asciilifeform: meanwhile, asciilifeform's pet volunteered a similar/popular engl example, 'the hookers hitler and stalin walked into the room'
asciilifeform: ( for non-ru folx -- traditional grammar school example of why gotta have correct punctuation, 'execute cannot spare' , toggleable opposite meanings with comma . anybody know of an engl-compatible version ? )
asciilifeform: 'Discussion regarding article about apple and amazon denied that Chinese spies implemented backdoor chips into hardware' << uhm, 'казнить нельзя помиловать'
asciilifeform: even from existing gnu liquishit, it is fairly easy, turns out, to remove ( e.g. as i did with the mpi that diana_coman made into the 1st half of eucrypt )
asciilifeform: trinque: was contemplating vtronic mechanism here, rather than 'cute' rename of the old emerge
asciilifeform: ( either its deletion, or its insertion -- therefore impossible to encode the contents of that tar, as a genesis )
asciilifeform: even setting aside 'if phf made mistake', it is not physically impossible for bit to flip on his hdd at the moment of signing regrind.
asciilifeform: reread is great, but it is important for the work to actually be ~cumulative~
asciilifeform: simple : that if i find that it doesn't work quite same as previous, i nao have to consider hypothesis that phf made a mistake.
asciilifeform: what state. simple mechanism, like pin.
asciilifeform: if it is actually same, this is trivially verified. but gotta have the simple mechanism there, rather than 'go write bash script'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: imho simpler. the folx in question were labouring under ye olde christian delusion, where 'errybody got a soul'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-06#1858800 << they switched the userland abi, but 2.4 continued to live ( i've found that i still have at least 1 device in service where not only 2.4, but 2.4 that post-dates the release of 2.6 ) for many years, as it was moar compact and suitable for small iron than 2.6 ( which had better support for e.g. smp , but overall hog vs 2.4 )
asciilifeform: http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/ipfrag.txt << related lulgem.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in vintage/classic lulz, http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/mobp/
asciilifeform: Mocky: fwiw i very rarely use tunnels as such, usually makes moar sense to simply use browser etc on the remote box via ordinary ssh
asciilifeform: for moar complex/auto-restarting example, see also http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-February/000252.html article
asciilifeform: i suspect there's something to the 'fractional distillation' hypothesis -- there's ample record of chinese emperors, officials, & their concubines, doing opium 'to amplify fuck', which as i understand is not compatible with morphinism as it is known to modern industrial dopeheads
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc ethanol extracts various impurities along with the desired oil; hence various liquid-gas exotica
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i was under impression that the 'cultured', oil-rich variant were tricker
asciilifeform: meanwhile in vintagetrilema lotto , http://trilema.com/2015/basic-bitcoin-competency-certification/
asciilifeform: diana_coman: https://www2.adacore.com/gap-static/GNAT_Book/html/rts/s-crc32__adb.htm << pretty simple, you can even lift and civilize
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plox to clarify what http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-09#1848940 was about, in this case. i was under the specific impression that auction of items other than ecu is forbidden in mircea_popescu's bot.
asciilifeform: Mocky: heh. sorta why i was orig reluctant to dig in & comment, i simply dun know enuff about the game mechanics
asciilifeform: ( one of those surprisingly long-lived chumpatrons )
asciilifeform: i suspect the cap was the 'easy' bug. y'know how when educated folx bug people, they give'em 2-3 'easies', a 'medium' to make the diggers feel 'accomplished' when the find, and the 'actual' bug somewhere entirely else.
asciilifeform: ( gotta dump those recycled crapples ~somewhere~...)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'hypatias' deal in turkeybux ( or , whatever the little termites, 'students', eat in place of turkey ), so perhaps not comparable with the imagibux traded on laughsdaq
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc tesla sux not because lacks 300hp ( iirc they had one with massive motor ) but because costs like 15 of mp's bmw
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i found out recently that uni lib's budget is nao something like 70-80% for 'electronic subscriptions'. meanwhile, 3 of 8 floors emptied of boox, and carrying on
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suspect that it won't 'kill credibility' , it is impossible to kill what's been dead since orig sokal (at the very least!) -- but still lulzy
asciilifeform: mod6: example: 'dear herr editor at volkischer beobachter: you have been misinformed by your sources re the subject of bitcoin. the client maintained by gavin et al, known as 'core', currently offered at version x.x, and infamous for lethally compromising bugs, most recently [qntra link] , is not the definitive client but a work of malicious impostors ; the actual bitcoin client can be found at [tbf] , consists of x LOC (and decreasi
asciilifeform: orcs are doomed to 'discover' simple techs again & again, 4evah
asciilifeform: so not the same, in important aspect, as today's 'injection sites'
asciilifeform: ( pharmacologically also interesting : old-school opium 'smokers' ( wasn't actually smoked, it was sublimated in a device resembling today's 'crack pipe', and pretty 'high tech' procedure, look at photo of the kit some time ) -- the moar active components of the vegetable -- morphine & relateds -- didn't make it out of the pipe bowl, broke down, so theoretically the chinese were actually doing a somewhat different dope than today's j
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i was not able to discover a 'hard nope', but all of the attempts that answered, ended in this eggog
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i meant, would like to see hexdump of the packet itself
asciilifeform: $subj is not , of course, custom silicon, but is a heathenware switch where asciilifeform ripped out the internal ssd and emplaced hand-sewn kernel + 'pf'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: do you suppose you can reproduce this, with tcpdump going ?
asciilifeform: ^ the most complete thread re subj
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-03#1857577 << amiga's os was a pretty simple thing, rather closer to msdos 'init the iron & get the fuck out of the way' than to current-day items
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-03#1857575 << imho it would be difficult to find a worse example of 'if only could have lived, if not linux!' than beos ( at one point i was quite into archaeology of 'anyffing nonmicroshit', eagerly dug up vintage/'resurrected' pc os, but once actually got close to the things typically found that 'ugh, ~same shit, different bottle' )
asciilifeform: *compress
asciilifeform: sooo if anybody ( mircea_popescu ? diana_coman ? ) knows of some place that 1) isn't complete shit 2) doesn't have a trb noad living there yet -- plox to write in.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: for all i know he got head amputation.
asciilifeform: he refrained from importing world's 2nd gnarliest shitstack.
asciilifeform: ( and on top of this imported the worst gnarl from freebsd... )
asciilifeform: reminds me of 'reactos' ( another oddball 'man alone' item; believe or not : attempt to open sores re-create... winblowz )
asciilifeform: so in effect it's freebsd but with an oddball incompatible thing in place of x11
asciilifeform: the nic will simply insert a 0 octet
asciilifeform: aha! i dun hate mircea_popescu's algo because his name starts with m!111 i simply rtfm'd...
asciilifeform: 4096bit is 512byte, you're sending 1500 frame always, even if your nominal packet is 3bytes long. simply how ethernet worx.
asciilifeform: ( the serpent packets are constrained to simply multiples of 128 )
asciilifeform: rereading http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-02#1857215 -- if you actually gotta take 'new rsa key' from allcomers, and there is no way to have'em know a seekrit bitstring prior , then yes afaik it is impossible to do better than mircea_popescu's algo. ( it is unclear to me what's to prevent enemy from swamping your system with new acct requests and giving you 9000 TB of rsa keys to store, but possibly i missed a detail )
asciilifeform: once you have any substantial traffic density, it'll simply start dropping.
asciilifeform: ultimately it's diana_coman's proggy, not mine, i can only recommend. imho fixed packets make the coad 9000x simpler, and simplify crapola filtration also. but if diana_coman's application absolutely gotta vary the lengths, then do it..
asciilifeform: this is ok, stick'em on prior to emplacement
asciilifeform: even 20yrs in dumpster
asciilifeform: funnily enuff, the historical/trad ru кнут was considered 'proprietary tech', all examples were inventoried, and afaik none survived the 19th c prohibition on the whipping
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: emplace it at your earliest.
asciilifeform: ( some folx have FG, those will have 1 empty hole )
asciilifeform: phf: iirc damned things are even temperature-sensitive
asciilifeform: imho 'ideal' epaper gadget would simply have serial port and emulate vt100, and then could fit to anyffing at all.
asciilifeform: ( no known lcd worx worth half a shit in sunlight, unless one pumps sumthing like 50 watt into the backlight, and even then )
asciilifeform: it is imperfect approach, and unpleasantly reminiscent of how leporidae eat their grass. but i havent found substantially better algo.
asciilifeform: sometimes will actually find missed / improperly-digested nugget.
asciilifeform: ( or rather, is incompatible with 'no se fia' )
asciilifeform: the 'push' model of block propagation, is simply wrong.
asciilifeform: meanwhile in the trb observatory, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/cMfST/?raw=true << restarted zoolag, and confirms my earlier hypothesis -- 'bastards' from friendlies are simply when they throw their latest block blindly at each peer, without concern for who actually can eat it, and who cannot. shitoshi's shit protocol.
asciilifeform: Mocky et al: i'ma restart with timestamps, and from here on.
asciilifeform: sorta how yer house has a mains breaker that toggles whole panel, and not simply 50 individual breakers.
asciilifeform: simply to not open 9000 hoods, when can open 1.
asciilifeform: centralized logging actually has at least 1 known win -- i can dump all logs, or subset of'em, to tape printer
asciilifeform: tmp is not reliably kept.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856495 << at some point gotta explain why the sultans with boys built empire, and the fella with roxy, pushed it off cliff
asciilifeform: but upstack, pretty sure i grasp the point re contracts, they are not substitute for actual cohesion , and anyone who tries to substitute , ends up with obummer's empire, yes
asciilifeform: but perhaps moar complicated, asciilifeform is not expert turkist.
asciilifeform: was thinking of janissary corps , i.e. 'ss'/leibstandarte, rather than empire as whole
asciilifeform: was simply curious re whether the other participants (incl. new ones, potentially hanbot) see the thing through same lens as asciilifeform , or not.
asciilifeform: even if this turns out to be impossible.
asciilifeform: physics, imho, has failed, i.e. accepted eternally snowballing complexity liquishit in place of unifications ( 9000 threads.. )
asciilifeform: physicist, who ~must~ look for a simpler equation that in fact may not exist; surgeon who must operate on the possibly-hopeless pre-corpse; detective, who must look for a robber who for all he knows maybe teleported; etc
asciilifeform: there's all kindsa people whose entirely legit duty is to attempt, continuously, the possibly-impossible.
asciilifeform: i'm sympathetic to the scandinavian view -- yes, world will perish in fire and ice, nothing is 4evah, etc. but doesn't excuse surrender.
asciilifeform: as i observed just today and on 9000 occasions, even the simple thing of 'why can a trb node be 100 blox behind a fellow trb peer' is not yet licked
asciilifeform: my contention was simply that oddball extensions of the mission ought not to subtract from the traditional mission, is all.
asciilifeform: i suppose. simply can't picture yet , what might fit under this .
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856296 << i gotta admit that i dun see point in 'growth for growth's sake'. there was already prb 'foundation' for ~that~. tbf is for maintaining & improving (constructively! there's plenty of actual ills to cure, that dun reduce to 'not enuff heathen notoriety' ) trb.
asciilifeform: imho oughta exist at the very least as optional jumper.
asciilifeform: incidentally, does anyone remember wtf happened to the 'log timestamps' patch for trb ? who wrote it, and how come it never made it into the flagship tree ?
asciilifeform: then again there is the simpler explanation : that it only gets asked on connect, and our connectivity is good enuff that this happens rarely.
asciilifeform: ( personally i'd rather not trumpet 'oh he unsheaths key erry morning at 6', it tempts the white van. but mebbe justme)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1856140 << while i get mircea_popescu's angle of 'linus quisling, was always quisling then' , imho moar complicated, d00d did keep systemdism etc out of the kernel for 20yrs, somehow.
asciilifeform: phunphakt, it isn't even related to the infamous at&t monopoly, it is the thing formerly called 'cingular' in '90s, they simply purchased the trade name
asciilifeform: i thought that one 'fair and square' swindled its phortune out of moneyed chumpers
asciilifeform: i dunno who then best example in the circuses i'm familiar with
asciilifeform: ( my eventual aim there is to attempt a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-29#1855574 )
asciilifeform: Mocky, for instance, is a very compact but quite competent fella. ( but mircea_popescu already snapped him up for a diff proj )
asciilifeform: and i suppose if other l1 similarly imprisoned but cheaper to ransom than asciilifeform , could potentially make effect
asciilifeform: right nao we only have blox because chinese d00dz i've never heard of, and dun expect to, run ~trb-compat proggies. i've nfi if trb per se helps this state of affairs to continue, but for so long as it continues, oughta at least not interfere, imho.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: as for 'premium' noad access, recall how the mircea_popescu 'trbi' thread was born. ( classical btc offers no sweet pill for how to reward node operators. any attempt to charge for 'gets mined faster' inevitably reduces to a game the miners can themselves win, cutting out middlemen )
asciilifeform: to date i haven't conceived of how to make trb into a subscription service ( my 1 attempt at the problem was the 'wires' item ) but this should not discourage others
asciilifeform: and i was under impression that this was declared done
asciilifeform: for nao -- simply log'em.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty sure their actual objective was simply to herd the remaining folx who can't entirely get away from emailism, into the google/microshit corrals
asciilifeform: Mocky: in the past i attempted a fpga rsa also. sadly the 'ice40' would need to be about 250x bigger, for it to be bakeable
asciilifeform: this is a temporary peace.
asciilifeform: fragola makes this impossible in principle, you gotta stow N frags to get any sense of whether the full packet is friend or foe
asciilifeform: i for one would rather have no frag reassembly at all if writing ip stack. not only b/c complexity but also this.
asciilifeform: which not only complicates ip stack ( for when we write one ) but opens up to ddosability ( frags are take-it-or-leave-it, they dun even carry the port # )
asciilifeform: but ftr i released complete kit with orig v, not half thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: just nao -- muscle-powered v a la diana_coman . this weekend would like to reword v.py to run on phf's components.
asciilifeform: 'Note that the sender will send each size of package *only once* and it will simply finish once it sent one package of each size' << aaah
asciilifeform: going by the current empirical test, however, a packet that frags into 2 or even 3, typically goes. tho it remains to be seen whether they start falling down once you saturate.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: built & emplaced your sender-receiver, it is running nao, asciilifeformistan <--> BingoBoingostan
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855107 << the proggy author's duty, and nobody can save him from it. fwiw i go roughly by size/complexity of orig draft.
asciilifeform: ( pretty thinly disguised attempt to get the dumber miners to 'upgrade' )
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform plowed through the phf-vtronics thread when came back from voyage, and then second time when diana_coman requested keccak regrind, and both times failed to converge to correct answ re 'is there complete keccak vtron' )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855075 << yea if i'd smoke-tested it earlier, would have found. on top of this, naively assumed that diana_coman has a working and complete keccaktronic v , given as she's moved smg to newform
asciilifeform: phf: imho your approach , i.e. dispensing with gnupatch, is The Right Thing, historically there was quite a bit of grief from gnupatch's habit of eagerly attempting to apply an invalid (by vtronic lights) but 'partially ok' by barbarian lights patch
asciilifeform: phf: makes sense. my frustration is from walking the logs for past 2 days and looking for who has the complete shaft+head hammer, and not finding
asciilifeform: phf: there is not currently a complete replacement for mod6 v.pl ! fact !
asciilifeform: and yes it is the picture i got from log. the gap in my head is where diana_coman switched to the new format; i then assumed there is a 100%-complete new vtron, and that 'hmm simply missed this, is in log somewhere' , turns out nope, notyet
asciilifeform: if phf's item came with a standalone keccak hasher , would then be quite simple to retool e.g. mod6's vtron, to follow the new format. but as it is loox like i'ma have to wait for esthlos , to get full working replacement for old vtrons
asciilifeform: so as i understand nobody has a 100% complete newtype vtron quite yet
asciilifeform: mod6: whose ~is~ it compat with ?!
asciilifeform: http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/v_noworky.tar.gz << the complete tarball with both variants, patches, seals, .wot, my attempt thus far.
asciilifeform: ideally i simply switch vtron to phf's and it's omnivorous.
asciilifeform: i'ma be quite impressed if he wrestles that crate from orchell
asciilifeform: eh amputations cheap.
asciilifeform: and wondered why they even keep their legs, could snip'em off, improve circulation...
asciilifeform: reminds me of a 1890s brit caricature i once saw, where 'esteemed gentleman's beagle has died, and he took it to 2 taxidermists...', one cheapskate, who offered him just skeleton with sock on it, other who used air pump, offered doglike baloon, with the phrase 'human strength can stuff it no further!' caption
asciilifeform: ( and lol was it that one where you gotta set lamp brightness while it boots )
asciilifeform: this was my impression as of this morning. and was also my impression that BingoBoingo went and danced the asked-for dance with the orcs, and thereafter eggog is to vanish. but turns out -- not.
asciilifeform: full text : 'Estimado: Me informa el despachante que se encuentra inhabilitado para importar por DINAMA. Agradezco una vez regularice la situación nos informe para procesar el permiso. Saludos cordiales.'
asciilifeform: 'configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables' << wat
asciilifeform: ( and there's megatonnes of shit iceberg beneath the tip, look some time at an actual implementation... )
asciilifeform: of course also got boxen pumping MB+/s to net, day an' night, and i ~like~ that they dun saturate the lan while so doing
asciilifeform: in fact, quite likely i'ma bake it as soon as mircea_popescu blows the trumpet and decrees that it's time.
asciilifeform: compiled
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wouldn't be opposed to at least attempting to backport 3.x driverola to 2.6
asciilifeform: any attempt to repair it simply creates a nsa.nobus imho
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i've found that it is normally impossible to explain any such thing to folx who operate in 'pig logic', i.e. 'would there be moar? or less?, slop in my trough?'
asciilifeform: then again we may already be in the midst of just such a thing, there's, what, ~20k distinct nodes operating, and overwhelming majority of these, are simply rubbish
asciilifeform: Mocky: recall the chains of empty/near-empty blox the chinese sometimes emit
asciilifeform: Mocky: the boojum is that mining in classical btc worx in such a way as to amplify small advantages into gigantic
asciilifeform: sanely-behaving nodes (both trb and hypothetical trb-compatible heathens, which exist, or we'd see 0 blox) ought to be able to find ~and keep~ each other company
asciilifeform: mod6: my main hesitation re the item is that it may be 'plugging wrong end of funnel', quite possibly no such gymnastics would be necessary if we simply had a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1853143 and always --addnode'd the actually useful nodes, rather than relying on pure chance
asciilifeform: the other item of interest, not mentioned, is that quite a few infrastructural routers will simply drop frags, for the reason that all but 1 frag of a fragged packet contain no copy of the source or destination port -- and thereby impossible to ddos-filter. so they drop'em.
asciilifeform: ~nobody, afaik, actually queues all udp frags, it is impractical in light of ddosism
asciilifeform: the other simple experiment, re fragging, is to set up the receiver on local host, and then on same-lan box
asciilifeform: diana_coman: tcpdump -i eth0 udp port YOURPORT -vv -X
asciilifeform: this is an open problem. but there are some pretty simple things that still need doin', e.g. pill for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1853265
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect, in these, simple cowardice, they aimt eager to move out of the mental universe where 'law and order' and into the lafond planet where earthly carcass actually finds itself
asciilifeform: Mocky: it isnt clear to me what sort of blackmail could compare with the surrender. say they put him in electric chair, for killing kennedy, what of it. see also http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852995 .
asciilifeform: Mocky: these used to be sold in comp-related shops errywhere
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's a 'diet pill' anyway ? is it simply euphemism for ??? synthetic dope 'not banned in usgreich yet'
asciilifeform: castration cult rose up in old europistan, french, spanish, tried to stomp it out, failed, y'know the rest
asciilifeform: ( quite likely even what got him nominated for woodchipper, i can't picture anybody on either side giving half a shit re umpteenth micro-cnc )
asciilifeform: or, moar recent example, the (gassed yet?) wilson d00d. apparently on top of the cnc thing, also made a 'hatreon', 'nazi' clone of patreon pantsuitism
asciilifeform: the fundamental lul is that it is impossible to explain to such patient exactly why money printer spilled forth tonnes of luscious green for his predecessor but doesn't want to for him
asciilifeform: ( did some shilling for 'new, exciting' trump, then saw what summed to and went to the bottle )
asciilifeform: dunno if that, or if simple failure of imagination, 'hmm, what text will folx read on a b&w lcd ? iknow, pediwikia'
asciilifeform: designer of 'reader' was pretty dumb in 1 way -- if he had made it simple to substitute in new text, thing could be best-seller to this day, imho
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and for all i know, perished aeons ago, i simply happened to walk the vintage l0g today
asciilifeform: whoknows, could be -- wanted chechen, but her compass was broken, lol
asciilifeform: i'm going from a very vintage brit b00k, with very flavourful examples, e.g. 'donkey is poor man's horse', 'i killed the man whose uncle killed my father', 'to be killed is the noblest death', etc in this spirit
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1852899 << ugh.. did they amputate ?
asciilifeform: after one such, one local poltroon even wrote pompous op-ed in local fishwrap, 'this fire is an opportunity for developers!'
asciilifeform: iirc there was a mircea_popescu piece, where 'socialism creates pools of moolah that harvesters show up out of nowhere to harvest'. examples abound, even in the very same uni, e.g. in asciilifeformistan they are demolishing ~entire town and building communal flats for students, and the developers pay ~20% of the actual cost, the rest they somehow pawned off on the state of md ( while developer eating 100% of the rent . somehow this m
asciilifeform: trinque: tbh i do not know if profit or not. but they structure the finance in such a way as to make the q ~impossible to answer from outside. which suggests 'not'.
asciilifeform: really the stringism routines ( which imho yes oughta be in a udp lib, they make it possible to write complete udpism proggy ) oughta be baked in native ada form..
asciilifeform: ( simple algo: you send a packet to 'adult' (i.e. pizarro) box, and it echoes your nat's external ephemeral port, and other folx can udp ~to~ that, while you keep it alive )
asciilifeform: 1 version going around tardosphere is that he didn't even escape, but regularly went to tw on biznis and simply happened to be marooned there when gassing time came
asciilifeform: technically asciilifeform was responsible for 'chicken' ( the procedure whereby mp's 0.5.3.tar.gz was transformed into genesis but if mircea_popescu is willing to answer for it, i have 0 prob, lol )
asciilifeform: or didja simply pick 1 for each.
asciilifeform: mod6: it loox to be superficially correct; tho how come genesis only shows mp's sig
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-21#1852575 << in moar ways than one. but this , was simply mindboggling, default is to slowly fill disk with eggogola , and guesswat, tail GB of it was... warnings of impending fulldisk!
asciilifeform: oh oh and let's not fughet : '... improved HTTPS proxying and fresh crypto jets.'
asciilifeform suspects that all usg 'confiscate errything' letterhead nao is perma-stamped 'child pr0n investigation'
asciilifeform: 'The warrant issued by a U.S. magistrate in Las Cruces, New Mexico, showed that on Sept. 14 agents removed from the man’s home three cell phones, five laptops, one iPad, an external hard drive, 16 thumb drives, 89 compact flash disks and other material' << notbad.jpg toybox for 'janitor under contract to clean the facility'
asciilifeform: spew is rubbish, if the contents are important you'll buffer'em
asciilifeform: 100 is typical company at arms, so i suspect that's where the estimate comes from
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'tower of chairs' item implies 'if only they'd open their third eye, would swim in cunt' hypothesis
asciilifeform: ( it was never clear to asciilifeform what the ro, baltic, ukr, etc anti-sov partizans were hoping to accomplish, beyond a good 1st class ticket to honourable valhalla. they could not have glued the world of 1939 back together, and given as they weren't redditards, prolly understood this. so i'm left with 'acted from cause not purpose'(tm)(r) and no better hypothesis. )
asciilifeform: neither shows symptoms of being any kind of 'man of letters' tho.
asciilifeform: mats: i suspect that the whole thing simply evaporated, as these tend to
asciilifeform: 'At 15, I wasn’t really up on my politics. I’d never seen any evidence of an impending United Nations takeover, but what did I know? I had, however, done a tour of duty in south Florida’s public schools where the teachers taught us guilt and self-hate, where drugs and violence were the norm. I no longer trusted the System. The Culture War that the Patriots spoke of was something I’d experienced first-hand. Unlike the Pentecos
asciilifeform: fwiw i have nfi whether it worked, but the fact that barrel is not part of the scheme means that no serious metallurgy needed, untempered steel worx ok for receiver
asciilifeform: ( none of which constitutes a mega-seekrit, any competent smith can make kalash. wilson's thing was different, n00b assembles 100% unpoliced cnc box, tabletop, from kit, and then loads in ingot and proggy )
asciilifeform: ww2 jp accomplished however a similarly improbable feat, with 50kg ~balloons~, which had simple 'music box' mechanism that only knew how to drop ballast and vent gas, so as to get into- and out- of current.
asciilifeform: ( exercise for reader : compute the minimal necessary counter-force that gyro in a 5kg bottle must exert , to eventually converge on destination... )
asciilifeform: champagne bottle.
asciilifeform: incidentally re 'salmon goes fast enuff if yer patient!11' item: in asciilifeform's crackpot files, there is a gedankenexperiment, simplest possible sea propulsion, with 0 exposure of moving parts to salt : picture hermetically sealed 'bottle' with... gyroscope
asciilifeform: there's at least 1 public example of a ~papier-mache item.
asciilifeform: ( the publicly exposed examples, iirc carried 2, 1 spare )
asciilifeform: would be interesting to at least compute what can be had from genset engine
asciilifeform: i'd describe this as 'open problem', rather than 'physical impossibility' tho. conceivably a material exists out of which can be made 50kg diesel.
asciilifeform can picture valves, and compressed air tank as 'buffer'
asciilifeform: initially worked on assumption that no mail at all.
asciilifeform: which complete kit oughta be able to follow the continuity of e.g. trb to day1.
asciilifeform: a new operator ( no , i dun think we've seen the last of new sane folx, tho mircea_popescu may disagree ) oughta be in possession of the complete kit when he sets up his vtron.
asciilifeform: srsly, exactly same logic as in existing vtron, with the exception of 'when hashing, try keccak 1st, then sha, THEN compare equality, if found to be the latter, warn user, and if sha not enabled, eggog'
asciilifeform: PeterL: as i currently understand : yes. but ideally this simple mechanism would be in the tool, rather than a http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-April/000296.html - style shell hack.
asciilifeform: simple enuff.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suspect that lulazon simply pockets that 62.18, and the orcs never see it; or alternatively, an orc pockets, off-record, and then pretends 'was 1 of 2 max free imports'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lemme know how it goes. this is 1st time i hear of any such thing re 'can only have 2 imports'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: entirely fair point. i simply dun have the new one in my workflow yet, is all
asciilifeform: ( observe that it is actually impossible to do the thing if both are inside nat )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the way i'd do the size shuffle, is to use a kindergarten prng (e.g. mersenne) for repeatable sequence, and put ~in~ the packets, a serial num. then simply record what comes out.
asciilifeform: can simply replace the bool param with a 'actualsize' one, for experiment
asciilifeform: i thought phf's was backwards-compat?
asciilifeform: iirc dubai has this system, it is used to keep the indian janitors from jumping ship
asciilifeform: ( maybe they were picked for toe-suckling amplitude..? )
asciilifeform: funnily enuff, as recently as '16 we briefly had a finn here, helped me ferret out the amd key thing, but went back into the allconsuming swamp, never heard from again
asciilifeform: ( by inserting a nAck, or simply timing it out, etc )
asciilifeform: sorta ugly, and not released, kept 'fleet in being' in case we gotta jump off fleanode ahead of schedule ( there isn't imho esp. much use for it outside of this )
asciilifeform: not adult gossipd, was simply proggy that eats a symmetric key and gives tunnel for, e.g., www, ftp, telnet, etc
asciilifeform: btw re http://ossasepia.com/2018/09/14/smgcomms-implementation-chapter-1/comment-page-1/#comment-4212 , observe that my proggy flips nuffin (aside from the ip/port that linux demands in bigend, and even then strictly when on littleendianistic box)
asciilifeform: there's also a missing restrict pragma in the lib, pragma Restrictions(No_Implicit_Conditionals) , took it out during dev (when experimented with to-string sans-callout ) and forgot to reinsert
asciilifeform: ultimately we'll have asmolade that simply drives the nic directly.
asciilifeform: btw if anybody can think of how to further simplify the api, asciilifeform is all ears
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'm not married to the c glue, and it'll eventually go. i am quite fond of my api tho, it completely rids user of having to think in unixisms , imho
asciilifeform: my orig application called for 'no frag', given as already luby, so why also have ??? in the mix ruining the impedance match
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect that he followed same method as described in his http://ave1.org/2018/gnat-zero-foot-print-take-2-no-c item ( which i suggested a long time ago ), simply take the calls & translate by hand into the linux abi convention
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it astonished me how folx were able to so elaborately break such a simple thing.
asciilifeform: so if your own coad is compatible with this form, can safely jettison the string glue
asciilifeform: diana_coman: imho that functionality belongs in a udp lib ( given as it demands knowledge of how ip is represented ) but prolly oughta be a troo ada thing, not a callout. however implementing it would double the mass of the proggy
asciilifeform: my approach to eggogology is same as to rest of unix liquishit -- when possible, imprison it, not bring out, so long as proggy behaves reasonably
asciilifeform: diana_coman: imho variable-length-datagram is for the birds. hence i jettisoned good bit of complexity by omitting it
asciilifeform: can freely experiment, simply turn the knob ( dun forget to turn it on both ends.. )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: observe, my lib is somewhat unorthodox, it tries to abstract entirely over the os socket, nails down a fixed packet length, ipv4 4evah, no 'nonblockisms' - who wants these, can implement via ada task; no dnsism supported at all, etc
asciilifeform: ( this is where it wins over simple 'moderated' chan with hand-curated people list )
asciilifeform: seems to me that items come in 'allcomers' and 'closed wot', and 'allcomers+bans' is simply recipe for whackamole
asciilifeform: what's their thing implemented in... befunge ?!
asciilifeform: helps to put current-day crapple into correct perspective. it is a creation of 1990s microshit ( massive dough infusion ), originally to defend against 'monopoly bust'. ended up revived as a replacement 'usg dept of kompyooting' as the original began to show signs of rust
asciilifeform: what was the virological term, when latent carrier begins to show symptoms
asciilifeform: simple physiological problem, really
asciilifeform: d00d tired of cleaning monkey shit, handed temple over to the monkeys.
asciilifeform: e.g. Foo(1 .. 3) := (others => 0) compiles into a memset(..., 0) ; Foo(1 .. 3) := Bar(5 .. 8) compiles into a memcpy . etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: memcpy is simply a multiword mov
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'defined' is the item that differs in asciilifeform's, in fact. i dispensed with ~90% of the knobs simply by going 'sockets are udp, that's it'. no tcpism, i.e. no accept() and the associated streamolade, no unix sockets with their weird, etc.
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform at least posted snippets of various incomplete strange , over the yrs )
asciilifeform: ave1: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-17#1850727 << neat idea, and in keeping with the libc-removal . for some reason feels 'heavy', tho, but i am resisting the temptation to try an' figure out why atm, i am in the process of wrapping up my own ( conventional ) sockets thing for release today
asciilifeform: sad, but i expected sooner rather than later. showed symptoms.
asciilifeform: simple enuff item, has small example harness, and eggog handling
asciilifeform: ( anybody lacking the secretsalt and currentkey, sees simply 512byte of rng )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the simplest way i thought of to finesse the reordering thing is simply to run synchronously ( i.e. at no point does sender send a new packet unless old one replied; if there's no reply, sender retries a certain # of times, and if still silence, declares the connection broken )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch11_tuning_and_api/tree/ffa/libffa/fz_io.adb#L59 << example of endian-insensitive routine.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: then you may want to wrap unix recv() as i described ( can use my mmap example )