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vex: only fat cunts have heart problems
vex: mebbe dial back on those bakery treats signpost
vex: never tell anyone what to do. i'm the only hypocryte
vex: I don't even kn ow what it means; they dont teach the classics in oz
vex: I am super keen to test certain newbies arthmetic skills
vex: send somone sensible
signpost: fak u buddy, fite me
vex: nah tx. look here
vex: i get off the plane, i get handed a 6 shootewr
signpost: well that's just polite. hawaii has the flower necklaces or w/e
vex: i won't go there, they take fingerfrints
signpost: scan your balls with microwaves too
vex: can I get a 6 inch lei?
signpost: right in the middle of the distribution; decent odds
signpost: anyway I work out *so* I can have the bakery treats
vex: did they give fluffypony his watch bacvk?
vex: i'm thinking prolly yes
vex: I love you signpost
vex: fwiw my ganja has huge grass hoppers lost in time. stoned forever
vex: eaters be stoned as fuck
vex: \no pesticides
vex: moxie took a lot
vex: fight me cunt. phf and I
vex: ill stomp your knee backwards
signpost: I wish phf would come back and be upset at me trying to rehash philosophy above my paygrade; great times.
vex: right?
signpost afk, night vex
vex: ok. ay why
punkman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066466 << wasn't speaking of "great accomplishments", basic things their parents managed, buying house, raising children, learning a trade, etc
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 15:16:19 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066417 << what did typical plebe 'accomplish', historically? (other than questionable point of breeding)
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-18 04:09:40 punkman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066466 << wasn't speaking of "great accomplishments", basic things their parents managed, buying house, raising children, learning a trade, etc
asciilifeform: punkman: nifty mirror. sadly full of 'martian woo', reminiscent of 1990s 'anarchist cookbook' wwws. but at least d00d had the sense to put up a zip, this is rare nowadays.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-18#1066617 << he's still lurking (sporadically?), in fact was the 1 who tipped off asciilifeform re drowned fuhrer
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-18 01:19:12 signpost: I wish phf would come back and be upset at me trying to rehash philosophy above my paygrade; great times.
PeterL: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-18#1066590 << I had a college professor, skinny fit guy, who died of a heart attack, was only 52
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-18 00:06:12 vex: only fat cunts have heart problems
asciilifeform: ( hey phf, can haz plz update of vpatch www w/ thimbronion's proggy ? )
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-18 05:22:29 punkman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-18#1066621 << related, popular meme https://imgur.com/a/cf5W2Uf
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-09-27 10:49:47 asciilifeform: PeterL: both come from same root -- lizards' desire to keep their yachts, palaces, and cocaine despite a collapsing support base. i.e. same thing that happened in e.g. argentina. (or 1700s fr. for that matter. and plenty of other places.)
punkman: "Turkish Lira in freefall, now at above 11 to 1 US$." there goes the lira again
BingoBoingo can see Turks moving towards RU/CN/IR Alliance and dragging NATO axis uncomfortably
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $58007.14
asciilifeform: cheapcoinz!111
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 17 nodes...
watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : Could not connect! (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.021s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=710292
watchglass: 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.021s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710292
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710292
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710292 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=710292
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.106s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710292 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=710292 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.165s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710292
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.261s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710292
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.314s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710292
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.596s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710292
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in misc. ex-lulz of ex-#t folx.
signpost: philosopher god who recited his classical education on wordpress and produced, near as I can tell, nothing but a life of financialism and porn.
asciilifeform lulled re the 'no vanity' bit
asciilifeform: and 'no avarice' didjaknow.
signpost: also first time meatsack was deified.
asciilifeform: obv.next step!11
asciilifeform: recall, (iirc) jurov suggested to build temple, with bronze mp with cock acolytes could sit on.
signpost: this'd be a far better use of his estate (if accessible) than seed funding companies in btc
signpost: you know, the real kind. not moving coins from left to right pocket.
asciilifeform: fwiw the 4k or so of his hodl i have pubs for, haven't budged.
signpost could probably walk chain from deedbot if cared, but I believe he was rich.
signpost: capital gets put to work, is the point.
asciilifeform: i dun recall anyone alleging that d00d was poor
signpost: ah yeah, re: inaccessible. would suck if true.
asciilifeform: sux for the chix, a++ for errybody else
asciilifeform: btc is sorta like a tontine.
signpost: I'm fine with the outcome, but capital wielded correctly makes the whole realm richer too
asciilifeform: this goes for all the early hodlers similarly
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 18:33:01 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066486 << there's imho a quite serious systemic defect in bitcoin (and no, i'm not aware of any possible 'fix') -- the reward structure favours early-adopting morons
signpost: yeah, that was why btc needed a republic, since the flaw there's social, not solvable in the money.
signpost: the morons are supposed to get squished in human societies.
asciilifeform: indeed social.
asciilifeform saw 'needs republic' as direct consequence of the fact that the tree bitcoin sits on -- the whole komoyooting supporting stack -- being thoroughly rotten. naively imagined that megahodlers would give a damn.
asciilifeform: *kompyooting
signpost: humans always need the demonstrative crisis, which is why none of them are gods.
asciilifeform: 'invent parachute on the way down' aha lol
signpost: splort
asciilifeform: instead we get 'Das war ein Befehl! Der Angriff Steiners war ein Befehl! Wer sind Sie, dass Sie es wagen, sich meinem Befehl zu widersetzen? ...'
signpost: maybe we invent a social structure that deranges the executive less someday; the proto-american gents punted and built a foil-a-tron.
signpost bets this works for a while, then fails spectacularly due to counterpressure
asciilifeform: fails via bureaucratism
asciilifeform: humans at scale seem to have 2 settings, roughly, fuhrer and reddit
asciilifeform: bistable -- 1 collapses into the other periodically.
signpost: inflation looks like it worked for the german phase-shift
asciilifeform must bbl
signpost: cya!
punkman: "Bill Gates Says Covid Deaths May Drop to Flu Levels by Mid-2022. [...] He added the world ought to work to eradicate the flu as well in order to reduce threats from future pandemics."
signpost: strange kind of person that considers lockdowns a delightful power.
asciilifeform: the most loathesome subspecies of lizard, the 'philanthropist'.
asciilifeform: thinking about this -- it goes back to the boojum -- how wouldja 'put to work' proverbial 1000btc ? say someone brings it to you and 'how wouldja turn this into 3000 for me, that'd justify the risk of letting it leave my brainwallet at all?'
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-18 11:09:52 signpost: capital gets put to work, is the point.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 18:56:46 asciilifeform: afaik the ~only ways to get hold of the proverbial 1000btc today, is 1) fraud&theft 2) direct access to money printer with which to buy it
asciilifeform: afaik there's possibly nuffin under the sun which 'yields' moar than simple hodl, even in principle.
asciilifeform: even without accounting for 'sfyl' 'investments' -- as soon as the coin gets traded for fiatola, immediately gets inflated away, taxed, vig'd, etc
asciilifeform recalls what happened to the various #b-a era folx who wanted to 'put coin to work'
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, panzers! thimbronion billymg PeterL shinohai signpost et al : pest draft 0xFD updated !! includes rekey, getdata, bounce logic, and various other items discusses in the log.
asciilifeform: corrections/comments invited.
asciilifeform: also includes a proposed pill for the command headache with trad. irc clients;
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-14 14:49:16 asciilifeform: punkman: imho this oughta be strictly for 'hey $peer, i'm over-here'
asciilifeform: ( for the impatient : rekey ; getdata . )
asciilifeform: there may be ugly typos in the text, asciilifeform did not have time to do a proper walk.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 11:36:21 asciilifeform: (and if there aint -- the station has a chance to receive the 1 with the lowest bounce count prior to rebroadcasting)
asciilifeform must bbl
asciilifeform: 1 item still not covered is the 'gimme my ephemeral port' thing. still need to think re the most compact way to do this.
asciilifeform genuinely bbl
asciilifeform notices he made some pretty lulzy mistakes; goes to correct
asciilifeform updated with prolly last change for this wk, folx who want to print and take to hammock, are invited to do so nao.
jonsykkel: would if had printer and hammock
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $55816.48
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 18:59:58 asciilifeform: lizards aint actually interested in ~spending~ their hodls, they need'em strictly for paperization, maintaining volatility so as to prevent their pyramid of traditional fuffles from toppling
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