema
kakobrekla: there is where the statements are
kakobrekla: also bitcointalk.
benkay: ya well these vague statements
ozbot: S.BBET pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
kakobrekla: hope this helps
kakobrekla: this also gets dumped to some bitcointalk thread
kakobrekla: not that anyone reads it there.
psk_: hı
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 33 @ 0.32551147 = 10.7419 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00079603 = 8.5971 BTC [+]
nubbins`: vexual, not sure re: moose casings
nubbins`: ive only had moose sausage once, but i'd imagine the intestines get left in the field
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 8 @ 0.122222 = 0.9778 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3290999 = 0.6582 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 369 @ 0.00203499 = 0.7509 BTC [-] {2}
random_cat: want to borrow 50 LTC
random_cat: will pay 2.5 LTC to borrow for 16 days
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3291 BTC [+]
dub: thats a random request for this chan
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.002035 = 0.1038 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00206749 = 0.1034 BTC [+] {3}
dexX7: "News: If you used your password to login between 06:00 Dec 1 UTC and 20:00 Dec 2 UTC, then your password may have been captured in a man-in-the-middle attack, and you should change your password here and wherever else you used it. If you were only logged in via the "remember me" feature, then you're OK."
dexX7: bad joke?
benkay: bitcointalk is itself a bad joke
Duffer1: i still can't even connect to the site
dexX7: same here
dub: neat
dexX7: dub do you have access to btctalk at the moment?
dexX7: can you confirm this msg?
dub: no
mod6: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 272593 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1582 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 8 hours, 53 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 882638224.077 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.77069
random_cat: i can confirm the message
random_cat: but i cannot get anyone to explain how a mitm happens in this situation
dexX7: even worse.. <XXXXXX> how come i cant log into bitcointalk?
random_cat: perhaps the exchanges will get their collective shit together and stop relying on bitcointalk as a communication path to the customers
Duffer1: which exchanges?
dub: random_cat: in what situation?
random_cat: dub: logging into an ssl secured website
benkay: i for one am amazed that mpex operations deign to actually publish financials there
random_cat: did someone alter the DNS (there is a hint to that end), or wtf?
dub: I suspect this is another case of theymos not understanding what he's looking at and assuming something retarded
random_cat: that is merely informative, no? mpex also provides the info on honme turf
benkay: a) duplication b) why continue to legitimize the operation?
random_cat: point taken on b
dub: isnt it obvious
dub: mp needs newbs to enrage
random_cat: is theymos prone to that?
random_cat: did the theft of the password hashes occur? it just occurred to me that i haven't changed my passord.... probably should after the 'all clear'
benkay: mp needs noobrage energy to feed his dark sorcery
dub: last time it got hacked he ended up saying 'lol oops, no i was looking at the wrong thing'
dub: safest just to assume it is and was always compromised
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3291 = 0.6582 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: lol @ benkay
benkay: gyft
benkay: more like gryft
nubbins`: mint.ca down, canadian dollar crashing
nubbins`: possible mitm
random_cat: would that be stephen poloz?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 24 @ 0.05002927 = 1.2007 BTC [-] {6}
Vexual: Frankie Muniz
nubbins`: bryan cranston
Bugpowder: wtf with the call options pricing?
Bugpowder: is it not very very broken?
Bugpowder: oh wait.
Bugpowder: 50 per 0.1BTC?
Bugpowder: is O.USD.C050T
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 598 @ 0.002 = 1.196 BTC [+]
benkay: yeah man
benkay: although mp has yet to capitulate on actually listing them in lots of satoshis
thestringpuller: lololol Bugpowder has not bought options in awhile
thestringpuller: Bugpowder Bugpowder Bugpowder !!!!
Bugpowder: somebody banged the 50s
Bugpowder: daym
thestringpuller: they're all short though
Bugpowder: I was trying to buy calls when the bitcoin price was 150
thestringpuller: They'll have to go into a straddle if the price goes too high
Bugpowder: but I couldn't figure out how to change the key
Bugpowder: was too drunk
Bugpowder: sigh
Bugpowder: could have bounced back
Bugpowder: coulda ben a contender again
thestringpuller: what's the point of short exposure?
thestringpuller: there's almost 200 btc of C050T
thestringpuller: you can't exit that position until the month closes...does that mean 1 we'll see stability or 2 a price crash?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.32988 = 0.6598 BTC [+]
random_cat: unless you can find a suitable synthetic
thestringpuller: snythetic what?
thestringpuller: synthetic person?
jborkl: So , I am behind in the news. Where did the forum go now?
mike_c: dns problems
thestringpuller: someone also did a man in the middle
thestringpuller: so I expect the forums will be down while theymos again investigates
thestringpuller: i'm so sick of that guy
jborkl: Sweet
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.33499966 = 2.01 BTC [+] {3}
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