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(trilema) gabriel_laddel: it won't work.. why?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: they don't have the same sensibilities, being a different people (*gasp*).
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: it seems to me that if the west would just fuck off and let China have Africa everything will go swimmingly.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ;; google chinese eat dogs, cats
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: what, the burning of the great library of Alexandria was just a blip?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: to say that "we" have not been set back is nonsense.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: On that timescale, sure. when it comes down to Schwartz and Stan having years of their lives wasted...
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: and here we are.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "You don't need to take my proposal seriously because it is so ridiculous that I am obviously completely out of touch with the real world. But that kite won't fly, for I know the real world only too well: the problems of the real world are primarily those you are left with when you refuse to apply their effective solutions. So, let us try again."
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I now have had my foggy crystal ball for quite a long time. Its predictions are invariably gloomy and usually correct, but I am quite used to that and they won't keep me from giving you a few suggestions, even if it is merely an exercise in futility whose only effect is to make you feel guilty."
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "So, if I look into my foggy crystal ball at the future of computing science education, I overwhelmingly see the depressing picture of "Business as usual". The universities will continue to lack the courage to teach hard science, they will continue to misguide the students, and each next stage of infantilization of the curriculum will be hailed as educational progress.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Yep. It takes a while for people to figure this out though - especially when there are the remnants of actual intellects (von n., ulam) hanging around.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ;; google Henry Kissinger "the battles are so vicious because the stakes are so small"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I've been having fantasies about WoT for academic matters. The ability to turn off an entire viewpoint in a graph-traversal. Ah.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: which is actually why I was reading it
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: I remember that a while ago you mentioned you lectured at local universities. Was this in Romania aor Argentina?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: !up ascii_field
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: Yep. Aggressive intelligence frightens the luddites(?) who have temporarily taken over.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: (allow me to retract "flip out" - they don't address any of the arguments, say that it pattern matches for 'crank'. I point out that this isn't an argument and that every sentence is clearly falsifiable. Conversation terminates.)
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I've given a few people links to PERUSING THE LIMITS OF FAILED SYMMETRY
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: understandably.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ascii_field: has complete set of Uncle Al? Worth every satoshi?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ;; google uncle al SPEED HEALS
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: (I googled "buffet manifest destiny")
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: t about this young man. His net worth of 607MM should say a lot to."
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "The intelligence level shifts because the experience level shifts. Warren speaks on his experience from 1930 – Jay is from a different culture and different time in history. His intelligence should be measured by the decisions that he makes, not by stories he tells of his previous environment. Just the fact that he is making the decision to surround himself with a mentor like warren buffet should tell you a lo
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ;; google sickboy's theory of life
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: It seems to me that again, the basic mechanism is the same. But then again, I wasn't there, and surely cannot comprehend the suit fetish in its full absurdity.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I had that quote in the scratch buffer right along with some others prior to posting in the chat. Did read.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Another interesting EWD for those who've not had the pleasure of reading Dijkstra: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD11xx/EWD1175.html
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: That class has grown considerably, right along with inflation.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: 's the same problem. Lack of contact with reality. Without a war or some such you'll have a class of people who revert to judging others by their suits/hoodies/lack of personality
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Hm. Seems to me that it
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "the tumor has grown"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: eh, not much has changed in the intervening years. s/moocs/knowledge-based decision aids
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: nah, he lived until into the 2ks iirc
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ssage that neither slogans like "knowledge-based decision aids", nor a combination of adhoccery and brute force will do the job. (It is regrettable that large groups only come to their senses after their day-dreams have turned into nightmares but, this being so, we should occasionally welcome the nightmares.)
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: And also for the American Universities the tide may be turning. Traditionally they have been asked to train the work-force for the American industry, while the question of educating the industry so as to be worthy of their graduates was left untouched. But, currently, companies in Silicon Valley seem to be folding up at a higher rate than they are erected. I consider that good news because it could drive home the me
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: kk. I should be discussing this in design documents anyways.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: t) rather than just a false positive. Again, I've never written C, and perhaps the ast is so complicated that it's actually impossible to get any useful information out of it, but my current experience suggests that having this ability is a good idea. Building something like `slime-who-calls' suddenly becomes simple.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Why might one want to see the C ast? Let's say that we've got a codebase like the linux kernel, or opengl drivers. You know that somewhere you've got some stuff that talks to the hardware, but grep returns false positives. You instead pull the ast into memory, query across it for the bits your looking for. False positives now indicate something about the language (i.e., that I don't understand it as well as I though
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: As for PGP, I'm assuming that I'm going to have to spend a decent amount of time with the codebase and reading the spec. Perhaps not.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: trinque: in any case, I hate everything about the browser.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: trinque: well, there is that too.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: modifying parenscript isn't terrible.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: trinque: Modifying clojurescript is god-awful.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "As for what language I'll be using on any given project, it will be determined entirely by what is correct for the project."
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: merely an aid.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: it, and nothing else will ever be a substitute for thought.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: I have some code now that converts javascript to parenscript
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I'm assuming, at least for now, that I'm going to have to /look/ at the current PGP sources (thus the C sexprast ). This has no bearing on what will be released other than - I will do what makes sense given the situation.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: Yes. Show me all structures that look like this. Pattern match against structures, rewrite them as so.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: You've never desired to query over a bunch of gnarly C code?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: Sorry, I was being less than clear - this is only for development.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: ?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: As for what language I'll be using on any given project, it will be determined entirely by what is correct for the project. If I hack something out in CL, but switch it over to C, I'll do that. If it makes sense to release a protopye that is hacked together C+CL+CFFI I'll do that. In any case, both of these come after getting the #b-a distro finished.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: My current plan for dealing with these projects: The haskell package Language.C.AST parses C99 entirely, taking into account all GCC extensions. I'm going to pay someone to add a sexpr backend to it so I can work it into my CL toolchain.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: cffi to bridge the two if needed, but only then.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: gossipd requires C. PGP, CL (at least, this is where I'd start).
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: thank you, this is what I wanted.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: CL + C when necessary.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: you had a alternate name for gossipd based on russian theater that had some relation to the nazis. I couldn't find the wiki article again, care to point me to it?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I'v M-x rembered (or something) the previous thread on the matter for when I return to it.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: as for now, I just want to have a clear idea of what the interface is, what the problems are etc.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: eventually, yes.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: " As far as I can tell, were one to extrapolate from the given information to a set of concrete requirements we see that NixOS plans to rewrite the build scripts for every version of every project on unix. Again, this is insane. The correct thing to do in this situation is to realize the utter impossibility of the task that has been set forth and re-evaluate one's approach.[1]" << [1] links to the quote previously d
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: as for puritanism, sure, not directed at me entirely.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: wtf is this, we're discussing a footnote in something I posted.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: (I don't parse that)
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: That said, I've had the experience several times of reading trilema or the logs, not immediately grokking it, returning a day later to have it all 'click'. I'm thinking that might happen here.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: eh, that was a footnote.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Hmm.. This is what I was attempting to communicate.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: the only reasonable basis for discussing such things is how much power they afford you
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: becuase of the "various subsidiary problems that fall away"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Perhaps that quote was misplaced.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: hoever it was, and I'm fairly sure I grok ASCII's plan and will be handling some intro documentation for it + figuring out how the PGP code needs to interface with it exactly.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: as for my id, I'm currently fixing <irritant to livelihood>. First chance I get I'm sitting down and sorting out the whole GPG thing. As it stands I was not particularly happy with the documentation it supplied and wasn't sure which parts I'd have to rewrite. My previous key got destroyed in a failed backup becuase I didn't spend enough time on it the first time around. Also, I don't think gossipd is happening via w
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: at some point you've just got to try something different.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: using regexes for that is something like... trying to impregnate a woman through her arse.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: yes. you've written about the game of 'balance' wrt fucking. when playing this game you /know/ somehow that you're doing it correctly, via various signals.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: feelings, and trial and error were not involved at all?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: so how'd you learn to fuck?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: the /feeling/ didn't do anything. It is merely a signal.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: well, when someone is tweaking the design of something and it produces extremely complex and counter-intuitive behavior I point them to that quote.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I've had that exact experience with programming.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: as for the fight in our realm, I'd like to buy 10ks of AMD opterons K8 chips and reverse engineer them. Give designs to China.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: what I would like to see is an actual fight.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Seriously. Where is the tree of all hardware as nodes with drivers as sub nodes? Oh, it doesn't exist? right.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Politics is harder than writing code. Who would have thought.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: eventually learned the hard way.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: (nixos, that is )
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mistakenly posted that issue, not fully grokking how bad of an idea it was
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ^ Correct. I ended up using it because I needed to quickly build a linux distro and someone told me it could do some things it couldn't really do.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: which breaks about everything.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: yeah. also, they don't document anything, or so much as tell you that they're going to move the whole C toolchain.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: using shell scripts and regexes, because types and haskell
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: some idiots decided to redo all of unix's packaging
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: fluffypony: lol
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Thanks for the feedback. I'll keep that in mind.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: The last message from me in that thread contains a brief discussion of the "why" of lisp, that is, what separates it from being 'just another language'. Figured I'd post it in here because your previous trilema post discussing reverse polish notation and Erik Naggum + many #b-a messages didn't communicate to me that lisp has 'clicked' yet for many people.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: then don't bother reading I suppose.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I'll take that as "no".
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: nah, I'm writing something now for other reasons, will link when finished if you've not.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: have you grokked the "why" of lisp yet?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: that is what he's considering.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: can you run gentoo on your macbook?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: I'm currently counting lines of algol and fixing up the dashboard
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: lol. The idea of a closure doesn't need to be stretched out across several chapters, but e.g., the cl-ppcre chapter is good for the non-lisper to read.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: Hello. How is life treating you?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: regarding the preceding discussion on asm, common lisp vs. julia vs. C, the book Let over Lambda is quite good and discusses these and related issues in-depth.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: do you know of any information about AMD Opteron's k8 microcode or the chip in question? I found http://www.securiteam.com/securityreviews/5FP0M1PDFO.html but nothing else on the matter. Also, do you know of a better place to ask this question? I'm not a haxx0r.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: I realize that, but no systemd should be considered a feature IMO. One I forgot to list.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Oh, I should note - no systemd.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: yes.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: And adds to it, e.g., when you start your daily mathematics practice it will pull up the previous state from where you left off.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: say that you want to write a Captain's Log each day before going to sleep. Masamune formalizes this.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: If anyone has requests for things they'd like to see in a dream distro. Let me know.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: iirc that SBCL functionality needs some work before it is ready for production.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: Nope. Though I should include that. The state saving is for files, window layouts, urls and their scroll locations.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: no explicit transactions etc. necessary. Just `setf' the state of the object in question.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: All state is saved via persistent CLOS by default.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: There are several other things that simply "make sense", but have somehow not found their way into mainstream linux. One of which is the dashboard. Currently it lists how many lisp LoC and projects are running on the entire machine. It also manages the habits system and allows for one to say, practice mathematics for 1 hours a day without fail, at which point it restores the state prior to starting the habit.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: The state saving facility allows for saving saving and restoration of all URLs, scroll locations, files and window arrangement on a whim. CLIM gui applications that obey the recommended architecture can also trivially plug into this system.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: 1/2 emacs 1/2 clim gui and XYZ files open with a (emacs) window arrangement just so.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: The browser, window manager, gui library and emacs are all connected to the same common lisp process and are explorable at runtime. Conkeror is based on Emacs and shares some of the same conceptual foundation, thus, the whole experience feels very lispy. The lessons system is 'dialed-in'. For example, you can specify that the user is to scroll to 80% of a particular URL, at which point you want the windows arranged
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: - js->ps transpiler (needs work)
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: - dashboard that reports e.g., LoC for the entire system.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: - habit system
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: - lesson system
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: - state saving and restoration (currently broken)
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: - 3D plotting facilities (animation, zooming etc.) No gnuplot or browser hackery.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: - symbolic algebra via Maxima
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: - based on funtoo, sources for all programs are included by default.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: - millions LoC less than the browser, at least 10x more expressive.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: - the best GUI library available on current architectures (CLIM - Commmon Lisp Interface Manager).
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: - Conkeror browser hooked up to parenscript.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: - documentation (current borked b/c of gentoo's USE flag problems - cyclic dependencies)
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I've actually done very little development for this dirtro. Most of my time has been spent finding perfect little individual peices and assembling them. Out of the box it has:
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: though from a rating perspective, I don't think it matters if I wait until I release the distro
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: destroyed in a failed backup :/
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: yeah I need to get on that.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: I'll write something up now
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Built on top of funtoo
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: I'm working on one, yes.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: lol thanks.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: but with true3d plotting
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: yep.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I've been well enough. Working on the same project.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: screenshots of programs that come with the #b-a distro by default.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: they're in the same vein of games such as diablo I&II, baulders gate, path of exile etc. Not in terms of gameplay, but overall attention to detail and cohesive structure.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Any #-assets members who will admit to being a fan of supreme commander or total annihilation?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: well yes, but you're response doesn't clarify.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: Well I'm not sure how else to read that.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: It seems to be the case that we're waiting?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I may have missed it in the logs, but is someone explicitly working on an assbot with gribble functionality or are we going to wait for wotnet / gossipd?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I've got to wonder if they draw straws and a few poor bastards get stuck taking all the classes.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: note however, the /average/ number of classes a year is 14.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Because that is how you go about attracting the best mathematicians, big data and boring classes to keep up to date on the law.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: le here, as our governing rules generally do not permit deep inspection when the apertuse into our data set widens. Getting this right is paramount: the average NSA mathematician takes fourteen courses each yer to be up-to-date on the procedures that govern these activities."
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: from The Mathematics Community and the NSA "Mathematician are leading the way to design and implement the algorithms that create this rising tide. Here we share many common interests with industry: e.g., big data analytics, cloud computing, machine learning and advanced search. So-called metadata (intelligence information that can be ascertained without examining the actual content of a communication) plays a big ro
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: does anyone have recommendations for books on Russia's "roaring nineties"?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "but bitcoin isn't money yet?"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Me: "so what do you think of MPEX"? He: "What they do is illegal!! You can't take money from investors in the united states without explicit approval of USG!"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Me kicked out of place I'm staying - being called "the next hitler"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Etherum guy tells me that he wants a "Holarchy" instead of an explicit hierarchy cause trilema articles are scary.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Har, remembering: Girl tells me she wants to crowdfund art. I link to trilema.com/what-is-art? She never responds.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: people fucking flip over slaves licking up their own vomit.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: some of the luzly ones read... re-read... re-read and eventually ask "Does he hate women or...?" (Not rabbits article)
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: E.G., one fellow sees pictures - hands back.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: this is how I know they've not read it. I tell them it is Romanian and pull up google translate in another tab, show them the keybinding to switch tabs.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: lol. twould be more entertaining than all of the bezzle 'media' output circa 2014
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I think, all of the sudden they understand on some level that this era of prosperous morons is coming to a close.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I've shown several people in Silly Con valley the rabits article. Fear flashes through their eyes and they hand the laptop back without reading it all the way through.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ascii_modem: thanks. a concise phrasing for my project still hasn't come to mind....
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ascii_modem: do you have any favorite organic chem programs or books you'd care to recommend?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: I'm not a visual thinker either - at least, never have been described as such. That said, GUIS are nice in certain circumstances.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: do you depend on opengl, use 2d, directx, proprietary graphics library written in assembler...?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: decimation: you can't mod google earth, can you?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: thanks for explaining. This aside I must admit I'm interested in knowing if you've got the 3D earth populated with all sorts of interesting information.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: A = programmer unemployment rate, B = you do all your research by hand?, C = 3D earth populated with interesting information?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: please elaborate?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: <mircea_popescu> gabriel_laddel i get it i get it, my point was more along the lines of, nobody can really do this for you, as a "consumer" sort of thing. << So you do all your research by hand? Also, do you have a rotating 3D globe on your computer that allows you to highlight/heatmap known uranium deposits, nuclear reactors, oil reserves, population stats etc.?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: again, r.e., chair warming. Maybe I'm the odd one out here, but I've had the distinct pleasure of interacting with people who I enjoy seeing on somewhat regular basis.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: sometimes it's nice to interface with people - mostly - no.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: r.e., chair warming, there is such a thing as interpersonal chemistry.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: also, thanks for upping me. my keys got destroyed in a botched backup and I don't know if I'll be able to recover them. until I sink some time into that task - no L2.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: e, but for now...
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: programmers who depend on some sort of regionalized unemployment rate can't possibly be all that skilled. << this is true, however if an economy thinks itself of being in dire need of programmers anyone with a brain can fly blind into the country and remain relatively assured of their future prosperity without having to put too much thought into it. This is going to go away at some point in the futur
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: what makes you thik he'd be in a position to write it ? guy never left australia. << He (or another) can supply the aforementioned article without getting up from their chair all that often. I'm just looking for some basic/tedious research - not boots on the ground scouting (though I am not opposed to this).
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: PeterL: BingoBoingo why thank you, but I have nothing more to say tonight unless something interesting comes up or someone wishes to address me.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ;; gettrust Luke-Jr
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "nipping at your heels" was not the expression I wanted. something closer to "you can speak random alphanumeric strings at people and they'll nod and smile at you. speak in an angry tone and they'll frown and shake their heads, but this and 'liking' things is the extent of their expressive and intellectual capabilities"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: work hard for your wealth and you'll be rewarded with pointless labor and millions of idiots nipping at your heels.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "You too may grow up to be Mark Zuckerberg!"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I stand corrected.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: can't find the naggum article I referenced earlier, but anyways yes - the process of choosing a hero in the USSA isn't by any stretch of imagination random.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: yeah, difficult to get ahold of in bezzle land, which increasingly seems to prefer to "select a hero at random" (as per naggum).
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: right, however I seem to recall some #b-a persons attempting to convince you to leave the us for an actual jungle.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I'm not one of those attempting to get you to emigrate and make the cardano in a jungle or w/e.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: kk. I had somehow gotten the impression that you were of both opinions a & b, which I find odd.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: so you're of the opinions that a) it isn't worth my time to network with people in other territories and b) usg is going to collapse?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: and interesting problems only ever happen in the us of a?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: well, yes. I simply do not program anything other than Common Lisp. but because I can do this at $mylocation doesn't mean that there doesn't exist a soul in e.g., Russia who would be willing to pay me to do it.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: PeterL: missed this line. <kakobrekla> ascii so basically you dont want to get your hands dirty.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: 05:18 <kakobrekla> when shit is decomposed enough its dirt. << specifically referring to this.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: wtf is even being discussed.
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