(trilema) ben_vulpes: we made our own spinning fin cans at one point! garage bearing races of... 0.2m diameter!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'twas a fine introduction to what could be done in a garage without the military overhead.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: minuteman << did you ever read into the 'amateur' rocketry group with whom i dorked around for a while in undergrad?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whoa, all statically linked?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps of that scale.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 10x.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: imagining -> expecting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: re 4004: i'm imagining devices at least 10x that scale.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: what are you running tonight?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if the goal is "compute by the yard", make more yards, not smaller compute.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: customary densities are a product of red queen dynamics.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [] but to somehow lay out electrical logic elements at the customary densities without resort to a $1B factory. << for the record, this is a hobble.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: safe and secure in the ca government's hands.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fuck joseph david.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: re: cavirtex hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ty nevertheless
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just 'cause this one has css doesn't change the selection process.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i did learn how to read a datasheet in the mines.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: in what interesting and special ways *does* it suck?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: waaaaa
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> i'm renting a physical (yes) box for ~25 usd / mo << wherewherewhere
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myes, i've been brutalized by it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now, i beg pardon for my ignorance, but could not this model be adapted to the cd rw?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: as the chains moved through the boxes, the boxes flipped bits on each link
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i recall a story from a stephenson book, about a machine that computed with chains run through computing boxes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also, depends on the degree of cleanliness required.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 500 - whole buildings
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "garbage fab"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;ud hooby
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BE USEFUL
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah learn you a common lisp or something
(trilema) ben_vulpes: such a cheery morning to you all!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ratings season!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they do anyways
(trilema) ben_vulpes: let 'em squirm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps next time i take a whack at my bush i'll sculpt it into a cockbrow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was hoping for a /mircea_popescu eyes a cockbrow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that one was for you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: people copying content have no taste
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah man this goes back to why a btc torrent thinger isn't worthwhile
(trilema) ben_vulpes cocks an eyebrow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yet trivially available on UToob
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have no context or anything to judge music against.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, i said i have no idea if it's any good.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well and how would you know?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'tisn't as though i ever had good taste in music beat into me.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how would I know...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: from the piracy lulzmine: Patton's /Peeping Tom/ is nowhere to be found on the public trackers, yet trivially available on UToob
(trilema) ben_vulpes: stahp it hurts
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unsurprisingly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is ridiculous on the face of it, but young american men are more interested in solving simple nonexistent problems with tech than solving big complex hairy ones.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just the USian bias - herr presidente sez no guns, ergo it's impossible to get guns
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sorry for wacky posts, arms are jelly from pushups
(trilema) ben_vulpes: by april"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hm there's the "any exit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nm nm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: rejected grexit bets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: links plz?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: grexit nao?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-16/euro-area-finance-ministers-talks-with-greece-break-up-on-rift << grexit when
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fukkin fukkin fukkin
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fukkin clients
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fukkin cashflow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fukkin pay as you go taxes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fukkin payroll
(trilema) ben_vulpes: split?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'fyiad' << worst part about living here is the misery endured to scrape food credits together
(trilema) ben_vulpes: qa for the foundation - what a gig
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and my poor aws instance is laaaaaboring
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and a more-or-less patched-up-to-date-with-mailing-list dynamically linked build
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm endeavoring to sync a portatronic build
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 0.7.2.W
(trilema) ben_vulpes: do you even have your keys handy?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up pete_dushenski
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i'll let you know when i get there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good job, boys.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so the towelheads humilated kaspersky, sending him to twitter for help?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dictionary* attacks i mean to say.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: man security world must be even more esl than i was given to understand
(trilema) ben_vulpes: password attacks don't cross languages?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell the_scourge hey ninjashogun managed to crap more lines into the log over a longer time than you. howzat feel?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there was this hilarious embedded ram arms race
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also had all the sony cd players that did mp3s before portable hdds were a thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also had a creative jukebox
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cazalla: i had a rio riot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: twice!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm in the top 12 for the past twelve months
(trilema) ben_vulpes: HAH
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which reminds me: http://stats.bitcoin-assets.com/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gotta leave something between the lines.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now ives is steering things and they're trumpeting their solar deals, working on 'watches' and spreading rumors about tesla acquisitions.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: apple only worked because there was one guy at the helm.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what, you think i don't get this?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: had a great internal db.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and it was *fast*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: glowed this beautiful neon orange.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the buttons were physically separated from the scroll wheel
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this was actually the best design they ever produced.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah, no it's there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.atpm.com/9.08/ipod.shtml << here we go
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT1353 << this page is actually omitting the best ipod that was ever released
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-COLLECTORS-Apple-iPod-classic-2ND-Generation-MAC-10-GB-ORIGINAL-BOX-/181536114101?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a446545b5
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i gave one away recently
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aw, really?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i used nearly every mpwhater whatever object during that time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: those early ipods were phenomenally well designed.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.goethe.de/ges/umw/prj/kuk/fot/roj/enindex.htm << apropos of nothing, really
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whatever the fuck that means
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 12.0.1.26
(trilema) ben_vulpes: baffling.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is topologically identical to the "Surface" shitshow, where when the retarded windows touch ui gets in your way you can get rid of it and go back to classic windows, with which one interacts with a stylus.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and the old ui returns, nearly unmolested
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if you switch to "songs" view then the right arrow does the expected thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh wait
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: highlights the next album, displaying its tracklist.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: another amusing tidbit from apple's wholesale collapse in quality on the desktop: no longer does the right arrow in iToonz skip to the next track.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now there's a great conspiraci(!) theory
(trilema) ben_vulpes: these unqualified pronouns don't work too well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mmeyer: "it" << what, though?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up Vexual
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mmeyer> quite in here << you did make it, yes :P
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mmeyer, eh?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'tis another knob to turn. if instead of rewriting the bastard storage mechanism, one could leverage the network protocol to reduce the number of bastards per wad sent over the wire, it might alleviate some pain.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: re: bastards, has anyone experimented with the number of blocks requested?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd no idea, actually.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah ha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what does it buy one?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Adlai: what's the goal of running multiple bots in the same lisp image?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh the life of a webdev monkey
(trilema) ben_vulpes: comment blocks left unchanged
(trilema) ben_vulpes: variable names changed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: found thirty lines copied 3 times each
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> shoul;dn't that really be a function/object/we ? << being a bit sarcastic here boss
(trilema) ben_vulpes: reusable code means code you can copy and paste elsewhere in your codebase
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i dismiss the upgrade notification each and ev-er-y day.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: PeterL: kudos to you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: .1 btc sez it's because i refuse to upgrade to 10.10
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the amusing thing is how their "airdrop" shit doesn't work either.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: on mine as well.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sharing is on.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: PeterL: i'm pretty savvy with the os x shit.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: way to break functionality that's just worked.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good job apple.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: he can't even see mine from his machine.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can see the guy's laptop, can't even open the "dropbox".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fucking nothing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: functionality that's worked for what, a decade?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i just tried to share a folder from one mac to another
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just...slander
(trilema) ben_vulpes: still can if you want to
(trilema) ben_vulpes: slander!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> so war on drugs that are powders ? gases are ok ? << don't forget plants
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lady v loved cunt-in-a-box btw
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh great
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lots of lulz and drama to be had there.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or macronutrient ratios?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have we done exercise strategies yet?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i missed ya
(trilema) ben_vulpes: welcome back nubbins`
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "Why, he will be castigated by the authority, cast out by the other doctors, and no longer be able to call himself a doctor." << rarely happens in the ussa, but this place is a hellhole.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what a time to be alive.
(trilema) ben_vulpes goes to bed, asciilifeform goes to rebuild the universe.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: stake?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who is drepper anyways?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: disregard i eat cocks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is drepper the shitgnome or did drepper find the thing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: me neither.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ABSOLUTELY UNRELATED
(trilema) ben_vulpes: end of times and all that fun stuff.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wai wut? i thought bezzling was a good thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#L210 ... https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.7.2/src/rpcblockchain.cpp#L12
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "disproportionate" is in there too.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bb's trollin.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am not accustomed to being responsible for female cleanliness!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've always been amused by the "bend over and get it wet" approach, but i'm a total noob.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: post your x86 auto.sh on the listserv ? << any reason to not run with -xeu?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> and yet you savages still don't have cunt basins as a regular fixture, amirite ? << why's the shower so inadequate?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my stovetop vent vents into the apartment.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <thestringpuller> asciilifeform: random question. If someone paid for you to take Buterin's C4 (Certified Bitcoin Professional) exam, would you do it? << wait, CBP is a Buterin project?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> i carried it. << btcauditor when
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's the context of all the "schoolgirls"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Whenever it came time for his daily bowl of soup he would look around for the nearest "girl" and ask if she would fetch it to him. It did not matter if she was the cook, an engineer, or the president of the company. I once asked a female engineer who had just been a victim of this if it bothered her. "Yes, it really annoys me," she said. "On the other hand, he is the only one who ever explained quantum mechanics to me as if I could
(trilema) ben_vulpes: understand it."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wolfram worked with feynman at Thinking Machines?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: p funny
(trilema) ben_vulpes: real20m17.054s
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: time ./auto.sh
(trilema) ben_vulpes recompiles on local vm with actual beef to it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aside from having the thing actually be programmable, but that's apparently a nonstarter in our world.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the only pills i'm aware of are pouring capital into refining the interface and training the intended customers.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd no idea that compiling a static bitcoind would take quite so much memory. then again, it's loading all of boost and dbb and openssl - does all of the above need to reside in memory at the same time?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: again, shlomiel.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pauper's vps.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: obj, obj, obj...Killed.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, 'twas all.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ram, likely.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (subject of the portatron: "g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus) ")
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: and did you spend a similar amount of time attempting to 'work' the same way in 'the gimp'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my mind is blown.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and i mean for hours, weeks at a stretch?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: have you ever worked with photoshop, illustrator et al?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: every little feature squireled away a million menus down
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh jesus this is going to be like gimp isn't it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah hey freecad looks okay
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can't recall if i ever bumped into freecad.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'trololol' < i suppose that part sheets, dimensional tolerancing and what have you are part of my base assumptions for part fab.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one of the things that gently nudged me into my current slavery
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the best part about labview is how once a person builds a reasonably complex thing in it they and only they can really understand where all the pipes go and where all the data is and how control moves around
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh jesus labview
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "does it fit" << doubly so in the context of assemblies.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 6-axis doolie to move the object around in space; select faces and planes on which to draw shapes and sweep/extrude them through space.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: it's actually very fast and intuitive once you've learned the interfaces.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !s co-processor from:asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's one of those few interfacing problems that i don't really think is suited to a textual abstraction.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i wasn't programming when i was a hot modeler.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, i don't know.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mm but pure text part description?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and in fact that is how good part design should be done.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: they both support defining parts parametrically.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that you gotta check against single dimension approximations to make sure it's not haring off into impossiblespace
(trilema) ben_vulpes: full multiphysics sims
(trilema) ben_vulpes: inventor fusion's pretty sweet.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: last time i checked the answer to "assemblies?" was "lolwut" and i stopped paying attention.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it has been a few years since i looked at the "open" cadcam "solutions".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: although the notion that you can design any 3d part of any utility without inventor or solidworks is pretty lulzy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it ain't under vibratory load or anything
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh just beef it up some
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> where'd ya get the O2 O3 combo << shlomiel moment
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: CXXFLAGS=-O2 -std=c++03 -> CXXFLAGS=-O2 -O3 << is this braindamage of my own design?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all these old names popping up.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a RagnarDanneskjol!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: looks bad for the back.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've more or less given up at this point.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: i've wasted 3 days over the past two weeks trying to get a modern browser to boot into x11 for os x.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they're not real keys, as far as i care.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure, why not.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "fix this issue with your keys?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the apple binary signing process is hilaribad.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: other people in the shop use the apple toolchain and the android toolchain. all i ever do with those is "turn the right nut" when it comes to "signing" binaries for apple/google and cutting builds.