asciilifeform: and one of the problems with 'free men' is that growing up as one tends to result in 'an aristotle' - aristocrat, who may be a very sharp fella but is not especially handy with 'slave crafts' and would normally not stoop to, e.g., programming a computer
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: nah, that's harmless fun in comparison
asciilifeform: 'fixing' it is sorta like asking to 'fix' the dumpster mcdonalds chicken bits into an actual meal.
asciilifeform: to make debugging the case where the call was not made at all, for whatever perverse reason, simpler.
asciilifeform: if trb is sleeping in a dumpster and picking old razors out of the rotting mcd 'meal' trays to eat, prb is drowning in a usg paper dump
asciilifeform: https://www.bikeji.com/t/3144 << anybody want to attempt a reliable translation from heathen tongue ?
asciilifeform: + if (BN_cmp(sig->s, halforder) < 0)
ascii_butugychag: just referring to the hypothesis, amply supported, that the folks who actually make something of themselves, have proportionately less africa in them
ascii_butugychag: this was re: the slave example
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: in the sense of your earlier example, yes
ascii_butugychag: can haz example? let's say bag man helpfully tells restaranteur, '$x/mo. or your place burns'. where is the hidden bribe ?
ascii_butugychag: Xplosionist: $slavefarm implode yet ?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: under contemplation here and now is a very basic scheduler.
asciilifeform: i.e. meter resource consumption per peer.
asciilifeform: i've held off attempting to do anything about this because 'usg can diddle packets arbitrarily, we need gossipd' but there is no particular logic to this.
asciilifeform: i am contemplating a strictly 2-tiered hierarchy here.
asciilifeform: the second mode is what all of my trb boxen are set to, and it results in a comedy where the thing routinely drops friends on the floor and dallies about attempting to connect to randomly-selected derp ips
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1377917 << i must point out that the whole 'seeding' concept - as contemplated in the dark ages pre-trb client - is profoundly braindamaged.
asciilifeform: but, importantly,
asciilifeform: y'know, if folks had listened to rms, we might still have actual computers.
ascii_butugychag: the automatic implication is that, e.g., tasteless tomatoes are a-ok so long as they are ~selectively bred~ for truck endurance rather than 'gmo'-d, for instance
ascii_butugychag: the other thing is that the operations involved in processing a new tx are O(function of mempool size)
ascii_butugychag: so turns out mircea_popescu has a mempool garbagecollector, l0l
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: trb mempool is 25MB perhaps... up to five minutes after warmup ?
ascii_butugychag: that was not my impression re: current cn
ascii_butugychag: доходяга - 'one who's walked out his walk' - has implications of starvation
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1376847 << egregious example fro earlier today
asciilifeform: i'm not sure i'd even use computers if i had Moar Money (tm) (r)
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: the basic problem is that there are no miracles, semiconductors have a temperature ceiling, the heat has to leave as quickly as it appears, or meltdown
asciilifeform pictures squad of servants, noses pinched with clothespins, emptying mircea_popescu's box for daily olive change
asciilifeform: likewise submerged cooling works great for, e.g., mains transformer outdoors, but for 'point source' of heat like cpu, requires circulation pumps, which... noise
asciilifeform: (the cases of which were solid steel, with tempest mesh - copper, gilded fingers! on all contact interfaces, pure golden toilet)
ascii_butugychag: anyway it was example.
ascii_butugychag: incidentally, your local mains power company will also shit bricks if you have serious inductive loads in your house (shifts phase, interferes with their metering)
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: the funny part is that technically it does not require computer. i am free to attempt the project with a pencil.
ascii_butugychag: every slave gets ONE plough^H^H^H^H^Hcomputer.
ascii_butugychag: oh and i suppose for completeness of this thread i oughta mention one other thing
ascii_butugychag: i am only speaking of this here because it turns out to be a PERFECT example of poetteringization
ascii_butugychag: https://github.com/flycheck/flycheck/blob/master/flycheck.el#L5768 << example of what i meant
ascii_butugychag: flymake was very simple, it just ran your makefile, which was required to have a check-syntax line in it (see, e.g., my block extractor program for example)
ascii_butugychag: which is THE standard compile-and-markup-your-window-with-errors-and-warnings widget for emacs
ascii_butugychag: is it mechanically distinguishable from 'piracy because fuckyou and it's my computer and fuckyou again' ?
ascii_butugychag: (that is, vermin who base their entire lives on strategic deception and multilevel chumpatronics)
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: my original attempt at v manifesto was largely about how... it is a weapon.
ascii_butugychag: and said document, at least in my attempt, was to describe some of the cockroaches that have been running around in human mind for millenia, that it tries to chlorophos.
ascii_butugychag: rather than the 'how', which is bound up in a particular implementation and probably best learned from ~reading its src~
ascii_butugychag: i called my draft simply 'v-genesis'
ascii_butugychag: ^ whole history of kompoyoooting as-a-field, aha.
ascii_butugychag: well if you think about it, the way we have it now is actually more complicated
ascii_butugychag: since folks are contemplating 'ideal v'
ascii_butugychag: no implicit delegations.
ascii_butugychag: the other thing i oughta mention is that imho a core principle of v-ism is that it is impermissible for trust to be implicitly delegated.
ascii_butugychag: (or rather, a slightly improved 'v' will run, existing one requires patch name to remain same)
ascii_butugychag: let's start with 'asciilifeform_tx-orphanage_amputation.vpatch.mod6.sig'
ascii_butugychag: give example of the result ?
asciilifeform: #6619 4862708 depends: bump miniupnpc and ccache << apparently upnp is still in the mix
asciilifeform: #6210 0e4f2a0 build: disable optional use of gmp in internal secp256k1 build << what's it use instead of gmp ?!!??
asciilifeform: remember how i wanted to buy the dump ?
asciilifeform: to even contemplate the notion that it doesn't matter, or to suggest that it is anything short of certain, betrays a deep ignorance of the actual making-things business as it stands for the last 200 yr.
asciilifeform: and if this doesn't look like 'cryptocurrency', don't complain, it is THE logical 'car for the k00l d00dz and not the 15m maggots'
ascii_rear: the company, however, i'd pass on
ascii_shmoocon: pray to satan against -competent- one
ascii_shmoocon: *mp transacts
ascii_shmoocon: i can think of exactly one: an 'mp-hawala', where mo transacts with the other 17 or so olympians, indeed requires no minerz...
ascii_shmoocon: also making jets is trivial compared to ic fab.
ascii_shmoocon: say mp or other decides to nuke. makes own alt? opens fiat exchanges???
asciilifeform: if i can't read it in (max) half hour and say WHAT EACH MOTHERFUCKING LINE DOES it is not a correct implementation !!
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-01-2016#1373771 << how many gas companies were there in 1820 london ?
asciilifeform: incidentally, one interesting fact perhaps unknown outside of usaschwitz is that one assumption baked into these 'shoes' is that owner DOES NOT WALK
asciilifeform: how would it meaningfully differ from your 'computers for the 15k, mud for the 15m' scenario ?
asciilifeform: !s heroes hang while traitors triumph
asciilifeform: standardization of components at that time had touched only disks
asciilifeform: and came with the soft, the source, and with the important detail that you could point at ANYTHING running and get its source IN REAL TIME
asciilifeform: (they did not make personal comp, nor ever threaten to)
asciilifeform: btw i'm not even sure it makes sense to compare the two - smbx was in an industry almost unrelated as, e.g., j. d. rockefeller's
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and the other computer vendors at the time were angels ?
asciilifeform: the ultimate 'computer for k00l d00dz'
asciilifeform: not even queen victoria was willing to pay for what a ~completed~ difference engine cost.
asciilifeform: as is the cpu in engine comp.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1373557 << disingenuous comparison, airplane needs no infrastructure other than 2 runways (and, if seaplane or heli, not them either)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1373499 << very direly, importantly, yes
ascii_shmoocon: but no, none of it is worth watching by mp
ascii_shmoocon: what I'm helpfully reminding folks of is that i am not an actual '15k' person like mp
ascii_shmoocon: also wtf, you can't have a planet with 15 much less 15k mp's
ascii_shmoocon: didja ever read yossi kreinin's piece 'computers you can't program ' ?
ascii_shmoocon: another legendarily terrible example
ascii_shmoocon: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1372997 << if not for 100 years of chump, we'd have to make it all from horse
ascii_butugychag: 'If you noticed, yesterday at the Hutchins Center, they had a very important meeting comprised of 15 or so people. They included 6-8 members from the Federal Reserve, R3 members, Bitcoin industry members, and also individuals from greater finance. When the R3 guy was speaking, https://youtu.be/R0iArSIU0Z8?t=47m16s , he was saying "I don't know what time it is, but any minute now there will
ascii_butugychag: like the inca empire.
ascii_butugychag: orlov may not even have understood the full implications of his lulzpiece
ascii_butugychag: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8054273/how-to-implement-an-stl-style-iterator-and-avoid-common-pitfalls/8054856#8054856 << ditto
ascii_butugychag: a proper thing simply does not fit on this here desk.
ascii_butugychag: 'These two groups will always be at odds: the former striving endlessly to turn shitholes into nice little houses, and shabby ghettos into marginally liveable neighborhoods; and the latter preying upon the former's parks for places to sleep, their churches for free meals, and generally attempting to take the nice things for which they did no work and kick the others out.' << that last sent
ascii_butugychag: http://bikeportland.org/2014/02/21/parks-works-to-clear-large-encampment-on-springwater-corridor-101898 << we don't have this here
ascii_butugychag: checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no
ascii_butugychag: 'pcengines' makes a cheaper and physically more compact box with AMD chipset, of same horsepower
asciilifeform: (implemented on a cl, yes, but is really a specialist tool)
ascii_butugychag: my mind is still boggling at the sheer monumental complexity of the signed-git crud
asciilifeform: how is tx malleation supposed to impress anybody with the majesty of usg ?
asciilifeform: i must be simple-minded, then
asciilifeform: 'The requirement to have signatures that comply strictly with DER has been enforced as a relay policy by the reference client since v0.8.0, and very few transactions violating it are being added to the chain as of January 2015. ' <<< ahahaha turns out i was right, even per the horse's own mouth
asciilifeform: if death ray man were not already in jail, he would find good company in oregon.
asciilifeform: 'Justice Department officials have said that if the new systems work as advertised, they will make it virtually impossible to solve some cases,as the companies have promised customers the equivalent of a house that can't be searched, or a car trunk that could never be opened.'
asciilifeform: of encryption and anonymizing technology to conceal contraband materials and disguise their locations. Andrew Weissmann, a former FBI general counsel, has publically called the use of such encryption technology outrageous. According to his analysis, even a judge's decision that there is probable cause tosuspect a crime has been committed won't get Apple or Google to help retrieve potential evidence. In essence these companies
asciilifeform: ^ and those swarms were properly computed, even
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-01-2016#1368904 << is the concept of impedance-mismatch-with-os unclear to mircea_popescu ?
ascii_butugychag: jurov: if this were actually so, and he were consistent about 'in wot', would have to avoid, e.g., aircraft with computerized autopilot
ascii_butugychag: actually english speakers are so habituated to this that they have problems with ANY attempt at 'english-parsing machine'
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: iirc 'mplayer' does, aha
ascii_butugychag: does it convey the complete 'meaning of starwars' ?
ascii_butugychag: it does not stand alone in an empty universe, no
ascii_butugychag: it is imperfect
ascii_butugychat: or so much as attempt ?
ascii_butugychag: 'Councilman Clinton J. Olivier... ...asked Dyer a simple question: “Could you run my threat level now?” Dyer agreed. The scan returned Olivier as a green, but his home came back as a yellow, possibly because of someone who previously lived at his address, a police official said.'
ascii_butugychag: complete with barfproof floor
ascii_butugychag: cl is not, e.g., haskell, does not attempt mechanical type inference
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2016#1368478 << the sole purpose of 'proclaim' is to hand-optimize where the compiler cannot SAFELY do it
ascii_butugychag: (example)
ascii_butugychag: or simply derping about, prescribing tools for folks who actually ~do~, as if proposing stalls for cattle ?
asciilifeform: as in the mircea_popescu> because capital alpha is A. example,
asciilifeform: simplicity.
asciilifeform: ah iirc this is 'attempted connect'
asciilifeform: this is not implicit in the question, is it
asciilifeform: this is sorta what happened. symbolics co. had to 'compromise' with the turd vendors
asciilifeform: in a way that doesn't leave the crud exchanges simply going to a pit to die
asciilifeform: picture if satan lifted his magic wand, and, somehow, mpex and glbse (!) and havel0l, et al, had to ALL sit down and STANDARDIZE the stock exchange ...
asciilifeform: and it is ~wrong~ to IMPLICITLY arithmetize on non-arithmetic objects.
asciilifeform: the committee could not and did not, afaik, remotely contemplate attempting to invent unicode or similar.
asciilifeform: by default, it starts from beginning and iterates, comparing each thing, until finds or until runs out of thing.
asciilifeform: this is not implicit in the act of searching
asciilifeform: the machine will compare every element to your search item.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that was a warning not to attach side effects to the act of comparison
asciilifeform: and it is a preemptive and permanent cure for the unicode retardation.
asciilifeform: 'Each character code is composed from a character script and a character label. The convention by which a character script and character label compose a character code is implementation dependent. [X3J13 did not approve all parts of the proposal from its Subcommittee on Characters. As a result, some features that were approved appear to have no purpose.'
asciilifeform: can you picture a computeralgebratron that eats english ?
asciilifeform: and if your working memory is titanic and you laugh, all that is needed is to come up with an example that straddles the line ~for you~
asciilifeform: and to compare this to the idiot 'smiley' crapolade is lunacy
asciilifeform: ^ my implementation of mr. mold's early syllables
asciilifeform: may be simply on account of the ~80% drop in traffic, though.
ascii_butugychag: tell this to the room-temp iq folks.
ascii_butugychag: as if using longhand made text somehow magically comprehensible to all and unpriestlike.
ascii_butugychag: will take my maximally-compact notations from my cold, dead hands.
ascii_butugychag: people who ~live and die~ by motherfucking compact equations, ALWAYS invent hieroglyphs
ascii_butugychag: trinque: compact at a price
ascii_butugychag: trinque: because it is compact.
ascii_butugychag: if i can't read, say, http://www.complexity.ethz.ch/education/Lectures/ComplexityHS10/ScriptChapterTwelve WITHOUT ANY degradation in quality, searchability, without superfluous page breaks or line breaks, 'can't dance'
ascii_butugychag: trinque: i have yet to see even a sane implementation of, e.g., mathml.
ascii_butugychag: or at least understand why tex is complicated ?
ascii_butugychag: mocsny had examples, e.g., man takes 'viagra', turning cock into a mechanism, in the sense that you walk into a forest and are not content to sit on ~any~ old surface, if you are there long enough you start making chairs, polishing the wood, etc
ascii_butugychag: when 'computer' was a... job description
ascii_butugychag: by being ~extremely~ tight, and, importantly, well-specified, in what input they accept.
ascii_butugychag: 'How many problems did you have with hardware compared to OS compared to end-user apps? According to most evidence I got, JavaScript does whatever the hell it wants at each browser. Hardware is not like that. CPUs from the same breed will run the user-level instructions identically or get off the market. Memory-mapped devices following a hardware protocol for talking to the bus will actually follow it, damn it, or ge
ascii_butugychag: after the successful test of malleus h., i've been tempted to write one
ascii_butugychag: the emphasis on local police is intensely usgtronic, however.
ascii_butugychag: (for n00bz: lamport signature is to signing approx. what otp is to encipherment)
ascii_butugychag: (at least for now, at some point folks might start using lattice or even, fuck, lamport signatures)
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-01-2016#1366191 << complicated. v is deliberately unusable with 'fuzzy' flow
ascii_butugychag: well it is implicit in the reference to zooko's triangle
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-01-2016#1366025 << y'know, reimplementing portage in cl (or whatever, fuck, in fortran if you want) instead of python doesn't magically unbreak the foss ecosystem
asciilifeform: iirc when i did netbsd i built for linux and used the compat layer.
asciilifeform: adlai: not only do we not use hearn's bloom filter, but an hour ago i have banned anyone showing symptoms of doing so from connecting to my nodes.
asciilifeform: adlai: find me another comp with GB ethernet and SATA that can be bought for under $20.
asciilifeform: http://museum.ipsj.or.jp/computer/word/images/0027_02_l.jpg << in other 'nyoooz'
asciilifeform: also because we don't have computers.
asciilifeform: in practice, the errors compound and magnify into near-useless soup.
asciilifeform: 'mac' is, quite monopolistically, the only USABLE-for-development portable unix box presently sold, and the ios boxen - the only non-infested-five-minutes-after-uncrating pocket computers presently sold.
asciilifeform: we don't actually know, afaik, how to make computers without maggotry.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty much whole 'history of computing' is a story of ascendant charlatans peddling garbage while burying actual thinking folk selling to thinking folk
asciilifeform discovered the other day that $rupturefarm has a very spiffy library. quite comparable to his own, at least on scientific subjects
asciilifeform: landlord at my last office liked to leave 'christmas package' in every mailbox. it had 'food': items like 'cheese' that was good INDEFINITELY at room temperature, 'meat' where ditto, etc
asciilifeform: this could even mean that they would remain 'on the network' (pulling blocks on time, which all 3 presently are) but lose whatever mempool gibblets.
asciilifeform: <asciilifeform> because - remember! - if it relies on a tx that is NOT IN A BLOCK, that tx MUST be in my mempool
asciilifeform: still pumping
asciilifeform: complicated. pg tries to position himself as 'legit business'
asciilifeform: from empty space.
asciilifeform: go compile rotor.
asciilifeform: anyway 'compile trb' was never a mega-feat
ascii_butugychag: 'It does install qmake, just not where it was installed before. ..... This change was made to allow parallel install of qt4 and qt5 (and, possible, other qt# variations). If you're having issues with other ports that depend on qt4-mac, please open a ticket for each and/or list them here & we will work hard to get them fixed promptly.
ascii_butugychag: 'trophy wife' implies brass ?
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-01-2016#1362991 << hey, nintendo doesn't expose filesystem either! and nobody seems to complain...
asciilifeform: l0l! job?! would ~you~ employ such a person ?
asciilifeform: it is stamped 'not valid for driving' or the like
asciilifeform: in su - was identifying document that, with some extra verbiage stamped on, doubled as travel passport
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-01-2016#1362849 << this did not happen with sov citizens. normally there is some bantustan which is in an immediate hurry to lay claim to the fragments of the old empire
asciilifeform for example has a passport, fat lot of good it does
asciilifeform: 'Is was Wednesday, March 26, 2014. It was a cold winter outside, but not inside an old building of the Princeton university campus. The room, full of people, was warm. I was standing in front of some of the brightest minds in Bitcoin: Andresen, Bonneau, Eyal, Maxwell, Miller, Gün Sirer, Szabo, Todd and Zooko, to name only a few. My talk was about SPV Mining...'
asciilifeform: mega-empires, their standing armies, and demented fuhrers don't hang automagically
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-01-2016#1362563 << it is provably impossible in the general case, which (i think) everybody knows. but did ben_vulpes miss the ada threads ? you can do it for particular programs. just, the usefulness is questionable imho.
asciilifeform: or fried the old mpex disks ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-01-2016#1362174 << i can print and 'hodl' ten quintillion shares in an imaginary interstellar shipping company, does not bring ftl flight any closer
asciilifeform: yeah but is the manual component any kind of barrier against it presently.
asciilifeform: better example of 'real person serving as muppet flees and tells interesting things' is rezun
asciilifeform: at least - temporarily.
asciilifeform: this is not an impossible feat.
asciilifeform: but the turd ~itself~ will not compile c/cpp.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it started up on a sacrificial gentoo box without complaint
asciilifeform: no c compiler in there
asciilifeform: cia is an equal-opportunity employer! (tm) (r)
asciilifeform: nor was the original 'feature' emplaced thereby.
asciilifeform: the important thing imho is to distinguish 'broken' (if only this!) from the actuality - ~~misengineered~~
asciilifeform: i am in the process of working this transmogrification for pgp, a CONSIDERABLY simpler animal, and am astonished every day
asciilifeform: and much of the gnarl in this thread stems from attempts to somehow work around this fact
asciilifeform: i know more or less nothing about mircea_popescucoin, but from what i recall, the item he has now is the result of having attempted this very 'c0d3rz are fungible and 10s of k usd actually buys something' thing in the past, and ended up with... this
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-01-2016#1361792 << this is only true if you have a correctly-implemented bitcoinatron
ascii_butugychag: thestringpuller: i own an example of just about every kind of toy
ascii_butugychag: i can't recall anybody else attempting 'embrace & extinguish' (tm) (r) on... mathematics.
ascii_butugychag: 'This is annoying if, as sometimes happens, the most important aspect is a singularity. Worse is the view offered by fans of the program (not necessarily WRI employees!) that an answer is correct because it is what Mathematica computes, and any view to the contrary is the fault of the user (perhaps for misunderstanding the documentation.)'
ascii_butugychag: 'Quickutil is a different approach to utility libraries. Instead of being a single, monolithic library, e.g., Alexandria, it attempts to be a nimble and lean platform for distribution of utilities piecemeal.'
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-01-2016#1361472 << l0l quickutil: 'An attempt at a solution to this problem was to create what became the de facto standard library for Common Lisp utilities: Alexandria. While Alexandria contains on the order of 100 high quality, useful utilities, it suffers from a very slow-moving oligarchy. Alexandria's improvement depends on their willingness to cooperate in a timely manner
ascii_butugychag: and naturally we get the usgtronics: 'As usual, the fact that it's possible to implement a dangerous algorithm correctly, doesn't mean it's humanely possible, and safer algorithms (and primitives) must always be preferred. (See also: deterministic ECDSA.)'
asciilifeform: it is possible to live in a sewer. eat from a 'dumpster.'
asciilifeform: t has the advantage of being totally open (full source code). One can manipulate polynomials in several variables over the integers, rational functions, and a variety of other mathematical objects. Manipulations include simplification, differentiation, integration, evaluation, pattern matching, etc.'
asciilifeform: '...a Common Lisp package and libraries called MockMMA. see the directory for a recent revision of this Mockmma. This version is more directed to being compatible with the source-forge program Maxima, even if Maxima is being run in GCL, a Lisp dialect lacking in full upper-lower case control. (This is a disadvantage because Mathematica uses many mixed-case identifiers). To the user, this somewhat resembles Mathematica (tm), bu
asciilifeform: see also http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/398777/almost-everyone-dhs-essential-employee-ryan-lovelace
asciilifeform: e.g., the foo bar example,
asciilifeform: 'have nfi what the point' would be an ~improvement~
asciilifeform: it is in the attempt to divorce the abstraction of what the user is doing from the actual rsa (moduli)
asciilifeform: my main objection to subkey as implemented in gpg is that IT DOES NOT TELL YOU OR EVEN LET YOU CHOOSE with which modulus (i.e. which sub) it actually signs with !
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: my understanding was that mpex users kept a separate, unpublished pubkey just for it
asciilifeform: subkey is one of those things that could be a useful idea IF IT WORKED and WERE NOT IMPLEMENTED BY IDIOT
asciilifeform: ^ pgpdump -i
asciilifeform: though, interestingly, importing the 3TH7E2K.txt yields a warning, 'gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found'
ascii_butugychag: not any more than ~compiles on~ nintendo.
ascii_butugychag: at any rate i can't see how this relates, nobody compiles on motherfucking phone
ascii_butugychag: (from https://gmplib.org/devel/tm-date.html where else)
ascii_butugychag: and: 'We recently added testing with clang, which resulted in lots of new failures. These are not caused by GMP bugs, but rather by clang bugs, or on some case by compatibility problems between GCC and clang (the latter claims to be GCC and thereby is assumed to be compatible). It is in most cases not possible for the GMP team to resolve this situation. For now, avoid clang if you care about correctness.'
ascii_butugychag: meanwhile... 'Spurious check failures happen for machines without ECC memory. Of our test systems, all machines with Intel CPUs as well as some AMD low-end systems lack ECC. This is a result of that AMD supports ECC generally while Intel only supports ECC for Xeon CPUs relying on more expensive motherboards. But the GMP project is struggling to afford even the cheapest hardware.'
ascii_butugychag: 'available' is complicated
ascii_butugychag: they recently switched to meat compilers
ascii_rear: http://www.arkayengravers.com/samples.htm << where found.
ascii_rear: ok so it turns out that mircea_popescu is simply insisting on 'p' !!
ascii_rear: the statement 'anybody signing with this key after $condition is an impostor' is usefully machine-readable
ascii_rear: thread was originally 'timestamps in pgp considered harmful' iirc
ascii_rear: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358906 << how? recall that we already have cross-compilation
ascii_rear: as in, with awareness of what all of the pgpdump fields are, yes
ascii_rear: only in the same sense that a sinking tanker makes empirestate bldg taller
ascii_rear: mircea_popescu had an article about simple text stego
ascii_rear: adlai: have you read my ancient piece re: mpex ?
ascii_rear: r link is encrypted. Our experiments suggest that simple Keyboard JitterBugs can be a practical technique for capturing and exfiltrating typed secrets under conventional OSes and interactive network applications, even when the receiver is many hops away on the Internet.'
ascii_rear: 'This paper introduces JitterBugs , a class of inline interception mechanisms that covertly transmit data by perturbing the timing of input events likely to affect externally observable network traffic. JitterBugs positioned at input devices deep within the trusted environment (e.g., hidden in cables or connectors) can leak sensitive data without compromising the host or its software. In particular, we show a practical
ascii_rear: http://www.leningrad.su/museum/show_big.php?n=2369 << the examples in the manual involve neutron kinetics in reactor
ascii_rear: ^ 'personal analogue computer'
asciilifeform: adlai: what's 'funemployed' ?
asciilifeform: the high wages in usa come simply from the sheer volume of bezzle sloshing around, and don't actually buy anything interesting (the lack of shit rivers in the streets has nothing whatsoever to do with the number of zeroes in front of the decimal point)