diana_alt: morning
diana_alt: thimbronion: "I wish they provided more information/details" means simply -> you should *ask* them, wtf
diana_alt: thimbronion: given the full bag of oddities there, I'd say do this first : make a list with all the irc networks you can find + their own stated "requirements" bla-bla and where's their chan/means to actually talk to admin people
diana_alt: then we can see from there
diana_alt: re "sponsor" - that's not in itself a problem, we can work it out; but as it reads now, there are more dubious bits in there
diana_alt: in any case and as a rule: we're not going to get bothered with nonsense even if they rename it as "rule" so don't be over-concerned at whatever you encounter.
diana_alt will bbl
thimbronion: diana_alt: I should have removed the "i wish..." part of the footnote when I later updated it with the excerpt from the guidelines.
thimbronion: diana_alt: I *have* asked my colo if they're going to allow me to link to an IRC network and am awaiting reply.
thimbronion: diana_alt: undernet, though smaller, looks more promising: http://routing-com.undernet.org/showdoc.php?id=2. I am planning to apply there once I hear back from my colo. Their ircd even builds.
thimbronion: diana_alt: Oops, just reread http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-29#1004221. Will do that before applying anywhere.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-29 03:59:49 diana_alt: thimbronion: given the full bag of oddities there, I'd say do this first : make a list with all the irc networks you can find + their own stated "requirements" bla-bla and where's their chan/means to actually talk to admin people
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-29#1938983 - did you respond + fix?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-29 13:08:24 mp_en_viaje: !Qlater tell thimbronion you know your blog is still broken, click for instance on any comment or title link from http://thimbron.com/2016/08/
diana_coman: thimbronion: ^
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-29#1004226 - so the guidelines are specific enough or is there more you wish they said? I'm confused.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-29 12:41:44 thimbronion: diana_alt: I should have removed the "i wish..." part of the footnote when I later updated it with the excerpt from the guidelines.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-29#1004227 - this should have been clearly stated in there: "I asked colo x on this date, will update when I get their answer"
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-29 12:43:27 thimbronion: diana_alt: I *have* asked my colo if they're going to allow me to link to an IRC network and am awaiting reply.
diana_coman: thimbronion: and re "ask them" see for instance also 1n; you need to learn to actually discriminate based on *who* said whatever you hear/read;
diana_coman: thimbronion: specifically, if it's nobody-on-a-stick talking there, you do NOT waste time "wondering" what they might have "thought"; you either discard the whole thing as pure nonsens or you go and ask so that *they* spend the time supporting it because it's proper that it should be *their* cost, not yours
diana_coman: onth if it's an author with proved knowledge in that field, then *you* spend *your* time wondering, yes, because it's worth it and most probably your own failure there and for your own gain to struggle with it, too
diana_coman: thimbronion: as a side note: is the selection mechanism not working on your blog?
diana_coman: whaack_travel: did you find that famed adapter or is there no such thing in all Japan?
thimbronion: diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-29#1004231 << fixed. About to respond.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-29 18:28:30 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-29#1938983 - did you respond + fix?
diana_coman: thimbronion: can you up yourself in #t ?
thimbronion: diana_coman: I don't believe I have any ratings, so I doubt it.
diana_coman: thimbronion: re http://thimbron.com/2019/09/summary-of-your-feelings-are-out-to-get-you/ - 1. how many times did you read the original text ? 2. how many times did you review the summary before publishing it? 3. was it easy/hard/didn't matter to make it in the given word-limit?
diana_coman: also: you should have mentioned the imposed word limit at the top (ie this is a summary of x in 400 words +/-50) + the actual count at the end
diana_coman: thimbronion: with the new voice model you won't be able to self-voice in #t even when I rate you; so you'll have to join and I'll up you now so you answer MP
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-29#1004242 << this is somewhat odd btw, afaik most of jp uses same mains socket as usa, both mechanically and voltagewise
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-29 18:48:52 diana_coman: whaack_travel: did you find that famed adapter or is there no such thing in all Japan?
asciilifeform: ( and, i've never seen yet a city where the tourist shops dun sell whatever universal adapter )
diana_coman: asciilifeform: we shall see when he comes in and speaks.
asciilifeform: aha
thimbronion: diana_coman: I read it at least 3 times. I came up just short of 350 words on the first pass. Adding a little more detail was not hard. The hard part was understanding certain parts of the text. I reviewed the entire summary twice before publishing, parts of it many times.
diana_coman: thimbronion: do you think you understood now those hard parts of the text?
diana_coman: and yes, the word limit was specifically set (based on the original text ofc, not blindly) to force you to add more but ideally not just sticking some detail but rather working it *as a whole*
thimbronion: diana_coman: I don't think I fully understand "a feeling doesn't matter within the context of thought." Like, what other contexts are there in which feelings might matter? What's the difference?
diana_coman: thimbronion: so now tell me this: why exactly didn't you ask those questions *before* I poked you, ffs
diana_coman: even if just there at the end of the summary; here's what I STILL can't figure out, help!
diana_coman: thimbronion: so? why?
thimbronion: diana_coman: after reading it a couple of times and bumping into that I thought I'd sleep on it and come at it again. No luck. I did consider adding a footnote, but didn't - not sure why. Also considered asking, but wanted to finish something.
diana_coman: thimbronion: what sort of "finished" can it possibly be when you don't understand what you are "summarizing" in there?
thimbronion: diana_coman: it can't be any kind of finished.
diana_coman: and no, not a footnote hidden and as a sort of maybe-kinda-perhaps-not-really
diana_coman: exactly.
diana_coman: thimbronion: but now on top of that you added more work for you, what can I do.
diana_coman: thimbronion: add for next week as task to write a review your own "summary" there (+all the questions you should ask,ofc)
thimbronion: diana_coman: added to queue.
diana_coman: thimbronion: and you know, the helpful thing about articles on republican blogs is that they have sane authors so you can hope to get a useful answer if you... ask them, there, under the original text
thimbronion: diana_coman: Ah! Yes. it didn't occur to me at all to ask the author.
diana_coman: well, next time I'll set you to summarize some ancient greeks so that at least it's indeed harder to ask them questions
diana_coman: anyways, might I kindly remind everyone that it's Sunday and therefore tomorrow I have time reserved to read the week reviews + plans that will be of course published by the deadline.
thimbronion: diana_coman: that certainly makes clear to me the advantages of reading the living.
diana_coman: thimbronion: btw, I hope you did fix *all* the links in the old/imported content on your blog, right?
diana_coman will be back tomorrow
thimbronion: diana_coman: I wasn't able to find any other similar snafus. Haven't tested all title links, but sampled many. For that particular article the permalink was somehow set to '08'. I have gone through all previous posts to fix some weird spans that ended up in the first lines of many articles.
thimbronion: diana_coman: I will investigate what's going on with the selection mechanism.
whaack_travel: diana_coman: yes, i figured out the adapter problem the next day - i discovered my friend-of-friend had brought the same charger that did not have a third prong for ground.
thimbronion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-29#1004234 << The guidelines were specific enough. They won't take me since I am paying for my own server and not sponsored by a hosting company or network operator.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-29 18:35:44 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-29#1004226 - so the guidelines are specific enough or is there more you wish they said? I'm confused.
whaack_travel: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-27#1004110 << my updated deadline for this is 08/10/19. (two days after I leave JP) but i will try to get it out sooner should I get a chunk of downtime.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-27 09:21:42 whaack_travel: greetings from Japan. I am delayed with http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-25#1003859 . I have two main problems (1) my laptop battery is about to die. they do not have holes for the 3rd ground plug here, so i have to resolve this issue. (2) I struggled to figure out how to structure my blog post. I came up with 5 main interests and then went into i) history of my involvement with that interest ii) why that
thimbronion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-29#1004273 << What is the deadline? Do I need a new plan or can I just continue to operate off the one due Friday? I am planning to post a weekly review unless I hear otherwise from you.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-29 19:30:44 diana_coman: anyways, might I kindly remind everyone that it's Sunday and therefore tomorrow I have time reserved to read the week reviews + plans that will be of course published by the deadline.