signpost: god damn, that's great.
vex: found a tracker?
signpost: mighta
vex: i'd like to find one with old & unusual
signpost grunting various projects towards a successor to these, wot-tronic and decentralized. maybe even finish it someday.
vex: a library. excellent
signpost: tell you what, the sound of men singing in unison is transcendent even when it's about being piss-drunk in the alley.
vex: ah. you can hear the words.
signpost: enough of 'em anyway
vex: i'd kinda guess signpost is a baritone
signpost: yeah that's about right, though I'm shit at singing, unless we're yelling over power-chords.
vex: fuck mate it doesn't matter. it's attitude
vex: noones done sepultura style seashanties yet tho afiak
signpost: gotta exist; viking metal does, and vikings had both boats and booze.
vex: indonedian metal goes alright. everyones on shrooms
signpost hits the hay
signpost: night vex
vex: night mate
asciilifeform: aleph: who are you, and what brings you to #a ?
aleph: Hello
aleph: I'm just a passerby who read a bunch of your blogposts on Loper-OS
aleph: Quite enlightening, I must say
aleph: It's also induced a sort of mini-crisis as I realise that most software engineering careers are redundant waste
asciilifeform: aleph: welcome. there's a searchable log going back many yrs.
aleph: The log's where I got the instructions to come here, if I recall.
asciilifeform: a++
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 15 nodes...
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.083s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=737829
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=737658 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=737658 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.122s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=737829
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.157s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=737829 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.203s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=737829
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.252s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=737829
watchglass: 94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.309s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=737829
watchglass: 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.340s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=737829
watchglass: 75.106.222.93:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.660s) V=99999 (/jwrd.net:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=737829
watchglass: 103.6.212.28:8333 : Alive: (0.379s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=665803 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
d4: "SoloKeys Solo 2 Security Key": fido0 at uhidev4: input=64, output=64, feature=0
d4: Finally arrived
asciilifeform: d4: wassat?
asciilifeform: d4: a, like e.g. this one. ( asciilifeform bought some yrs ago, used for a while, then discovered that it randomly loses contents. i.e. worse than useless. )
asciilifeform: ... also 'opensores', 'fido', etc
asciilifeform: prolly on same chipset as the linked box.
d4: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/solokeys/solo2-hw/3346580b665663cd35763427b9ba97386780380c/solo2.pdf
d4: I'm not competent enough to judge the hw
asciilifeform still never seen 'security box' designed sanely, i.e. correct-from-first-try ada fw, and not 'upgradeable' via usb jack
asciilifeform: if 'upgradeable' -- rubbish
asciilifeform: ( e.g. )
dulapbot: (trilema) 2015-09-21 asciilifeform: speaking of, last i checked, 'trezor' was still reflashable from the usb jack.
asciilifeform: ( and moar generally, usb suxx )
dulapbot: (trilema) 2018-08-01 asciilifeform: usb is evil in 9000 ways. not only the ridiculous complexity, which makes it impractical to use with ~simple~ microcontrollers, msdos boxen, etc. but also the fact that it is impossible to make a ~transmit only~ (or , for that matter, receive-only) usb device, they are mandatorily stateful. which is the fundamental reason why asciilifeform refused to put a usb chip on FG proper.
d4: There are two version: the "hacker" allows you to reflash, the "standard" shouldn't
asciilifeform: d4: the sane way to enforce 'shouldn't' is 1) fw in otp rom 2) usb controller on separate ic from crypto logic, and the 2 speak w/out dma
asciilifeform: unsurprisingly, 0 such on market
asciilifeform: what's offered is 'lock bit' from vendor, invariably clearable via various tricks
d4: Oh, yeah. The separation I've read from the ARM datasheet is just a coprocessor but again I'm not qualified to judge this. Still accessible as direct memeory afaik thus not separated
asciilifeform: i.e. it's a redditron.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-26 17:26:54 asciilifeform: the fundamental problem with 'duct tape and chewing gum' ciphermachines, is that it is very, very easy to fool yourself into thinking that you've achieved something, when in fact you have led yourself and -- worse, possibly people with actual secrets to protect -- to the chopping block, by putting same linux+opensores liquishitware into pocket-sized vaguely-ciphermachine-like package.
d4: heh
mats: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/24/henry-kissinger-ukraine-russia-territory-davos
verisimilitude: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2017-05-31#1663960 I saw this in the wild just now.
dulapbot: (trilema) 2017-05-31 asciilifeform: and if someone wants to mention godel etc -- ethical engineer MAY NOT cite godel, EVER, just as a police detective MAY NOT cite the supernatural and admit a hypothesis of miraculous theft from a safe
verisimilitude: It may as well have been this: ``Actually, using math I clearly don't understand, writing correct software is impossible, so I'm not a total fucking idiot and am in fact very smart.''
billymg: http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-05-25#1103307 << nice, let the capitulation begin
bitbot: Logged on 2022-05-25 19:07:19 mats: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/24/henry-kissinger-ukraine-russia-territory-davos
mats: not gonna happen
signpost doesn't see either side backing down either.
signpost: curious when china's going to make a move on taiwan. seems possible it's intended to draw the states into two separate conflicts.
signpost: perhaps not even with our own fighters, just forcing us to print money, buy our own equipment, send to each war.
asciilifeform not grasps exactly what sorta 'cheese' the tw mousetrap is notionally baited with that's supposed to make it irresistible to cn
asciilifeform: ( tsmc et al ? will last 5sec after 1st bombs.. )
signpost: my hypothesis is that these are two mousetraps being baited for NATO.
signpost: hell, maybe Iran stirs up a third.
signpost: US has been working hard to unite the world, could suppose several others.
signpost: and the "rules-based" order idea is quite the weakness, dissolves at the first lapse of enforcement.
billymg: whenever the snakes talk of "rules-based" they always omit who gets to make and enforce the rules
signpost: mmmhm
billymg: i just can't see russia and china going along with a world order where the US sits on top
billymg: and i don't think the US has the leverage anymore to make them
signpost: no, I don't think they will.
signpost: and while I have very little problem with the russians, the chinese are experts at panopticon hell.
signpost: with not even ideological pretense to hold them back. quite the contrary.
signpost: not eagerly anticipating the chinese vision of world governance.
signpost: could buckle and fall inward before then. their economy looks to be going into the shitter too.
billymg: yeah, it really does seem like there are no good outcomes in all of this
billymg: hey, at least our internet tokens still work
billymg: and no one has busted down my door yet to send me to a labor camp, not that bad!
mats: declaration of taiwanese independence is a red line that might draw china into war
mats: not clear that western planners are prepared for conflict with two nuclear states
mats: china certainly doesn’t want to fight, any war for any state is a moment that threatens the regime’s power, however unlikely it might seem that they might lose
mats: a highly underrated foreign policy failure of usa in the ukraine matter is the lack of support from states in the mideast and africa
mats: decades of economic and military engagement in the former has bought them almost no buy-in
mats: even the israelis are putting in a minimal effort to protect their relationship with the russians, declining to share advanced weapons in favor of ordinary aid and some nice comments from officials
mats: the jews don’t really want to take sides