moopet: Aloha
diana_coman: hello moopet
diana_coman: what brings you here?
moopet read a comment on dev.to about TMSR and V and hasn't a clue what they are
moopet: and since I failed to find anything on the internets I thought I'd come straight to you
diana_coman: heh, good call really
diana_coman: V is a versioning system like hm, no other really ; you can see it in action here for instance :
diana_coman: e.g http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=eucrypt&search= is the V tree for my project EuCrypt
moopet: so are signers people who have approved a commit?
moopet: and what is TMSR?
diana_coman: moopet: not "approved" heh; signers are people who are willing to stake their reputation on the contents of that code essentially
diana_coman: there is no "approval" - only responsibility
diana_coman: the point is that code is valuable for you only to the extent that you trust it
diana_coman: and the direct trust comes from "I read and understood it and I'm fine to use it"
moopet: how is someone responsible for something if they haven't given their approval?
diana_coman: the less direct trust may come also from "X whom I know to be honest and capable has signed this patch "
moopet: I'm not sure I'd understand unless I actually gave it a go, I guess
diana_coman: moopet: re approval I guess it hinges on your notion of "approval"
diana_coman: the point is: anyone can add a vpatch to an existing v-tree
diana_coman: in this sense there is no need for "approval" from anybody else
diana_coman: however, just adding a vpatch won't do much for those who don't know you and therefore can't trust you/your code
asciilifeform: moopet, diana_coman : http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system is imho to this day the best guide to 'v'
diana_coman: thanks asciilifeform , I was digging for that!
asciilifeform: np
diana_coman: moopet: the link provided by asciilifeform is the canonical introduction to using V as it were
moopet will give it a read later
moopet: thanks
diana_coman: at any rate, if you want to learn and practice, you can do way worse than implementing your own V
asciilifeform: moopet: it's quite possibly world's simplest versionatron. to the point that virtually all of the current users, wrote own implementation (or use old one tailored to own taste)
diana_coman: TMSR is The Most Serene Republic; you can read the log of its public forum for instance at http://btcbase.org/log/
diana_coman: moopet: re TMSR you can have a look on trilema.com as well e.g. http://trilema.com/2015/the-definitive-sovereign/
moopet: this is quite hard going
moopet: I have to look up every other word
diana_coman: moopet: is that bad or good in your books?
moopet: it's very... subgenious
diana_coman: (and...which of the above links, lol)
moopet: all of them
moopet: I decided to read them all at once because big brain
diana_coman: moopet: what's "subgenious"?
diana_coman: heh, take it easy, it's not a sprint; more of a very deep rabbit hole
moopet: 'it's me mis-spelling subgenius
diana_coman: but feel free to come up for air and ask in here at any time
moopet will pobably be back!
moopet: but it's nearly time to go home, so bye. Thanks for talking!
diana_coman: hang around as you like
diana_coman: np, see you later
diana_coman: moopet aka Ben Sinclair, it would seem