asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: peh was specifically designed to work cleanly with ~this~ variant also. (hence 'cutout' mechanism)
asciilifeform: i did expect that folx would ask for this. there aint afaik a portable way of doing it, however, will require ugly c imports.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it is entirely possible to build-in. this doesn't really solve 'unix is leaky' tho.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925458 << afaik it is at least partially a 'winds blowing down towers' problem : in ukristan, isps owned by competing mobs routinely cut one another's wires
asciilifeform: sorta why gluing lang-incompatible orcistans generally requires an external conqueror (ru, austrians, turks, ..) who impose yet third lang
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925396 << by some accounts, this disease killed even crowned heads ( ceausescu ) , and saharov, and buncha other 'names' , large an' small , ( an' many yrs ago almost killed asciilifeform , who did not come from factory with mp's complete immunity ) and fuck knows whom else
asciilifeform: per mp_en_viaje's 'plox filter the noobs' dictum
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: per vendor's manual ( and interestingly HAD TO DUST IT OFF, there are ~0 useful sources on net, errybody wants to talk about intel's c++ 'intrinsics' lib re sse) they're supposed to operate in parallel.
asciilifeform: ended up that yes needs, simply to match the performance of ~orig~ genesis ver.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: see piece. (it's short.)
asciilifeform: ( by breaking binary compat. e.g. current microshit won't even boot w/out sse3 , iirc )
asciilifeform: there was defo thread in the logs, where mp_en_viaje elaborated on subj. but for some reason cannot find in o(1)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc this was the 'cancerous fags' piece
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: how didja dig this up ?
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in rare finds : useful www-operated compiler/disasmer w/ selectable gcc
asciilifeform: dorion: it's not there against mp_en_viaje & co., either, folx with serious money have ~0 problem moving it. it's there against 'engineer saves 100k and escapes from gulag to live rest of his days without working for reich' etc.
asciilifeform: dorion: bush-II amended. exact magic # was made seekrit, and changes periodically, and to attempt to determine it is itself considered criminal
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'd expect. but process for baking these in usa is ~same as to get benjies
asciilifeform: diana_coman: reportedly, if you do it in mp_en_viaje-grade qtys , will find that acct locked. but i have not personally stepped, of yet, on this mine
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc there is to this day an interesting diff : in nato jets, the 'you will soon [fly into ground/eat rocket/flame out engine] !' taped voice in cockpit, is of whiny chix; but in ru jets, man's voice
asciilifeform: well yea mp_en_viaje already went errywhere short of antarctica
asciilifeform: o hey mp_en_viaje in ukristan
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: year.
asciilifeform: i'd even say that mp_en_viaje has ~optimistic~ 'upbeat' pov re ameri-korp 'culture'. reality even darker hole.
asciilifeform: moar idiotic than mp_en_viaje could picture in bad dream.
asciilifeform: mips, for all its schoolbook popularity, has whole buncha non-orthogonal instrs (e.g. movz/movn, beq/bne, etc. pairs, where only diff is negation; all the signed/unsigned pairs, wtf, if you want signed arithm, let compiler do the fucking sign extension ; and all the unaligned byte-addressing ops, fuck'em, let'em address on whole words like bolix, and suck it up, and bonus , lose 'endianism')
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje et al : thinking re 'bigpicture' -- i suspect that my approach was ill-conceived from beginning. instead of a mips-iii, if doing such thing -- oughta have implemented a radically simplified item with dozen or so instructions; for which could then bake 'fittable in head' bellardistic dynamic emu. and then retarget gcc to it.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje et al : lulzily, if there existed a cycle-accurate emulator of ~pc~ , accurate profiling would be trivial -- simply allocate a word for each instr., and increment that word when the instr executes
asciilifeform: holyfuq, ~6~ mp_en_viaje pieces in absence of deedbot..
asciilifeform: lol i thought it was all same b&w on mp_en_viaje's 'lynx'
asciilifeform: half the pt of the 'm' thing was to be to sew together a comp where can-sure
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i did it earlier, lol, pasted ('callgrind'). but needs some knob-turnin' so as to focus on just the main thrd
asciilifeform: for thread-completeness : callgrind output. not 100% useless
asciilifeform: contemptible garbage.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'm almost surprised it wasn't microshit
asciilifeform: happy travels, mp_en_viaje
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: rk is imho a proper box. 128GB storage, GB/s nic
asciilifeform: lol seems like they came up with buggy reimplementation of catholic church's tithe, rather than tmsr
asciilifeform: ( whether imaginary; or his handlers pay him this way; or actual chumpers from the wild, pay -- i have nfi )
asciilifeform: iirc mp_en_viaje actually wrote about this
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: possibly surprisingly, there ~were~ braille displays which worked via heated pins
asciilifeform: ( was mega-fad in msdos days -- proggy that prompts 'which dope', you select one, and then listen to 'hypnotic' squeals from headphone )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: how about old man de sade ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: x86 is a mountain of sad of which most folx (even such as write proggies) see only the very tip. but goes all the way down into magma.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it aint as if there were no support for mips in the classic kernel tho. ( i only had to add 100ln or so specifically to bring up the simplified sim-devices )
asciilifeform: aka 'can haz sane bootstrapping / dethompsonization' .
asciilifeform: thing's 50-60% comment by weight, imho amply documented.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: thinking about it moar, i suspect that it is possible to bake a less screamingly retarded version of bellardism , where, e.g., the 'cache' is prefilled with unconditional jumps to the sim-instructions, eliminating the decode hit
asciilifeform: they used 'dynamic recompile' method, where the sim simulates a kind of cache. when sim-instruction fetched, it looks whether found in this cache, and if not, emits a chunk of x86olade into said segment of cache, which corresponds to 'compiled' ver. of that instr.
asciilifeform: for thread-completeness, i'ma summarize how bellard et al did it
asciilifeform: in the beginning, thought i could at least implement the mips instruction operand decode using xmm. but ha! not that either.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: well, on my opteron, they're 128bit regs (on moar recent -- 256 and even 512!) but only the lower 64 is directly addressable. and gives buncha 'simd' ops, e.g. 'shuffles' where 'take erry 7th bit and add'em' etc. but looked and looked an' found nothing that'd correspond to table lookup
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-24#1924495 << for comparison, btw, 2m 23.2s for same 1000000000 runs on host box.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-24#1924463 << on the actual iron, it happens in 1 clock cycle, cuz entirely parallel. in 'm', ends up iterating through all 16 tlb entries. i looked into using 'simd' instructions to do it, but they are ~artfully~ useless , ended up using the xmm regs strictly as fast temp storage;
asciilifeform: the way i was gonna implement the nic, is to pipe packets via linux's 'tap/tun' into a slot in the 'm' mmio space (see bus.asm) and generate slave irq (see irq.asm) . if these arrive faster than the irq can be eaten, they simply get dropped.
asciilifeform: ( for that matter -- if e.g. mp_en_viaje one day bakes actual silicon cpu , would run on par with pc, with unchanged soft. )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje, i predict, will cackle, say, 'toldja, dummkopf'
asciilifeform: afaik this is the 1st attempt to measure it, too ( i.e. with max sweat over cycles, 0 c in proggy, 0 libs, etc sim. )
asciilifeform: i'ma let BingoBoingo think re whether it makes sense to offer shared hosting on a thing like that. (or whether folx will simply die of laughter)
asciilifeform: can prolly be improved somewhat, via cycle-shaving, but not by order of magnitude.
asciilifeform: very cautious an' pessimistic indian fella. used to design hydraulic pumps etc. 'Must look into asciilifeform‘s implementation of v.py (V versioning system) and formulate a plan of action. At first look, I have absolutely not an inkling of what is going on, and I am worried it will take a lifetime to do this'
asciilifeform: sorta like ye old 'pravda', they gotta give Official Party Line, can't simply shuddup
asciilifeform: seems not-impossible
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: the sidebar on your www seems to have run away to footer
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: mangled link ?
asciilifeform: iirc mp's wp can be sat on postgres
asciilifeform suspects that mp_en_viaje is right, and a logtron frontend could be sewn outta mp's wp with minimal # of stitches.
asciilifeform not eaten mp-wp, does not know whether it includes enableable public search function somewhere, and if so whether can be easily repurposed for by-line srch
asciilifeform: iirc mp_en_viaje once said 'aint worth the cpu cost'
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: what's the gain from feeding it into wp ?
asciilifeform: ( didn't mp_en_viaje have tea with phf not long ago ? did he say anyffin re subj ? )
asciilifeform: why phf never genesised his, wish i knew, imho it is the most feature-complete one
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: afaik the closest thing to a publication is ben_vulpes + trinque's item, where the irc and db backend was genesised , for some reason w/out the wwwistic frontend.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-22#1924180 << this is correct summary, in that no one has -- to date -- published a complete 'press and run' log sys.
asciilifeform: nao asciilifeform can burn in the higher temperature circle of hell, where ken thompson is!1
asciilifeform: well iirc he was headed to visit mp_en_viaje other day
asciilifeform: ty mp_en_viaje
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: is your new-type link engine switched off just nao ?
asciilifeform: trinque: to expand -- currently gnat srcball aint a complete description of gnat. i.e. it demands existing gnat. iirc was described pedantically in old thrd.
asciilifeform: iirc at one time mp suggested this, 'there oughta be ONE genesis'
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: what if sel operands were to go on ~left~ side ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: why's that ? name is what's b/w the 1st 2 / , neh ?
asciilifeform has nfi whether this is trivial to implement , or headache
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re select, potentially you can get away with storing only left side + character count
asciilifeform loox in his notebook and finds also 'hm why not let mp-wp highlight selects on server-end, so machines w/out js display highlights' but also never attempted this, notenuff phpfu
asciilifeform: simple run-length encode worx as well
asciilifeform: could possibly compress for link shortening, but yes
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: correct
asciilifeform: possibly someone handy with jsism could attempt ( lobbes ? )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: since '17
asciilifeform: ( it was only then that even devised the algo, during thread w/ mp_en_viaje re 'trbi' )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: frustratingly, i have the 'trbfs'. but grrrr gnat bugola
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 'heavy' was pretty much all '15 aha
asciilifeform: ( complete with 'danish butt', laugh if you will. i no longer eat'em, but gotta keep the screws, 74xxx, rejected FG components, ..., ..., somewhere! )
asciilifeform: there's a scene in 1 of mp_en_viaje's fictions where almost literally depicts asciilifeform's torture room
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i recall finding that comba died right when was writing comba's algo.
asciilifeform: at one pt i thought same re asciilifeform vs. trb . ( then mp_en_viaje unwedged me , he had bdb notes , '14 )
asciilifeform sees trinque's pov, many times was wedged on a problem where 'i have 95% of solution but for the remaining 5 -- ugliest turd ever seen' . but must agree with mp_en_viaje -- you can't get orig text from a hash, and can't vpatch if you aint got orig
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-19#1923538 << trinque if you have an alternative algo that avoids giga-genesis, i'd really like to hear about it asap, before we start genesising 100MB of kernelade complete with autoconfisms etc
asciilifeform: e.g alternative of asciilifeform's 'here is my hash of mp's gpg-1.4.10' thing is fundamentally sinful , cuz not in fact vtronically contiguous w/ original
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje evidently also had nfi how, and so prescribed 'genesis the GB of shite'
asciilifeform: if mp_en_viaje or other serious brain tells me why it's a stupid idea, i'ma listen. but atm i suspect it is necessary and inescapable.
asciilifeform: would like to offer heathens a) fully isolated linuxen b) at competitive cost. so far erryone in meat wot to whom showed piz rate sheet, replied something in vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-16#1922858 .
asciilifeform: trinque: the idea is, i want to emplace turnkey 'tx clears and you have root' 'virtual' service at piz. with cuntoo.
asciilifeform reluctant to move www to piz, it's a fairly high traffic item, possibly adds up to half a trilema's (complete with regular ddosism)
asciilifeform: ( in some industrial applications -- actually do not know in advance. in usa there is a 'national library of compounds' , coupla million synthetic rubbishes that literally no one had even fed to amoeba, much less to man. at one time asciilifeform's work consisted of uncrating $compound-of-the-day and brute force testing in vitro. but afaik dope people do not work from 'library', but from old 'mature tech' . )
asciilifeform: ( supposing 50% padding to payload -- this'd be 1024 bytes/sec of payload, i.e. quite enuff for a (compressed) voice conversation in realtime, say. )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: imho the hammer analogy is poor, tho -- i've 'optimized cpu' with... grinder (polish heat sink), other folx -- with liquid n2, etc. 'barbaric' manipulation can in some cases optimize fine mechanism . for some value of optimize.
asciilifeform: 'An anonymous complaint was submitted to the MIT Bitcoin Expo in March for allowing Todd to speak' << 'по просьбе трудящихся'(tm)(r) !
asciilifeform gotta go and do chore; girlattorney : mp_en_viaje can answer most of these q's much better than i, supposing he has time atm .
asciilifeform: (it can be improved, potentially, but is very difficult to do without compromising integrity under concerted attack. and 'concerted attack' has been going 24/7 since late '14... )
asciilifeform: girlattorney: my current personal node was synced from-empty in '17, and running 24/7 since. (prior -- dead ssd. prior -- another 2y of continuous operation.)
asciilifeform: the 'reject peers sending garbage' mechanism is also mine. trb did not always have it. i submitted it for inclusion to mod6's flagship after determining that it results in substantially improved performance across the board (i.e. peers sending bloomism are, statistically, an unlikely source of the-next-block)
asciilifeform: the obvious cost is somewhat slower from-empty-disk sync. cuz, naturally, nao you can only process block in strict order.
asciilifeform: prb had 'orphanage' mechanism where it accepted antecedent-less inputs 'on faith'. this opens node both to memory exhaustion and algorithmic complexity attack (i.e. crafted input can prompt machine into wasting arbitrary amt of memory, + arbitrary amt of cpu cycle walking it)
asciilifeform: answr to given puzzle is very simple -- most of the supposed btc net, consists not of nodes, but of equivalent to sand in engine's crankcase.
asciilifeform: girlattorney: simple logical inference (there's a number of publicly advertised trb nodes; most of'em agree with heathendom re the height) points to : no, not 'only with themselves' dunnit.
asciilifeform: girlattorney: see mp_en_viaje's http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/ .
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: lemme know if you want this thread moved to #a
asciilifeform: or what even means to audit a binturd in arch where jumping into middle of instruction is permitted.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-18#1923194 << if mp_en_viaje or anyone else can think of less ugly pill for described problem, i'm all ears, cuz indeed this one's barbaric
asciilifeform: oh and lol , apparently not butane, but a flammable fluorocarbon (!), decomposes into hf when burn
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in envirowhinerism noose : asciilifeform uncrated a 'window' type air conditioner to help in torture room; and found 1) cost ~2x than last time bought one 2) plastered with 'explosion hazard' warnings. apparently europistan banned ~all~ freons, new-type, old type, and as result EVERYONE gets cooling compressors fulla... butane. 3) internal insulation is... styrofoam. the white,
asciilifeform: bvt: found it earlier, comment is currently in mp_en_viaje's modqueue
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: paris. and sevastopol. an' possibly elsewhere
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-17#1923088 << the circular situation of gnat , where 'need gnat to build gnat', is the third reason for the mips approach -- arch with 100 fixed-length instructions, simplify the eventual rewriting of backend so can ditch gcc dep.
asciilifeform: in principle 'anything possible' ; recall german gun 'bertha', 'dora', etc. series. 3000 men, 400 camp whores, however many technicians, 4 railroad tracks, battalion of railroad engineers to lay track in front of it so can move... but in what sense is 'field' artillery.
asciilifeform: the other variant is to do a la trb, genesis e.g. 3.70.16 (arbitrary, happens to be what i had around during 1st test) and ~then~ cut, a la trb. but it is gargantuan , would make trb genesis look microscopic in comparison, viewing the genesis patch in e.g. phf's viewer will prolly crash most www browser..
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: currently thinking, oughta genesis'em together. ( and at same time snip out errything from kernel that aint relevant to the sim-arch. ) and ~then~ if someone thinks he absolutely must sit down said kernel on some other irons , ~he~ can then put back the necessary routines.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: had same thought re that kernel patch -- wtf to do with it, it aint a vpatch, nao need genesis of kernel, so then which, etc
asciilifeform: still not eaten all of mp_en_viaje's tho, i'm slow in ro. maybe will live long enuff, eat.
asciilifeform raged, frothed, when 1st read naggum. sorta like when later 1st read mp_en_viaje , and so on
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i suspect this hypothesis extends just the same to iron.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: imho after working mipstron, whoever actually needs heathenware for whatever experiment, can house it in a mipsjail and be done with it.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: doesn't require hand-hexing, since trb actually stores all blox, simply needs re-walk trigger
asciilifeform: esp. for safety-critical component that is wallet.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: unrelated, i found 1 of your belarus tomb folx, comment in mod queue.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: rk and dulap 4.x , but heavily hand-cut. ( and i suspect can be cut further still . ) i dun operate kernels other than hand-cut.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i expect it'll be somewhat easier than the piece already done.
asciilifeform: btw for thread-completeness -- the 'weird-endian' puzzle had simple answer : turns out the mips arch uses 'little' representation for the instructions per se, even on 'big' machine. the rationale for this, was that the instr. length is fixed, and jumps into unaligned addresses are forbidden (i.e. iron will not load an instruction from an addr that doesn't end with 2 (on 64bit -- 3) zero bi
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-17#1922941 << afaik all the airlines still are using the ~physically same~ ibm mainframes as in 1990. ( simply, in 'civilized' world, the agents run 'terminal' proggy under microshit. whereas in orclands, ye olde ibm glass terminals. i saw one in e.g. argentina, in coupla places )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-17#1922928 << ftr i had to disasm his demo kernel to find how the fuck he made it go with the simplistic mips timer. (why ? cuz linux porting docs -- lie !)
asciilifeform: problem comes if you want to run non-contemporary proggies on it ( musl, gnat 4.9.x, etc . ) linus permitted abi to change.
asciilifeform: it was ~2.4~ that some folx are keeping alive, cuz it would fit, with trimming, into <1M. but if yer using 2.4.x you will need a contemporary userland.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i don't have anything running a 2.x, and haven't for some years ( ye olde 'wrt54g' was i think the last piece of iron i had which ran one )
asciilifeform: mod6: re backups -- if one absolutely must make a hand-cranked copy of a node, the correct method is 'dumpblock' (on donor end) and 'eatblock' (on recipient) , dun require taking down either.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-16#1922900 << imho it is foolish to take down a trb noad (i.e. allow it to fall behind) simply to copy the db. the best backup for a trb noad is a 2nd, 3rd,... node.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-16#1922895 << recall that mp_en_viaje prescribed that the wallet oughta be sawed off into own proggy. imho this is entirely Right Thing. but no one has yet found the free hands with which to do, afaik
asciilifeform: the arch illustrated by the sim is simple enuff that one could fit it in, e.g., even very modest fpga. which means that nao we have reproducible kernel, gcc, toolchain, etc. for machine that can be baked , if needed, on demand, in whatever qty.
asciilifeform recall mp_en_viaje's 'glass kindergartener sculpture' piece
asciilifeform: speaking of which, from old compendium of 'militarisms' : new division commander shows up, and , to the troops lined up on platz, utters : 'i will discipline just like you know from kindergarten : some to tribunal, some will be shot in front of the regiment... '
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: navrozov
asciilifeform: asciilifeform, for example, in usa. where for 5k you can not even usually have the water pipe to your house fixed.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: if you can recall coupla details re thread, i can prolly remember it
asciilifeform: tunnel method worx, but imposes considerably overhead, girlattorney , you will want to get a serious pipe. i don't imagine it is a painful expense for attourney
asciilifeform was about to ask 'so what kinda attourney...' but noticed that mp_en_viaje already ask
asciilifeform: no need to cross compile unless you're building for something too small to run gcc itself ( and chances are it won't run trb , if so small , as with 'pogo' )
asciilifeform: even if mp_en_viaje hadn't said, illiterate folx still 'cannot be part', they will kill selves with elementary coarse error of pilotage
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: this is easy to do, only rub is that there are already 3 ( 4? ) trb nodes at piz, all on 1 ip block, and sharing a quite modest pipe.
asciilifeform: girlattorney, mp_en_viaje : the fundamental problem is that bitcoin per se is, arguably, an exercise in 'can avoid getting all blocks from 1 trusted peer ?'
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: defo, all of the moving parts already in place for it. ( and apparently nao there is a $49 pogo-cum-2GB ? )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i actually suggested this, in '17
asciilifeform: but 'cold start' is important test of 'network health'
asciilifeform: recall also that even during 'cold start sync', node is still attempting to operate as a node. it will be bombarded with tx from the peers, and (unsurprisingly) will walk the db and typically not find the referenced block , at given time (cuz it doesn't have it yet)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: slow pipe will do it, and likewise slow disk
asciilifeform: iirc mp_en_viaje actually has a circa-2014 snapshot hosted somewhere
asciilifeform: girlattorney: i attempted to bake exactly such in '14 , but the iron wasn't there yet ( we got a large supply of certain arm box, but only 256MB of physical mem, and only ~then~ found that without a total rewrite, trb cannot be sat down in 256M or even 1G )
asciilifeform: as you can tell, however, bitcoin still functions; simply it requires genuine node operators to do a little bit of hand curation of peer selection
asciilifeform: hey look at that, mp_en_viaje , finally 'pogo' with 2GB
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i also expect. and this is 'teachable moment' :
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: apol. for the comment spam, i misplaced a decimal point.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: for folx innocent of microshit 'ecosystem', there are 9000 such 'surprises', no barf bucket, no matter how deep, will ever suffice
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re rdp -- this is not only troo but is how microshit sells their winblowz 'server', 'have >2 !'
asciilifeform: i dun recall in what specific piece mp_en_viaje made this argument, but i buy it -- 'high quality www search was always illusion'. i.e. even if google et al did not actively fuck the outputs, even so 'pray tell mr babbage, if i feed into the machine a net fulla shit, will quality sites emerge from the search engine'
asciilifeform: ( interestingly -- there is no Official fatwa against benjies in mail, afaik . simply not +ev, as it is )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i actually considered good old cash-in-mail. sticking point is that u.s. mail has become stupidly expensive -- sending even small flatpack (i.e. big enuff for newspaper+benjie) costs nao approx what wu costs
asciilifeform does not object, mp_en_viaje has solid point
asciilifeform: jurov iirc already was making bank, with this, nao needs some competition..
asciilifeform: it's a potentially large, if temporary, buried treasure, for anyone outside reich to collect
asciilifeform: 'bogomips' figure will be same errywhere, as there is no iron timer simulated yet, the faux timer is simply 'erry N instr. ticks'
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: if you have 5min, go ahead an' boot it up, it boots...
asciilifeform: ( for thread-completeness, the missing pieces afaik are : 1) handle speshulcases of 'div' and arithm. overflow trapping -- neither apparently used in linux, but presumably used ~somewhere~ 2) iron timer slave thread 3) nic 4) disk i/o 5) cuntoo port ! )
asciilifeform: includes ~complete instruction set guide (in comments.)
asciilifeform: iirc mp_en_viaje saw the nyc sub with own eyes
asciilifeform: complete with semaphore (when used ? nfi, since time immemorial was automatic)
asciilifeform: hmm, dun display, trips the mpwp spamload killer
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: copy of moscow
asciilifeform: re 'bottom inflection points' -- iirc mp_en_viaje also described existence of whores in south amer who 'make house call' but haven't own transport
asciilifeform: iirc mp_en_viaje did one time write a portrait of a sad bordello he went into, (in cr?), where chix on flea mattresses behind curtains. but presumably this -- was for sport
asciilifeform: only mp_en_viaje can say why did not go in. i cannot.
asciilifeform: i admittedly have possibly simplistic picture, where it's quite same as miller
asciilifeform: hm. but presumably mp_en_viaje left not 'because garage' but because was empty or fulla sad people ?
asciilifeform: why invest in 40 metre neons and megalith if mp_en_viaje will just as happily come to properly equipped garage, maybe is the logic
asciilifeform nearly forgot, lol, it's, what, 0300 hrs in mp_en_viaje's porta-castle
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: imho a++ theory. and ties in with the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-08#1667175 item also.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: found, by way of the misfortunate outing , that oddball chinese 'falung gong' cult in washingtonistan has ~300 people ~in orchestra~ alone. holyfuq.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: lol 'off' circa 1995 or so
asciilifeform: simply had the misfortune to be out of the shade, in godforsaken swampistan
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: for all i know, this kinda thing has been 'normal' here for yrs. asciilifeform simply stays out, usually, from mass panem et circenses scenes, simply not seen
asciilifeform: i can only guess that nowadays if, in this here colony, you can 'do floating point' you will work somewhere other than the scorching swamp heat selling bottles..
asciilifeform saw an almost 'argentine'-grade scene at trump fest. wanted to buy bottle of ice water. went into queue, of six people or so. then noticed that queue dun move ~at all. assumed, like idiot, 'hm must be out of water? waiting for truck with moar?' -- then got to end of queue, and jaw dropped. vendor chix was counting change ~on calculator~. bbut! calculator ~on ipnoje~, so therefore also attending, must have, to arsebook etc. ping
asciilifeform: i recall a mp_en_viaje article where there was detailed portrait of argentine 'academic', with bow tie etc, demanding shop credit line to buy a pair of boots or what was it
asciilifeform: bbut somehow still 'empanada on layaway' ?
asciilifeform: there's also moving parts , orcologically speaking, that asciilifeform doesn't at all understand. e.g. how , in fucktarded argentinistan, typical orc 'can't buy empanada except on layaway' but somehow flat still costs 300k(us)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i picture food situation much like in ro, aha. minus the rubbish trucked in from germany.
asciilifeform: as mp_en_viaje prolly already knew decades ago, 'vhs amer' is ~religion for sovok orcs.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: will. and BingoBoingo as i understand piz is paying for transport ? ( rather , asciilifeform pays, asciilifeform owes piz, plox to credit it , when billed , against his tab )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: speaking of the (entirely fair) 'customers, motherfuckers' prod from mp_en_viaje : i'ma take the smg broadcast as official marching order re the machine delivery, and make the purchases, so we've what to sell . ( and on that front, the mips item is ready for war. i'ma also need to cuntoo . )
asciilifeform: and i'm speaking of generic people, even; i imagine mp_en_viaje had to beat'em away with sticks.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: in sovok sphere, they in fact ~will~ talk to you. (even when abroad, in deepest swamp of washingtonistan, ru chix in crowd watching some 'occupy!11' nonsense, found somehow asciilifeform in the crowd and spoke !) they do this, the generally accepted theory is, on acct of plain demographic catastrophe .
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i did not follow him to naggumistan, never found out what he meant. ( and fella wasn't ever heard from since. )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc sex per se is moar or less illegal in stockholm.
asciilifeform: not even speaking of wandering mp filing lawsuit, how the fuk does something like this stay in biz for yrs
asciilifeform: and lol! they rented mp_en_viaje a janitor closet, for cost of whole flat?!!
asciilifeform: 1st time i see this on mp_en_viaje's www. (maybe elbowed wrong button?)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2018/the-principal-agent-problem-or-how-america-went-away/#selection-251.0-261.55 i think is it
asciilifeform: trump was to speak at 1800 hrs, blinked in and out for ~45min, the sound system must've ran on winblows xp, which crashed
asciilifeform: speaking of which, trump promised a -- first ever in washingtonistan -- tank an' plane parade tomorrow
asciilifeform: ( as amply documented by mp_en_viaje ) being 'in better position to evaluate $risk' is often ~bad thing~
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: aha, but apparently thought asciilifeform had one hidden in back pocket somewhere ??
asciilifeform: there are various known solutions to this, but none (unsurprisingly) 'official'. mp_en_viaje discussed variously in the logs, how it is done.
asciilifeform: billymg: re heavy industrial amts of coin -- the only afaik fella here who could even theoretically help, is mp_en_viaje , ask him when he wakes up, it is possible that this is the year he's buying a soviet sub or sumsuch
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: europistan's deepest nature preserve, neh. 1000 y.o. trees, bison who died errywhere else 400y ago; why not also komsomol then ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: haven't been , but it's on the short list of where to move if/when jailbroken
asciilifeform pictures mp_en_viaje lodged in that 1 house in viskuli, 1000km of forest around, where they signed the sovok surrender
asciilifeform: 3y tour of duty an' counting. improvement over the prev, in that no commute and actually leaves some energy for actual work. but evidently not enuff.
asciilifeform: looking improbable that will put out ch20 today as proclaimed (charlatan!!11) but still not impossible.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-30#1921075 << we have slim but realistic shot of emplacing 32 heathens and reaching breakeven (counting BingoBoingo's food & pad) , per the outlined mips + irons plan. if mp goes home, however, and cancels his irons, even slimmer.
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu also does not like empty report.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun have any complaint to mircea_popescu re bent nickels.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re piz -- the mips item , i think i described, is so that ea. of the 32core boxen can be cut into 32 'you have root' properly isolated virtuals, which then can be leased to heathens w/out particular selectivity. but this requires not only for it to be finished properly ( it is on conveyor behind peh, which i explicitly promised to mp et al ) but for machine delivery to proceed.
asciilifeform: mp, for instance, does not enjoy reading such broadcasts and i dun think anyone else does either
asciilifeform: the mg promptly resumed chattering.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun have with what to disagree with mp. he wants professional, well-scheduled performance, like e.g. asciilifeform's day job. and he gets it, from diana_coman , whom he employs fulltime. as for asciilifeform & the other 'hangers on', all they've to bring to the table is, i guess, worm shit ?
asciilifeform: then -- worm ? ( what does mp_en_viaje gain from working with worm ? )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: for my part 'would much rather people ask why there aint a statue to him, than why there is'
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: yer terminal is firing double shots
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: he did ?! cuz actually mod6 is atm the majority holder, asciilifeform owes a coin ( to piz, and another 1/3 of coin to mp_en_viaje , will prolly end up having to break open cold store for it )
asciilifeform: working from the literal text. where board, consisting of mod6 & asciilifeform , hired BingoBoingo as chairman, with mutual agreement of all parties ( and iirc encouragement of mp_en_viaje & co )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: then what was topic ? the lack of a per-ch release calendar ? attempted already, all it did is to add to asciilifeform's reputation as charlatan. and for that matter i dun recall any successes among the other folx with day jobs re multiweek calendars for pro-bono worx.
asciilifeform: entirely willing to work with people, review plans, etc. but if mp_en_viaje declares ' i have snails here in terrarium faster than asciilifeform ' then i have no counter-argument, what sorta counter could there be.