ben_vulpes: the amusing thing is how their "airdrop" shit doesn't work either.
ben_vulpes: on mine as well.
ben_vulpes: sharing is on.
ben_vulpes: PeterL: i'm pretty savvy with the os x shit.
ben_vulpes: way to break functionality that's just worked.
ben_vulpes: good job apple.
ben_vulpes: he can't even see mine from his machine.
ben_vulpes: i can see the guy's laptop, can't even open the "dropbox".
ben_vulpes: fucking nothing.
ben_vulpes: functionality that's worked for what, a decade?
ben_vulpes: i just tried to share a folder from one mac to another
ben_vulpes: just...slander
ben_vulpes: still can if you want to
ben_vulpes: slander!
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> so war on drugs that are powders ? gases are ok ? << don't forget plants
ben_vulpes: lady v loved cunt-in-a-box btw
ben_vulpes: heh great
ben_vulpes: lots of lulz and drama to be had there.
ben_vulpes: or macronutrient ratios?
ben_vulpes: have we done exercise strategies yet?
ben_vulpes: i missed ya
ben_vulpes: welcome back nubbins`
ben_vulpes: "Why, he will be castigated by the authority, cast out by the other doctors, and no longer be able to call himself a doctor." << rarely happens in the ussa, but this place is a hellhole.
ben_vulpes: what a time to be alive.
ben_vulpes goes to bed, asciilifeform goes to rebuild the universe.
ben_vulpes: stake?
ben_vulpes: who is drepper anyways?
ben_vulpes: disregard i eat cocks
ben_vulpes: is drepper the shitgnome or did drepper find the thing?
ben_vulpes: punkman: me neither.
ben_vulpes: ABSOLUTELY UNRELATED
ben_vulpes: end of times and all that fun stuff.
ben_vulpes: wai wut? i thought bezzling was a good thing.
ben_vulpes: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#L210 ... https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.7.2/src/rpcblockchain.cpp#L12
ben_vulpes: "disproportionate" is in there too.
ben_vulpes: bb's trollin.
ben_vulpes: i am not accustomed to being responsible for female cleanliness!
ben_vulpes: i've always been amused by the "bend over and get it wet" approach, but i'm a total noob.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: post your x86 auto.sh on the listserv ? << any reason to not run with -xeu?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> and yet you savages still don't have cunt basins as a regular fixture, amirite ? << why's the shower so inadequate?
ben_vulpes: my stovetop vent vents into the apartment.
ben_vulpes: <thestringpuller> asciilifeform: random question. If someone paid for you to take Buterin's C4 (Certified Bitcoin Professional) exam, would you do it? << wait, CBP is a Buterin project?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> i carried it. << btcauditor when
ben_vulpes: what's the context of all the "schoolgirls"?
ben_vulpes: understand it."
ben_vulpes: Whenever it came time for his daily bowl of soup he would look around for the nearest "girl" and ask if she would fetch it to him. It did not matter if she was the cook, an engineer, or the president of the company. I once asked a female engineer who had just been a victim of this if it bothered her. "Yes, it really annoys me," she said. "On the other hand, he is the only one who ever explained quantum mechanics to me as if I could
ben_vulpes: wolfram worked with feynman at Thinking Machines?!
ben_vulpes: p funny
ben_vulpes: real20m17.054s
ben_vulpes: ...
ben_vulpes: time ./auto.sh
ben_vulpes recompiles on local vm with actual beef to it.
ben_vulpes: aside from having the thing actually be programmable, but that's apparently a nonstarter in our world.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the only pills i'm aware of are pouring capital into refining the interface and training the intended customers.
ben_vulpes: i'd no idea that compiling a static bitcoind would take quite so much memory. then again, it's loading all of boost and dbb and openssl - does all of the above need to reside in memory at the same time?
ben_vulpes: again, shlomiel.
ben_vulpes: pauper's vps.
ben_vulpes: obj, obj, obj...Killed.
ben_vulpes: no, 'twas all.
ben_vulpes: ram, likely.
ben_vulpes: (subject of the portatron: "g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus) ")
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: and did you spend a similar amount of time attempting to 'work' the same way in 'the gimp'?
ben_vulpes: why?
ben_vulpes: my mind is blown.
ben_vulpes: and i mean for hours, weeks at a stretch?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: have you ever worked with photoshop, illustrator et al?
ben_vulpes: every little feature squireled away a million menus down
ben_vulpes: oh jesus this is going to be like gimp isn't it
ben_vulpes: ah hey freecad looks okay
ben_vulpes: i can't recall if i ever bumped into freecad.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'trololol' < i suppose that part sheets, dimensional tolerancing and what have you are part of my base assumptions for part fab.
ben_vulpes: one of the things that gently nudged me into my current slavery
ben_vulpes: the best part about labview is how once a person builds a reasonably complex thing in it they and only they can really understand where all the pipes go and where all the data is and how control moves around
ben_vulpes: oh jesus labview
ben_vulpes: "does it fit" << doubly so in the context of assemblies.
ben_vulpes: 6-axis doolie to move the object around in space; select faces and planes on which to draw shapes and sweep/extrude them through space.
ben_vulpes: decimation: it's actually very fast and intuitive once you've learned the interfaces.
ben_vulpes: !s co-processor from:asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: it's one of those few interfacing problems that i don't really think is suited to a textual abstraction.
ben_vulpes: i wasn't programming when i was a hot modeler.
ben_vulpes: well, i don't know.
ben_vulpes: nah.
ben_vulpes: mm but pure text part description?
ben_vulpes: and in fact that is how good part design should be done.
ben_vulpes: decimation: they both support defining parts parametrically.
ben_vulpes: that you gotta check against single dimension approximations to make sure it's not haring off into impossiblespace
ben_vulpes: full multiphysics sims
ben_vulpes: inventor fusion's pretty sweet.
ben_vulpes: last time i checked the answer to "assemblies?" was "lolwut" and i stopped paying attention.
ben_vulpes: it has been a few years since i looked at the "open" cadcam "solutions".
ben_vulpes: although the notion that you can design any 3d part of any utility without inventor or solidworks is pretty lulzy
ben_vulpes: it ain't under vibratory load or anything
ben_vulpes: oh just beef it up some
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> where'd ya get the O2 O3 combo << shlomiel moment
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: CXXFLAGS=-O2 -std=c++03 -> CXXFLAGS=-O2 -O3 << is this braindamage of my own design?
ben_vulpes: all these old names popping up.
ben_vulpes: a RagnarDanneskjol!
ben_vulpes: looks bad for the back.
ben_vulpes: i've more or less given up at this point.
ben_vulpes: decimation: i've wasted 3 days over the past two weeks trying to get a modern browser to boot into x11 for os x.
ben_vulpes: they're not real keys, as far as i care.
ben_vulpes: sure, why not.
ben_vulpes: "fix this issue with your keys?"
ben_vulpes: the apple binary signing process is hilaribad.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: other people in the shop use the apple toolchain and the android toolchain. all i ever do with those is "turn the right nut" when it comes to "signing" binaries for apple/google and cutting builds.
ben_vulpes: a pauper is i.
ben_vulpes: go ibid
ben_vulpes: ruby as necessary to unfuck other people's mistakes.
ben_vulpes: python, bash, clojure.
ben_vulpes: :P
ben_vulpes: clients
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> use the expected values for your machine. << ahahaha "expected values" ahaha as if
ben_vulpes: thanks for the patience, much of this is over my head. but what better way to contaminate my mind with the c toolchain than bitcoind
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: CFLAGS should read something like -I/usr/include ?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: aha. in the middle of it already.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: re portotronic, what's the right thing to do with CROSS_PREFIX for non-arm builds? omit from script entirely?
ben_vulpes: mhmsure.
ben_vulpes: people may definitively lose interest, eh?
ben_vulpes: there's always something silly happening in the backwaters
ben_vulpes: lol in portland?
ben_vulpes: iirc, i hit 70.
ben_vulpes: ticket was officially for 60 in a 30.
ben_vulpes: i got a reckless driving charge one time.
ben_vulpes: <herbijudlestoids> [] deployment tools, config mgmt, automated service discovery etc << /me is tres jelly
ben_vulpes: next career
ben_vulpes: sage words
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it gets worse. some even work for me.
ben_vulpes: <Adlai> it's funny/sad how parenting reverses over time << oh this is great news you mean i have to take care of both ends? great.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> srsly, whoever asked that, read the damn thing << for those blessedly uncontaminated with "c machine" constructs, it's hard to tell where the "c++" leaves off and the "boost" begins. it's clear that it's used in every for loop (c++ doesn't have iteration constructs?!), but the question if you didn't read closely enough was "why bother?" not "should one?"
ben_vulpes: !up Vexual
ben_vulpes: ok ok
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust assbot herbijudlestoids
ben_vulpes: !gettrust assbot herbijudlestoids
ben_vulpes: ;;ident herbijudlestoids
ben_vulpes: and an herbijudlestoids!
ben_vulpes: i went heads down, next thing i know you asshats have crapped out 800 loglines
ben_vulpes: well that was quite the refactor
ben_vulpes: ok ok i'll do my own research next time
ben_vulpes: i guess that answers that
ben_vulpes: i can't tell if it's me or thestringpuller on your ignore list kakobrekla
ben_vulpes: i thought the automation was implicit.
ben_vulpes: ...
ben_vulpes: glhf
ben_vulpes: come back with actual citations, troll
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: when have i ever done such?!
ben_vulpes: peer review, testing in production, what's the difference anyways
ben_vulpes: yeah explicit deps are nice
ben_vulpes: forgive the naivte, but what does static compilation buy one?
ben_vulpes: assuming, that is that all boost functions start with BOOST_
ben_vulpes: doesn't look like there are that many different boost functions called.
ben_vulpes: i am full of questions as to how that's implemented
ben_vulpes: but as to danielpbarron's pointer...
ben_vulpes: well okay i grok that it's related to thread safety
ben_vulpes: i have no clue, man.
ben_vulpes: a well-reasoned critique. thanks punkman.
ben_vulpes: what's so bad about boost?
ben_vulpes: okay hey so devil's advocate for a moment
ben_vulpes: punkman: asciilifeform proposed snipping the crypto routines out of ssl and dropping them wholesale into the bitcoind
ben_vulpes: i take that as a given
ben_vulpes: oh my network sucks
ben_vulpes: s/emacs/oss
ben_vulpes: decimation: i did at one point.
ben_vulpes: mk well nm then.
ben_vulpes: maybe i should run an x server on the remote host as well!
ben_vulpes: decimation: i don't know that this was a good decision.
ben_vulpes: but then i got all grumpy about having to maintain multiple sets of finger macros for the emacs-in-terminal vs the emacs-in-xserver
ben_vulpes: i was very happy when i was running an emacs irc client on a remote host over mosh.
ben_vulpes: znc is a laggy buggy piece of shit
ben_vulpes: i'm currently using znc and i hate hate HATE it.
ben_vulpes: what bouncers does everyone use?
ben_vulpes: <mike_c> [] https://s3.amazonaws.com/btcalpha/static/foobar.svg << neat
ben_vulpes: <thestringpuller> It would be amazing if mod6 and ben_vulpes could rip it out of the code completely << i like how you're implying i know anything about cpp
ben_vulpes: but did you you know *make it* in the bucket list boat?
ben_vulpes: east side being mostly residential, mostly small streets.
ben_vulpes: for all that it's a communist paradise, portland does get this right. lots of super annoying stop lights on major thoroughfares throughout the east side.
ben_vulpes: see previous thread about "wake me when compute costs 1btc/hr".
ben_vulpes: and yes, the "computer" as a modern invention (from the c machine on forwards to the consumer laptop) is an entirely awful fork in the technological roadmap.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: well i exaggerate for btclulz. clearly *you* are deserving of your mercs and what have you, but the state of every pleb in their own plastic wheelbox has got to go.
ben_vulpes: roads themselves aren't expensive, nor the maintenance thereof but rather the wear and tear from 2-ton tardboxes
ben_vulpes: they're brutal on the roads.
ben_vulpes: especially in the mass production everyone having one.
ben_vulpes: horrid invention.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i'm all for banning cars.
ben_vulpes: and now thestringpuller's flapping...
ben_vulpes: dunno but i'm off for the night
ben_vulpes: https://bitbet.us/browse/ << skinnkavaj i'd start there
ben_vulpes: hey hey the gangs all here
ben_vulpes: !up Vexual
ben_vulpes: thought you were flappin.
ben_vulpes: !up skinnkavaj
ben_vulpes: and now skinnkavaj, eh?
ben_vulpes: he or she knows.
ben_vulpes: !s mandarin
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] asciilifeform: but for remoras - the swiftest possible discipline. << eh, it's best to fix problems well after rather than well before they're problems. << it's a problem now.
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mandarin quit fucking joining and parting
ben_vulpes: mandarin: quit fucking joining and parting
ben_vulpes: i love it when that happens
ben_vulpes: reasonable client is reasonable
ben_vulpes: oh man
ben_vulpes: i went to sleep mourning the computers my children seem doomed to use.
ben_vulpes: what would it take to make a computer of the complexity of an amiga today?
ben_vulpes: <thestringpuller> [] That was in october! My long term memory can't be 100% #b-a logs. << pothead :P
ben_vulpes: the world wherein mircea_popescu's arranged for not only the rewrite of "gpg" but also "mavlink"
ben_vulpes: i speak of the post-bezzle world.
ben_vulpes: yup i'm right there with you
ben_vulpes: be it 5, 10, 20, i don't really care.
ben_vulpes: the point is an integer multiple of current costs.
ben_vulpes: yeah sure, bump the number up
ben_vulpes: and deplete their wallets.
ben_vulpes: more importantly long life prosperity and lulz to those who stick spokes in mine enemies wheels.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2015#1015089 << this. death to magic numbers.
ben_vulpes: the newest macbook air to hit the shop actually arrived with a slower (!) CPU than its predecessor.
ben_vulpes: 1.5k bezzlebucks...just doesn't cut it.
ben_vulpes: this is a good thing because there's room in that budget for build quality.
ben_vulpes: the upside to this is that eventually the laptop market as we know it is going to disappear, and people who actually *use* computers will have to pay 10k each.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2015#1015042 << neutered combudders and preprogrammed "apps" are devouring the "laptop" market Apple built itself upon.
ben_vulpes: he though does good works for ye olde welfare state in mass now
ben_vulpes: i played dnd with the other one in college
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2015#1015000 << you're the second nerdiest black guy i know
ben_vulpes: from the hilariously wacky posters to the20year derping
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2015#1014942 << i found that whole saga endlessly amusing
ben_vulpes: i have no clue
ben_vulpes: has the thing been debunked?
ben_vulpes: anyways your wot your rules, i'm just ribbing you for apparent triviality.
ben_vulpes: since when did twitter matter, etc
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: just looks like a slapfight from over here is all i'm saying.
ben_vulpes: granted, they were supported by the dictator but hey - tango!
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2015#1014795 << and in the 40s whole orchestras practiced for 8 hours a day and gigged at the milongas later. tell me this world isn't poorer!
ben_vulpes: well that's something else entirely now innit?
ben_vulpes: i'm going to pretty quickly and steeply discount your rating inputs
ben_vulpes: you say "nah he blocked me on twitter"
ben_vulpes: i mean i go to you later and say "hey whaddaya know about justusranvier, did he run with some coins or something?"
ben_vulpes: Naphex: uncloaked!
ben_vulpes: your wot, your rules.
ben_vulpes: not in my book, no.
ben_vulpes: RATINGS DRAMA WAR
ben_vulpes: Starsoccer: you're joining and cloaking in the wrong order.
ben_vulpes: the right people.
ben_vulpes: beetcoin: not "enough" people.
ben_vulpes: in practice, however.
ben_vulpes: beetcoin: the last time gavin tried to change bitcoin in one of these "fundamental" ways, he burned a lot of capital fixing all of the idiots bitcoinds who went with him.
ben_vulpes: don't fuck with it.
ben_vulpes: it ain't broke
ben_vulpes: what could be more awesome than the knowledge that the system will have 21M coins...FOREVER?