asciilifeform: 9 out of 10 times you can find clue re what an mpiism was, by looking in'ere.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: https://gmplib.org/manual/Integer-Division.html has the goodz. they renamed it , tho, mpz_tdiv_q_2exp .
asciilifeform: i wouldn't propose to translate it for public consumption, no
asciilifeform: and can compute using match sticks
asciilifeform: then failed to procure the box, or a usable display for such, and promptly stoppedconsidering
asciilifeform: naaah amiga was an actual comp
asciilifeform: ( winblowz, as most-everyone knows, won't boot off an actual read-only device. so these steampunk hacks. )
asciilifeform: you wouldn't want chumper to install from cd ( they dun give'im a cd, in any event )
asciilifeform: the 'ancients' , notably, were obsessed with 'can haz search'. recall vannevar bush's elaborate 'steampunk' schemes for optical/analogue search in text
asciilifeform: but pre-mechanization log is of quite limited use compared to current item.
asciilifeform: but , importantly , nuffin since
asciilifeform: if all yer workingsets fit in yer cache -- thank molloch, sure , no cause for complaint.
asciilifeform: 'what kind of constraint difftrons may impose' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this goes all the way to the fact that we dun actually ~understand~ rsa ( in that there is no proof that you ~must~ factor to break ; or what the complexityclass of factoring is )
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's cut of mpi did not include primegen or rsa.c
asciilifeform: it ain't in mpi
asciilifeform: and asciilifeform can read hexdump of x86 , mostly without hiccuping, and mircea_popescu prolly can read pdp11 oct dump, but yet for some reason folx pass around sources...
asciilifeform: much as i like sexpr, a sexpr dump of a vector drawing is not humanreadable either. at least not with my puny brain, i have nfi, perhaps mircea_popescu can render these in his head as he reads'em ?
asciilifeform: may as well represent as hexdump of jpeg.
asciilifeform: that's what linear array text is a cheap, impoverished hack approximation to.
asciilifeform: i'm almost surprised that mircea_popescu hasn't yet thought of , e.g., anathemizing ascii in favour of own, arbitrary arrangement of alphabet, strictly for incompatibility's sake; or to proclaim the 17-bit byte...
asciilifeform: at one point asciilifeform planned to cut out the allocator from mpi entirely, but ditched whole thing before ever getting there.
asciilifeform: elsewhere, asciilifeform contemplates , of what is made the black soot that one finds inside servers. wish i still had where to gc/ms...
asciilifeform: ( and i concede the point to mircea_popescu , boat prolly does not work for the contemplated use , in the general case )
asciilifeform: as mircea_popescu quickly figured out, asciilifeform's interest in boats is of a very peculiar kind, and not simply because he likes water.
asciilifeform: forget about matching, how about simply not burning the coin
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754135 << emphasis was quite deliberate on 'this is orthogonal to the problem contemplated'. yes, it is solvable, there are several known obvious solutions.
asciilifeform: dunno, rubidium clock costs nomoar than a typical comp
asciilifeform: compared to, say, naive self-feedbacking inverter clock, or r-c clock.
asciilifeform: i have nuffin against mircea_popescu's beingimpressed.
asciilifeform: rmoar impressive
asciilifeform: i can picture that it'd impress folx who experienced 'typical' technology being webolade, ducttape, perl. the way austrian bidet impressed asciilifeform's grandfather.
asciilifeform: pow where having found the prev champ is of ~any~ advantage, is ipso facto retarded tho.
asciilifeform: very rough attempt.
asciilifeform: and yes mircea_popescu this item is an attempt at the unified theory, rather than proposal for concrete cointron.
asciilifeform: i gave an example scalar, 'coins moved but over 1 block delta'. it is by no means the only possible.
asciilifeform: ( it was perhaps 80% of how asciilifeform cut koch-mpi , by similar proportion )
asciilifeform: ( each candidate-tx is irreversibly bound to its author's picture-at-the-time of the complete world history )
asciilifeform: ( to complete the picture above : no pow, but a tx ~does~ carry a lubyism, e.g. three lengths of 64bits , each of these the xor of 3 64bit substrings of the world-state, hashtronically selected based ~strictly on the tx payload's hash~ -- nothing to waltz, yer stuck with so-and-so lubyism obligation to fulfill by virtue of yer inputs being such-an-such and yer outputs such-an-such )
asciilifeform: prolly i'm doomed to describe a complete algo nao. so consider : no pow. a block is 2^20 bytes . it can hold a certain # of fixed-length tx ( i will not repeat earlier scheme, with the luby etc., imho it was adequate. ) ;
asciilifeform wonders whether he gotta commit another warcrime in the spirit of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-28#1619719 , or to simply lay the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-18#1753876 item out in the l0gz, reasonably compactly.
asciilifeform: so miner waltzed his nonce until it's a composite and trivial
asciilifeform: supposing anyone can be aroused to do it ( g++ aks.cpp -lgmp -o aks )
asciilifeform: not specifically; was tested only using gmp's m-r. really oughta do both.
asciilifeform: and the bottom item was reported as a factor on account of each, taken separately, having passed gmp's m-r after the 1st was found.
asciilifeform: good example.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: consider how phuctor decided which numbers are 'completely' phuctored , to begin with
asciilifeform: nope, and the complete barrett is unreleased , it is not up to releasable standard yet
asciilifeform: this is tricky business because i changed a great many things, ch1-3 is in many ways incompatible with the old item
asciilifeform: i like mplayer . 0 idjit windowisms, 'decorations' etc
asciilifeform: and that looks like a fork of ye olde mplayer
asciilifeform: there is occasional competent guild impostor , e.g. the fella who was jailed after decade of flying commercial jets with forged license , name presently escapesme
asciilifeform: recall the 'police detective may not entertain hypothesis of miraculous disappearance when confronted with empty safe' ?
asciilifeform: ww2 and after, grantola, explosion of (per kuhn) 'ordinary science' i.e. stamp collecting, is what did it
asciilifeform: people-stuck-actually-implementing-clocks perception.
asciilifeform: and if you merely long for the days of 8 hour compiles -- will luvv large fpga wurk.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752724 << unlike walking in fresh air, washing dishes by hand has 0 whatsoever to recommend it. it's busywork, plain and simple, like ru recruits painting snow white and grass green.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752726 << the part i dunget is , why is the '1 fork' scenario contemplated at all ? are washing machines a waste because 'whole cubometre, you say, for 1 sock' ? for instance asciilifeform has 0 problem filling regular-sized dishwasher in <1day , and that's with 3 meals and a crew of only 2 .
asciilifeform: say, 'tards who need caretakers/gasenwagen', 'tards who need tard trainers, can be made employable', 'normal folx', 'people worth teaching booklearningz'
asciilifeform: ( specifically how -- i do not know. but entire case is notable because , unlike typical academitard, fella was known to have balls , and successfully fired said balls even on 1 occasion. but he was not mp, worked for a living, eventually defeated. )
asciilifeform: ilkka kokkarinen ( http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ilkka.txt ! ) , censored and defrocked-for-failing-to-usgkowtow comp sci professor , described this at some point
asciilifeform: nobody's passed out exemptions from this.
asciilifeform: scale model of empire
asciilifeform: i.e. empire ( unless martians were to drop food... )
asciilifeform: it can only happen when empire -- just like can't have a chernobyl before discovering fission
asciilifeform: ( ada params are a moar complicated matter than ffa might suggest: when reading heathen proggies you will encounter such things as 'aliased' i.e. pointerola , and related items. )
asciilifeform: http://media.informpskov.ru/pictures/20101028114604.jpg << example ( ours was considerably larger, iirc )
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf plox to intern http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpi/ffa_ch1_genesis.vpatch.benvulpes.sig
asciilifeform: incidentally http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752302 is worth expanding on : it is impossible to implement Ada.Command_Line sanely (i.e. without using secondary stack.) the reason is that argv is a potential 'infinity' -- it contains an uncapped number of c-strings of uncapped ( as are all c-strings ) length.
asciilifeform sat down and tried to think of something good to say about it, 'at least it ships with compiler' then remembered that.. it doesn't, not after jobs died
asciilifeform: i fully expect that attempts to 'fix' the 'bugs' will continue. ( which bugs? e.g. the 'bug' where bitcoin actually works; the one where it dun belong to the moxies and boecks, i.e. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-05#1637750 ; the 'bug' where it doesn't need to ask for permission from them to work ; etc )
asciilifeform: ( funnily enough, the particular variant of nonsense from above link is not at all new, but sat on shelves for decades -- 'electric money' schemes that relied on 'unbreakable tamperproof hardware' crapola were proposed -- and laughed off -- in 1990s )
asciilifeform: 'the defendant attempted to leave the United States and travel to Syria' << ohnoez, republikflucht!
asciilifeform: shinohai: pretty sure the shannonizer gets rerun ~monthly, last 2 were completely different from this link's, and from one another
asciilifeform: ( trb-genesis, for better or worse, was a plain cut of the original material. ended up preserving the idiocy of empty file. )
asciilifeform: observe that in e.g. ffa , used nonempty placeholders.
asciilifeform: and pretends that empty dirs don't matter, but somehow a dir that is empty BUT for 1 emptyfile -- is nonempty.
asciilifeform: whereas if you want to be able to compactly represent ~arbitrary transforms of text and of dirs, you end up with something like sed on top of a... text representation of a tar ?
asciilifeform: phf: consider posting example ?
asciilifeform: incidentally if mircea_popescu wanted to go 'whole hog' re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751589 , could even throw out asciilifeform's mpi and make new one from the source material. see if it ends up same, possibly find new cuts.
asciilifeform: vga card + pirate hf amp -- transmit.
asciilifeform: also oughta satisfy mircea_popescu's 'there was 1 genesis' item. because under phf's unification, there in fact ~was~ , created an empty universe with a 'bitcoin' dir.
asciilifeform: ( both demonstrated in the example. )
asciilifeform: though i'll admit that i personally dun get the fixation with moving mpi to being a subdir of $newproj.
asciilifeform: at any rate it oughta be obvious what the illustration does simply from naked eye reading.
asciilifeform: now let's come back to my much earlier pill, which i suggested in the mircea_popescu thread. which is imho even uglier. in that one, diana_coman would have to introduce the three mpi-ism vpatches comprising her working set, as ~files~ into eucrypt. and a sed script, and a vtron invocation, into her eucrypt makefile.
asciilifeform: phf: given example works with my vtron, oughta equally work with mod6's. and does the job (both from vtronic genealogy pov, and gnumake's -- the latter (see the makefile of my faux 'eucrypt') recurses updir ) the 1 down-side is aesthetics.
asciilifeform: it's not eucrypt, of course, but the helloworld i originally included in mpi . but shows what i meant above.
asciilifeform: 1s, almost done with example
asciilifeform: i.e. why can't 'eucrypt' be a ~sibling~ dir to 'mpi'
asciilifeform: it isn't required for the linker, nor for maintaining v-lineage ( the latter works just as well if diana_coman were to simply add a comment to 1 or more items in mpi dir , that 'this is nao part of eucrypt' )
asciilifeform: i'm making an example, brb
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: complete unit typically costs tenbux or so
asciilifeform: will emphasize, nobody should sign unless fully ready to say ' i know for a fact that this piece works, would jump with the parachute '
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1751237 << aha, and to think about the various symptoms individually, is rather like thinking of each individual fractured bone in d00d dropped from a skyscraper, as separate injury
asciilifeform: and not contemplated as continuous cycle. but waste disposal of existing.
asciilifeform: corn yes. ready 0cost sacks of fat -- not comparable
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1751235 << this applies across the board. ( as amply observed by mircea_popescu and others ). and the males dun even have the 'retreat into biology' option.
asciilifeform: ( examples. )
asciilifeform: however the champion's crown for (possibly) ultimate hilarious false-cognate lang sibling to ru is not ro
asciilifeform: i actually wish , in retrospect, that i'd had an extra year of saw, hammer, before comp.
asciilifeform: you'd think not much. but can even more readily learn 'reality has a shape and a resistance-of-medium objectively' than with comp.
asciilifeform: re tools, asciilifeform was given saws, nails, hammers, then wires, diodes, etc long before comp
asciilifeform: it is to this day my belief that a comp that dun fit-in-kid-head is broken by design.
asciilifeform: phf: naturally same computer.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one of asciilifeform's persistent crackpotteries, is to reforge this sword. i.e. make comp that fits in kid head .
asciilifeform: to revisit the micros : it is interesting that NOBODY today makes a comp of any description that presents the eye with a programmable prompt immediately on power up.
asciilifeform: and costing moar than the comp as well.
asciilifeform: the one infamous for faster cpu than the comp it connected to
asciilifeform: and much of the 'formative' aspect was precisely the romtronic prompt
asciilifeform: thing is, 80s micros had the rom basic. so cassette was really optional, could enter simple gamez from paper, if wholly starved for 'sneakernet'
asciilifeform: commodore stood up to comparison with e.g. nintendo.
asciilifeform: lol rly will compare ipadistry to good ol' proper gamez ??
asciilifeform never saw a colour comp display until usa
asciilifeform: you could know that a proggy used this method if you tried to run it on a comp with piezo beeper: would sound like rubbish
asciilifeform: afaik no sound decompressor worked worth half a shit on 386 and pre
asciilifeform: j gave the impression of longing for his one troo motherland, france-with-platinum-creditcard-on-expenseaccount
asciilifeform at one time took a stab at reading jefferson, to try to find out what specifically the man subscribed to. but walked away with picture 'was simply prolix d00d who couldn't manage his 'creditcard', nuffintowritehomeabout'
asciilifeform: i have yet to meet, i think, a d00d worth half a shit on a comp , who didn't grow up with a 8bit micro
asciilifeform: phf: lol, remember 'computernarcotic' ?
asciilifeform: 'Warren Buffett has said that the moment one was born in the United States or another Western country, that person has essentially won a lottery. If someone is born a U.S. citizen, he or she enjoys a huge advantage in almost every aspect of life, including expected wealth, education, health care, environment, safety, etc., when compared to someone born in developing countries. For someone foreign to “purchase” these privileges, t
asciilifeform: 'Eventually I was able to meet the chief financial officer of my favorite company, Costco. He told me that they don’t hire any MBAs. Everyone starts by pushing trolleys. (I have seriously thought about doing just that. But my wife is strongly against it.) Maybe, I thought, that is why the company is so successful—no MBAs!'
asciilifeform: 'We talked about microaggressions and feelings and empathy and listening. Sometimes in class the professor would say things to me like “Puzhong, when Mary said that, I could see you were really feeling something,” or “Puzhong, I could see in your eyes that Peter’s story affected you.” And I would tell them I didn’t feel anything. I was quite confused.' << lol
asciilifeform: incidentally afaik in every major arson fire, stampede killed moar than smoke/flame
asciilifeform: one could easily fill a thick book with these. ( in 1970s someone ~did~, but usg unhappened it and composed 'anarchist cookbook' full of items optimized to kill user )
asciilifeform: ( as in, chix went to break heads on own power, with 0 prompting )
asciilifeform: i'm still not convinced that spamism is anything but 'fat-powered' item . likely, the chumpers dun have a hundy between them, collectively
asciilifeform: i imagine 1 simple litmus would be to learn whether d00d in the end did buy a crapple.
asciilifeform: but compared with current wordprocessor folx, betcha d00d knew some elementary grammar, say.
asciilifeform: ftr supposed 'fpga' with built-in periphs are simply proprietary gluetraps.
asciilifeform: ( you wouldn't call an 'implementation' of e.g. ppc cpu that simply uses xilinx 'virtex' series' built-in ppc core, an implementation. apply same rule to pci.)
asciilifeform: but meanwhile-er, in not-at-all-noose, asciilifeform briefly looked into the question of what-would-it-take to make a pci-e FG . found ( e.g. https://archive.is/dGtBI and elsewhere, for the curious ) that it is quite impossible to do with lattice 'ice' or any other small fpga; the complexity is bookcase-length ( supposing one could even ~get~ the req'd docs, many are not only payware but protected via disinfo-flooding )
asciilifeform: Obama White House tweeted out his earliest tweets, however, conveying the false impression that signing up was easy ...'
asciilifeform: 'He also unwittingly became caught up in the news in 2013 when he attempted to sign up for health insurance on HealthCare.gov, the then-new website for Obamacare. He described the experience in a series of tweets, noting at first that he was successful in setting up an account. But then he ran into problems in completing the sign up, mirroring the experience of millions of users, who faced glitches in the site’s earliest days. The
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in trilemalottery, http://trilema.com/2014/the-complexity-of-life-a-triad/#comment-123868
asciilifeform: i mean it is also expensive compared to children's tricycle. but how about comparing similar items..
asciilifeform: izabera: i gotta bite : compared to what ?
asciilifeform: ty TomServo , https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15887475 has a little ball of lulz already, complete with card-carrying ninjashotgunner,
asciilifeform: for mul, pretty simple, time the interval needed for e.g. million 0x0 mulls vs million maxint x maxint ( and a few other patterns )
asciilifeform: of course W_ZeroP only works the way it does because compilers are sad , in turn because people were idiots in 1970s and did not shoot the wreckers who so much as suggested to call a thing without overlow and zero flags, a cpu
asciilifeform: and meanwhile yet another 'last 7 yrs!111' led lamp sputters, dies, in asciilifeform's machineroom.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: point being, there is also a castrated employed hipster crowd, and every other combinatoric arrangement of these also.
asciilifeform: ( today it is given to approx. 'blackest, femalest, queerest' etc victimolympiad medalist )
asciilifeform: at some point one will need a sort of proxy simply to read heathenwww on anything like human os/iron
asciilifeform: ( in the places to which they'd even contemplate, that is, going )
asciilifeform: 'Cryptocurrency’s rise not a serious risk, Trump adviser says' << lol!!
asciilifeform: and there's nothing outrageous or even remarkable about not publishing something, asciilifeform dun publish and dun intend to 99.999..% of his various attempts, folx routinely make cake of arbitrarily good quality to eat by themselves, whatever.
asciilifeform: i read 'ukr chickie dun wanna costa rica' as 'import pet', possibly.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: subjectively folx tend to 'feel' climate not as the avg. temps, but the extremes, i suspect
asciilifeform: room temp is very muchly a subject of taste, neh
asciilifeform: what means 'standard human temp' ? 36.6 ? if mircea_popescu walked into a room at 36.6 he would say 'sauna', betcha
asciilifeform: in usa, ( at least for plebes and on paper, actual practice is moar complicated ) vendors are saddled with the fraud cost.
asciilifeform: sails out with full uteri, back -- empties
asciilifeform: 'Heidemarie Stefanyshyn-Piper es capitán de la Armada norteamericana, ingeniero, y por dos veces parte de la tripulación de misiones del Shuttle. Pero Heidemarie no es famosa por poseer este impresionante currículo. Lo es por haber perdido una bolsa de herramientas en la misión STS-126 y por haberse desmayado dos veces en la rueda de prensa que dio la tripulación del STS-115 (su primera misión) nada más aterrizar.'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-07#1748319 << i dunno what exactly a gox with an empty btc tank looks like, but i suspect it looks not unlike today's shitfinex
asciilifeform: at any rate, removal of picassos / particle accelerators / similar from a failing inca empire is a specialist's work
asciilifeform: other goxes ( e.g. shitstamp ) having... technical difficulties
asciilifeform: i do regret having used name 'sane-mpi', there is very little sane about it except strictly in contrast with the original material
asciilifeform: asciilifeform complained repeatedly about this from aug 2015 and onward.
asciilifeform: she can. i simply just nao thought of it, lol.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, diana_coman if every single patch you release is a genesis ( i.e. previously existing items are lifted with paste ) then you may as well simply publish signed tarballs, you are not actually using v
asciilifeform: naturally if yer simply gonna unzip and piss over the vtronic aspect where nobody has to hand-diff 300kB of liquishit -- then yes you dun have 2 genesis.
asciilifeform: i'ma make a small cartoon example, brb
asciilifeform: the important aspect is to avoid the mistake asciilifeform made early on in vtronic era, with 'tinyscheme' proggy
asciilifeform: it means that you simply lift the code from the press.
asciilifeform: ( what was asciilifeform going to do with mpi ? there was plan, for 1 further cut, of the logger and the allocator. but i put it in cold storage when began work on ffa . )
asciilifeform: ftr i have no intention of amending mpi myself . if at some time i discover a new kochism therein, i will vdiff against diana_coman's mpi-containing entity
asciilifeform: the other is to preserve the two lineages as separate, but to link your item against e.g. mpi.a , and to insert the latter's hash into your vtree, to proclaim the linkage -- as i did with the binariola schematic jpegs in FG genesis.
asciilifeform: there are fundamentally 2 ways to go about using a vtronic item as a component in another. one is to subsume it into your own
asciilifeform: diana_coman: in the contemplated example, are eucrypt/mpi and eucrypt/serpent plug-in alternatives for each other ?
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu dun even use money for anyffing, he simply telekinesiates objects into existence...
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in gox world, 'TOKYO (AP) — A bitcoin mining company in Slovenia has been hacked for the possible theft of tens of millions of dollars, just days before the virtual currency, which hit a record above $15,000 on Thursday, is due to start trading on major U.S. exchanges. ... address referred to by NiceHash users indicates that about 4,700 bitcoins had been stolen'
asciilifeform: if there isn't 'mpi' in each -- your patch is off
asciilifeform: diff/patch is not insensitive to directory structure, or it could not handle dirs at all. in original we have 'a/mpi/bin/README', in yours there is instead 'a/bin/README'.
asciilifeform: you stripped the dir 'mpi' when you made your diff
asciilifeform: and not the ancient timestamp-shitting one
asciilifeform: this lack of formal relationship, Edwards has espoused views consistent with those associated with the Klan and, equally as important, he has repeatedly and publicly embraced several individuals who are strongly associated with the Klan. Mindful of Aesop's lesson, “A man is known by the company he keeps,” 1 we hold that Edwards cannot make claims of defamation or invasion of privacy and affirm summary disposition in favor of defe
asciilifeform: 'The Restatement (Second) of Torts § 559 lists “membership in the Ku Klux Klan” as the quintessential illustration of a defamatory statement. In an opinion piece in The Detroit News, columnist Bankole Thompson asserted that radio show host James Edwards is a “leader” of the Ku Klux Klan. There is no record evidence to suggest that Edwards holds a formal leadership position in the Ku Klux Klan, nor is there any record evidence
asciilifeform: elsewhere in subtle bugs, http://trilema.com/2017/3-idiots-in-preference-of-saying-indians-are-cognitively-impaired-for-reason-of-genetic-inferiority/#comment-123826
asciilifeform: the genesis contained the clearsig. this did not choke vdiff, it ended up on the right side of a genuine +++ , there was no symptom of problem.
asciilifeform: cab965c726b50f98e3d74a1be4b119dcf65c9900749d33707525c94c1432b855f2e3d39043a4fbb9d907fe3853242fccd773017a2d3763bdd76fbc9a6f6a01dd mpi_second_cut.vpatch.asciilifeform.sig
asciilifeform: b05ca401ecfe3f5bfa8794377241db12f5dc302fc552075ab3c78e7379b5b6a838af6d37d725798556cb27bc57213c388c92fa9b06f2e9233264b3ea8f89824f mpi-genesis.vpatch.asciilifeform.sig
asciilifeform: fba9ea0ece4c138f9510f20a91942dde57ca2273da2ee776004dc2404dbdf815283b05aa2487689c13043882ce65a09a2a9ef33bde444b4a9fedc5971fdf8a3a mpi_second_cut.vpatch
asciilifeform: fa32a27b8ac0753d6052abd37f56df545490315c3019ab0c9e695543f1f14b6bf70aba29a88982eea82a1e8c4a112e6cb9d4e4553062a977bb0bac38ddd91981 mpi-genesis.vpatch
asciilifeform: i will point out that the mpi genesis was created in oct. of 2015, when v was 2 mo. old.
asciilifeform: phf: classical v does not touch these or attempt to use'em for anything.
asciilifeform: i'm also allears re: what a Properly Made vdiff oughta do. 'replace with ===' is not an answer, it simply creates a new magic death word, ===.
asciilifeform: i recall a similar boojum in my 1st attempt at the FG release, that time it was a '+++' inside a uuencoded blob
asciilifeform: considering that i made the new genesis by pressing and re-vdiffing, there should be no differences aside from the timestamp cut.
asciilifeform: the issue is as fixed as it gets. i posted the grep item as example of how to verify, without even a vtron, that nothing has been slipped in from under the table.
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpi/mpi-genesis.vpatch http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpi/mpi-genesis.vpatch.asciilifeform.sig for the l0gz.
asciilifeform: grep "+++" mpi-genesis.vpatch | cut -f3 -d' ' | sort > happy.txt
asciilifeform: grep "+++" mpi-genesis.vdiff | cut -f5 -d' ' | sort > sad.txt
asciilifeform: i recommend other folx to look at their vdiff, and see that it does not suffer from timestampism.
asciilifeform: mod6's is actually correct, though i'd prefer it barf loudly and with pomp, rather than silently.
asciilifeform: it doesn't press because vtron chokes on the timestamps.
asciilifeform: that included timestamps
asciilifeform: it contains simply a press
asciilifeform: mpi-genesis.vpatch (asciilifeform)
asciilifeform: mpi_second_cut.vpatch (asciilifeform)
asciilifeform: ./v.pl a mpi_second_cut.vpatch
asciilifeform: ./v.pl d mpi-genesis.vpatch returns nothing
asciilifeform: still fails to recognize that mpi_second_cut.vpatch exists
asciilifeform: mv patches/mpi-genesis.vdiff patches/mpi-genesis.vpatch ; mv .seals/mpi-genesis.asciilifeform.sig .seals/mpi-genesis.vpatch.asciilifeform.sig
asciilifeform: my mpi genesis had 'vdiff'
asciilifeform: sha512(mpi_second_cut.vpatch.asciilifeform.sig) : 7b14150fd5100dc90f7130a491214fceda5984fdad20491487d45727c4be88885dc9d9245e7f1bee30fa236e1e774e03f6cba8f34ccc4508eaed0df53af329a0
asciilifeform: fwiw sha512(mpi_second_cut.vpatch) : 594052a750c3ab2ad16bbd73c578df9d99a98cc9811e6537e452dc2386b58c24555918e8d02e9e8d35c25808ac31a10babf0614e2d647afdf4f58b38059af118
asciilifeform: pretty strange, mine and phf's vtrons ate it up without complaint, e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=mpi
asciilifeform: certainly not chumpatron that soldiers right-along as ever before, without even oil changes.
asciilifeform: or the recording for playing of whatever grunting noises through the speaker (which is really simply a specialized program)
asciilifeform: whether we are discussing a rsagram, or the decompression of a pr0nbitmap.
asciilifeform: ( otherwise it would be trivially impossible to limit cycles )
asciilifeform: to briefly revisit http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1747134 : a 'p' proggy can ~produce~ , as output, another such proggy, simply by printing characters. but, pointedly, CANNOT demand to execute it.
asciilifeform: ( i have not tried intel's, simply cannot bring myself to buy. but tried afaik every major other . )
asciilifeform: they're quarter-TBs , such as are sold for industrial temps, '10yr warranty' ( to this day i have nfi how one might go about claiming warranty on a hdd , but we digress ) etc
asciilifeform: there is a forth-style decrementvariable-and-jumpifnotzero.
asciilifeform: 'p' stack machine ( to be featured in last episode of ffa series ) is a demo of sane ( e.g. demonstrably-correct and bounded , yet usefully complete operator set ) code execution.
asciilifeform: also notably, mircea_popescu , yer trb box was the champ medallist, outlived even dulap.
asciilifeform: actually reversing hand-asm is a royal bitch compared to gcc or even vs output
asciilifeform: was iirc surprisingly compact.
asciilifeform: i simply dun fully buy into the 'gnarly source is exactly same level of retardation as straight microshitization'. it isn't quite same thing.
asciilifeform: 'open' contemplated above is the very basic 1990s sense, where 'can i take source, and build for my mips r4000' etc.
asciilifeform: this is sadly an instance of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-02#1745589 , apeloyee : if i can't compactly mark the carry-in and/or carry-out as unreferenced , the compiler shits forth unusably slow bin.
asciilifeform: ( declared warmism permanently cemented orlov into this company , as typical clitler voter, the other major warmist demographic, tends not to read collapse bl0gz )
asciilifeform: apparently no concentration camps until 12000.00 , is the orlolidea.
asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/GF20z/?raw=true << asciilifeform's comment, preserved in amber, given as orlol has a 5+ yr habit of deleting ideologically impure
asciilifeform: lopers would then have to bring their architecture into compliance or risk prosecution for noncompliance. '
asciilifeform: and for the gold medal, 'Worse yet, if a government decides that Bitcoin is its friend, it can ask, nicely at first, that all Bitcoin transactions be disclosed to it in a timely manner, complete with the tax ID of the party at each end of every transaction. This would be a clever way for a government to shift to using digital cash without having to pay for any of it. All it would have to do is order “compliance”; Bitcoin’s deve
asciilifeform: 'if some government decides that Bitcoin is not its friend, it can simply ask you, nicely at first, to relinquish your cyberwallet to it. I doubt that too many of the Saudi princes that were recently disencumbered of much of their net worth while being tortured by Prince Mohammed bin Salman at the Ritz-Carlton in Riyadh ended up playing coy '
asciilifeform: representative sample, 'bloodsucking bankers and governments are unlikely to be defeated by an algorithm, no matter how clever, because they use far less technical means to enforce their interests: security agencies, criminal investigators and prosecutors, tax auditors, courts and prisons'
asciilifeform: rather than burying it under the compounds
asciilifeform: i assumed was simply standard 'teutonic' capitalization, lol
asciilifeform: was vaguely implied that it was a worthy place
asciilifeform: ( lessee if i properly ate & shat, 'i do not consider myself a programmer, for i have another craft. let's say i am an amateur programmer. and yet though i am an amateur, i find myself having written tens of thou. of loc in this-here life. and at least a min of 10k loc for web. but wanna hear sumthing ? never have i created a security hole in any. never. do you suppose i simply had good luck ? possibly luck. or possibly i wrote the c
asciilifeform: noroc ? Poate ca am avut noroc. Sau poate ca am scris cod corect, e si asta o alternativa. A programa masini numerice nu este o activitate inductiva, nu ne jucam de-a programarea, nu facem chestii "sa vedem ce se intimpla". Programarea este o activitate deductiva ... '
asciilifeform: for bonus lulz ( was this intentional, mircea_popescu ? ) the example proggy, 'opera', is a closed turd
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/qbVyU << they have an artful cheat that pretends page simply never existed when archive.is reads it.
asciilifeform: https://www.calyxinstitute.org/about/advisory_panel << even moar 'win', includes for instance a 'Brian Snow joined the National Security Agency in 1971 where he became a cryptologic designer and security systems architect. Brian spent his first 20 years at NSA doing and directing research that developed cryptographic components and secure systems. ...'
asciilifeform: 'Kobi Snitz ... Early in his undergraduate studies in the early 1990's, Kobi has been introduced to the fundamental questions of computer science. These range from questions of computability and the future of computing to questions about computers and society'
asciilifeform: featuring such honeytraps as a 'Encrypted Internet Peering Project' , 'Secure Broadband Research Testbed' , 'Security & Privacy Focused Mobile Telephony Research' , 'XMPP End-to-End Encryption Standards Development' , etc