dub: KRS1: +1
    
    dub: the good ship crypto
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10065 @ 0.00083348 = 8.389 BTC [+]
    
    benkay: hash pirate
    
    benkay: hasboat
    
    benkay: hash*boat
    
    dub: just #boat
    
    thestringpuller: ;;calc (350 - 320) / 320
    
    gribble: 0.09375
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.0010501 = 0.21 BTC [-]
    
    KRS1: hmm you'd get pulled over too much in the U.S. if you ever come here
    
    KRS1: I would..I mean "Hash Boat"  for real?
    
    KRS1: Thats like calling a boat "Cocaine"
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.0010501 = 0.21 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 316 @ 0.0010501 = 0.3318 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11324 @ 0.00083327 = 9.4359 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 315 @ 0.00185 = 0.5828 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 585 @ 0.00185001 = 1.0823 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1304 @ 0.00105 = 1.3692 BTC [-] {4} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7500 @ 0.0001275 = 0.9563 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1759 @ 0.00105 = 1.847 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.0001276 = 0.2552 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 3150 @ 0.00105 = 3.3075 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 63 @ 0.00186 = 0.1172 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00082679 = 4.9194 BTC [-]
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
    
    gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 380.11002, Best ask: 380.22614, Bid-ask spread: 0.11612, Last trade: 380.11002, 24 hour volume: 18810.11241169, 24 hour low: 339.01, 24 hour high: 383.73, 24 hour vwap: 365.36448
    
    
    
    ozbot: Feel in danger? Stay classy, buy a bulletproof suit - FRANCE 24
    
    mircea_popescu: nanotube ^
    
    dub: the perfect xmas gift for that special cyrptoanarchoterrorist in your life
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 800 @ 0.00105 = 0.84 BTC [-]
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;ident davout
    
    gribble: Nick 'davout', with hostmask 'davout!~chef@unaffiliated/davout', is not identified.
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;ident davout
    
    gribble: Nick 'davout', with hostmask 'davout!~chef@unaffiliated/davout', is identified as user davout, with GPG key id 13288EAB01713428, key fingerprint 291237F37A2C023CADBED52513288EAB01713428, and bitcoin address None
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1809 @ 0.0001276 = 0.2308 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2705 @ 0.0001375 = 0.3719 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    
    
    ozbot: itBit Launches Bitcoin Exchange with $5.5M in Funding - The Genesis Block
    
    jurov: that Rich Teo looks very fuckable
    
    jurov: oh and bitcash.cz exchange was hacked and btcs stolen
    
    mircea_popescu: o wow, they could almost buy 10`000 mpoe shares.
    
    
    
    ozbot: Why you can’t invest with Cryptostocks pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
    
    mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm aware of all the overloads you ppl have been causing, and i'm getting a beefier setup for trilema this weekend.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9248 @ 0.00082667 = 7.645 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    jurov: Would recommend to add a form to buy credits quickly.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.61029705 = 12.2059 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.60230769 = 7.83 BTC [-] {6} 
    
    BingoBoingo: A trilema credit form would make it easier when people get pissed I bumped them into the paywall...
    
    mircea_popescu: yeah.
    
    mircea_popescu: it's being worked on this.
    
    pankkake: clicking on the credits gets you a romanian page, not very helpful too
    
    mircea_popescu: it does ?
    
    mircea_popescu: meh. i updated the message but apparenlty not the page.
    
    mircea_popescu: yeah this is unconscionable, needs a revamp.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 953 @ 0.00105 = 1.0007 BTC [-]
    
    davout: also refreshing the page on the same article eats a credit
    
    mircea_popescu: only if you have one
    
    davout: what ?
    
    davout: also randomly ended up on "The advantages of having a baby"
    
    davout: "Quite often will you hear of partners that abandoned their business to go back to teaching (the rough equivalent of a circus dancer all things considered)" <-- LOL
    
    mircea_popescu: this is to officially notify you that we have received a confirmation advice from the International
    
    mircea_popescu: Monetary Funds External Auditors Committee, World Bank, United Nations Organization
    
    mircea_popescu: and the Federal Reserve Bank of America respectively via International Payment Voucher Number:
    
    mircea_popescu: IMF/FRBWDC/BOA-93WB82UN567-G requesting our bank to direct the HSBC BANK USA N.A, a subsidiary of the Federal Reserve Bank of America
    
    mircea_popescu: I KNEW IT!!!
    
    mircea_popescu: us banks are subsidiaries of the fed!
    
    mircea_popescu: also boa and hsbc are the same thing
    
    mircea_popescu: o how the rpietilla conspiraci unravels!
    
    dub: ;;nethash
    
    gribble: 4599064.97278
    
    mircea_popescu: watch it not break 500 this year.
    
    jurov: as in, watched pot never boils?
    
    mircea_popescu: something like that yeah.
    
    mircea_popescu: .d
    
    ozbot: 510929738.01615 | Next Diff in 950 blocks | Estimated Change: 11.8688% in 5d 19h 27m 15s
    
    davout: the cryptostocks thing is priceless
    
    mircea_popescu: yeah, i'm mostly writing these as they happen because in like two centuries they will be worth at least 1 btc each.
    
    mircea_popescu: "mom, i'm hungry" "hush, i'm coding. you ate yesterday"
    
    mircea_popescu: #WomenInTech
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-]
    
    
    
    mircea_popescu: this is so many layers of irony :D
    
    pankkake: and I just learned a new word: shitlord
    
    mircea_popescu: nonsensical fringe basically consists of insulation (otherwise it wouldn't survive).
    
    mircea_popescu: part of this insulation is inventing words all the time. thus shitlord and douchecanoe and fireperson and so on and so forth.
    
    mircea_popescu: the less intelligent people can follow their nonsense, and even better, the less intelligent people can be bothered to follow their nonsense, the better chance of still being around in a year feminists have.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.0008215 = 3.9021 BTC [-]
    
    
    
    ozbot: Urban Dictionary: mra
    
    mircea_popescu: haha this kicks ass.
    
    mircea_popescu: every single definition on the first page is beyond butthurt.
    
    mircea_popescu: sort of shit is enough to make you want to be a mra.
    
    mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/1f2ul5/youre_not_allowed_to_have_an_opinion_also_female/
    
    mircea_popescu: and with that i'm done with my current review of gender-related-retardation, my sides hurt.
    
    pankkake: oh, tumblr :/ where penetration is rape
    
    mircea_popescu: o it is ?
    
    ThickAsThieves: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/8132/obama-initiative-spawns-identity-based-bitcoin-greenlist/
    
    ThickAsThieves: misleading title
    
    ozbot: Obama Initiative Spawns Identity Based Bitcoin Greenlist – Bitcoin Magazine
    
    ThickAsThieves: remove the word bitcoin
    
    mircea_popescu: and the word magazine
    
    ThickAsThieves: hehe
    
    mircea_popescu: im surprised that thingstill exists
    
    mircea_popescu: did the romanian guy that stole it from buterin and co to "sell" it to bitpay&co not run with it yet ?!
    
    mircea_popescu: seems incredible.
    
    ThickAsThieves: it seems to be more of an outlet for the writers to try and look like they know whats up about stuff
    
    ThickAsThieves: like a journal or sumth
    
    mircea_popescu: that was kinda always the case iirc.
    
    truffles: at least they can write well
    
    mircea_popescu: no but there was this acrimonious split earlier, when vladimir guy got ousted by the coffee gofer.
    
    ThickAsThieves: who's the target audience?
    
    ThickAsThieves: other bloggers?
    
    mircea_popescu: the convention crowd, ideally.
    
    ThickAsThieves: indeed
    
    mircea_popescu: now if the convention crowd only read...
    
    mircea_popescu: maybe this magazine should come as a collection of presentation sheets attachjed to a slinky.
    
    ThickAsThieves: dont forget the plastic bitcoin
    
    mircea_popescu: btw, how about that dragons tale ipo.
    
    ThickAsThieves: so TradeFortress made The Verge
    
    ThickAsThieves: how long before he's arrested?
    
    mircea_popescu: bitcoin is so totally going to 500... all these lolz support it.
    
    mircea_popescu: actually this suggests a bet.
    
    KRS1: lolz
    
    Vexual: hew wont be arrested
    
    ThickAsThieves: my dentist has heard of bitcoin, "it's all over the news" he says
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2385 @ 0.0001375 = 0.3279 BTC [+]
    
    jurov: mircea_popescu:btw you know the same thing as dragontales happened before with fidor bank?
    
    mircea_popescu: 1K4FswVNus5xJZJ6TYqAzWSy3tXBBFdGnM
    
    jurov: lol seems the traffic from trilema took cstocks down :D
    
    ThickAsThieves: and i'm still skeptical on that cointerra one
    
    jurov: We're sorry, but something went wrong.
    
    mircea_popescu: jurov yeah
    
    mircea_popescu: i mean on fidor
    
    mircea_popescu: lol @ exchange
    
    mircea_popescu: and here we go : http://bitbet.us/bet/600/tradefortress-arrested/
    
    Vexual: hes chinese looking and lives in sydney
    
    ThickAsThieves: the webwallet is called Inputs.io (just in case you wanna be specific)
    
    mircea_popescu: what, and miss an opportunity of arguing over badly specified bets ?
    
    ThickAsThieves: heh
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;nethash
    
    gribble: 4628862.31448
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;bcstats
    
    gribble: Current Blocks: 269218 | Current Difficulty: 5.109297380161518E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 270143 | Next Difficulty In: 925 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 19 hours, 37 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 578686259.228 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.26142
    
    ThickAsThieves: back on track
    
    mircea_popescu: rev rev rev the miner
    
    mircea_popescu: gently up the graph
    
    jurov: Vexual: you're gonna put up "WANTED: chinese looking, indetifies himself as TF. 10BTC reward" posters over sydney?
    
    mircea_popescu: merrily merrily merrily merrily
    
    mircea_popescu: hash is but a dream.
    
    mircea_popescu: i wonder if anyone realises all the computation that went into the blockchain so far could have probably cured cancer.
    
    jurov: not likely
    
    Vexual: no, id get 100,100 delivered and wouldn't be able to pay and i wouldent want them anyway
    
    ThickAsThieves: well maybe ASICMINER gets into that type of thing one day and we can indirectly claim dogooderhood
    
    Vexual: all of them with their cousins id that doesnt say tradefortress
    
    mircea_popescu: jurov it just depends on what exactly you're calculating :) the advantage of hashing is that the forumulation is simple.
    
    jurov: imho most directly comparable thing is Folding@Home
    
    jurov: it could have progressed 100x faster, not sure it can be done on ASICs
    
    mircea_popescu: yeah, folding is also kind of simple to formulate.
    
    mircea_popescu: not actually as simple as the blockchain, which is why probably not asic-able.
    
    Vexual: perhaps the blockchain will cure cancer
    
    ThickAsThieves: they are sorting out a distributed exchange first
    
    mircea_popescu: i wonder if dogooderhood comes with hoodies and a year's supply of dogfood.
    
    ThickAsThieves: mas importante
    
    Vexual: yes i don't know if sha256 exists in natural life in any form
    
    Vexual: perhaps watching the chain grow will present some eureka moment where we find that life on earth is just a currency invesnted by some cosmic satioshi eons before
    
    truffles: so profound
    
    jurov: Vexual maybe if you'll upload yourself into a blockchain and get used as a currency
    
    jurov: until someone sends you to 1BitcoinEater
    
    davout: Vexual: lol
    
    BingoBoingo: Vanitygening 1BitcoinEater is probably the Bitcoin equivalent of folding at home
    
    Vexual: pointless?
    
    BingoBoingo: Vexual: Inefficient.
    
    thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles
    
    gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 18 hours, 41 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <smickles> $avg
    
    mircea_popescu: incidentally, since it's a topic. i've not much followed it, but i know folding@home has been going for a few years
    
    mircea_popescu: has any sort of useful science whatsoever come from it so far ?
    
    Vexual: they should give shares on future patents, and watch the computing power go up
    
    Vexual: good question
    
    Vexual: and how does one know theyre not folding airbourne aids?
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.595 = 1.19 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.60999999 = 6.1 BTC [+] {4} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.61 = 2.44 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69358300 BTC to 1`387`166 shares, 50 satoshi per share
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 75 @ 0.00563965 = 0.423 BTC [-] {6} 
    
    BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Not that I'm aware of yet. From what I understand folding proteins is sort of the raw brute force work that happens many steps before useful science. Kind of like guessing nonces... Maybe mining is a decent comparison.
    
    mircea_popescu: sooo, six weeks in, obama's thing has managed 50k signups
    
    mircea_popescu: with such a great launch they should be ipoing that shit
    
    ThickAsThieves: sabotaged by insider tea partiers ofc
    
    Vexual: privitise!
    
    mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the kulaks, yeah.
    
    mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah, many steps before, but still... eventually we gotta see somerthing i guess
    
    benkay: brute forcing reality fails on the grounds that reality moves way fucking fast and has for a long time
    
    benkay: but the incentivized humans may have pulled a trick or two while the nerds were stroking
    
    
    
    
    
    ozbot: Algorithm discovery by protein folding game players
    
    BingoBoingo: benkay: Your second link looks promising, aspies as ASICs
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.0008215 = 1.8484 BTC [-]
    
    Vexual: http://patents.justia.com/assignee/the-board-of-trustees-of-the-leland-stanford-junior-university
    
    ozbot: Patents by Assignee The Board of Trustees of the
    
    benkay: let's go track down an aspie
    
    BingoBoingo: I hear there are quite a few in -otc and -dev
    
    Vexual: those molecular biology patents stack up when you have a free supercomputer
    
    Vexual: The Government has certain rights in this invention. Support was also provided under NSF award MRI-R2 “Acquisition of a Hybrid CPU/GPU and Visualization Cluster for Multidisciplinary Studies in Transport Physics with Uncertainty Quantification.”
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.585 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.0056001 = 0.4088 BTC [-]
    
    
    
    ozbot: Diamondoid monolayers as electron emitters Patent
    
    benkay: monochromatic electrons! neat!
    
    Vexual: i wonder if thats in the new laser canon?
    
    
    
    ozbot: Composition and Method For Upconversion of Light
    
    benkay: one might munge that into a rectenna
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.04799999 = 0.144 BTC [+]
    
    Vexual: that diamondoid patent is funny, apparently the navy is interested in making flat panel tvs
    
    benkay: wait Vexual are you sober!?
    
    Vexual: id think those new 4k panels will put out a bit of heat
    
    Vexual: HDMI1, HDMI2, SHOOTDRONE
    
    Vexual: i guess it would cure cancer if you stood in front of it
    
    
    
    ozbot: Obama, getting crushed in the marketplace pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
    
    nubbins`: 3do!
    
    nubbins`: now there's a name from the past
    
    mircea_popescu: innit.
    
    nubbins`: i think goldstar, which ended up being swallowed up into the G of LG, made a 3do system at one point
    
    mircea_popescu: iirc it was panasonic
    
    mircea_popescu: ex mistuSHITa
    
    nubbins`: yeah, i believe panasonic licensed the technology
    
    nubbins`: afaik goldstar was the only other company to actually take up the offer
    
    
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.33286138 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.04835 = 0.1451 BTC [+]
    
    mircea_popescu: o hey, wd.
    
    Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyMRy_Xv0sY <from folding at home
    
    ozbot: [Lasers] US Navy/DoE 'free electron laser' weapon system destroying a helicopter and missiles - YouT
    
    mircea_popescu: Vexual what's the connction to folding@home ?!
    
    Vexual: the patenet from stanford where pando labvs is, they would have modeled many electron configs on a system such as that
    
    mircea_popescu: i thought folding mostly has to do with protein configurations
    
    Vexual: the navy and the doe are on the patent, but it mainly mentions flat panel tvs as an application, no actual mention of fel
    
    Vexual: it does any shemistry you want
    
    benkay: as opposed to hemistry
    
    benkay: privilege physics
    
    mircea_popescu: lol
    
    nubbins`: check your physics!
    
    mircea_popescu: unchecked physiques result in nightmare fuel.
    
    Vexual: they might have used their own gpus
    
    pankkake: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/11/bizarre_online.html gambling is now terrorism!
    
    ozbot: Schneier on Security: Bizarre Online Gambling Movie-Plot Threat
    
    Vexual: or a blackboard
    
    mircea_popescu: scheier totally doesn't work for the usg.
    
    mircea_popescu: also for the record, the 9/11 "operation" cost something like 20k if memory serves.
    
    mircea_popescu: even accounting for the 300% obamainflation, that's still a small enough sum that it can be obtained by selling a couipla cars.
    
    benkay: and totally distracted baby me from the argentinean crises
    
    benkay: crisis*
    
    benkay: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/11/craig-cobb-white-supremacist-black_n_4256360.html?utm_hp_ref=tw
    
    ozbot: Video Of White Supremacist Learning He Is 14 Percent Black May Be The Best Thing Ever
    
    mircea_popescu: i'll give 2:! odds the guy doesn't care.
    
    benkay: the cackling fat black woman is my favorite part of the video
    
    pankkake: doing a terrorist attack is incredibly cheap and easy
    
    pankkake: sometimes the stupidity around it makes me want to demonstrate
    
    pankkake: but then I'll end up in prison even with no actual damage done
    
    Vexual: The author states that a nanocrystalline material is essentially a new type of diamond film whose properties are largely determined by the bonding of the carbons within grain boundaries.
    
    benkay: dat graphene
    
    benkay: magic shit
    
    nubbins`: lel, just got off the phone with a supplier
    
    nubbins`: "hey, you were trying to set up a wholesale acct with us?"
    
    nubbins`: no idea who they are or what they sell
    
    nubbins`: somehow they have all our info
    
    nubbins`: "ok well i guess someone wanted the account, go ahead and set us up"
    
    nubbins`: totally not related to the work we do at all, but w/e
    
    nubbins`: after hanging up and checking out their website, i realize they sell this obscure ink remover we've been trying to track down for weeks
    
    Vexual: u migth have elves
    
    mircea_popescu: or slavegirls.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 250 @ 0.0010501 = 0.2625 BTC [+]
    
    davout: pankkake: let's discuss a couple targets, i needed a new door anyway
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 865 @ 0.00012825 = 0.1109 BTC [-]
    
    
    
    ozbot: [WTB/WTS] Casascius Holo Error / Collectible Marketplace
    
    nubbins`: now that's a collection
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1500 @ 0.00012825 = 0.1924 BTC [-]
    
    bitesak: trilema.com seems down...
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 110 @ 0.0010501 = 0.1155 BTC [+]
    
    mircea_popescu: it's been having trouble keeping up.
    
    
    
    ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 101 @ 0.0010501 = 0.1061 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 194 @ 0.0010501 = 0.2037 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    bitesak: too popular articles ! what on earth is happening here
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.58268338 = 3.4961 BTC [-] {4} 
    
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    mircea_popescu: http://updatednews.ca/2013/11/07/u-s-authorities-arrests-man-for-selling-guns-online-for-bitcoins/
    
    ozbot: U.S. authorities arrests man for selling guns online for Bitcoins - Updated News
    
    mircea_popescu: bitesak anyway, for now the solution is to try again in a few minutes siort of thing
    
    nubbins`: that headline is misleading
    
    nubbins`: they arrested him for selling guns online, full stop
    
    mircea_popescu: myeah
    
    benkay: next up: disposable plastic firearms
    
    benkay: ;;ticker --market bitstamp
    
    gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 350.0, Best ask: 350.5, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 350.5, 24 hour volume: 20610.25241994, 24 hour low: 323.78, 24 hour high: 357.0, 24 hour vwap: 345.151004566
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2047 @ 0.0010501 = 2.1496 BTC [+]
    
    
    
    ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
    
    nubbins`: ^ there's been a lot of this happening around the house lately
    
    pankkake: just got my friedcat shirt!
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 312 @ 0.00198998 = 0.6209 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 291 @ 0.00209898 = 0.6108 BTC [+]
    
    mircea_popescu: wd!
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7393 @ 0.00012825 = 0.9482 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 569 @ 0.00209898 = 1.1943 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    pankkake: what kind of things could one use to measure inflation? there's the obvious gold, but I'm looking for other things, like pizzas, oil…?
    
    pankkake: to be clearer, I'm looking for things with price feeds
    
    mircea_popescu: the only way this was ever done was a composite basket sort of thing.
    
    mircea_popescu: say something like 10% oil 5% gold 15% pork bellies 20% grain 20% average housing costs 30% minimum wage
    
    pankkake: yeah, I know those ones, but first of all the ratio is usually pullet out of someone's ass
    
    pankkake: and I'm looking for something sexy like "how many pizzas is a bitcoin over time"
    
    pankkake: gold is the easy one, perhaps oil too
    
    mircea_popescu: thats what i'm saying, there's not been a better solution than pull a basket out of ass
    
    mircea_popescu: and tjere's no such thing as "a pizza"
    
    pankkake: oooh just remembered http://www.pintprice.com/
    
    nubbins`: bic mac index
    
    nubbins`: *big
    
    pankkake: good one too
    
    pankkake: it's simple enough
    
    pankkake: though they probably update it only once a year
    
    nubbins`: alcohol is generally subject to varying levels of taxation from country to country, so it doesn't make as good a barometer
    
    pankkake: indeed, and that taxation vary from year to year (one of our government's genius idea was raising the beer tax - yes there is a tax specifically on beer)
    
    nubbins`: oil isn't useful as a measure of anything aside from OPEC's influence
    
    pankkake: many political events can affect it
    
    pankkake: and gold, well. though I can use price feeds from people who trade physical gold, it follows the rest
    
    nubbins`: what this boils down to is that the aforementioned basket, for all its flaws, is still the best solution
    
    mircea_popescu: inflation is not really a solved problem
    
    mircea_popescu: which is why things like bitcoin are economically useful.
    
    mircea_popescu: or w/e, "which is a way to explain the economical usefulness of things like bitcoin in classical terms"
    
    pankkake: I'd like to have some sort of long term graph, in the sense that having bitcoin go up in value while the currencies it is tracked against lose value by themselves, is not that useful
    
    mircea_popescu: fiat loss of value is a tiny fraction of bitcoin increase.
    
    pankkake: no doubt :)
    
    mircea_popescu: it went up 1000% since 9 months ago
    
    mircea_popescu: in this sense fiat inflation is a rounding error, you'll never measure it.
    
    mircea_popescu: as bitcoin settles closer to something like 1mn us whatevers, then fiat inflation will be more visible.
    
    pankkake: I have a feeling fiat inflation is going to explode sooner or later
    
    pankkake: but herhaps it will be a slow painful process
    
    mircea_popescu: only in selected countries.
    
    thestringpuller: fiat inflation is irrelevant
    
    thestringpuller: to bitcoin, because if/when it goes out of control, there will be a different unit of account btc
    
    thestringpuller: like gold bars or something
    
    jurov: pizzaz
    
    jurov: and since when was bitcoin under control?
    
    thestringpuller: i was talking about inflation with that pronoun it
    
    thestringpuller: if inflation goes out of control it won't be seen in bitcoin accurately because people will stop using fiat as a unit of account
    
    jurov: oh ic
    
    pankkake: then I could switch my system to track it directly in BTC
    
    jurov: i think it will end up more like in argentina, official rates faster and faster divorced from actual market ones
    
    jurov: only that in ar it didn't end yet
    
    mircea_popescu: jurov i suspect the us will fail like argentina, yeah.
    
    mircea_popescu: shortages, "bail-ins", etc.
    
    thestringpuller: what is a "bail in"?
    
    mircea_popescu: theft, basically.
    
    pankkake: I've read parts of http://ferfal.blogspot.com/ - scary
    
    thestringpuller: like boiler room style?
    
    mircea_popescu: like you know what a bailout is ?
    
    thestringpuller: a bailout is when someone gives someone else a bunch of money to save their ass
    
    thestringpuller: what is the inverse of that?
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10255 @ 0.00081695 = 8.3778 BTC [-]
    
    mircea_popescu: a bailout is when a government spends from the tax chest to save a failed business.
    
    mircea_popescu: a bailin is when a government confiscates third parties funds to save a failed business.
    
    mircea_popescu: so. chryser is bankrupt. bailout : govt gives them 10bn in govt backed credit. bailin : govt orders anyone who ever bought a chrysler car to pay 1k to chruysler.
    
    thestringpuller: ah
    
    thestringpuller: thank you
    
    pankkake: cyprus was a bail in
    
    mircea_popescu: yeah.
    
    mircea_popescu: argentina does the same about every 15 years.
    
    mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, people STILL put money in their banks.
    
    thestringpuller: maybe they're banks don't ask many questions?
    
    thestringpuller: their*
    
    mircea_popescu: that's a point.
    
    benkay: also argentinians expect it at this point
    
    benkay: keep their money in cars and land
    
    benkay: hilariously - cars are a better store of value in argentina than pesos
    
    pankkake: I'm surprised by how fast cars supposedly drop value
    
    pankkake: in France we have some sort of accepted price fixing
    
    benkay: it's just for new cars, the immediate depreciation. there's some psychological value to
    
    benkay: a new car, apparently.
    
    Apocalyptic: pankkake, you mean the ARGUS thing ?
    
    pankkake: yes
    
    pankkake: I've seen more problems with new cars than with older ones :p. at least you know the older one has eliminated the bigger defects
    
    Apocalyptic: I've seen it used by car companies for promotional buybacks, otherwise I don't know how thoroughly it's followed
    
    pankkake: perhaps. I never owned a car
    
    pankkake: no I don't pay much attention ;)
    
    davout: just don't buy the driving school cars
    
    pankkake: ahah. I wonder what's their life expectancy
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 1605 @ 0.00022102 = 0.3547 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5245 @ 0.00081695 = 4.2849 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 640 @ 0.00022101 = 0.1414 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 4017 @ 0.00105 = 4.2179 BTC [-] {4} 
    
    pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331952.0 this is going to be fun
    
    ozbot: [ANN] Crypto-Trade now allowing users to create their own securities
    
    mircea_popescu: "- The system is similar to BTCT and Litecoin Global, so security owners from there should feel at home!"
    
    pankkake: if by home you mean begging on the streets
    
    mircea_popescu: originally i thought it's cryptostocks
    
    mircea_popescu: but apparently this is a different thing
    
    mircea_popescu: (for some values of "different")
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.00209899 = 0.2057 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6255 @ 0.00081223 = 5.0805 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1631 @ 0.00209899 = 3.4235 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 139 @ 0.00209998 = 0.2919 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.002397 = 0.2397 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00013748 = 0.1375 BTC [-]
    
    jurov: ;;rate wao-ender 2 "few transactions went well, also a longtime trustworthy manager of hackerspace"
    
    gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
    
    jurov: ;;rate wao 2 "few transactions went well, also a longtime trustworthy manager of hackerspace"
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user wao has been recorded.
    
    abrabtc: it's interesting that the asks for smg passthrough on havelock are lower than the bids for s.mg on mpex.  must say something about the value of holding assets on havelock vs. mpex.
    
    wao-ender: \o/
    
    jurov: it says something about havelock withdrawal/transfer fees
    
    pankkake: it used to be the opposite
    
    kakobrekla: low vol, lots of noise
    
    abrabtc: hardly seems worth TaT's time
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1286 @ 0.00012367 = 0.159 BTC [+] {4} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 1286 @ 0.00013 = 0.1672 BTC [-]
    
    abrabtc: hehe
    
    abrabtc: there we go. nice arbitrage.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 543 @ 0.00105 = 0.5702 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.04835 = 0.1934 BTC [+]
    
    ryanmckenzie: Good afternoon, I am doing an article on bitcoin millionaires and the potential to become wealthy of bitcoin in the future. Would anyone like to talk to me?
    
    jurov: ryanmckenzie: article for ?
    
    jurov: which outlet, i mean
    
    ryanmckenzie: my university magazine
    
    ryanmckenzie: Edinburgh University
    
    jurov: ;;seen nefario
    
    gribble: nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 6 weeks, 6 days, 22 hours, 42 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore
    
    jurov: i'm afraid all such persons are long gone
    
    
    
    ozbot: Bitcoin TOP-500 Richest
    
    mircea_popescu: ryanmckenzie go ahead.
    
    Uglux: lol
    
    mircea_popescu: fun fact : edinburgh university has produced more scholarship than the entirety of the united states.
    
    Uglux: they must be good at something...
    
    mircea_popescu: kinda funny how naive as to how irc works the general population finds itself.
    
    mircea_popescu: considering irc is certainly older than blogs.
    
    onnabus: be sure to go check out #labcoin for a "how to lose everything in bitcoinland" comparo
    
    onnabus: ;;ticker
    
    gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 375.22, Best ask: 377.21498, Bid-ask spread: 1.99498, Last trade: 375.02508, 24 hour volume: 21866.77628925, 24 hour low: 356.81276, 24 hour high: 391.52574, 24 hour vwap: 375.97164
    
    onnabus: ;;market sell 10000
    
    gribble: A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 3370956.9345 USD and would take the last price down to 303.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 337.0957 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.04849999 = 0.1455 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2683 @ 0.00081734 = 2.1929 BTC [+]
    
    lewicki: ;;market sell 21000000
    
    gribble: This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would sell 17929499 bitcoins, for a total of 21345204.3940 USD and take the price to 0. | Data vintage: 0.0110 seconds
    
    lewicki: ;;market sell 12000000
    
    gribble: A market order to sell 12000000 bitcoins right now would net 21345145.0990 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 1.7788 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 24.7396 seconds
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 282 @ 0.00106546 = 0.3005 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.32999889 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 504 @ 0.00106918 = 0.5389 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    
    
    ozbot: Color Coin
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.30100401 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.002396 = 0.1318 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1435 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.33281029 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.04835 = 0.2418 BTC [-]
    
    
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 12 @ 0.04603333 = 0.5524 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    abrabtc: heh  "There are more and more stupids coming into this business"
    
    abrabtc: well said.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 115 @ 0.0010501 = 0.1208 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.002396 = 0.2396 BTC [-]
    
    ThickAsThieves: XBOND No-Penalty Buyback Offer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=265287.msg3562607#msg3562607
    
    nubbins`: man, this is the THIRD fucking time i've received an email from coingig saying that i've got an order
    
    nubbins`: and the third time i've logged into their piece of shit website and deleted all the products from my "selling" page
    
    nubbins`: idiots
    
    jimmybob: does anyone know a good documentry on the potential collapse of the usd?
    
    nubbins`: does anyone know of a cookbook with recipes for making shit taste really good?
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6901 @ 0.00081291 = 5.6099 BTC [-]
    
    nubbins`: or, put another way, good luck :D
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.0056001 = 0.588 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 16 @ 0.044 = 0.704 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00081229 = 7.5949 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1200 @ 0.00106928 = 1.2831 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    benkay: ;;later tell jimmybob http://www.amazon.com/Reinventing-Collapse-Experience-American-Prospects/dp/0865716854
    
    gribble: The operation succeeded.
    
    benkay: ;;later tell jimmybob that'd be the thing. not a documentary per se but better - a book.
    
    gribble: The operation succeeded.
    
    benkay: ;;later tell nubbins` http://www.amazon.com/Reinventing-Collapse-Experience-American-Prospects/dp/0865716854 that'd be the thing. not a documentary per se but better - a book.
    
    gribble: The operation succeeded.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49817 @ 0.00081619 = 40.6601 BTC [+] {4} 
    
    benkay: dag
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 488 @ 0.00105016 = 0.5125 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 3011 @ 0.00104864 = 3.1575 BTC [-] {7} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 477 @ 0.00104521 = 0.4986 BTC [-] {4} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 130 @ 0.001046 = 0.136 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 110 @ 0.00104602 = 0.1151 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 7113 @ 0.001046 = 7.4402 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    dub: I fucking hate IT people
    
    benkay: LET 'ER RIP
    
    benkay: what'd they do today, dub?
    
    dub: I'm sure there is some kind of IQ bar you need to limbo under to become an IT manager
    
    dub: they are trying to excalate their complete lack of understanding as my problem
    
    benkay: that's what the whole barracuda ipo is about
    
    benkay: "i don't derp computers but i saw ads in airport the other day and WE NEED THIS"
    
    dub: its an problem endemic in the enterprise space, companies seem to expect a guy that install windows all day to magically understand BGP
    
    dub: don't recall specifics but I've had a look at some barracuda IP and my impression was 'run away'
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.33277759 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 500 @ 0.0010665 = 0.5333 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 5503 @ 0.00104508 = 5.7511 BTC [-] {13} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 207 @ 0.00104004 = 0.2153 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 199 @ 0.00103016 = 0.205 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4200 @ 0.00013746 = 0.5773 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 11 @ 0.12000909 = 1.3201 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00560016 = 0.56 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    dub: this chinese nigga keeps calling me nigger
    
    dub: vendor sent some RnD guys over to help with some lab shit, dudes have almost no english
    
    pankkake: or so you think
    
    pankkake: he's a spy
    
    benkay: it's a tlap
    
    dub: lol
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1056 @ 0.00103091 = 1.0886 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    dub: I mean ROR
    
    pankkake: :D
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 904 @ 0.00102561 = 0.9272 BTC [-] {5} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.11611666 = 0.3483 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 14 @ 0.08411428 = 1.1776 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.1434 = 0.717 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 72 @ 0.58164719 = 41.8786 BTC [-] {18} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.52087863 = 7.2923 BTC [-] {8} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.295 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59999 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 311 @ 0.00556074 = 1.7294 BTC [-] {9} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 178 @ 0.0055 = 0.979 BTC [-] {4} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 404 @ 0.00540019 = 2.1817 BTC [-] {10} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00013745 = 0.1375 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 837 @ 0.001021 = 0.8546 BTC [-]
    
    dexX7: kakobrekla: did you already receive your ips monitor? how is it compared to "some quality brand"?
    
    kakobrekla: not yet, i think its gonna take a while.
    
    thestringpuller: indoor positioning system?????
    
    
    
    ozbot: Liquid-crystal display - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    
    kakobrekla: not sure if i should get 2 or 3.
    
    pankkake: are those >1080p?
    
    dexX7: 1440p imho
    
    dexX7: i don't have the links
    
    kakobrekla: 2560x1440
    
    dexX7: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Achieva-Shimian-QH2700-IPSMS-Edge-Eco-27-LED-2560x1440-AH-IPS-DVI-PC-Monitor/131033629039?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D2660874548052918995%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D251378161222%26
    
    ozbot: Achieva Shimian QH2700 Ipsms Edge Eco 27" LED 2560x1440 AH IPS DVI PC Monitor | eBay
    
    pankkake: I want a 2560x1600 ideally… I crave vertical resolution :)
    
    pankkake: but those are rare
    
    asciilifeform: pankkake: for vertical resolution, nothing beats 90 degree rotation.
    
    pankkake: yeah, that's what I did at work. two 1080p rotated
    
    pankkake: always intrigued people
    
    dexX7: :D
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00082095 = 6.5676 BTC [+]
    
    FUDdealer: i'm selling high impact fud. /query.. if you are satisfied with my proposal, you pay
    
    
    
    ozbot: Moxie Marlinspike >> Blog >> A Critique Of Lavabit
    
    BingoBoingo: I think I might have to give up on creating a GPG keypair with the Mac SE/30
    
    asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: slow?
    
    BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Key generation is still continuing. Either the entropy is really good or it is relying too much on virtual memory to try to accomplish this which... I think defeats the purpose if there are going to be a bunch of hard drive writes of the process.
    
    asciilifeform: chances are, it's waiting for keystroke entropy.
    
    asciilifeform: what's the os on that box?
    
    BingoBoingo: NetBSD the 68k version
    
    BingoBoingo: It might take up more room, but I'm considering giving one of these a go http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUN-Ultra-80-Server-Quad-450MHz-4GB-Memory-73GB-HD-/111200002029?pt=COMP_EN_Servers&hash=item19e4095fed
    
    asciilifeform: run strace on the process, if it is blocked, and see where.
    
    BingoBoingo: Thanks, I'll give it a try before looking into giving up on making an late 80's machine relevant again.
    
    Vexual: you go girl!
    
    BingoBoingo: I'll also try mashing the keyboard to generate some entropy
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 900 @ 0.00013745 = 0.1237 BTC [-]
    
    Vexual: does it have a mouses?
    
    BingoBoingo: Vexual: It's a Macintosh. Of course it has a mouse. This is the machine in question https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_SE/30
    
    Vexual: i just wanted to say mouses
    
    asciilifeform: dollars to doughnuts, it's blocking on entropy milking
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.293 BTC [-]
    
    
    
    ozbot: Hold Fast on Vimeo
    
    BingoBoingo: Fuck it, I'm just going to hit the off switch and read up on A/UX and see if there might be any way to build GPG on there.
    
    BingoBoingo: That would probably also keep it more true to the "Vintage" theme
    
    Vexual: sell it to a hipster and get a decent machine
    
    nubbins`: ^ this, hipsters buy things
    
    BingoBoingo: Vexual: The thing is there aren't many machines available that use so little bench space while not being x86 or ARM.
    
    Vexual: yeah its a good choice
    
    asciilifeform: entropy generation is the inevitable bottleneck here.
    
    Vexual: shake the fucker
    
    kakobrekla: why not x86 or arm again?
    
    nubbins`: too commonplace to trust, i guess
    
    dub: jesus an SE30
    
    Vexual: coz paranoia
    
    dub: what the fuck are you smoking
    
    nubbins`: i wonder could like a game boy or nintendo DS or something generate gpg keys
    
    Vexual: put your floppy in and out a few times
    
    nubbins`: Vexual: that's what the lady said to the sailor
    
    asciilifeform: none of this helps unless the system is actually programmed to gather entropy from said manipulations.
    
    nubbins`: hm, ^
    
    BingoBoingo: dub: Newports are what's being smoked.
    
    Vexual: gather entropy from hipster jealousy
    
    dub: smoking kills
    
    
    
    ozbot: DSLinux - Linux for the Nintendo DS
    
    BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It seems like I might have to see if I can find the script that generates entropy from hookers and microphones from the trilema comments.
    
    nubbins`: hipster jealousy is too uniform to be a good source of entropy
    
    asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: random bits aren't hard to come by, but consumer hardware never included a ready means for doing so
    
    asciilifeform: (until fairly recently, and we all know the story there)
    
    nubbins`: ;;echo ^
    
    gribble: ^
    
    BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: So it seems. I actually feel lucky this dinosaur includes a co processor for floating point math.
    
    asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you don't need FP for gpg.
    
    Vexual: youre right nubbins' im thinking of enthalpy
    
    nubbins`: heh
    
    nubbins`: and i just learned a new word
    
    BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I know, but the FPU helps when doing maths. One thing the SE/30 did well was run python.
    
    asciilifeform: some maths, somewhere, but not gpg (or rsa in general)
    
    BingoBoingo: Yeah, that is all huge int's
    
    BingoBoingo: Vexual: If you want to do an imaging this is a thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumoencephalography
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48150 @ 0.00082118 = 39.5398 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    thestringpuller: ;;echo the poop lives
    
    gribble: the poop lives
    
    asciilifeform: (cardano is perfectly happy with no FPU.)
    
    Vexual: you gonna hack a scanner with an xray tube and hook it up to your old mac?
    
    Vexual: totaly harsh bro
    
    BingoBoingo: Well, I mean I've been using the SE/30 for non-crypto maths as well.
    
    asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: why?
    
    BingoBoingo: Vexual: Oh the X-ray was the least harsh part of pneumoencephelopathy. Consider the root words. Where is air going?
    
    BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mostly python scripts for modeling various things. Not usually useful things, but more as a self improvement thing.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00081581 = 4.4462 BTC [-]
    
    asciilifeform: to develop the virtue of... patience?
    
    BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Patience is a part of it.
    
    asciilifeform: old hardware can be a joy; learn 68k asm, write something nice & clean. but python?
    
    nubbins`: okay, so the poor sap who tried to buy one of my casascius coins at below face value on coingig sent me a "how do i know this isn't a scam?!" message
    
    nubbins`: i politely informed him that the listing was removed 3 months ago and coingig keeps resurrecting it against my wishes
    
    nubbins`: i then sent coingig a scathing email
    
    nubbins`: so scathing, in fact, that my account doesn't exist anymore
    
    nubbins`: AMAZING MARKETPLACE
    
    BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The thing is python makes it easy to write something. The joy though comes from !import (your bit of 68k asm) and gradually removing the python.
    
    dub: wtf is a coingig
    
    BingoBoingo: In other news apparently p=0.05 is no longer good enough http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/11/is-it-time-to-up-the-statistical-standard-for-scientific-results/
    
    nubbins`: dub, it's like bitmit but even more of a piece of shit
    
    nubbins`: because you can't even set the price of your items in btc
    
    Vexual: statistical analysis of statitstical analysis. yay science
    
    nubbins`: i got my lowest non-fail mark in statistics, 56%
    
    Vexual: doesnt count
    
    nubbins`: neither did my positive attitude
    
    Vexual: how can you tell? you alm,ost failed stats!
    
    nubbins`: i used a z table, duh
    
    nubbins`: (that's a thing, right?)
    
    Vexual: yeah, that works
    
    nubbins`: heh
    
    nubbins`: anyway, turns out you can get a degree in mathematics without having done more than a single stats course
    
    Vexual: blindly accepting whatver your stats software says is the accepted model
    
    BingoBoingo: nubbins`: That is because mathematics and statistics are different things, I've been told... At least by the mathematicians.
    
    nubbins`: very true
    
    mircea_popescu: ya!
    
    nubbins`: there were three majors that fell under the umbrella of the math dept: pure math, applied math, and stats
    
    nubbins`: in my infinite wisdom, i decided that pure math would provide me with the best job prospects
    
    mircea_popescu: hahaha
    
    nubbins`: i was chagringed to learn that the rest of the world takes "1+1=2" as an axiom
    
    nubbins`: (and mildly displeased that it took four hours of lectures to prove it!)
    
    dub: and now you're a professional artist
    
    asciilifeform: nubbins`: took russel&whitehead a meter of bookcase to prove.
    
    mircea_popescu: lol dub hasi t.
    
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    nubbins`: indeed he does!
    
    nubbins`: there might be a moral in there somewhere
    
    mircea_popescu: i have no idea how this guy can simultaneously believe in global warming but also understand subtle points about math and art.
    
    nubbins`: asciilifeform: we had the benefit of history, we were able to gloss over some of the lead-up
    
    mircea_popescu: i think he may be a professional troll.
    
    nubbins`: professionals get paid ;)
    
    Vexual: :)
    
    dub: technically the internet is for trolling and I get paid to internet
    
    mircea_popescu: professionals do a good job, whether for pay or pro bono
    
    nubbins`: oh, fair enough
    
    Vexual: are you double pro then mp?
    
    Vexual: oh wait, i thought pro bono was something else
    
    nubbins`: although on that tack, i'm a professional printer, not a professional artist ;)
    
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    mircea_popescu: !b 6
    
    mircea_popescu: kakobrekla mostly for the "pro bono" thing :D
    
    mircea_popescu: so i could write an article tit-led "normative heterosexuality for women, a guide" or else an article about good and bad uses of irc chans.
    
    mircea_popescu: which would the crowd prefer to see first ?
    
    dub: women are not hetero
    
    Vexual: id like to read something about cake, whichever that fits ionto better
    
    Vexual: or dragons
    
    nubbins`: given that i'm really just here to mess with the signal-to-noise ratio, i'd like to see the latter
    
    mircea_popescu: aite.
    
    mircea_popescu: dub you are mistaken. it's not that women aren't hetero, it's that women eating out women is quite hetero.
    
    dub: I thought about that possiblity as I typed
    
    mircea_popescu: this is how the internet ends up broken
    
    mircea_popescu: dubs think about the possibility as they rm -rf *internet
    
    nubbins`: "Are you sure you want to send 'the internet' to the Recycle Bin?"
    
    mircea_popescu: by the way, what's the ":3" emoticon mean ?
    
    nubbins`: cat face
    
    mircea_popescu: is it "my face is assshaped" or "my tongue is coming out directly of my eyes" ?
    
    Vexual: Flambé Failure, mostache inverted
    
    mircea_popescu: nubbins` like :} ? crooked smile ?
    
    nubbins`: no, it's seriously the face of a cat
    
    mircea_popescu: well presumably a 23 yo human typed it.
    
    mircea_popescu: you saying rather than a young woman it's really a very old pussy ?
    
    nubbins`: divide that number in half
    
    Vexual: sacré bleu!
    
    nubbins`: old pussies can still catch mice
    
    nubbins`: "Hi Jon, Yes we spoke with the seller that told us that you had taken down all of your products so we thought you wanted your account closed so we went ahead and closed it, but we did not know that you were still using it."
    
    nubbins`: once again, coingig: amazing company
    
    assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
    
    mircea_popescu: nubbins` you should ipo it on cryptosticks.
    
    nubbins`: sticks and binds
    
    nubbins`: what i should do is roll a large "jazz cigarette" and walk to the bank
    
    BingoBoingo: I wonder how long until someone IPOs S.MPOE on SticktoCrypt
    
    nubbins`: StryptoCocks
    
    mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo dudes had done their research, teppy had been inactive on forum for a while
    
    nubbins`: letter transposition is seriously one of my true joys
    
    nubbins`: wordplay in general, really
    
    KRS1: /me
    
    BingoBoingo: Hadn't Kumala been inactive on the forum as well?
    
    nubbins`: it's amazing how quickly people get pissed off when you immediately clatter off the acronyms of the sentences they say
    
    assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
    
    mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lmao.
    
    mircea_popescu: someone should ipo cryptostocks on cryptotheother thing
    
    mircea_popescu: and vice-versa
    
    
    
    ozbot: The superiority of actor languages
    
    BingoBoingo: And to my knowledge Kumala hasn't hired or credentialed a PR. Maybe CryptoSticks-PR should be an account?
    
    asciilifeform: "Haskell code" <-> "sad coke hell"
    
    mircea_popescu: ah goode one!
    
    mircea_popescu: mod6 you gotta see that link
    
    asciilifeform: "C-plus-plus code" <-> "C does cull pups"
    
    asciilifeform: etc
    
    nubbins`: "code in c sharp" = "cached prison"
    
    nubbins`: leel
    
    mircea_popescu: no basic ?!
    
    nubbins`: also, "chain'd corpse"
    
    mircea_popescu: that thing needs basic.
    
    nubbins`: code in basic -> cocaine dibs
    
    mircea_popescu: yeah!
    
    Vexual: needs to bein in html 1.0, those tables look wrong
    
    nubbins`: "seriously guys, somebody cut me up a hollywood. i'm done with this shit"
    
    nubbins`: i lel'd heartily the first time i heard the word "hollywood" used in that sense
    
    Vexual: face sick?
    
    asciilifeform: 'basic code' -> 'coca bides'.
    
    nubbins`: heh
    
    nubbins`: coca does bide
    
    Vexual: Alembic Piss
    
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    nubbins`: "mircea popescu" -> "a cum periscope"
    
    mod6: lol perl => old creep
    
    Vexual: ouch#
    
    nubbins`: also, "coca empire, sup"
    
    nubbins`: anyway! bank run
    
    mircea_popescu: lol sup
    
    Vexual: let $codeinbasic = "Dab Ice Sonic"
    
    kakobrekla: >This will be our third exchange move. Not many assets have lived through GLBSE then BTC-TC and now Havelock, but Cognitive will proudly surge forward!
    
    kakobrekla: ah well.
    
    Vexual: ax errs on try
    
    mircea_popescu: i can't believe you dorks spent hours discussing fistifucing me.
    
    Vexual: liar
    
    dub: cum soap recipe
    
    dub: rape cope music
    
    dub: kakobrekla: oak bark elk
    
    dub: asciilifeform == official miser
    
    dub: a orifices film
    
    vexualanagram: do me do me
    
    asciilifeform: there we go.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.044 = 0.132 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    vexualanagramith: A Vegan Hula Matrix
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.0439 = 0.1756 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 17 @ 0.04000588 = 0.6801 BTC [-] {4} 
    
    vexualanagramith: Vantage Aim Ax Hurl
    
    
    
    ozbot: Venezuela vows to take other stores in attack on retailers
    
    vexualanagramith: A Taxer Valuing Ham
    
    mircea_popescu: http://nypost.com/2013/10/09/mob-wanted-johnny-carson-dead-after-drunken-flirtation/
    
    ozbot: Mob wanted Johnny Carson dead for flirting | New York Post
    
    vexualanagramith: A Lava Exam Hurting
    
    vexualanagramith: A Guava Lather Minx
    
    nubbins`: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/11/12/1553216/chinese-bitcoin-exchange-vanishes-taking-25m-of-coins-with-it
    
    ozbot: Chinese Bitcoin Exchange Vanishes, Taking £2.5m of Coins With It - Slashdot
    
    dub: good shit venezuela
    
    dub: nationalise all the things
    
    dub: eat the rich
    
    
    
    ozbot: Two examples of IRC misuse, with ample commentary. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
    
    mircea_popescu: here we go.
    
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    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.599999 = 1.8 BTC [+]
    
    mircea_popescu: In a 1956 letter to J. Edgar Hoover, a former member of the Army Intelligence Service stated that Presley was a "definite danger to the security of the United States" because he had driven girls and boys mad!
    
    mircea_popescu: The author further criticized Elvis's "motions and gestures, like those of masturbation or riding a microphone," and added that "Indications of the harm Presley did ... were two high school girls (...) whose abdomen and thigh had Presley's autograph. ... There is also gossip of the Presley Fan Clubs that degenerate into sex orgies." The letter concluded with the assumption that, based on eyewitness reports, Presley was
    
    mircea_popescu: "a drug addict and a sexual pervert."
    
    mircea_popescu: i hope that any future prosecutions of bitcoin include rock&roll caselaw.
    
    Vexual: B3
    
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    ozbot: Andrew Huszar: Confessions of a Quantitative Easer - WSJ.com
    
    mircea_popescu: "We were working feverishly to preserve the impression that the Fed knew what it was doing."
    
    mircea_popescu: why do these dorks sound so much like bitcointalk.
    
    asciilifeform: venezuela == cia project, public service reminder that communism -> no plasma tvs. you read it here 1st...
    
    mircea_popescu: you know there's no need of divine intervention to explain why idiots jumping off buildings go splat.
    
    mircea_popescu: similarly, there's no need to involve the world's least competent secret service to explain why chavez went nowhere.
    
    asciilifeform: normally when you get millions of idiots happily jumping, rather than the odd one or two, somebody's built a convenient ramp.
    
    mircea_popescu: nope.
    
    mircea_popescu: i tell you, if cia were involved the only difference would be a ton of leaked "secret" documents
    
    asciilifeform: probably right.
    
    asciilifeform: i just like to imagine that the 1950s cia lives on, somewhere
    
    mircea_popescu: should be the pia, polychinelle's intelligence agency
    
    asciilifeform: in a bunker.
    
    mircea_popescu: "everyone knows except congress"
    
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    nubbins`: ?
    
    asciilifeform: Vexual: yours?
    
    Vexual: no, i disklike creme brule
    
    asciilifeform: the cia described in the well-known 'mr. death' must have been a beautiful place to work.
    
    asciilifeform: http://highpowerrocketry.blogspot.com/2010/09/magic-bullets-and-other-cia-inventions.html
    
    ozbot: High Power Rocketry: Inventing death: Interview with a (maybe) CIA weapons designer
    
    mircea_popescu: the moral of the internet is that why work for a studio to do your movie ? work for some guys you personally know and like/
    
    mircea_popescu: this is true of everything, it doesn't stop with books and movies. the same is true of each and every human activity, from car design to espionage.
    
    mircea_popescu: in the not-so-distant future all the national secret services will consist of will be a list of credentials to allow them to get on say #bitcoin-assets
    
    asciilifeform: i asked a colleague recently, 'doesn't every boy dream of running his own kgb' and he looked at me 'funny.'
    
    mircea_popescu: funny haha or funny ouch ?
    
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    BingoBoingo: Gawker finally made something not totally horrible http://gawker.com/after-30-years-of-silence-the-original-nsa-whistleblow-1454865018
    
    Vexual: and asciilifeform was never accepted into that early childhood learning program.
    
    mircea_popescu: "The four-story brownstone at 141 East 37th Street in Manhattan has no remarkable features: a plain building "
    
    mircea_popescu: this Method writing style is becoming unbearable.
    
    Vexual: isn't everyone an nsa analyst now? wheres the story?
    
    BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I didn't say the prose wasn't bad
    
    mircea_popescu: yeah.
    
    BingoBoingo: Talking phenomenology on the phone
    
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