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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00041022 = 5.3739 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform: https://archive.org/stream/principlesmrhar00unkngoog#page/n4/mode/2up << early 'open source', lol
assbot: The principles of Mr. Harrison's time-keeper; with plates of the same ... ( http://bit.ly/1AdSiqO )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00041541 = 4.5695 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00041541 = 4.1333 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: !up whaack
whaack: ty
whaack: i tried to authenticate through nickserv and says i'm not registered
whaack: anyways I came here to ask if you guys have btc entrepreneurial ideas that you think are good but just don't have time to get around to
whaack: i would love to work in a completely closed btc system, but alas I don't know of any way to acquire bitcoins faster than trading in my fiat for them
BingoBoingo: <whaack> i would love to work in a completely closed btc system, but alas I don't know of any way to acquire bitcoins faster than trading in my fiat for them << Sounds like the answer for the time being
whaack: BingoBoingo: word but I know my business is the result of cheap credit so it hurts a little inside lol
BingoBoingo: You gotta do what you gotta do
whaack: BingoBoingo: Do you have any idea why I wouldn't be able to identify myself through Nickserv?
BingoBoingo: Are you not registered and/or has it been more than a few weeks since you last identified with nickserv?
whaack: it was like 3-5 days
whaack: and i did the steps here http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets
assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1ybBQ8x )
BingoBoingo: That's tougher to debug.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5775 @ 0.00042135 = 2.4333 BTC [+] {2}
whaack: BingoBoingo: Another question - are there any SF bitcoin startups that you beileve are useful? Like do you believe CB is useful?
BingoBoingo: I've never been that far west
whaack: by SF I mean SF-esque
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00042318 = 2.8776 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Still
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6383 @ 0.00042318 = 2.7012 BTC [+]
whaack: What version of BTC does everyone here use?
whaack: I heard people talking about like v .5
BingoBoingo: A variety. Probably nothing 0.9 or later
BingoBoingo: whaack: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/10/20_a-summary-of-changes-to-bitcoin-since-0321.html
assbot: A summary of changes to Bitcoin since 0.3.21 ... ( http://bit.ly/1FBgHFD )
whaack: FI don't get the hate on multisgi
whaack: multisig*
BingoBoingo: The assumptions that lead people towards it are problematic
whaack: Can you explain?
BingoBoingo: If you don't trust someone enough to send to them, why are you letting them collaboarate with their buddy? is the simple off target explanation
BingoBoingo: !up whaack
BingoBoingo: I'm deep in the vodka tonight. You may need a better explainador
whaack: I'm deep into my weed it's alright
whaack: I think multisig for that reason is retarded, I thought the main purpose is for personal use to reduce the chance I fuck something up
BingoBoingo: Nah dawg. It's to get other motherfucker's claws into your wallet
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 218.32, Best ask: 218.57, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 218.29, 24 hour volume: 9416.10762757, 24 hour low: 217.99, 24 hour high: 223.0, 24 hour vwap: 220.901216254
whaack: Is everyone in this channel dumping their coins on Gavin's big blockchain?
whaack: It seems like something that takes a little bravery other than just holding and seeing which chain wins
BingoBoingo: whaack: hard to say if so and on what timeline.
BingoBoingo: I mean the money shot's spent at the end of the porno flick, but this is live cams. Can't tip when the action ends
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34594 @ 0.00043005 = 14.8771 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38900 @ 0.00043294 = 16.8414 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: the thing is, a destroyer "cost" a coupla bil, and will sell for what, 10-20k btc. << Mostly they sit in Norfolk
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: hmm, musta been diff boxer. << Twas Tyson, USG bankruptcy laws... pretty hard not to use them. It is what got Trump rich
BingoBoingo: !up joecool
joecool: thanks, you know i can do that myself too right?
BingoBoingo: Well, been a while since you did and saw you got into a ratings war earlier
joecool: ah that was just messing with glooboy
joecool: !gettrust BingoBoingo
assbot: Trust relationship from user joecool to user BingoBoingo: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/joecool/BingoBoingo | http://w.b-a.link/user/BingoBoingo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8983 @ 0.00042219 = 3.7925 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10117 @ 0.00042884 = 4.3386 BTC [+]
punkman: http://qntra.net/2015/02/hsbc-clients-victims-of-probable-social-engineering-attack/ << "Details on how the leak occurred have not been made public" it was public, this guy leaked it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herv%C3%A9_Falciani
assbot: HSBC Clients Victims of Probable Social Engineering Attack | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1zO1hNt )
assbot: Hervé Falciani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1zO1hNB )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00041401 = 4.2643 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] asciilifeform: but for remoras - the swiftest possible discipline. << eh, it's best to fix problems well after rather than well before they're problems. << it's a problem now.
fluffypony: mandarin: your internet is broken
ben_vulpes: !s mandarin
assbot: 23 results for 'mandarin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=mandarin
ben_vulpes: he or she knows.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00041401 = 2.2357 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00041401 = 2.7739 BTC [-]
fluffypony: and knowing is half the battle
fluffypony: :-P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00041363 = 8.1071 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: and now skinnkavaj, eh?
ben_vulpes: !up skinnkavaj
skinnkavaj: Anyone know if kakobrekla's trading site offers trading with oil?
skinnkavaj: and what was your question ben_vulpes :)
ben_vulpes: thought you were flappin.
ben_vulpes: !up Vexual
ben_vulpes: hey hey the gangs all here
Vexual: If it doesn't it should
Vexual: Hey bro. How hangs em?
Vexual: What is this fuxking night shift?
ben_vulpes: https://bitbet.us/browse/ << skinnkavaj i'd start there
assbot: Browse BitBet ... ( http://bit.ly/1KMnVcB )
Vexual: What happens when Belgium drop s Greece and I can't rate punk
ben_vulpes: dunno but i'm off for the night
Vexual: I suppose that the beer gets better generally. And that's about the sum yeah??
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6389 @ 0.00041858 = 2.6743 BTC [+]
Vexual: Ciao
Vexual: Greek beer is fucking excellent.
Vexual: Twist of orange? Ya couldn't do that anywhere else on earth
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60650 @ 0.00042678 = 25.8842 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43857 @ 0.00043351 = 19.0124 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00043454 = 5.0624 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00042858 = 3.1501 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.0004317 = 3.4104 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00043115 = 3.3845 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47800 @ 0.00043454 = 20.771 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00042615 = 1.2998 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: eh wtf is this.
mircea_popescu: whaack: I think multisig for that reason is retarded, I thought the main purpose is for personal use to reduce the chance I fuck something up << why do you think your personal measures against fucking something up should be world-readable ?
fluffypony: thanks mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: if i keep a spare pair of panties in my briefcase in case i shit myself, i do not send a record of their purchase to the new york times, for publication in their news section, nor do i send the unfortunate reports of the occurence for the obit section.
fluffypony: was starting to get on my nerves
mircea_popescu: fluffypony a that. i imagine.
mircea_popescu: wtf ban evasion is this, can be arsed to avoid a ban, can't be arsed to fix bouncer.
mircea_popescu: whaack: It seems like something that takes a little bravery other than just holding and seeing which chain wins << what exact bravery does it take ? you get dollars for it.
mircea_popescu: takes exactly as much bravery as eating cake.
mircea_popescu: whaack: anyways I came here to ask if you guys have btc entrepreneurial ideas that you think are good but just don't have time to get around to << jobs pop up occasionally. you have to read the log to have a chance at them. this is intentional.
mircea_popescu: why am i even talking at this guy anyway.
fluffypony: oh my Pogo Plugs just arrived!
mircea_popescu: o hey cool.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00042617 = 4.7731 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: iiincredible how chrome ate firefox' lunch.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3183 @ 0.00042615 = 1.3564 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: for the record, i've made a complete backup of tlp's site. 702 articles it has.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6781 @ 0.00042649 = 2.892 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: "Except the argument isn't grounded in reality. Saying something vague like "people need these drugs," misses the immediate point: which drugs? On what grounds is it even possible to say that people "need something" that didn't exist until a company created it?"
mircea_popescu: heh heh.
mircea_popescu: "The problem, in part, in this debate arises from scientists confusing discovery or research with invention. Looked at in terms of the production of novel material, certain distinctions can be made. Discovery and research are not creative acts. While they require creative thinking, they do not add anything materially new to the world. Alternatively, invention is the act of creating something that did not exist. There w
mircea_popescu: as no Prozac or Tylenol until someone invented it."
mircea_popescu: but... if it didn't exist... then how was it that "the company" made it ?!
mircea_popescu: was there no gold before mendeleev ? or what, did he invent "eka-aluminium" ?
mircea_popescu: does all gallium belong to mendeleev's estate now ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12919 @ 0.00042651 = 5.5101 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: oh hey, wassup romanian camel guy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19385 @ 0.00042915 = 8.3191 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: !up clyfe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00043454 = 9.6902 BTC [+]
chetty: and this is a bloody nightmare: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/02/11/fcc-commissioner-proposed-internet-regulation-mimics-obamacare/
assbot: FCC Commissioner: Proposed Internet Regulation 'Mimics Obamacare' - Breitbart ... ( http://bit.ly/16XIJ1X )
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/synonymy-is-a-myth/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00043556 = 2.6134 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.0004358 = 2.4187 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00043595 = 6.779 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/02/11/fcc-commissioner-proposed-internet-regulation-mimics-obamacare/
assbot: FCC Commissioner: Proposed Internet Regulation 'Mimics Obamacare' - Breitbart ... ( http://bit.ly/16XIJ1X )
mircea_popescu: “adopting a solution that won’t work to a problem that doesn’t exist using legal authority we don’t have,”
mircea_popescu: “nowhere does the agency identify any kind of systemic harm in the Internet economy, but nonetheless it invents one in order to regulate it, and so it’s this classic situation where we’re adopting a solution that won’t work to a problem that doesn’t exist using legal authority we don’t have.”
mircea_popescu: pill to bitcoin ? burn down the internet!
mircea_popescu: mebbe qntra worthy.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00043637 = 1.8546 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00042685 = 3.2441 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6357 @ 0.00043637 = 2.774 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5277 @ 0.00043644 = 2.3031 BTC [+] {2}
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/statistics-still-the-hardest-part-of-math/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22450 @ 0.00042581 = 9.5594 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform: FCC Commissioner: Proposed Internet Regulation 'Mimics Obamacare' << astroturf and misdirection. regardless of which branch of usg is at the helm (fcc or verizon) - the train will still end up at the same stop: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=208
assbot: Loper OS » “The Internet of the Future” ... ( http://bit.ly/1CZsTSk )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00042481 = 6.627 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: ;;isitup bitcoin-assets.com
gribble: Error: "isitup" is not a valid command.
danielpbarron: ;;isdown bitcoin-assets.com
gribble: Error: "isdown" is not a valid command.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.0004366 = 7.4004 BTC [+] {2}
danielpbarron: ;;isup bitcoin-assets.com
gribble: bitcoin-assets.com is up
mike_c: ;;isitdown bitcoin-assets.com
gribble: bitcoin-assets.com is up
asciilifeform: works great here
mike_c: ;;seen mthreat
gribble: mthreat was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 22 hours, 40 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <mthreat> <+mircea_popescu> ... << yeh but how are we to verify! << I actually got pics of me holding up the blockchain iPhone app transaction, in front of the Port Lockroy building with a sign visible!
danielpbarron: very strange; i can ping it from my irc machine, and not from my laptop
mircea_popescu: is your laptop on the fccinternet ?
asciilifeform: l0l
danielpbarron checks for black vans outside
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20399 @ 0.00042385 = 8.6461 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00043734 = 6.6913 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6335 @ 0.00043663 = 2.7661 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: and now thestringpuller's flapping...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00043663 = 5.2614 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5560 @ 0.00043766 = 2.4334 BTC [+]
mthreat: mike_c: i'm here
mike_c: hello! have you seen the recent revival of the stemming argument.
mthreat: no
mike_c: the argument is basically that stemming is making it harder to find things on search.b-a, not easier
mthreat: ok. i can turn it off easily, (and back on later if we want).
mike_c: that would be great.
mike_c: i think no-stemming, but having prefix-wildcards should satisfy everyone
mthreat: ok, will be ready in a few minutes with stemming off. prefix wildcards are always on.
mike_c: awesome. thanks.
mthreat: np
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00043766 = 2.2758 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00043663 = 4.3881 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/02/12/fuckin-diddle-her-twat/
assbot: Fuckin’ diddle her twat. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOzsbo )
pete_dushenski: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 222.15, Best ask: 222.21, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 222.15, 24 hour volume: 6238.07681239, 24 hour low: 217.99, 24 hour high: 222.99, 24 hour vwap: 220.711036885
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9445 @ 0.00043899 = 4.1463 BTC [+] {2}
pete_dushenski: !up thestringpuller_
thestringpuller_: I got ddosed :(
pete_dushenski: cloak went down ?
thestringpuller_: yea during netsplit
thestringpuller_: no other explanation for internet go down, and it's more than circumstantial that internet went down shortly after cloak went down
mike_c: asciilifeform: stemming is off search.b-a. give it a whirl sometime.
thestringpuller_: don't seem to get ddosed from freenode tho
thestringpuller_: from freenode webchat***
mike_c: maybe the regex isn't too good
jurov: ^ why i never relied on cloak
thestringpuller_: jurov: what method do you use?
thestringpuller_: for ddos mitigation
jurov: micro vps behind aws firewall
thestringpuller_: I'll give that a shot when Amazon approves my fucking Amazon payments account.
jurov: AWS is different entity from amazon warehouse
thestringpuller_: they prefer to use Amazon Payments for billing tho for that
jurov: i never noticed
jurov: use normal debit card
thestringpuller_: oh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9254 @ 0.00043663 = 4.0406 BTC [-]
thestringpuller_: Yea I don't have debit cards.
thestringpuller_: I pay for everything with cash in hand.
jurov: ah so. also, unlike amazon store aws needs your dox.
thestringpuller_: Yea
thestringpuller_: all that stuff
thestringpuller_: "ARE U TERRORIST?"
jurov: i have no problems spinning off instances for wot members, can do it for you
jurov: they have pretty comprehensive access rights system to safely allow it
thestringpuller_: won't they fine you for giving resources to someone who is not "in the system" lol
thestringpuller_: aka "You can't buy bitcoins with cash because children and stuffs"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00043926 = 10.2787 BTC [+]
jurov: how will they know? many shartups resell aws right and left, too
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2372 @ 0.0008137 = 1.9301 BTC [-] {22}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 7627 @ 0.00077322 = 5.8973 BTC [-] {27}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20382 @ 0.00043926 = 8.953 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: so apparently paris is going right off the deep end with its "anti-pollution" nonsense
pete_dushenski: as of july 2015, no cars built before 1997 will be permitted in the city centre
pete_dushenski: by 2020, diesels made after 2011 won't be allowed in
pete_dushenski: all this to try to "stimulate" the economy and "encourage" people to take transit
pete_dushenski: i'm all for walkable cities, but taking some and not all cars off the road strikes of lunacy
pete_dushenski: peugeot, citroen, renault probably think this'll help them
pete_dushenski: like some sekrit bailout that no one has to know about
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10565 @ 0.00043405 = 4.5857 BTC [-] {3}
pete_dushenski: though this rule is only in effect from 8am to 8pm daily
pete_dushenski: source: http://fr.reuters.com/article/topNews/idFRKBN0LD19920150209
assbot: Le plan anti-pollution de la maire de Paris adopté| À la Une| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1yrhOSk )
pete_dushenski: do we have anyone other than davout from france here ?
pete_dushenski: i seem to recall one other at least...
mike_c: he left cuz we're a cult.
pete_dushenski: lol o that's right
jurov: ;;sell 1 "AWS VPS servers" at 1 BTC "Prepaid for at least one month. AWS price * 1.25 / BitstampUSD. Any other related expenses (like bandwidth) charged extra at same rate. Must abide AWS ToS and react properly to any abuse notices."
gribble: Order id 22002 created.
jurov: ha. hustle must go on.
pete_dushenski: i pushed panks over the edge, didn't i
pete_dushenski: "France’s Total plans to cut 2,000 jobs, sell assets after big loss in oil markets"
pete_dushenski: ^not going to be helped by moar efficiency
mircea_popescu: heh
pete_dushenski: but hey, iatrogenics are on purpose sometimes!
mircea_popescu: i have no words to describe how derpy argentines are.
pete_dushenski: cut them some slack eh
pete_dushenski: when was their last king ?
mircea_popescu: <mthreat> np << o hey, how's the south pole ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski basically what i see is a cargo cult generation. if you've ever seen monty python's twit of the year sketch that's basiclaly the idea.
mircea_popescu: their grandparents were pretty cool. their parents rather mediocre. now they're fucked in the head.
mircea_popescu: they kinda get a very superficial formal thing about granpa, but otherwise the head dun work.
mircea_popescu: argentina is set for a much more major collapse than anyone seems to realise.
pete_dushenski: hm. not sure that anyone is giving the 'tines much in the way of odds these days
pete_dushenski: other than thumbing their nose at teh american judges, they don't seem to be thriving
pete_dushenski: but hey, these days, who is ?
mircea_popescu: france :D
pete_dushenski: lol!
pete_dushenski: mebbe that's why kakkes left.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's a great place, but the people are inept to a degree that can not even be put into words. doesn't even look like a year's famine would be enough, more biblical measures required, 30 years in the desert, stuff like that.
pete_dushenski: the weather will do that
pete_dushenski: see northern mediterraneans
pete_dushenski having a laugh watching "twit of the year"
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i'm all for banning cars.
ben_vulpes: horrid invention.
mircea_popescu: "no cars in town" is not a bad idea.
ben_vulpes: especially in the mass production everyone having one.
ben_vulpes: they're brutal on the roads.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: that's like saying "the car is a horrid invention because i don't like windoze"
ben_vulpes: roads themselves aren't expensive, nor the maintenance thereof but rather the wear and tear from 2-ton tardboxes
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski right. those twits ? their dad was nobody, some anon derp with, as orwell put it, "Well-meaning, over-civilized men, in dark suits and black felt hats, with neatly rolled umbrellas crooked over the left forearm, were imposing their constipated view of life"
pete_dushenski: s/car/computer
mircea_popescu: but the grandfather was you know, "peccavi"
mircea_popescu: General Sir Charles James Napier, GCB
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: well i exaggerate for btclulz. clearly *you* are deserving of your mercs and what have you, but the state of every pleb in their own plastic wheelbox has got to go.
ben_vulpes: and yes, the "computer" as a modern invention (from the c machine on forwards to the consumer laptop) is an entirely awful fork in the technological roadmap.
ben_vulpes: see previous thread about "wake me when compute costs 1btc/hr".
pete_dushenski: well i'm hardly going to disagree that everyone getting something "just as good" makes the whole lot of us worse off
mircea_popescu: soo... slavedrawn mercs ?
pete_dushenski: no cars in town is a perfectly sensible idea in most parts of the world
pete_dushenski: lol well the thing drinks like 30L/100km so that's a lot of (indirect) slave labour from the oil sands up north
ben_vulpes: for all that it's a communist paradise, portland does get this right. lots of super annoying stop lights on major thoroughfares throughout the east side.
ben_vulpes: east side being mostly residential, mostly small streets.
pete_dushenski: iirc there was a german city that was going to all-out ban cars in the city centre
pete_dushenski: a sizeable city it was
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that's the wrong approach imo.
mircea_popescu: like the fucking speed bumps.
pete_dushenski: as to whether this works in the populated arctic... i dunno
mircea_popescu: i don't need to be jostled just because sopme other fuckhead can't drive at his speed.
pete_dushenski: ah, it was hamburg
pete_dushenski: and it aims to be car-free in the city centre... by 2034
pete_dushenski: which is reasonable given that in 20 years the serene republic will own it as a summer resort ;)
mircea_popescu: except this is a naked problem of power. i would be ok with a "no cars" town in which i personally can drive if i feel like.
mircea_popescu: i will not be ok with a "no cars" town in which the fucking mayor/police/you get to drive if you feel like
mircea_popescu: and by "not ok" i mean i will fucking shoot you over it.
mircea_popescu: this being a bit of a problem, practically.
pete_dushenski: well imagine that there will be "no car" rules in most major cities in 20 years
mircea_popescu: in the sense of "no cars for you"
pete_dushenski: and that #b-a badges and #b-a plates will roam the streets freely
mircea_popescu: which yes, it has to happen, because most "major cities" are inhabited by... twits.
pete_dushenski: because no city mayor/police/etc can very well stand in the way of the leaders of the free world
mircea_popescu: "Marching gets our message out." No it doesn't, it gets CNN's message out. "We don't watch CNN, we use the internet." Yet given the infinity of the internet you still surf the same 5 websites, looking for and finding exactly what you want, like a baby playing peekaboo in a mirror over and over and over and over and over and over and...
mircea_popescu: this tlp guy... i love him.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00043926 = 5.952 BTC [+]
mthreat: <+mircea_popescu> o hey, how's the south pole ? << well technically we only got to just past 60 degrees south latitude, but it was cool. Lots of penguins, whales, killer whales, seals, ice, and mountains. And retirees, on the boat.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: you made it on everyone;s bucket list boat.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19423 @ 0.00042634 = 8.2808 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37677 @ 0.00041373 = 15.5881 BTC [-] {3}
ben_vulpes: but did you you know *make it* in the bucket list boat?
mircea_popescu: innit kinda cold '?
mthreat: lowest temp was about -1 C. It's summer in antarctica.
mthreat: wind is a factor sometimes. highest wind we saw was 60 mph
mircea_popescu: ah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00043051 = 2.1526 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31000 @ 0.00043736 = 13.5582 BTC [+] {4}
pete_dushenski: https://twitter.com/stevejennings1/status/558577556749037569/photo/1 << dear pankkake, we're a culture, not a cult!
assbot: Culture or cult? by /davegray Cc /goonth /petervan /jhagel /TomLaForge /umairh /shelleykuipers /katrynadow /gringreen http://t.co/BmNccK0s6h
mircea_popescu: the difference is negligible.
punkman: all I see is cornholes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15120 @ 0.00042956 = 6.4949 BTC [-]
punkman: https://twitter.com/timkmak/status/565595253319938049/photo/1
assbot: **Putin arrives at airport, gets in line at customs**Customs officer: "Occupation?"Putin: "No, just visiting!" http://t.co/KRn6iYRkkm
cazalla: you guys and your city living
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00041673 = 5.6675 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00041271 = 6.3351 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16931 @ 0.00041127 = 6.9632 BTC [-] {3}
cazalla: !up thestringpuller
thestringpuller: thx cazalla
thestringpuller: how is assets today?
PeterL: quite quiet
thestringpuller: i got ddosed I think. AT&T claimed it was a power surge on their DNS server rack but that didn't make sense
thestringpuller: i hit a netsplit and the second my ip was showing the router started showing a lot of traffic
PeterL: why does freenode show ip addresses anyway?
fluffypony: why do any IRC servers show IP addresses
fluffypony: like it's frikkin 1996
PeterL: seems hard to believe this is the first time somebody used irc ip addresses to target attacks?
mircea_popescu: PeterL because the last tiem anyone thought about this it was 1996, and the next time anyone wil lthink about this it will be to systemdize it
mircea_popescu: this is the first time powerful people were involved in irc, since also 1996.
BingoBoingo: Tried building some stock versions of bitcoin-qt on OpenBSD last night. Here's the tail end of the compiler output where the errors spring forth from: http://dpaste.com/2RDXRT1
assbot: dpaste: 2RDXRT1 ... ( http://bit.ly/16ZY1CZ )
BingoBoingo: Build fine for a while, hit's a brick wall on protocol.cpp
BingoBoingo: ^ Particular instance there was stock 0.5.3
danielpbarron: http://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net/msg07020.html "As such, the blockchain can never support All The Transactions, even
assbot: Re: [Bitcoin-development] replace-by-fee v0.10.0rc4 ... ( http://bit.ly/16ZZ99H )
danielpbarron: if block size increases beyond 20MB."
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: danke BingoBoingo
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: if you want to build on bsd, set the ifdefs as if for mac
BingoBoingo: ascii danke
BingoBoingo: Digging through old porting efforts I get the feeling some linux settings use linux only functions in a pulse audio manner
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7975 @ 0.00041068 = 3.2752 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: ugh pulse audio needs to die
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5157 @ 0.0004104 = 2.1164 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10190 @ 0.00040904 = 4.1681 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 200 @ 0.00540625 = 1.0813 BTC [-] {8}
PeterL: !up thestringpuller
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.9999 BTC for No on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 67.9229 BTC. Current weight: 90,943.
[]bot: Bet placed: 2.9989 BTC for No on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 14(Y):86(N) by weight. Total bet: 70.9218 BTC. Current weight: 90,942.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11536 @ 0.00041993 = 4.8443 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18253 @ 0.00043174 = 7.8806 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: thanks PeterL
mod6: BingoBoingo: you trying to v0.5.3 on BSD?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24789 @ 0.00043756 = 10.8467 BTC [+] {3}
mod6: !up thestringpuller
BingoBoingo: mod6: I'm trying to Bitcoin-qt on BSD. Waiting until night when it's colder so I can compile in the garage so I have more thermal headroom. Unlike the linux I'd been using OpenBSD respects this machine's temperature sensors.
mod6: ah, well anyway, i'm pretty close to having v0.5.3.1 building on freebsd
ascii_field: ditto netbsd
mod6: (having a linking problem related to this: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.6.1/src/util.cpp#L14)
assbot: bitcoin/util.cpp at v0.6.1 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1voFlTE )
BingoBoingo: I'm at the firing in anger stage of quitting linux, so moving the tools I use to OpenBSD.
mod6: but im using boost 1.55, and i think i need to be using 1.42 which is horribru to get working so far.
mod6: anyway, with protocol.cpp:
mod6: add:
mod6: #include <netinet/in.h>
mod6: #include <sys/socket.h>
mod6: at least, that's what I had do to do.
mod6: *had to do
danielpbarron: haha BingoBoingo i have a fan that i clip under my laptop to cool during compiles
thestringpuller: ugh boost is annoying to get working if you don't have the exact version
PeterL: what does boost do?
thestringpuller: It's a C++ extension library
thestringpuller: to add things like threads and other random bullshit
BingoBoingo: It exists because the CPP standard library sucks
thestringpuller: It would be amazing if mod6 and ben_vulpes could rip it out of the code completely
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
PeterL: those are not available in c++?
thestringpuller: no they aren't
thestringpuller: you have to build it yourself or use another library
thestringpuller: and as BingoBoingo just said, CPP standard lib is terrible
thestringpuller: its like libc done wrong ~_~
PeterL: then why do so many people use it?
BingoBoingo: PeterL: Because it is what they get paid to use
thestringpuller: don't think satoshi had a sense of smell for code or would have known he was building bricks from excrement
PeterL: what would you want to build in if you had a choice?
thestringpuller: i would build everything in assembly
thestringpuller: jk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00043159 = 1.7048 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00042107 = 10.0215 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: !up hegemoOn
hegemoOn: thank you
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: !up blz
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00042519 = 1.1055 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: https://www.haiku-os.org/about/faq#top_4 "Haiku is not a Linux distribution, nor does it use the Linux kernel." << is this worth looking into? I don't know much about it.
assbot: General FAQ | Haiku Project ... ( http://bit.ly/17pw1de )
mircea_popescu: might be yes
danielpbarron: lol they take donations through coinbase
danielpbarron: i'm trying to buy a cd but it doesn't look like they sell one
asciilifeform: http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2015/Feb/42
assbot: Full Disclosure: CVE-2014-6412 - WordPress (all versions) lacks CSPRNG ... ( http://bit.ly/17pCkxx )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ^
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: haiku << yet another 'c os', but with questionable posixness and 'we're different because we're special' derp
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: on top of that, x86-32 (yes) only
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19953 @ 0.00042327 = 8.4455 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Haiku >> BeOS resurrection attempt. Neverming that BeOS and the BeBox were Power PC
asciilifeform: beos minus the ui or the commercial softs
asciilifeform: and minus the be.
BingoBoingo: That too
BingoBoingo: And incredibly slow to get to the point of resembling anything, much less being anything https://www.freelists.org/post/haiku/Haiku-selfhosting
assbot: [openbeos] Haiku self-hosting. - openbeos - FreeLists ... ( http://bit.ly/17pFHEu )
asciilifeform: bebox, afaik, never had anything like 1g of ram
asciilifeform: and was famous for smooth real-time interaction
asciilifeform: (film editors, etc.)
asciilifeform: these idiots - don't deserve so much as the time of day.
BingoBoingo: Also bebox was one good looking piece of hardware
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is not news ?
mircea_popescu: kindawhy all the bruteforcing of wp blog admin pws.
asciilifeform: in that sense, not news
asciilifeform: in other news,
asciilifeform: http://i.imgur.com/EuoNzHn.jpg << picked this up for later.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/170EIcO )
asciilifeform: ~17 usd.
asciilifeform: available in qty. $maxint
asciilifeform: (all the ports on the box are visible in the photo)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9598 @ 0.00040889 = 3.9245 BTC [-]
mike_c: oddly hypnotic: http://i.imgur.com/JHBwH3f.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/170FCGc )
jurov: i can't find myself :'(
mike_c: jurov: you're three right of mircea. thestringpuller is crowding you with his long name.
mike_c: https://s3.amazonaws.com/btcalpha/static/foobar.svg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/170HBdB )
jurov: i guessed it right
mike_c: magicaltux is just past 3 o'clock. lots of thick red lines incoming :)
jurov: yes,. guessed that too
jurov: !up brendafdez
jurov: hi brenda
jurov: !up brendafdez
brendafdez: thanks
brendafdez: I was considering seeing that most anyone is running a ponzi scheme on facebook, I wouldn twant to miss out, but your opinion on the matter would be greatly appreciated. What would you consider an appropriate domain name?
brendafdez: Either for the ponzi scheme or for a perosnal blog, i'm still not sure which one to do first ;)
brendafdez: i did read the DNS post, thankfully my own name and the domain i use for pretty much everything start with br already
jurov: lol why us?
brendafdez: because
jurov: !s forlorn
assbot: 1 results for 'forlorn' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=forlorn
jurov: ^my ideas, free to use
BingoBoingo: !b 9
assbot: Last 9 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2DTS8R8.txt )
brendafdez: ^facebook^bitcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00040889 = 5.152 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: brendafdez: If you really want to run a ponzi scheme you might be better off on Friendster. Facebook is pretty much a law enforcement honeypot anymore.
brendafdez: I meant bitcoin instead of facebook, I trid to replace the word later ;)
BingoBoingo: And ponzi schemes are so passe. Better just go back to the old Black Hand racket.
jurov: brendafdez: won't you rather do an affiliate for honest-to-God dice game?
brendafdez: provable fairness is not my cup of tea
jurov: !b 1
assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/14P0T6H.txt )
brendafdez: well, honestly, i was kidding with the ponzi scheme, even though I own the domain ponzify.me which i think will serve me well sometime in the future. During a bad hangover I thought it would be a good idea to so something there, along the lines of a game which simulates a ponzi scheme, but open and hones, where all funds received in each round are distributed in their entirety, and I only profit from a small fee deducted from each, and the hash
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://i.imgur.com/EuoNzHn.jpg << picked this up for later. << cool! deck of cards cca. 1955
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/170NIyE )
jurov: http://bitcoinpyramid.com/ << brendafdez, old idea
assbot: Bitcoin Pyramid ... ( http://bit.ly/170NTtJ )
brendafdez: oh :(
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/02/bill-would-ban-federal-employees-from-porn-breaks-at-work/
mod6: mike_c: that's an awesome graph. did you generate that?
cazalla: brendafdez, don't the good ideas come prior to the hang over?
brendafdez: if they were to come i wouldn't care much about the timing
mike_c: mod6: yeah
mod6: very cool
[]bot: Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "BTC to rally to $4000 before July 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1026/ Odds: 8(Y):92(N) by coin, 10(Y):90(N) by weight. Total bet: 16.0199 BTC. Current weight: 38,912.
[]bot: Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 13(Y):87(N) by coin, 14(Y):86(N) by weight. Total bet: 72.9218 BTC. Current weight: 90,906.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 222.35, vol: 7415.36814229 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 217.941, vol: 5730.36662 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 221.85, vol: 19876.98211105 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 219.48109, vol: 107921.39720000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 223.99999, vol: 2.519 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 228.985819772, vol: 36.72501356 | Volume-weighted last average: 219.905934254
decimation: asciilifeform, others with interest < apparently Oracle/Sun still produce sparc chips, they shipped 7000 units in Q3 2014! http://www.itworld.com/article/2883087/oracle-says-it-still-fully-supports-the-sparc-processor.html
assbot: Oracle says it still fully supports the Sparc processor | ITworld ... ( http://bit.ly/170Rwjk )
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3934 @ 0.00076217 = 2.9984 BTC [-] {5}
BingoBoingo: decimation: "rent seeking"
mod6: this is the ongoing battle for fbsd: http://dpaste.com/2G50MYJ
assbot: dpaste: 2G50MYJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1zQcc9q )
decimation: mod6: does it work on openbsd?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25237 @ 0.00040889 = 10.3192 BTC [-]
mod6: decimation: so, a guy had some patches to make it build on obsd and it's on github, but it's like v0.9x iirc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.0004084 = 7.1674 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: last I remember, I asked in here and BB was using a forward version on obsd that he got working, but he said it wasn't stable.
mod6: no real big effort has been undertaken to get the RI (v0.5.3.1) on to openbsd yet.
mod6: I put like 8-10 hours into it in the beginning of January, but got side tracked before I got too far.
decimation: I had it running (0.5.3) on openbsd awhile ago
decimation: but it was using older libraries
mod6: how did it work for you?
mod6: ah
mod6: like old boost?
mod6: or bdb?
decimation: yes I think so
decimation: I remember using the boost/bdb that was available on the ports
ben_vulpes: <thestringpuller> It would be amazing if mod6 and ben_vulpes could rip it out of the code completely << i like how you're implying i know anything about cpp
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
mod6: did it require any patches to source?
decimation: a couple of header things
decimation: and some makefile repair
mod6: yeah, ok, seems about the same as fbsd
mod6: yup.
mod6: ok.
ben_vulpes: <mike_c> [] https://s3.amazonaws.com/btcalpha/static/foobar.svg << neat
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/170HBdB )
decimation: I would be surprised if they were remarkably different, other than the versions of supporting libs
mod6: i guess i can give it a shot. because im out of ideas on this bug on fbsd.
mod6: i've got a obsd 5.6 vm
decimation: I think I blew away my obsd 5.6 vm
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32600 @ 0.00040764 = 13.2891 BTC [-] {2}
decimation: sigh, I need to configure a bouncer
ben_vulpes: what bouncers does everyone use?
ben_vulpes: i'm currently using znc and i hate hate HATE it.
decimation: I donno. I've been looking around and there don't seem to be very many maintained bouncers
ben_vulpes: znc is a laggy buggy piece of shit
decimation: it doesn't seem like a very hard problem
ben_vulpes: i was very happy when i was running an emacs irc client on a remote host over mosh.
decimation: irc seems to be about 100x more complicated than it needs to be
decimation: ben_vulpes: why not go back to that?
ben_vulpes: but then i got all grumpy about having to maintain multiple sets of finger macros for the emacs-in-terminal vs the emacs-in-xserver
decimation: ah
ben_vulpes: decimation: i don't know that this was a good decision.
ben_vulpes: maybe i should run an x server on the remote host as well!
decimation: yeah I think I would pick the finger-macros
decimation: nah, x over laggy network sucks
ben_vulpes: mk well nm then.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37450 @ 0.00040757 = 15.2635 BTC [-]
decimation: if you are gonna go that route you might as well use vnc or other 'slim' window-network protocol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31850 @ 0.00041715 = 13.2862 BTC [+]
decimation: ben_vulpes: did you figure out how to get erc to use sasl?
decimation: the documentation I found was sparse
decimation: !up thestringpuller
thestringpuller: thanks decimation
decimation: !up TheNewDeal
ben_vulpes: decimation: i did at one point.
TheNewDeal: Gratzi
decimation: emacs is great, but it is annoying how you have dick around with the settings for certain poorly written extensions sometimes
ben_vulpes: s/emacs/oss
decimation: aye
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22050 @ 0.00040757 = 8.9869 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: x over laggy network sucks << unless one (or both) endpoints is in orbit, or at sea, there is really no excuse for this
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 111 @ 0.00935 = 1.0379 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: portaturd still has wallet.dat?
asciilifeform: sure
asciilifeform: nobody snipped the wallet
thestringpuller: I wonder when my pogo buttplugs are coming.
thestringpuller: mike_c: now you see the pain with my graph :P
decimation: re laggy X < asciilifeform do you often experience sub 100 ms latencies?
asciilifeform: nope
asciilifeform: see above.
asciilifeform: or wait
asciilifeform: sub?
asciilifeform: sure
decimation: I guess my network sucks
ben_vulpes: oh my network sucks
ben_vulpes: i take that as a given
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56800 @ 0.00040757 = 23.15 BTC [-]
TheNewDeal: ;;Bids 216.9
gribble: Bitstamp | There are currently 1672.5535 bitcoins demanded at or over 216.9 USD, worth 365825.458696 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0232 seconds
TheNewDeal: ;;Ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 221.93, Best ask: 222.23, Bid-ask spread: 0.30000, Last trade: 222.23, 24 hour volume: 7341.41273175, 24 hour low: 218.01, 24 hour high: 223.38, 24 hour vwap: 221.330426469
decimation: !up thestringpuller
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00041557 = 3.9064 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2241 @ 0.00075009 = 1.681 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 228 @ 0.00551997 = 1.2586 BTC [+] {14}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00041565 = 6.3179 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 204 @ 0.00577271 = 1.1776 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: i've got a script to pull archives, verify and patch on Linux/FreeBSD/OpenBSD. Will only compile it on Linux since we're not quite there yet on *BSD, give it a try, let me know how it goes:
mod6: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=KEdQ3NLe
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1E6aK2n )
thestringpuller: ick a perl script
thestringpuller: mod6: have been born before 1985 :D
thestringpuller: jkjk
thestringpuller: <3
mod6: there is a subroutine in there to check on the openssl version, but that needs some work yet. so its commented out from execution.
thestringpuller: it looks pretty tho
mod6: and OpenBSD seems to be using "LibreSSL 2.0" by default
mod6: thestringpuller: haha
thestringpuller: how long did it take to write this script? looks more like a binary than just s cript :P
mod6: this is the 8th version.
mod6: v1-4 took like 1 evening maybe 2. spent another whole day getting it working on FreeBSD, and just an hour or two now on OpenBSD
mod6: it was pretty quick over all.
mod6: i'd much rather program this type of stuff in perl as opposed to sh/bash/ksh/csh/tcsh/zsh/ash *stab*
thestringpuller: how do I set home?
thestringpuller: "HOME directory not set"
thestringpuller: $HOME is set to my user home
mod6: should be line 41
mod6: or search the file for XXX
mod6: also if you want it to not clean out the stuff that it builds with, change $FULL_CLEAN to FALSE
thestringpuller: do I need to download any thing or does it download everything i need?
mod6: in 1985 i was crushing other kidz in pitfall
thestringpuller: the only good game for atari it seems
thestringpuller: now I want o play that
mod6 grabs rope and swings over alligator
thestringpuller: it's not checking for my os
thestringpuller: :(
thestringpuller: checkOS(); << that's not printing anything for me
mod6: what are you running it on?
decimation: maybe it will compile on osx as a side effect
thestringpuller: dmesg | grep -e ".*\\s+Linux version (.*)\\s+.*" << this returns zilch for me
thestringpuller: i'm on debian 7
mod6: eh, yeah, i probably need to tidy that up a bit.
mod6 tinkers
thestringpuller: can I just override to make it "linux"
decimation: pitfall was pretty classic
thestringpuller: lets see if it compiles mr. six of modulo
thestringpuller: "Compiling bitcoind..."
mod6: guess i tried to get too cute with that line, just change it to this:
mod6: dmesg | grep -e ".*Linux.*"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22786 @ 0.00040757 = 9.2869 BTC [-]
mod6: ill update it on my side if that works better
thestringpuller: script is currently running right now
thestringpuller: i'll change it if it fails
thestringpuller: but looks like its compiling
thestringpuller: i have all old libs needed to compile bitcoind 0.72 downloaded (boost and stuff) so it should chug on some level
thestringpuller: i really wish I could see the compilation output
thestringpuller: why is it being swallowed?
mod6: the current hypothesis is that if you're not running 1.0.1g openssl you'll wedge @ 168,001
mod6: on a bad signature
mod6: for this tx: https://blockchain.info/tx/2c2314f353013f920d8fbfde242d7d23ba4cb9b97dc24f481dd0ccfd8f56324c?show_adv=true
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 2c2314f353013f920d8fbfde242d7d23ba4cb9b97dc24f481dd0ccfd8f56324c ... ( http://bit.ly/1vHBebe )
mod6: thestringpuller: eh, i could put it to stdout. just figured that it was cleaner without it. but i can add it.
thestringpuller: really? that transaction requires openssl to verify?!?
thestringpuller: how was alf able to get pogoturd up to to date?
mod6: after a week of banging my head on the wall, that seems to be the thing that gets me and ben past the wall.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: up to date ?
thestringpuller: isn't version on pogoturd derived from foundations codebase?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: notice that 'portatronic' recipe featured 1.0.1g
thestringpuller: Oh i see.
mod6: well, the really strange thing is that it totally isnt consistant. just as recently as the 26th of January I completed full sync with v0.5.3 + patches { 1, rm_rf_upnp, 2, 3, 4, & 6 } and openssl v0.9.8o
thestringpuller continues browsing mailing archive
mod6: its all in the logs and there's a permutation matrix, etc.
asciilifeform: i have not tried it with any other version of openssl
mod6: it'll be in the end month report... for sure
thestringpuller: maybe I missed the memo, but what does openssl do in the context of bitcoind?
thestringpuller: i.e. why?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: 1) (the biggie) ecdsa signature verification & creation
asciilifeform: 2) wallet crypt with aes
mod6: yeah crypto routines
mod6: someone posted a comment in the powerranger github about a change to DER
mod6 looks
mod6: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2015#1014126
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2015 01:29:45; assbot: Improve robustness of DER recoding code · f19dded · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1AQYAMP )
mod6: anyway, im not sure yet.
mod6: more research is required
thestringpuller: kinda weird how older clients naturally won't have heartbleed
thestringpuller: s/weird/conspicuous
thestringpuller: s/won't/wouldn't have had/
asciilifeform: at any rate, no https, no heartbleed
thestringpuller: hearn wanted to merge that in iirc, something about 2-factor?
thestringpuller: mod6: it compiled
thestringpuller: I gotta run it as a different user tho cause I'm running another bitcoind rite nao
mod6: nice
thestringpuller: unless you can set where bitcoind puts .bitcoin directory?
mod6: ok made the update in here (v0.0.8.1):
mod6: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=BCBvCVrG
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1vHC2wA )
mod6: sure, you can put .bitcoin where ever you like and just do like `./bitcoind -datadir=/path/to/.bitcoin -daemon -debug &`
thestringpuller: will it `mkdir .bitcoin` on the directory or do I have to do it myself?
mod6: bitcoind will use ~/.bitcoin by default
mod6: so you probably wanna do `mkdir -p /path/to/.bitcoin`
danielpbarron: you can specify directory with -datadir=
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12279 @ 0.00040757 = 5.0046 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: oh someone said
mod6: ok, im gotta try to patch up this thing on openbsd and see if i can get anywhere.
mod6: aight, patched up, installing boost 1.53 on obsd
mod6: we'll see.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29250 @ 0.00040816 = 11.9387 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.00040816 = 7.4897 BTC [+]
mod6: getting close: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=NizDiqXj
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1vHEqU5 )
mod6: i might have to build boost 1.42 by hand. the horror.
mod6: the horror.
mod6: boost_thread is in there though... o_O
mod6: # ls /usr/local/include/boost/thr
mod6: thread.hpp thread/
mod6: oh weird.
mod6: it worked
thestringpuller: an hour passes
thestringpuller: how quick the time moves
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00040745 = 6.8655 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: you need the red-ring and the magical swoard & shield for this type of thing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00040816 = 1.7959 BTC [+]
mod6: FUCK. YES. \o/
mod6: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6hyK8VrD
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1vHFoQe )
TheNewDeal: Conrad references and bitcoind buolds... only in #ba
TheNewDeal: Errr I guess I'm not sure if that line is ib the book
mod6: you gotta love this
mod6: /home/mod6/dev/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/src/util.cpp:692: warning: strcpy() is almost always misused, please use strlcpy()

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