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(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: note also that the point is not really "expressing yourself" - the point is improving yourself; writing IS thinking
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but that's one of the big advantages of working among people here: they are already filtered by being here (and that's quite a filter) so you'll get actual conversations not noise
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: quite; it might very well be that you had more experience of "unfiltered commenters aka mostly spam" so yes, it's hard to see it otherwise
(trilema) diana_coman: fwiw, taking the above view, I can fully see his despair at "but why don't you have the sources in there?" ; the only puzzler is how exactly does he see the above as more practical and pragmatic than the plain "this wad of shit is what cuntoo is atm, worms and mud and all"
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: as far as I understand it, trinque's algo is http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-19#1923467 aka in a way the precise opposite: we don't actually have cuntoo at all; we have (genesised) just a map and the rest is a sort of "for illustration purpose only"
(trilema) diana_coman: trinque: ftr there is no talk whatsoever of trashing the item you made, no idea where that came from
(trilema) diana_coman: as I get it, you want genesis to be only something-perfectly-understood; that is the perfection that is not possible and that nobody is asking for
(trilema) diana_coman: and precisely what you are throwing back that "oh, but you want the shit in the genesis,no!"
(trilema) diana_coman: the "perfectly" is your addition
(trilema) diana_coman: but enumeration is not "know what wads goes" , how does this work? how is "a wad called soandso" enough?
(trilema) diana_coman: or is your objection to using V for verifiable-incrementalism or what
(trilema) diana_coman: trinque: I suppose I don't *understand* the incrementalism you see there; because there isn't something I can follow "from this genesis he did this vpatch cutting that out etc"
(trilema) diana_coman: you know, I went into this+curl because you said oh noez, nobody is doing ebuilds etc
(trilema) diana_coman: I want however A genesis from where to be able to start
(trilema) diana_coman: I don't want curl in the genesis, lolz
(trilema) diana_coman: trinque: not cleaned no, not swearing either; hence mp_en_viaje 's earlier observation that I'm not vpatching but genesising and those are different precisely because genesis is a place to start (be it a wad of shit) not "this thing I can swear to "
(trilema) diana_coman: trinque: my experience is that portage will happily build sources that are locally in /cuntoo/distribution (iirc.); so I don't understand re "won't build"
(trilema) diana_coman: so how do you suggest to start? because even if I have this ebuild, I can't patch it because effectively, no sources so what am I patching exactly, just the ebuild script? how does that help?
(trilema) diana_coman: trinque: the trouble is that you need to start from somewhere and that somewhere is "this wad of shit"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the earlier you avoid it, the better for you
(ossasepia) diana_coman: re stuff to share - explorations and personal notes are fine to share too; I know this trap of "this is not meaningful/ready/good enough to share" but it's exactly that - a trap, nothing more
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: you can always query deedbot with !!key nickname it knows you as http://wot.deedbot.org/211A199BC99152DEFA326D792E4554DE8D51E8D9.asc so that seems ok, well done.
(ossasepia) diana_coman will be back later
(trilema) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: in case you need it: the domain name for it is younghands.club
(ossasepia) diana_coman: you can simply go /msg deedbot !!register yoururlatpbvulpes.com
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: http://deedbot.org/help.html -> go through that to register your key with deedbot
(ossasepia) diana_coman: being able to link specifically the precise bit you mean is quite powerful
(trilema) diana_coman: I mean ofc mp-wp there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: btw re blogs and actually useful stuff, did you notice the selection thing? e.g. http://ossasepia.com/2019/07/14/a-working-cuntoo-install-on-amd-fx-8350-with-script/#selection-63.0-69.43 ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: nobody can help you if they can't see what you're doing, can they?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: very good but..why under the blanket as it were? put it out there, what
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: otherwise I can't send *you* anything since there is no you around here
(ossasepia) diana_coman: first things first though: you *need* a rsa key !
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: note that you'll *have to* write daily even if it's just a bullet-point list with "I did X; I did Y ; " or even "today I didn't do anything"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but anyway, as soon as that's ready, I'll ping you with something more specific to do too
(ossasepia) diana_coman: everything is doable; the trouble is whether the specific price required is really worth the result, that's all
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: let's make this the proper way - I'll get you an account on the learning blog anyway just so you have a point to start from without/before needing to already find and choose all sorts of things from provider to blog software
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ugh, wrong channel
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: make me a shared hosting account with wp installed please; bill it for one year and let me know if there's something else you need from me
(trilema) diana_coman: it turns out mulling will have to do its thing while action goes on.
(trilema) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: make me a shared hosting account with wp installed please; bill it for one year and let me know if there's something else you need from me
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (for that matter I dislike php anyway but that's for another day)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: don't go hunting for wild new things to capture and make yours - there's plenty already captured, just waiting for someone with a free hand and willing to give them better shape
(ossasepia) diana_coman: in case it's not clear: I'm not at all saying that wordpress is great or even highly desirable; I'd prefer it much smaller and trimmed and cleaned and all that - BUT atm, there IS one version of it that has been at least adjusted for all sorts of useful functionality AND used by people I *trust* and further available for enthusiastic trimming (in other words: it's captured already)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: not to mention sparking further discussion and clarification when/where needed
(ossasepia) diana_coman: perhaps think of it this way: they work waaay better than the "references list" or "bibliography" or "notes" combined in traditional books
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: yes they are; for one thing you *want* to know when someone else is talking about related stuff; and you *want* to be able to pat on the shoulder someone who is talking about related stuff; and you as reader *want* to know who and how interacted with this text enough to write about it, too
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: add to the list: running on python 2.7 or earlier
(ossasepia) diana_coman has to go now but will be back in a few hours
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and once/if you find such a thing, I'll come over to your website and poke it in the eye for free :))
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it may use local db
(ossasepia) diana_coman: docker IS a dependency though, you realise
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyway, and quite as always: pick the stuff you think best satisfies those main criteria: no external dependency, runs on a linux with gcc 4.9 (or earlier) and without systemd and other shit, does comments and pingbacks (those ARE important), and you can get to actually know its code in one month at most.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: is there any of those in the list that you can fully run locally AND without importing (as dependency and/or requirement) yet another ball of code of various sizes?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: oh boy, disqus, lol
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and more generally for direct interaction with your readers - this is meant to be a big part of being online in the first place (otherwise you know, get a notebook and jot down); (/me goes to look at your link)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: the trouble with static blog is that there is no good option for comments
(ossasepia) diana_coman: this being said, tools are quite a personal matter - so use whatever fits *your* hands best as it were
(ossasepia) diana_coman: re vi - it's more my dislike of "modes"; I can work with it (when on a machine with nothing else) but I'd much rather not.
(trilema) diana_coman: I knew I did it before but on standard wp and I hadn't looked at mp-wp
(trilema) diana_coman: cool, I'll mull it over a few more days and I'll get back to you
(trilema) diana_coman: basically if they aren't yet old enough to have their blog fine, they can share the classroom blog, what
(trilema) diana_coman: since otherwise they go on github "blog" or whatevers, what sense is there
(trilema) diana_coman: basically the non-discussion but reporting thing
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: no, not in preference; but so they write there their "I plan this; I did this; here's what is wrong and what is fine"
(trilema) diana_coman: cool stuff, thank you BingoBoingo ; I'll give this a bit more thought to figure out if blog is best or enough but in principle it seems I'll have to park young new hands somewhere public so they can do their homework and atm I'm considering a shared account on Pizarro - would this be ok with Pizarro or do you see some problem with it/would rather not?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: or I suppose if you really say that you are not there yet i.e. you are not yet sure enough to be independent, then fine, since you are effectively my apprentice around here, might as well set you up with an account on what will be apprentices' blog and that's that
(trilema) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: asciilifeform does the mp-wp install on a shared account with pizarro work with multiple authors?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: listen, what's the main thing holding you back re making your own blog on your own domain? having the keys to the thing and being able (for real) to destroy it IS "owning" by definition; no amount of hosting it on someone else's platform is going to do anything
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the point is: there is a LOT to take in; and I can help you so you don't get overwhelmed, but you need to make a plan, publish it, do, review; repeat
(ossasepia) diana_coman: re gpg (as re ~everything around here), there's again more to it than "just a key":
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I'd say my talk at Reading uni might be a good introduction for you too, did you find it already? and from there follow the links and read up on the WoT especially
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it's more common that you'd think and it's not a matter of "I'm brighter than that" - it's quite more often an affliction of the brightest not of the less bright
(ossasepia) diana_coman: just you know, be aware that your time (and anyone else's) is a *limited* resource and there is always the risk of the enthusiast - running around from one shiny thing to another and not getting anywhere (or getting burnt out before having anything to show for all the work)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so regarding the version control, there is V and if you want to build some specific tooling/infrastructure for it, sure, why not
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: V is the version control system around here and it's not "just another versioning system" - I'm calling it that because that's closest to some concept you have
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: make yourself a gpg key and register it with deedbot, for starters; you'll need it to get an eulora account anyway but more to the point: you need it so you can actually gain any reputation
(ossasepia) diana_coman: as basic and most-useful tool, I certainly use screen; and an editor tweaked to be aware of ada+c/cpp but that's nowadays more often than not plain nano
(ossasepia) diana_coman: for irc it's irssi
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (again, poked and tweaked some)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyway for starters, here's the republican main code repository http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=ffa&search= and an example of code view: http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch1_genesis.kv
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I suppose I'll end up writing a post on tools, huh
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: in what way do you think that sourcehut is an answer (and to what exactly)?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and possibly best set up znc or something and leave it on - nobody expects you to answer immediately, but at least you can see stuff later
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hey, glad to hear that shrysr !
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyways, I'll be back later.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: honestly, why give github all that content; what if tomorrow they go down (like sourceforge did, remember?)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: what's your website so far anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman likes the sound of shrysr's mum very much
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: so you have your work cut out for you there, by your very name :D
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, for all your web hosting needs, I warmly recommend Pizzaro: pizarroisp.net
(ossasepia) diana_coman: interesting; all Shreyas I knew so far are Lithuanians, ha; then again, Lithuanian has supposedly *something* in common with Sanscrit so...
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: Shreyas, eh? are you of Lithuanian descent by any chance?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (for that matter, same goes for dev.to , even in spades)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and yes, rather than run the risk of misleading youngsters to think it's fine and good to provide dev.to with their content, I'll refrain from it and I'll do the needed dig in their source rather
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and for the other thing, there's no reason to give your content to github; make yourself your own blog like a sane person and put it there; github is more than welcome to link to *you* if it wants to
(ossasepia) diana_coman: don't fall for that; for one thing the best way you can help is anyway first of all by helping yourself too
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hopefully you noticed also that github thrives precisely on fleecing the naive-but-well-intended who provide it with content for free and get pretty much jack-shit in return
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: re learning and if it's any consolation, I can add that in those past 3 years working on eulora I learnt way more (and deeper) than I did during my 3 years of PhD.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: sure, the legacy code is a swamp but the advantage you have is that the earlier you get in, the better off you are over everybody that comes even later;
(ossasepia) diana_coman: because yes, it's not a game for slaves on a galley but for thinking people
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyways, eulora specifically *encourages* players to make/change their clients precisely as they want it - make bots to your heart content or anything else really
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: that's the fear of any thinking man I'd say - that he'll never get to know what there is to know; on the bright side though, you have the advantage that there isn't all that much new elegant code written
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: re your consultant, no surprise really, think of it: he gets money out of you NOT knowing the stuff + him knowing just what he knows, not more; the "slaving on a galley" goes much deeper than a mere figure of speech
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and time is the only truly finite resource so don't waste it on reading shitty code unless you go in to burn it too at the very least
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: a bit like with any other written word (literature would be the cannonical example), NOT all that is written is worth reading, that's the thing
(ossasepia) diana_coman: eulora's client code is open source; and yes, pretty much was chosen precisely because "at least you can go in and do what you need"; it's been....a while, let's say and I'm still torching the swamp to then finally be able to do what I need
(trilema) diana_coman imagines asciilifeform-ghost coming back purely to read the adnotated loper-os.org
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: the trouble is that the moment you dig into it (and you'll get to that moment sooner rather than later, if you are doing anything serious as in actually useful there at all), you'll find that the code in question is such a collection of stacked chairs that developing what you need is not at all such a straightforward thing
(ossasepia) diana_coman: otherwise put you are slaving on a galley that is further enslaved by a bigger galley but the advantage of the whole thing is that ...it's open source!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: mainstream offerings are quite shitty; it quite comes with "mainstream"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: discuss it, you know? lolz
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but for my curiosity: how many lines of code does this erpnext have and in what language? would you say you actually know exactly what each bit does and how and within what constraints/limitations?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: if it comes to that (as so far it seems rather elusive :)) )
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: on one hand I'm sure it's not at all hard to trump "most mainstream offerings" on anything really
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I guess I'll even offer a bounty for working model
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so how about this: get yourself an account in eulora, have a look around and choose something you want to model - from prices to quality or even quantity of crafting outputs
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: eulora is from at least one perspective basically a laboratory for hands-on "data science" learning/perfecting/anything; and yes, you totally get to design and make your own tools to collect any data you think you need to figure out stuff (even *what* you should figure out is up to you!)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: what are you building it in/on top of?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: oh boy the ERPs
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: you got cut at "of this field - "
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and before shrysr thinks this was sometime in mesosoic, it wasn't.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ftr I suffered from the same fascination as shrysr , back when I was 18-22; the uni courses on "AI" were a lot of cold water (this?? is THIS what you call machine *learning*???)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: there is a lot of "not gory enough" around precisely because supported otherwise (usually on the strength of old stuff that still works basically)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: asciilifeform: neah, if they don't learn it's either because "not gory enough" or because "can't learn" (in which case fine, they are next to jump)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: what are you working on/doing otherwise atm?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: asciilifeform: how's a problem if they jump? good instruction for onlookers, I'd say, let them JUMP!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: that fascination is most likely to be linked to what you add on "learn" than to what the machine actually does
(ossasepia) diana_coman: asciilifeform: like all fashions, it has to be hyped, what, don't begrudge it, its false feathers and fancy garb
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, insights won't ever come "just from data" but anyway, have you seen then for instance http://trilema.com/2016/the-pop-of-the-day-and-other-items-of-virtual-economy/ ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: there's plenty more in fact - in this sense, a working Eulora is effectively the data scientist's wet dream
(ossasepia) diana_coman: oh, what would "data science" be exactly, you think?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: R is not bad to know, actually; still quite my go-to thing for messing about with data
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, vps is a sort of "too cheap to afford all the problems it brings" but anyway
(ossasepia) diana_coman: heh, hold onto that idea! what do you know how to do?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: oh hi, so you're alive after all, lol
(ossasepia) diana_coman: what brings you here?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: are you there?
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: quite.
(trilema) diana_coman: I'm waiting on trinque to find out really.
(trilema) diana_coman: but this reduces to "have republican repo2
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: his is just the ebuild aka no sources; the ebuild downloads the source from my site so in this sense yes, it'll always be there
(trilema) diana_coman: at any rate, the current discussion is re including the source in the vpatch and being done with it since otherwise the ebuild by itself is no guarantee that "it'll always be there"
(trilema) diana_coman: ah, yours is a proper ebuild mod6 but shouldn't it notify of dependency on gnat i.e. it should basically install that one too first?
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-17#1923053 - funnily enough not even *just* the playing; kid pleaded and asked so in the end got him through ~20 lines of Ada doing a little "guess the number" text-game and he's more hooked to mess around with it than with heroes because obv "can look inside"
(trilema) diana_coman: mod6: mine so far would be "curl" alone so perfectly fine alongside yours since you say you are doing much heavier lifting there
(ossasepia) diana_coman: oh well, apparently not that alive really
(trilema) diana_coman: !!seen trinque
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-15#1922470 - trinque, any chance of getting an answer on this?
(trilema) diana_coman: heh, at least there are pretty pictures!
(trilema) diana_coman: possibly records for longevity anything really
(ossasepia) diana_coman: shrysr: are you coming in or going out ? this join/part is only annoying
(trilema) diana_coman: myeah, if only I had a logger in there so I can point to logs...
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: there have been so far at least 2 coming over into #ossasepia and by the looks of it possibly alive
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: myeah re won't spend life supporting them for sure; re script tbh it's such a pile of "open source" that I'm not even sure I'll spend my life making a script for it.
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: ah, I'm not complaining really, it's ...another world, what can I say; just still puzzled as to how they reason there
(trilema) diana_coman: might be looking out for work as in to make sure it doesn't actually find them
(trilema) diana_coman: in my many wtf from the dev.to expedition: most (and by this I do mean 90%) of the profiles in there list "looking for work" but then not even one of those actually inquired there at "come work on what matters", not even a "where?" or anything (and they saw it, yes, the "heart" it but won't say a peep)
(trilema) diana_coman: better than coal modem, presumably
(ossasepia) diana_coman: what brings you here?
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: lolz; if I didn't get them out at 9, no chance now; neah, they are my sleep-deprivation indicator simply, lol
(ossasepia) diana_coman: moopet aka Ben Sinclair, it would seem
(ossasepia) diana_coman: np, see you later
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but feel free to come up for air and ask in here at any time
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hang around as you like
(ossasepia) diana_coman: moopet: what's "subgenious"?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: heh, take it easy, it's not a sprint; more of a very deep rabbit hole
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (and...which of the above links, lol)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: moopet: is that bad or good in your books?
(trilema) diana_coman: well, I'm "enjoying" tonsillitis, if that's any help
(ossasepia) diana_coman: moopet: re TMSR you can have a look on trilema.com as well e.g. http://trilema.com/2015/the-definitive-sovereign/
(trilema) diana_coman: it sucks; because I suspect the most common questions will be the same and I'd very much prefer to point them to the log
(ossasepia) diana_coman: TMSR is The Most Serene Republic; you can read the log of its public forum for instance at http://btcbase.org/log/
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-11#1922318 - this doesn't seem to work so I don't know who else - phf, trinque ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: at any rate, if you want to learn and practice, you can do way worse than implementing your own V
(trilema) diana_coman: so uhm, who do I need to ask to actually get #ossasepia logged?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: moopet: the link provided by asciilifeform is the canonical introduction to using V as it were
(ossasepia) diana_coman: thanks asciilifeform , I was digging for that!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the point is: anyone can add a vpatch to an existing v-tree
(ossasepia) diana_coman: however, just adding a vpatch won't do much for those who don't know you and therefore can't trust you/your code
(ossasepia) diana_coman: in this sense there is no need for "approval" from anybody else
(ossasepia) diana_coman: moopet: re approval I guess it hinges on your notion of "approval"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the less direct trust may come also from "X whom I know to be honest and capable has signed this patch "
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and the direct trust comes from "I read and understood it and I'm fine to use it"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: there is no "approval" - only responsibility
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the point is that code is valuable for you only to the extent that you trust it
(ossasepia) diana_coman: moopet: not "approved" heh; signers are people who are willing to stake their reputation on the contents of that code essentially
(ossasepia) diana_coman: heh, good call really
(ossasepia) diana_coman: V is a versioning system like hm, no other really ; you can see it in action here for instance :
(ossasepia) diana_coman: what brings you here?
(trilema) diana_coman: true; I'll wait for trinque to comment since it's his genesis
(trilema) diana_coman: come to think about it, there is some weirdness there: the source tarballs are relegated to this "distfiles" dir but at the same time, patches to apply to those are considered part of the ebuild; what's the logic there - patches are code-er than the rest or what
(trilema) diana_coman: that was my initial expectation really but I suppose it's sheer size or something - the genesis is 4.6M as it is (ebuilds only)
(trilema) diana_coman: see above my trouble with mysql - it's not as much the "ebuild" that is missing but rather the whole darned tarball from all the URIs that the ebuild knows about
(trilema) diana_coman: to me it seems that there should be a tmsr repo with the tarballs (aka contents of /cuntoo/distfiles) but then all the ebuilds in genesis need updated too
(trilema) diana_coman: trinque: from what I see though the genesis.vpatch is a snapshot of /cuntoo/portage dir *only* which means that the actual tarballs with the code are not included anyway - so basically it will still fail to find them as soon as whatever URI in the ebuild doesn't host them anymore, what am I missing?
(trilema) diana_coman: I don't know; the guys were also not keen on getting rid of garbage as maybe getting a bigger pile of garbage for themselves.
(trilema) diana_coman: sounds quite close to the "making my own outsourcing comp" type I knew in Bucharest too: not keen as much on getting rid of garbage, as maybe riding it to "money"
(trilema) diana_coman: the sort of "this is the frozen thing I'm using for lack of anything better" sig rather than "this thing I read and know inside out" sig
(trilema) diana_coman: well, I just checked and I still have that ebuild on smg test so I'll do the dance with that; I suppose I might just as well sign it afterwards and that's that
(trilema) diana_coman: so now I suppose I'll have to grab the ebuild from smg test and use that, wtf
(trilema) diana_coman: in other annoying stuff: apparently the mysql ebuild I forced into use on smg test server meanwhile vanished from gentoo repos to the extent that my shiny new cuntoo just can't find it??
(trilema) diana_coman: there is at least one from dev.to that made it to comment on my blog at least so possibly dipped his toe a bit further but at each step it's like "oh, this is interesting" "so come and talk" "..."
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: some guy joining the channel and leaving the same second
(trilema) diana_coman: well, just had the "millisecond-checkout" behaviour in #ossasepia too; what exactly are they afraid of anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lol, that was one QUICK look
(trilema) diana_coman: this dev.to expedition is best taken in small doses
(trilema) diana_coman: ah, the word-rot running out of words, myeah
(trilema) diana_coman: wtf is "transcendent food" ?
(trilema) diana_coman: logs, blogs and archive, sure;
(trilema) diana_coman: well, to what extent is there webcontent outside of logs really (which have search, no?)
(trilema) diana_coman: "You unpretentiously rumble to douse and purpose Tor." - this is close to that Lushdrizzle eulora came up with, lol.
(trilema) diana_coman: spyked: I pressed the logbot to logbot_command_router_python_genesis.vpatch - at a quick look it seems to me that it contains the core but not the web-publishing glue, am I missing something?
(trilema) diana_coman: ben_vulpes can I have #ossasepia logged too please?
(trilema) diana_coman: that'd be more eastern than european, lol; I took it to mean "fermented"
(trilema) diana_coman: as long as the smoked eel doesn't suffer...
(trilema) diana_coman: heh; the pickled mushrooms thing is one where I gave in and made my own after 6 years+ of trying every possible thing they have in the west by that name
(trilema) diana_coman: lolz; how's your strong mood today Sir?
(trilema) diana_coman: aha, something like that
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-10#1922268 -> ~everything is broken so possibly updating-into-conformity with this modern requirement
(trilema) diana_coman: not yet enough for more than 5 words per line? lol
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform: that's not what I said.
(trilema) diana_coman is catching up with the log
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-09#1922167 -> uhm, raking in dough at the expense of pizarro and its customers doesn't strike me as desirable and the alternative is essentially to do the financier part for pizarro which doesn't strike me as very healthy either.
(trilema) diana_coman: the one in Minsk (as in St Petersburg so I put it on -> Russian) was a. deeper (doubling as nuclear shelter?) b. accelerating for all it was worth (so more likely long-distance idea)
(trilema) diana_coman: the striking difference re bucharest esp was simply that tube in Bucharest is /was clearly made for medium-long distance, a "cross the gridlocked centre" sort of thing while the one in Paris was to a large extent for short distance (or at least most lines i.e. there are some, fewer "express" lines)
(trilema) diana_coman: I think it was one X with some concentric circles + north-south and east-west lines but I never really studies the map in a lot of detail
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-05#1921843 -> in my experience Paris was closest to this i.e. wherever one was, walking < 5 minutes gets one to a tube station
(trilema) diana_coman: well, it'll "work" up to local isp that serves the lolcats required and nobody will even notice
(trilema) diana_coman: billymg: perhaps worth asking jurov too re btc
(trilema) diana_coman: I have just finished my cuntoo-to-be box, ha.
(trilema) diana_coman: lol, probably accurate
(trilema) diana_coman: possibly since 2010 so much changed that they are ...still in the 80s.
(trilema) diana_coman: that's the thing, I went there in 2010 and I was like...whoa, here's 80s all over again, ugh
(trilema) diana_coman: then again, it *was* an agricultural area where I went, yes
(trilema) diana_coman: and it is rather flat overall, what mountains
(trilema) diana_coman: so yes "forest" but not mountain style
(trilema) diana_coman: at least where I went deeper it was the sort of forest along the water that you get e.g. along ialomita
(trilema) diana_coman: other than that, the countryside was precisely Baragan-style (including the locals-staring-at-this-weird-unknown-woman)
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