signpost[asciilifeform]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-17#1026191 << >> http://logs.bitdash.io/trilema/2017-01-26#1607822
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-05-17 20:02:56 awt: Yeah well everyone's going to be poor enough to work in sweatshops soon so might work out
bitbot[asciilifeform]: (trilema) 2017-01-26 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you don't want a strong currency while industrializing.
bitbot[asciilifeform]: (trilema) 2017-01-26 trinque: texas would wrap adjoining states in monetary tentacles over time
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-17#1026192 << what'd be involved in porting the py2 one ? (for that matter, aint there a ffi, and so could drop in a .c) ?
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-05-17 23:22:04 awt: Looks like there is no native serpent implementation for python3.
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-18#1026197 << state-sponsored permissionedcoins seem to be a snoar historically (e.g. iceland) , ~nobody (aside from captive audiences) have ~any incentive to actually use'em
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-05-18 09:15:55 signpost: http://logs.bitdash.io/trilema/2017-01-26#1607861 << heh! and meanwhile
asciilifeform: (safe bet that 'texas au-backed coin' aint gonna be a mined/irreversible-tx/sendable-to-northkorea/etc affair, imho)
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-18#1026194 << the correlation is 1way tho (sorta like how children & 90yo cancer patients have 0 excess fat, but for very diff reasons)
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-05-18 09:13:52 signpost: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-17#1026191 << >> http://logs.bitdash.io/trilema/2017-01-26#1607822
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in misc. lulz.
signpost[asciilifeform]: the utter cowardice of denying the possibility of shipping an item which cannot be altered remotely after manufacture.
signpost[asciilifeform]: this is why I have a cutoff date for vehicles I'll drive, too.
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-02-22 asciilifeform: at any rate the net is fulla these spews, 'dontcha know, permanently correct software does not exist, could not exist, because reasons' etc
asciilifeform: + recall, 'gotta be updateable, you never know what new key format will be in next year's fashionable lolcat coin' etc
signpost[asciilifeform]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-18#1026201 << currency rebellion of any kind is interesting from a legal standpoint.
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-05-18 10:32:37 asciilifeform[5]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-18#1026197 << state-sponsored permissionedcoins seem to be a snoar historically (e.g. iceland) , ~nobody (aside from captive audiences) have ~any incentive to actually use'em
signpost[asciilifeform]: if there's anything in the states that can be wrenched back from the brink it's increased federalism, but not holding my breath.
asciilifeform: signpost: imho would be moar credible of a rebellion if they printed paper tx-goldbux , i.e. w/out the 'blockchain flavour' pretense
signpost[asciilifeform]: thought I'd read it's meant to be both, but lemme see.
signpost[asciilifeform]: that said, yes, every criticism of CDBC applies.
signpost[asciilifeform]: https://legiscan.com/TX/bill/SB1558/2023 << here it is. physical gold and silver would become legal tender.
asciilifeform: afaik to date, state-backed shitcoins have shriveled up & died even faster than ordinary ones
asciilifeform: ( the latter -- are sometimes able to maintain a pretense of decentralization for short while )
signpost[asciilifeform]: in practice the thing will end up being an API for moving db-money at the Texas Bullion Depository
awt[asciilifeform]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-18#1026199 << gotta fix the mcrypt bindings - tried - gave up after fixing n + 1 compile errors
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-05-18 10:30:02 asciilifeform[4]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-17#1026192 << what'd be involved in porting the py2 one ? (for that matter, aint there a ffi, and so could drop in a .c) ?
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-05-18 10:30:02 asciilifeform[4]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-17#1026192 << what'd be involved in porting the py2 one ? (for that matter, aint there a ffi, and so could drop in a .c) ?
awt[asciilifeform]: er, mcrypt is here: https://labix.org/python-mcrypt/
awt[asciilifeform]: Might be easier to create new bindings to an existing serpent-only c lib.
asciilifeform: awt: could try the 1 from jonsykkel's pestron for this
unpx[asciilifeform]: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-03-30#1025789 << I suddenly crave for symbolics genera + concordia
dulapbot: Logged on 2023-03-30 18:52:06 asciilifeform: unpx: well, 'if wishes were horses', wainot 'concordia'.
unpx[asciilifeform]: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-05-15#1026566 <<< Unfortunately, this is something I cannot estimate, but looks like some thick one, and I'm trying to trim it
dulapbot: Logged on 2023-05-15 16:14:18 asciilifeform: unpx: possibly, but how much would the 'glue' (to express 1 in terms of the other, or both in terms of an underlying structure) weigh ?
unpx[asciilifeform]: I had some funny conversations I'd like to share
unpx[asciilifeform]: ``The symbol "=<" means "less than or equal" (modulo 2**32).'' tcp rfc As you wish...
unpx[asciilifeform]: Second thing is that projects can be seen in a two phase model. The first phase is about building the product following the requirements. The second phase is about understanding the first phase and writing a documentation. But anyone can see that one need documentation before building the product.
unpx[asciilifeform]: Thus you either steal a phase two (aka take a standard, implement it, and document why you did so), or you create a prototype, then trash it, write the documentation, and write the product.
unpx[asciilifeform]: But I cannot see tools that care about both, they are more about the phase one rather then the phase two.
unpx[asciilifeform]: Not only phase two explain the product, but also the process of building, releasing, maintaining the product, and even making a new one.
unpx[asciilifeform]: To be clear, phase one is design (and implementation)
unpx[asciilifeform]: Pest could implement this method for NAT traversal
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-09-19 18:37:49 asciilifeform: see also: this likbez re subj.
asciilifeform: unpx: see also in old draft.