asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $42659.4
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 14 nodes...
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.021s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=719153
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=719153
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719153
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.117s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719153 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.143s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719153
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=719153 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.278s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719153 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.201s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719153
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.172s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719153
watchglass: 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.328s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=718910
watchglass: 94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.434s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=718910
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.596s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719153
watchglass: 75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.469s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719153
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
whaack: asciilifeform: there seems to be 2 nodes stuck at 718910 since yesterday
asciilifeform: whaack: any idea whose ?
asciilifeform: i suppose the owners, if they're tuned in, will notice
whaack: dunno the owners
asciilifeform: whaack: me neither, iirc i plucked those noades outta billymg's thing
asciilifeform moar updates & clarifications in spec.
billymg: asciilifeform, whaack: looks like a romainian TLD on one of those, perhaps diana c?
billymg: also fyi the homepage shows a list of recently active trb nodes, perhaps quicker for referencing than using the full nodes browser
asciilifeform: billymg: make sense
asciilifeform: billymg: the ro box could be spyked's (iirc he had 1)
asciilifeform: !q seen-anywhere spyked
dulapbot: spyked last seen in #asciilifeform on 2020-06-18 10:08:47: asciilifeform, danke. fixed and answered: http://thetarpit.org/2020/a-cursory-look-at-the-infamous-trb-wedge-bug#comment-353
asciilifeform: nfi tbh
asciilifeform: *makes
asciilifeform: billymg: have you had a chance to look at the curr. draft spec ?
cgra: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-13#1058076 << did asciilifeform already have a clear idea how to implement tables here? imitate html equivalents?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-09-13 19:51:27 asciilifeform: a civilized replacement (sexprs!!!) for 'markdown' would be an a++ noob project.
asciilifeform: cgra: was considering to simply use cl-who's existing syntax
cgra: right
asciilifeform: if cgra et al have better idea tho, plox to write in
cgra: asciilifeform: currently evaluating whether sticking with the reStructuredText pile of mine or try to find a (semi-)custom approach. tables seem like potentially getting annoying with RST
cgra: (this re the pile of trb notes looking to partially publish)
signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-16#1073489 << yeah eccless poarbox, high time to build an adultputer locally.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-16 21:39:14 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-16#1073488 << eccless box ? (if ecc -- is there barfola in log?)
signpost: think my mobo will even take ecc, so probably just stick that in existing ryzen. thing's got 16 cores, great for distcc otherwise.
signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-16#1073491 << when I poast, will include a recipe for dulap.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-16 21:40:28 asciilifeform: signpost: whole thing sounds a++ nifty; would be a+++ nifty if could bootstrap it from dulap-gentoo (iirc last time asciilifeform tried, no liftoff, needed concretely a debian of some kind)
signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-16#1073492 << damned cool item regardless of speed.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-16 21:42:13 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-16#1073479 << asciilifeform in fact achieved this, so to speak; simply turned out that the jobs would run at speed of 486...
signpost: (and worthwhile to consider how to allow folks to turn arbitrary boxes into "UCI miners" as easily as possible, i.e. "run this here proggy, contains a whole linux within")
signpost: obviously the same item can run as a standalone too, and this is how I intend to run.
signpost has been using "user-mode linux" as one of his dev-tools for the distro, possibly interesting in this regard too.
asciilifeform: scoopbot: iirc some 'ryzen' eat ecc, others not (is 'unofficial' pheature). 'threadripper', the 'plus' variant, all eat
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-17#1073543 << the mega-puzzler there is what precisely to do w/ such boxen. (afaik even shitcoinists no longer cpumine, diff too high in all major shitcoins)
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-17 12:33:59 signpost: (and worthwhile to consider how to allow folks to turn arbitrary boxes into "UCI miners" as easily as possible, i.e. "run this here proggy, contains a whole linux within")
asciilifeform: archaetypical 'botnet' aint actually as useful as folx naively think.
asciilifeform in fact at one time had one, hijacked from some ro moron, and its upkeep was moar of a chore than a +ev activity
signpost: I'm thinking more along the lines of "here kid, try out your first taste of freedom with this mysterious artefact"
asciilifeform: diff. matter
signpost: "now install it on the machine, nublet"
asciilifeform: a la linux circa '90s
signpost: indeed. it's how I got into it.
asciilifeform: is how ~errybody afaik
asciilifeform updated 'address cast' mechanism to actually make sense.
billymg: asciilifeform: haven't read it in detail yet but i've seen you've been making updates to it. you seemed to be on a roll with publishing new versions so i thought of waiting for it to settle down before updating the version on the mirror (since it's a manual affair)
asciilifeform: billymg: fairnuff
asciilifeform: billymg: will pause shortly (back to chores)
billymg: i've also been busy these last coupla days setting up a new gentoo build on a laptop i have, trying the musl approach this time and documenting each step/pitfall along the way
asciilifeform: a++
asciilifeform looks fwd to reading
verisimilitude: I'm strongly considering voluntarily throwing my writings into the heathen pits again, to see what happens.
asciilifeform: it dun hurt
verisimilitude: The most traffic I ever received in one year was 2019.
asciilifeform: once in over9000 yrs even can 'find intelligent life'
verisimilitude: I've not finished tallying my 2021 website traffic, but it was better than 2020, yet still only a third or so of 2019's.
verisimilitude: I don't post on Reddit, and won't make an account, so I'm wondering if BingoBoingo wouldn't mind uploading an article once every few months or so for me.
verisimilitude: Yes; I seem to recall learning of loper-os through a heathen pit.
verisimilitude: How I tally my traffic is to count the successful accesses to mine article pages, and then decimate it. By this tallying, I still have a few thousand human readers, optimistically.
asciilifeform similarly
whaack: why are you suggesting BingoBoingo do your dirty work lol
verisimilitude: He has a Reddit account and uploaded from loper-os once before is all.
verisimilitude: I suppose I could offer to pay him, but with what?
whaack: speaking of dirty work, BingoBoingo: what ever happened with that script you were making to traverse links to blogs
whaack: i think 1 interesting 'warez' would be a database of blogs-run-by-thinking-humans
asciilifeform has ancient reddit acct w/ mega'karma' but can't be arsed
verisimilitude: From what I've seen, there be several, asciilifeform, not just one.
asciilifeform: several of what?
whaack found out about #b-a through reddit link to qntra iirc
verisimilitude: I've seen several such Reddit accounts, asciilifeform, ascii, perhaps another.
asciilifeform had only 1
verisimilitude: I was mistaken, then.
asciilifeform: anuther on 'yc'
verisimilitude: I made a ycombinator account, because they ignored my work and it incensed me.
verisimilitude: Every time it hit the front page, it was just a case of the title hitting hipster bingo, however; they never had anything interesting with which to comment on my work.
asciilifeform: it's a snoar imho.
asciilifeform finished w/ draft of 'nat penetration' section of spec, and all associated mechanisms.
asciilifeform: thimbronion, jonsykkel , billymg , et al ^
asciilifeform will leave the thing alone for a day or 2
asciilifeform: still would like to wrap up the 'output buffer' thing before vpatching for 0xfb tho.
whaack: awesome asciilifeform!
whaack: finished up writing the code so that view-block displays the fees the miner collected in the block and view-tx shows the fee sent to the miner, inching towards the finish line...
asciilifeform: whaack: a++
whaack: !e height
trbexplorer: whaack: my valid commands are: src, uptime, version, help, view-address, view-balance, view-raw-block, view-block, view-height, view-merkle-root, view-txn, view-utxos, view-raw-txn, verify-block, push
whaack: !e view-height
trbexplorer: block_height: 719221
whaack: putting trbexplorer asleep for a minute, new version going online
whaack: !e help
trbexplorer: whaack: my valid commands are: src, uptime, version, help, view-address, view-raw-tx, view-balance, view-descendents, view-block, view-height, verify-all, verify-all-blocks, view-ancestors, view-utxos, view-merkle-root, verify-block, push, view-highest-high-s-block, view-tx, view-raw-block, view-sig-distribution
whaack: !e view-height
trbexplorer: block_height: 719224
trbexplorer: whaack: my valid commands are: src, uptime, version, help, view-address, view-raw-tx, view-balance, view-descendents, view-block, view-height, verify-all, verify-all-blocks, view-ancestors, view-utxos, view-merkle-root, verify-block, push, view-highest-high-s-block, view-tx, view-raw-block, view-sig-distribution
whaack: !e view-block 654321
trbexplorer: height: 654321
trbexplorer: size_bytes: 864671
trbexplorer: version: 1073733632
trbexplorer: prev_hash: 0000000000000000000626308e720d3ea3cbff0873c5fcb636ad9065b13ac6bb
trbexplorer: hash: 000000000000000000058452bbe379ad4364fe8fda68c45e299979b492858095
trbexplorer: merkle_root: b6017391419a6da58855d8d0561b2a76a62e2106f3af700b1fb3280c316c5698
trbexplorer: timestamp: 1603685852
trbexplorer: target: 386798414
trbexplorer: nonce: 866964177
trbexplorer: num_txs: 1914
trbexplorer: fees_btc: 0.36808808
trbexplorer: fees_sats: 36808808
trbexplorer: whaack: my valid commands are: src, uptime, version, help, view-address, view-raw-tx, view-balance, view-descendents, view-block, view-height, verify-all, verify-all-blocks, view-ancestors, view-utxos, view-merkle-root, verify-block, push, view-highest-high-s-block, view-tx, view-raw-block, view-sig-distribution
whaack: argh, apologies for spam, will fix that command to return in a dpaste in next iteration
whaack: !e view-txn 654321 0
trbexplorer: whaack: my valid commands are: src, uptime, version, help, view-address, view-raw-tx, view-balance, view-descendents, view-block, view-height, verify-all, verify-all-blocks, view-ancestors, view-utxos, view-merkle-root, verify-block, push, view-highest-high-s-block, view-tx, view-raw-block, view-sig-distribution
whaack: !e view-tx 654321 0
trbexplorer: whaack: my valid commands are: src, uptime, version, help, view-address, view-raw-tx, view-balance, view-descendents, view-block, view-height, verify-all, verify-all-blocks, view-ancestors, view-utxos, view-merkle-root, verify-block, push, view-highest-high-s-block, view-tx, view-raw-block, view-sig-distribution
whaack: signpost: i renamed view-txn to view-tx, i think you were linking to txs in deedbot nowadays, the link will need to be updated
whaack: looks like trbexplorer is always returnign the help...derp
whaack: !e view-block 654321
whaack: signpost: seems like deedbot is dead atm
signpost: !!help
signpost: whaack: what's the problem?
scoopbot: New post on Loper OS: "Pest" v. 0xFB.
asciilifeform: ^ thimbronion , jonsykkel , et al ^
asciilifeform: q's / corrections welcome.
asciilifeform: billymg: plox to update your mirror when you get a chance, ty
asciilifeform thinks is reasonably close to a ~99% 'handwave removal'
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-16 12:40:56 asciilifeform: attempting to remove all 'handwaves' from spec and turn it into sumthing reasonably like a straight pseudocoad, implementable w/out having to bash head against problems which 'hey you must solve' but spec aint saying just how
jonsykkel: looks good
jonsykkel: whats sha257 tho
jonsykkel: gotta make packets bigger for that one extra bit
asciilifeform: loltypo
asciilifeform: apparently can't escape these
shinohai goes off to immediately make an Ether token and claim it uses `sha257` .....
jonsykkel: how do i invest
shinohai: Send as much BTC as possible to the addy on my www. Guaranteed 9,623% returns!
asciilifeform: lol!
asciilifeform: meanwhile in usg lulz.
mats: i am pretty curious what happens next
mats: congress is a lame duck now and probably after midterms, and gop is demographically on the ropes
mats: all the ded folk plus demographic decline prob means even more immigration, with accompanying political problems
mats: gop will be fucked even w/o voter rights bills, so is the future civil war or one party statehood?
mats: congresspeople are actively discussing national divorce on public fora, but how, and i srsly doubt a country with 40% overweight and diabetic citizens going to do any fighting