bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-10-28 11:15:10 signpost: heh, "is the empire dead yet?" (checks btc price)
asciilifeform: billymg: the final solution to these is rather obv. at this point imho
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-04-01 asciilifeform: what's needed is http over pest, where can fetch e.g. http://localhost:1337/asciilifeform/loper-os.org and it'll work for so long as asciilifeform is in yer l_n (for some n)
asciilifeform: (which is where signpost's lubytron comes in)
billymg[busybot]: asciilifeform: pest was definitely the first thing i thought of when i saw it
asciilifeform: y'know, how 13337w4r3z usedto work, back when the amt of effectual Official interference with it was ~zero
asciilifeform: wot.
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $21118
billymg[busybot] remembers aol chatbot warez
billymg[asciilifeform]: my first mp3s were downloaded that way
asciilifeform recalls 'direct connect' 20y ago, which was actually p2p ('get ip from sumbody'), was ubiquitous at uni
asciilifeform: was rather simple thing, had no nat penetration at all (but nobody was in a nat, so nobody gaveafuck)
billymg[busybot]: dc++ at uni indeed the golden era
asciilifeform: was effectively equivalent to ordinary ftp, but with search knob
signpost[asciilifeform] recalls also, quite enjoyed it.
signpost[asciilifeform]: perusing a particular human's hoard^Wlibrary rather than the impersonal, larger, often spam-ridden p2p nets.
asciilifeform wonders how much 'decline of 13337w4r3z' was simply from 'errybody already has errything worth leeching'
crtdaydreams[busybot|asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: seems to me more of a combination of [whoarding][http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-31#1012014], which is parallel to "why pirate games if easier to buy?"
bitbot[busybot|asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-08-31 08:54:01 phf[awt]: i'll go out on a limb and say that i suspect that not a single digital copy of taocp that's circulating in pirate version has ever been read, and that it's all larp and chan style hoarding “got some lit warez bro, makes you smart”
crtdaydreams[busybot]: asciilifeform: seems to me more of a combination of [whoarding][http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-31#1012014], "why even read books when can watch vidya of neighbors cat?" which is parallel to "why pirate games if easier to buy?"
bitbot[busybot]: Logged on 2022-08-31 08:54:01 phf[awt]: i'll go out on a limb and say that i suspect that not a single digital copy of taocp that's circulating in pirate version has ever been read, and that it's all larp and chan style hoarding “got some lit warez bro, makes you smart”
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform|busybot] threatens to throw combined surface area of 'enter' key out the metaphorical window
asciilifeform: crtdaydreams: hoarding w4r3z tho is actually 'socially beneficial' activity imho, tho, ~iff~ you make it avail. to folx who either find it edible, or in turn pass it on to ... etc
asciilifeform did fair share of 'grab over9000 scans, cuz they're there and disk is cheap' but often enuff ~yrs~ later actually went and put to use
asciilifeform: 'put to use' dun always mean 'directly', either. (e.g. was learning graph theory waste of time? from one pov -- yes. but from pov of where realized that 'all to all' propagation of signed messages was practical -- not)
asciilifeform: even tho no ~direct~ connection b/w what asciilifeform had eaten, and the latter.
asciilifeform: simply thinking about a subj can stir a thought.
crtdaydreams[busybot]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-11-04#1015495 << not knocking building up a collection, I've been putting together my own fully labelled collection which will hopefully find the bw to distribute. point was establishing the correlation between decent warez (specifcally lack thereof) and demand
bitbot[busybot]: Logged on 2022-11-04 19:51:57 asciilifeform[5]: crtdaydreams: hoarding w4r3z tho is actually 'socially beneficial' activity imho, tho, ~iff~ you make it avail. to folx who either find it edible, or in turn pass it on to ... etc
shinohai[busybot]: $vwap
busybot[asciilifeform]: The 24-Hour VWAP for BTC is $ 21150.89 USD
asciilifeform meanwhile went on a dig of 'sane multi-os gui libs?' in re: 'adult pestron', where threads, arbitrarily long msgs, jpg, files, etc and found -- just like 20y ago -- [http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-03#1070913]['wx' and 'qt' -- only game
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-10-04 22:16:12 asciilifeform: imho an 'adult' pestron oughta support inline img, optionally displayed. we aint there yet tho
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-01-03 asciilifeform: fucked with 'wx', 'qt', bought the fucking books, worked through all known public examples of anyffin even vaguely resembling hypertext editors, tried with raw x11, # of misc. horrors. all to 0 useful result.
asciilifeform: grr
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-01-03 asciilifeform: fucked with 'wx', 'qt', bought the fucking books, worked through all known public examples of anyffin even vaguely resembling hypertext editors, tried with raw x11, # of misc. horrors. all to 0 useful result.
asciilifeform before anyone asks, has 0 interest in 'in emacs' hack, or '8gb chrome turd with js' variants thereof
asciilifeform: i.e. if it crawls on asciilifeform's x60 stinkpad, it's worthless to asciilifeform
asciilifeform: ( & ditto if can't cut&paste to/from it w/out spurious linebreaks )
dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2021-05-27 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: it's no solution at all : if i can't cut/paste to/from $item and www browser on every major os, it's worthless to me