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(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski another translation challenger appears: http://trilema.com/2010/inca-o-pozitie-sexuala/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: has the unexpected advantage of making alf barf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it nominally offers a lot over standard cl cffi, but i have not verified that myself.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390963 << look into clasp then, i'd just started digging into it when asciilifeform released shiva
(trilema) ben_vulpes: diana_coman: no hard requirement, sure, i just imagine that replacing the crystalspace client's going to be no small pile of reverse engineering. i say this knowing nothing about the cs server/client software relationship.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform plans to use it to inspect memory of running bitcoinds in real time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: diana_coman: i doubt you'll move the client away from cpp, but tinyscheme is a potential route to embedding scheme /in/ the existing client.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell diana_coman ^^
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell jurov and eulorans et al you might want to look into this tinyscheme thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000201.html << i swear i saw some mentione of this earlier but cannot find it now. for those playing along at home, the sig name for these patches that will please v.pl is <patchname>.vpatch.<signatory's_wot_handle>.asc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah wait no that wasn't ak47.sh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: you could always contribute to b,tmsr's deficit by standing the jenkins instance up yourself.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: scripting the whole process in the context of "continuous integration servers" is nifty, but finding the noob caltrops is also important.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dunno man i don't actually think it's of much value. having actual humans in the actual wot build things is much more important.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this was god i don't know how many months ago
(trilema) ben_vulpes: funnily enough i just nuked its builddir
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a full sync of each bitcoind produced by each patch sent to the ml
(trilema) ben_vulpes: another entry in the long list of things i've written that never made it into the truck
(trilema) ben_vulpes: never for battle
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a well polished bash turd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and buildroot handily obsoleted ak47.sh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: v.lisp has just been languishing on the island of poorly written and embarassing software
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i shut the jenkins down because full syncs of each patch was prohibitively resource and time intensive and parallelized poorly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: jenkins? or v.lisp?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: probably any non-vpatch file'd do the trick.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mod6 stick a random file with .html suffix in the patches dir to reproduce the stale gnupg dir big
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is probably a purposes and causes thing, huh. avoid working towards the purpose of usable software for other people, and proceed from the cause of "hell is other people's code"...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is everyone who hacks on this thing to write and use their own vtronic cockpit controls? or is the production of /a/ vtron usable in other contexts a goal?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am struck by a question i find interesting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mod6 alternatively, consider using mktemp -d
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mod6 i got v.pl into a weird place where it didn't clean up its gnupg tempdir. perhaps consider using an "exit_gracefully" function where you're currently simply "die"-ing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ever share it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: vit's a v.py descendant, correct?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well one is prefixed with the stupid unix hidden-file/dir period convention
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, while we're ripping the rug out from under mod6, is there a good reason to continue with the inconsistent directory structure of `./.seals' and `./patches'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: "he's a good man, and thorough"
(trilema) ben_vulpes goes digging through the gui for "never ever fucking toss my scrollback option"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but this fucking term just lost my motherfucking scrollback, because people reinventing wheels for os x have no historical context
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: nah, because i get "good signature from korsgaard"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: by my read 'rebase' as mircea_popescu uses it means 'dump into the v tree'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "gpg: WARNING: not a detached signature; file `buildroot-2015.05.tar.gz' was NOT verified!"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: has anyone else noticed the following when using build-bitcoind-9999*K.sh?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yo mod6 what does it mean in perl to do my $var = "string" . \n "otherstring" is the period a linebreak escape in perl, and the variable implicitly a concatenation of the two strings?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.northofreality.com/secrets/ << bit of a shame that aramcheck's not in the wot and on patreon, i like his weirdfic.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is "the leyla black"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'm using trinque's experimental makefiles.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: build-bitcoind-whateverk.sh?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell trinque i may be exceptionally retarded today, but is there a reason why shit/Manifest.sha256 doesn't contain a hash for buildroot?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm just fumbling in the dark
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm struggling to build a cohesive mental model for the right way to approach this gordian knot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform likes to scream about how dumb the keyring is
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell trinque hey buddy looks like your makefiles depend on keys in the personal keyring
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: do you expect me to have korsgaard's key in my personal keyring when running build-bitcoind-V99996K.sh?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > read buildroot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so what is the thing to be done with korsgaard's key?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey, stan's bouncer died!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: deedbot.org script mentioned above i believe uses asciilifeform's old key
(trilema) ben_vulpes: some truth in it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's a joke!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "read everything on the mailing list and call me in the morning"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: think they're going to try the sterile males trick?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (and the wget 0day!)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: is this mod6's svgerator or your own?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, messy.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha, that's what i thought!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: rather than including procurement of deps in the build scripts, force users to actually download the deps themselves.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: idem for the vpatches.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a small step to the disc would be to slam buildroot, openssl, bdb and boost into a tar.gz and stick it on the website.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm with stan, fwiw.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or rather, i'd like that.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we should really do a bsd, and sell the discs for a bitdime each.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tres nervous.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (reminds me a bit of the "check every return code" naggum line)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eyy, mod6 so i just spun up v.pl on a new box and despite wget not being installed v.pl still claims successful sync
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am unconvinced that the six months have been paid, or that if they have any impression has been made.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: first: node.js. second: "naw, vpatches are for faggots". third: 2.5kloc patch degendering reference implementation log statements.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388910 << and to think i was trying to gently guide the keyid in question to enlightenment
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but black is the only acceptable dry-erase color.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389171 << i have floor-to-ceiling mirrors, on which i use expos liberally for maths lessons for the girl and alphabet lessons for the kid
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6 and trinque as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform in particular
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389544 << i would also dearly like to hear about the setups people have in place for hacking on this codebase
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389489 << would it make sense to do this with edge-per-file and filenames on the edges?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh phf this is lovely
(trilema) ben_vulpes: saying "no" to a hundred thousand dollars from Conde Nast is worth approximately 5x the bezzlebuxx in question.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389453 << let me tell you, the look of astonishment, disbelief, and 'omg my priors' on $admingurl's face when i told her i valued publishing the ssl piece under my own name so highly that no terrestrial rag could afford to buy it from me was udderly priceless
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski 'hysterical raisins'!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell cazalla hey you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_butugychag: unless it's the magic bits to dump the launch codes back down the pipe
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (unrelated: www.northofreality.com/tales/2016/1/27/wealth-appreciation)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: their blog has even gone to spamseed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it looked better than prb back in the day
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and deserves more of a place in the lgos.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it was inadequately articulated for my taste.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: automation is productive waste.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it is the hole through which distraction slips in and focus dribbles out.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the fifteen second interruption has mega cognitive costs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just wait the thirty seconds randomly five times per event, having a spare on hand will never pay off.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a whole gurl just to supply extra canes in case yours hangs?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but the w4ste!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: spur* of the moment exercise.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: programming similarly is not a supur of the moment.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: running cane - demands pause.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no - /in session/.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you'd probably snap the thing in half
(trilema) ben_vulpes: imagine you have to wait for your cane to become useful for a minute randomly during a beating
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_butugychag: these lisp tentacles are rather spiffy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: polarbeard: do i still fail to make myself clear?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: removing dead code is good, far better than rewriting the log lines. just split it out so that it can be reviewed seperately from the two thousand five hundred and ninety odd other lines of that patch.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: definitely split the actual muntzing out into its own patch instead of complecting it with the rest of the work. i might be able to read and meditate on that patch.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: he also wanted to tabbify the whole thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "this 2.6kloc patch rewrites every log line in the reference implementation, in support of further work i'm doing on" etc etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hell, submit it to the ml for posterity, i believe you have the wot rating for that.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you realize this is a 3kloc patch.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the problem with a patch of this size is that my face wearies of reading myriad log lines changed for seemingly aesthetic reasons, and i fear that even a close read will miss an underhanded c contestant.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what you want to reconstruct full state at any point in time?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's wrong with gdb
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one develops a sense for what happens where in the codebase watching logs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and for what it's worth i actually like seeing the function names in the logs. i know i could just grep for the log messages, but it's another way to get familiar with the codebase.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that is a lot of delta to review for i don't precisely know what value
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this'd probably be best delivered as 2 vpatches: one where you rearrange the deck chairs in the log messages, and another where you muntz out the rotator
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what does snet in a printf mean?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: AND I SHALL LOL
(trilema) ben_vulpes: repubtards are gonna say "los federales gunned down a confused old man stumbling around in the snow!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: libruls are gonna say "he was endangering a good honest policeman!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unless they shot him before 9:30 his hands are at his waist
(trilema) ben_vulpes: look closer, danielpbarron, watch like three more times
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ugh mircea_popescu's line about software only working at a point in time is so entirely fucking timely
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the WHOLE MOTHERFUCKING WORLD is conspiring to rip the rug out from otherwise entirely stable software
(trilema) ben_vulpes: arcane linker errors coming from the "pods"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh and xcode won't build our flagship project on my computer for some completely inscrutable reason
(trilema) ben_vulpes: verily, i live in the modern windows.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also restarting the computer fixed "Photos"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "it's to ease context-switching" devs in the room witnessing my astonishment attempt to tell me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and lo a url i was just looking at in chrome on the phone opens in chrome on the browser
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i click this chrome icon out of a morbid fascination
(trilema) ben_vulpes: consisting SOLELY of a GOOGLE CHROME icon
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so today i open my bezzleputer, and discover a SECOND DOCK
(trilema) ben_vulpes: still actually slaving away fixing containerization horseshit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nifty many-handed work, asciilifeform.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: interesting, ascii_butugychag, getting oom'd doesn't result in an immediate process kill?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: those aren't boobs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: will dig through logs later
(trilema) ben_vulpes: reference impl appears to still be running
(trilema) ben_vulpes: woke up to this: "errors" : "EXCEPTION: St9bad_alloc \nstd::bad_alloc \nbitcoin in ProcessMessage() \n"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dafuq, even taxes aren't mandatory around here.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, 'mandatory' is a bit of a joke.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have, at least twice now.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that nobody's seen fit to implement gpg session auth is not my problem
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "no sig, not me."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: using "password" as a password should be mandatory.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or mircea_popescu's salt mine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "People complained recently that we wrote some shitty software. Statement self-declared to be irrelevant to the accusations, hey look a shiny!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: do y'all have "mandatory reporters" in yurp and misc. other "civilized nayshuns"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (although who uses one without the other i do not know)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's not RUBY it's RAILS
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dems da woist
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > 252450 << lo it doth haunt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll buy you a beer and a blunt after your interview
(trilema) ben_vulpes: any idea what department?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good people over ther.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: with whom?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: x11 is best x
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is that a head and shoulders or death cross or some other technical trading thing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's a classic, i'm a bit surprised.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !s quality without a name
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !s 100 year editor
(trilema) ben_vulpes: os 10 is an operating system for today, not forever
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i determined tonight that 10.6 is entirely unuseable
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: heh okay you got a laugh out of me with that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but will it compile boost?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in another universe i'd be entirely happy with seven.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo and his obsession with dead operating systems
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am now apparently engaged in an exercise to determine what the oldest version of os x is that can be beaten into supporting software development
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the abominable variable naming alignment, yes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: polarbeard: huh i had no idea editors needed plugins to do that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: only reasonable style guide for this codebase is "make it look like the lines immediately above and below"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: indentation is poetry in any lisp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am still anti-tab, delimiter token hoojaberry aside
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right but if we stick to the old impl the audit is no longer required.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: still 'fine'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i will point out that changing to the wrapper implementation implies audits to be done of the implementation delta.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm stalking your log progress
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "father's pistols"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: thoughts on ecdsa calls?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: entire code base is almost guaranteed to be in conflict with any style guide unfortunately.
(trilema) ben_vulpes checks todo list
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: are you referring to fixing the magic numbers?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps fixing magic numbers is out of scope for a patch to force s-values?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and imho preferrable for that reason.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that'd be closest to the original code
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: what's the rationale behind including the commented out printfs?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gah this return value shit is hilarious
(trilema) ben_vulpes: appears to be a wrapper around do_sign to some extent or another
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which is not the blessed openssl, but...
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